I am not a machinist but I do enjoy your show. I like that these Grand old machines are enjoying a refurbished life with you. Please continue on. Thanks
It is human nature to 'copy' those we admire and respect so I have found myself automatically working 'cleaner' in my shop. Putting parts on pots as I go, hoovering shavings after each op, even though i am only working in wood. Replacing tools in their 'home' where believe it or not is where I find them next time I need them! 'N generally pacing myself and thinking with my mind not my hands. It adds another level of enjoyment to my tinkering and fettling, so thank you Adam, for sneaking into my subconscious and messing with my MIND!!!!
Just a few short weeks back, I had no idea what in the world a shaper was. I got link to the video where this thing was brought home, and I have been watching with intent each step of the way on the refurb. Since I did not know what this thing was capable of, I searched some other RU-vid videos and watched some chips fly. Now I can't wait to see this machine in action. Your videos are a fun relaxing way to get away from my boring and mundane life. Thanks for the ride...
I wish I had a recording of this machine running for an hour. It's soothing to listen to. Like the tick of a grandfathers clock. Wonderfull machine. Brad
This is my favorite series by you so far. So much time and effort just fixing a shaper, and on top of that filming the whole thing and editing it to make sense? Great job man, I really appreciate your effort.
Congratulations Adam. Nice work on the cleanup. Those chips look great. If the machine could talk it would be saying yes I'm working again and I can do this all day long!
Idk what it about shapers but I find them to be the most mesmerizing of all machining machines. It is awesome to see you give this old girl a new life and home, where it will be used and loved. Because of you and MrPete222, Keith Fenner, Keith Rucker, This Old Tony, Chris of Click Spring, AvE, Stefan Gotteswinter. You all have giving me the itch for machining and learning. I have been learning on a mini lathe for the last year. This year I am getting a bench mill and accessories so I can have a semi machine shop myself. I appreciate everything you and your contemporaries do for machinists world wide. Thank you for all you do please keep it coming. Maybe one day I will have either my own professional shop or work in a shop. Much love please keep it coming and good luck to the weight loss.
You do much stock removal on your shaper, you probably need M-42 HSS like Cleveland Mo-Max cobalt. Interrupted cut, varying cut speed over the length of the stroke, tool drag, etc is tough on tool steel. M-2 and low red hardness tool steels don't seem to last long on a shaper. You need the 5% cobalt, otherwise you're running to the grinder too often. I was taught the best balance of feed and speed gave you chips that just turn color and to take cuts where your incremental feed is about 1/4 to 1/6 the depth of cut. I recall taking 1/4" depth of cut and 0.030" feed on mild steel on the exact same model shaper. You could get about an hour per tool grind before you develop a 0.020" wear land. We used 7 degrees side and end clearance, zero back rake and 10 degrees top rake. Tilt the flapperbox about 20 degrees and the box won't click on the stroke reversal. Over-stroke about 3/4" on the exit end and 1 1/2" on the entry. Cut the exit too fine and the ram speed approaches zero which seems to promote chip welding on the tool. No oil on rough cuts. It just makes smoke and mess and does nothing to improve tool life. Finish doesn't count on rough cuts. Save the oil where it improves the finish cuts. Have you discovered the effect of tool radius as a function of incremental feed on tool life?
Thanks for the tips Forest. I think the 1" tool bit I have been testing must be a Stellite grade, I can't read it. It's chipping out the cutting edge. I am going to try using a Mo-Max tool bit and see if I gain some results. I'm trying to find the best all around tool grade for shapers.
Abom79 Stellite? Haven't used it much but I recall every stick of stellite has a notch on one end signifying the lay of the grain. Orient the notch wrong and the edge life suffers. I can't recall the details. That's WWII era technology being phased out when I began my time. Might be hard to research. I did find this: conradhoffman.com/stellite.htm Conrad Hoffman is a good scholar. There's lots more than this to be found on his site.
I know absolutely squat about machining, Adam. I make my living at a keyboard. But I really enjoy your channel. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Been watching intently on the whole video series. THANK YOU for taking us on your journey and sharing the excellent work you're doing. Wishing you much success in all that you do! And we wait with much anticipation for more shaper projects. Aloha
Tremendous! I want you to know how much I appreciate the time and effort you put into producing these videos. Your production values are very high. It's also impressive how polished your narration is. You make it look easy and I know it isn't.
I'm not an engineer but I am loving this restoration. My mates are engineers so I see them work all the time and it's fascinating too. I told them about you and they are all watching as well now. Best Wishes, Brendan.
