Great review Jeremiah! I gave $849 for my T42, Black Friday sale, Nov 2022. It's been a great bike. 395 miles now and I upgraded my 11.2AH to 20AH for more range. I've added Lt side rear view mirror, Suntour NCX seatpost and Cloud 9 seat. Also RockBros rackbag w/panniers. Hydraulic brakes work well at coasting speeds over 50mph. T5 is a great upgrade! At $1099 I wish they're still available... I'm 74 yrs old now and going strong!
I bought the T 42 last year after watching your video on it. I shopped around and thought it was the best at that price range. This looks to be an upgrade and even a better deal.
Firstly, I love your channel. I bought the T42 after much research, and your review was one of the major factors of my final purchase. I've logged 1000km on it, and it's pretty much nailed every performance promise avg 64KM range after 15 charge cycles, city commuting). This T5 basically looks like the same performance with a rear suspension
@@adammichalec1356 I opted for the 16Ah battery. With my rear rack bag, i can carry a spare battery, if needed. Longest I've gotten on a charge cycle is 89KM (pedal assist 2, limited throttle)
Excellent review Jeremiah, Power, Hill test, Display, controls and settings look to be the same as the T42, right down to the 22A controller for 1180W peak on a fresh battery... (54V x 22A = 1188VA/W)
@@thesaltyterminator101 I added the SR Suntour SP12 NCX seatpost and a Cloud 9 seat for $120 and the T42 rides much better. I'm going to upgrade to the 20ah battery though.
Few things that were strange off the bat, reviews seem faked on their website, it showed up on the same day as the release of the bike, and I believe that the motor is the same as the t42
Damn,...the lack of the center stand, and the fact the smaller freewheel I'd install would cause the chain to rub, means this is a hard NO for me. Great review, as always. 👍👍👍👍👍
Lol.. That bike is pretty cool.. I would take 30 mph and the brakes it comes with.. The suspension seems ok for $1,400. Yes a center stand is ok but always worries me when going up a curb .. My bike the chain will rub the rear tire a tad in 1st gear. I don't use 1st anyway. With that battery I would take it over a Lectric $1,000 bike that goes only 20 or 25 mph. Weight being wrong is curious .. Maybe if they had alloy rims it's 6 lbs more or they added wrong 😁 rack got added twice or rear shocks added twice. Anyway, I like it as a cheaper portable second bike option.
I did over 1 year of homework shopping for an ebike. Everything I watched, I compared to the G-Force T5. Last June I ordered my T5. Easy to put the ebike together. Only problem (big problem) was, the T5 did not work. I contacted customer service by phone, left an message. Sent an email, took 2 days to respond. Over the course of almost 3 months, I came to realize, customer service is really in China. CS would email me about 230am. Every time I called their toll free number, it always went to voice mail. CS was helpful enough, trying to diagnose and sending me to different controllers. Remember, even the replacement parts, came from China, so that took time. Finally, after I took the bike to a repair shop, the throttle control was the problem. After almost 2 weeks, got the right part, and got to ride my T5 for the first time the last week of sept. CS has still not refunded me the cost of the repair shop( they told me they would). Love the T5! Great brakes, great ride and power! Hopefully the worst is behind me!
I got this bike a few weeks ago, it’s been a blast so far, although I already got a flat in the rear. Strangely though, the light I got on the rear only functions as a brake light and not a tail light…
💙Another great review! (as usual) I love my T42 after 5 mos, and like you, surprised they left out chain ring guard/stand under the crank. Hope they fix that. T-5 is $500 more than my T-42, but that gets you: a 20AH vs 11.2AH; rear suspension vs hardtail; metal vs plastic pedals. Otherwise, appear to be same components! Did you open the frame and see the 22A controller? They claim 25A... After setting adjustments, my T42 will hit 34mph downhill, full tuck. But 35 shuts it down like turning off the key! Quite a governor they build into these things...
Cool, I was wanted to ask you if you could do a review on this bike but here it is. Thanks, seems like a decent bike, love the sound of the trains going by in the background, what part of the country do you live in.
I dont understand why they didnt put a centre stand on this? I am pretty sire the T42 had the centre stand? Would you say this was faster than the T42 or is it on par? The T42 had 3 levels of PAS? Is this the same or does it have 5?