Lovely job you've done on the shaper Adam, I usually wire wheel and then go stright to buffing but after seeing the finish you get on a Schotch Bright wheel I'm going to get hold of some of them. Those last chips look like grandfathers toenail clippings and probably just as lethal if stepped on !
Like a proud Dad on the birth of his firstborn. Great job, Adam, and like all the other guys, I have really enjoyed the saga of the G & E. Good job, man! 😜👍👍
Adam, congratulations on your meticulous renovation of this well designed machine. Don't let one of those hot smoky chips fly down your shirt. It finally occurred to me that manual machining is why I like this channel so much. CNC has it's place but it sure is a pleasure watching heavy precision parts machined the old fashioned way.
That shaper is an awesome old machine, what a beast-!-built like a tank-! Nothing like finding something you always wanted and bringing it back to its former glory. Youre doing a first rate job (of course) putting her back into the shape she should be. I get a kick out of restoring stuff like old bench vises, tools etc. I cant imaging how cool it is to restore some of these old machine shop leviathons from back in the days of heavy iron and high quality. If I was your neighbor id be begging to help clean these old girls up. lol Great work as always Adam, love your videos.
Oh man, so happy for you. We've reached a milestone and we have chips! Wishing you good health for many years with that shaper Adam. It's been very enjoyable being part of the journey so far with that old machine, looking forward to more. Good luck.
GREAT CHIPS!!! you've got to be elated to finally fling those chips.You've given the shaper some much needed attention and shall now be rewarded with smooth operation and machining joy.
That is a truly awesome machine, and watching it work is strangely hypnotic. I don't know why, but the first that came to my mind when I saw it start cutting, was using it to build other machine tools. Keep the great videos coming.
Adam, just a real delight to have followed your progress along. I have a couple Cincinnati's and now motivated to tackle a clutch overhaul and get them back in serviceable shape. Thank you for the motivation. So many interesting things you can do now and know we are going to enjoy seeing what you do with it. All the Best.
Well that was satisfying. Adam you have a way with machines, I see so many guys forcing things and not listening to the machine. You really have a feel with the controls that few have and its awesome to watch.
In 50 years of being around shapers that is the nicest one I've ever seen. Also the quietest. Beautiful job you've done. The extra time you've spent cleaning will pay off in the long run.
Adam, Yours is my favorite sub on RU-vid. I am so glad to hear you are taking care of your weight. We all need a guy like you to stay around for a long long time. i love this restoration of this shaper for your shop. /Users/TED/Desktop/IMG_2950.jpg/Users/TED/Desktop/IMG_2952.jpg/Users/TED/Desktop/IMG_2951.jpg I am sending three pictures of an old hack saw i picked up a few years ago and am going to restore very soon and give my Economy gas engine something to do. My first job was in a job shop in 1952 helping make wing stiffeners for B-47 bombers! I left the shop and became a "Pencil Pusher" but have always loved machinery.
The smile on Adams face at 33:22 says it all, fair play to you my man, fair play... It feeling never gets old of seeing the end result of a lot of hard work. Thoroughly enjoyed this series, thank you!
Bravo sir, Bravo. You taken that machine apart and repaired everything that was wrong and made it a very nice respectable machine one again. The self satisfaction alone should make you smile. Looks great to me.
Talk about a perfectly sized Metaphoric Ball and Chain, with his new Young'uns arrival that vice is exactly the thing AvE needs to use to keep his Junk immobilized.---It's a shame you can only give One Thumbs Up. Congrats, always feels good when a plan comes to fruition.
It's is such a pleasure to see a man that has so much pride in his work as well as his tools. You are a rare breed sir, and I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos on both of your channels. The machine looks amazing. I'm sure we all knew it would.
Thank you for not only showing the machine operating but also taking us thorough the machine and giving us the how and why it works the way it does. You did the same with the K&T horizontal.
I've been following this restoration for weeks and finally got to see what the hell it actually does. Amazing the amount of power and force that shaper is capable. This was certainly one of the most interesting series I've watched on RU-vid thus far. I'm glad I listened to Uncle Bumblefuck when he recommended to follow your channel.
Awesome job on the shaper Adam! Great detail in your videos. I like your balance of thoroughly cleaning the machine while keeping the old paint and appearance. Well done and congratulations.
So complex, yet so simple! Adam. you rock when it comes to going the extra yard to make it not only work, but make it look good too! And that goes for your jobs at the shop, the extra polishing, etc. You're top shelf all the way! Rich
Dude I must say that I love your attention to detail, I was a mechanic for over thirty years and there are very few today that have such attention to detail. I am not a machinist but love learning anything and am a regular viewer.
Hi Adam, That truly was awesome to see that unit perform, nothing finer. You brought a machine back from the depths, stuck in a corner left for who knows what, Adom79 comes along brings this G&E Shaper to a level of factory spec's. I can only imagine the work you put into the Shaper behind the scenes but its obvious you enjoyed it to no end and I'm grateful you shared it with us. Thank you and I look forward your up and coming projects and seeing the G&E shine even further. Cheers, Craig
Excellent content. I am almost as excited as you are to see the Shaper run and it's capabilities to cut steel. I am a firm believer in cleaning and maintaining machinery. It keeps them running as they should and alerts you about wear and other issues that may come up. Great job as always.
My first encounter with this type machine was at the age of 18. Had no idea what it did until my supervisor started to make some special nuts with it that went on earth mover. After shaping the metal, then sliced it, sliced it again on the band saw, drilled holes in the center which I helped and then tapped the holes. This was the beginning of my interest in metal working. Good to see this machine working again. Very cool machine , thanks ABOM.
It's bad ads to see that shaper just plow through that block like butter. I really enjoy your channel and watching you the bigger machines and bigger projects . Thanks for sharing.
Awesome! Great to see the chips flying! I can watch these work all day - love it! Between you and Steve Summers, we've got 2 big arse shapers to watch. 👍😊
Adam, thank you for saving another fine example of machine tools from the golden age of American industrial might. Anyone who still asks, “Why a shaper?” after watching this video will never really understand.
Loved to see those Abom-sized chips at the end. We have a 36 inch shaper at the Minnesota Transportation Museum and we have pushed some mighty big chips with that one.
Phew - at 23:46 you had me worried as it looked like the tool was engaged all the way to the bottom of the work piece! Anyway it all worked out and at 30:34 about 166,000 people will be smiling with you! Really great work Adam.
Adam, It’s Great to see & hear your G&E Shaper in operation, can’t wait to see all the new projects you’ll have us see and start to understand it’s many abilities thanks so much for sharing.!.!.!.
Hey Adam its good to finally see the old girl make a chip. You ought to pick up a magnetic bolt tray from your hardware store and stick to the front of the vice to catch the chips. It'll save you sweeping up every time you run the shaper.
Right on man u finally got it going. What a beautiful thing that G&E is now after your hands all over it. The clapper box is like a nursery rhyme for me lol. Just cant beat or replicate that sound from anything else.👍
Congrats on achieving your goals, shaper and personal as well. Tried out the left hand bits on a broken bolt removal last week and they did not disappoint! Thanks for sharing your journey and knowledge with the world.
Had a smaller shaper in my high school shop class all of 40 years ago. I sure do miss being able play with all those machine shop toys. Really nice job getting this shaper back into working order, Adam!
Adam , you have just made my Sunday morning totally enjoyable . Thank you for all that you do and bringing us all along for the ride . That is one bad ass shaper , now I have to get a shaper for myself .
Your most interesting machine .. finally working. Good job, I can`t wait your next video. It remember me some old stuffs from my childhood, looking at may father at the workshop, working on the lathe and shaper, the smell of the burned oil...almost 30 years ago.
That was a nice repair series - pretty satisfying to watch someone do a proper repair job. I like how you kept the old paint but polished some parts. You’ve kept its character and history but the important working parts are all nicely polished and look great. All this work will benefit you very well in the long term 🙂 Ordering new screws seems like the right call. The cherry on top of the shaper cake!
Nice work Adam.A really powerful machine like that will throw hot chips 20 ft easily.Be sure that your shirt is tight round your neck when working in the line of fire.Just one chip on the inside will get your total attention.
There's something amazing about the noise vintage machining tools make when you hit them with a hammer. It just starts a noise, and then stops. No resonance at all. Of course, this is obviously by design (resonance introduces flaws into the product) but it's still viscerally satisfying.
ive enjoyed this a bunch when at school in the mid 70s we had a shaper a power hack saw 7 lathes 5 boxford 2 atlas i think .. a tool post grinder .gas and arc welders a power feed drill press and a forge that we did alloy castings with sand molds ..good times ..i was able to take my motor bike to school and make repairs a great opportunity to ride it to school and across the play field .... all that machinery is gone now so the snow flakes wont get hurt
All that machinery is gone because schools no longer get proper budgets. You grew up in a time of great prosperity, and that time is over. Education ain't cheap...