When a 48 volt battery is full, the voltage is higher than 48 volts, it's 56 volts I think..22 amps X's 56 is 1232, if it works that way, which I'm not sure, it depends on a few different things...Hub motors can be wound for better torque or better top speed..This one has a lil less torque but a lil more top speed..I've known 2 people now that had the center stand get caught in a rut, one of them broke their ankle, the other got hurt, but not seriously...I changed my cassette on a few ebikes and still don't pedal over thirty to add speed, I just ghost pedal slowly to keep the motor going..But everyone is different..
These cheap ebikes all have the same cheap hub motor that maxes out at 45km/h (28mph). There is very few geared hub motors that can go faster and those are more expensive. Geared hub motors suck at top speeds anyway, they absolutely drain the battery if you are maxing out the RPM. Gearless hub motors are better for speed demons, they are much more efficient at top speeds but they are 1000W+ motors. 48v battery does not charge to 56v, it's 54.6v max charge and usually it will charge to slightly less around 54.2v.
@@DyLemmaOG NO..I build Ebikes, when I order hub motors from different suppliers they can be wound different..Alot only go 24/25 but have better torque..I order a 1000 watt hub that only goes 23, but has massive torque..Of course more amps in the controller and the more amps a battery can supply constant, not max, also determines speed..I've built several direct drive bikes too, 3000-5000 watts, they fly, but require large batteries for range and 60 amp controllers and batteries capable of 60 amp constant, which is hard to find and expensive..56--54.6--Really, a volt, OK, I said "I think" because I couldn't remember exactly..Close enough though..Silly..
@@realeyesrealizereallies6828 Just simply not true. You can find 1000W-1500W direct drives which are actually cheap. Paired with 35A controllers. Direct drives are cheaper than geared hub motors because the motor is simplistic. The way you type, I can tell you have issues. You "build ebikes" I'm laughing my ass off 🤣you didn't even know the voltage of a 48v battery! 🤣
@@realeyesrealizereallies6828 54.2V x 22A = 1192.4W, 48V x 22A = 1056W. G-Force calls it 750W/1100W peak which is in the ball park. My T42 is bad to the bone. I went with the Suntour SP12 seat post and it helps a lot
I like your reviews, you're really knowledgeable about ebikes. I'd like to ask your opinion on 2 ebikes I was looking at too purchase one of them. This will be my first ebike purchase. I'm considering the victrip titan S. It has 48 volts, and 32ah battery for 1,399.00 dollars. I was also looking at the Wildeway it also has 48 volts and 32ah battery. The same price 1,309.00 dollars. Do you have any advice for which one is better, or do you have a better suggestion on a ebike. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Kevin. I haven’t had any experience with either of those bikes but the specs do seem pretty good especially for the price. I would try to get more information on the battery because another Ebike company told me on the Wildway "The surface of the battery cell is aluminum film and it will be easy to bulge” but I don’t know much about this and it came from a competing company so not sure how true it I is but maybe you can look into it more. If you do and find anything out please update me here.
Exploring the G-Force website, I find they hav no replacement batteries for old T42's sold prior to the mid 2022 T42 upgrade which was only sold for about 6 months? So we're lucky the new T5 uses the same batteries as the discontinued T42...
The original T42 like the one I reviewed with the smaller frame/battery is the same battery design as the Lectric Xp so that’s an option for those needing another battery.
That's great@@JeremiahMcintosh, Your years of experience are a valuable asset to the ebike community. So, the older T42, pre-mid 2022 (with the floppy fenders), used the same battery as the Lectric. Is the T5 battery interchangeable with other brands? Has the Lectric 3.0 changed for their new 14AH battery?
@Jeremiah Mcintosh I still have been leaning towards the vitilan i7 pro as it seams to perform better than the gforce. Do tou know of the lectric battery fits i7 pro as I heard the i7 is smaller than the gforce battery.
The Lectric battery will not fit the new Gforce or the Vitilan e-bikes because it is too small. It did fit the T42 that I reviewed but then the T42 frame was updated to a bigger frame for a bigger battery not long after my review.
Man, that’s a tough one because I have a lot of different favorites for different occasions like if I’m riding around home, going camping, have to carry a bunch of gear, or a quick trip having to transport the bike.
Looking at their website, it looks like it says T 42 upgraded which I believe is the same as the T5 bike. Not sure why they have it like that like that on their website. Maybe this is something you should check on with the company because the T42 from my understanding has been out of stock for a while.
@@JeremiahMcintosh i believe you are correct. The only difference i see is the rear suspension it looks slightly different. Either way it will be fun. Thanks for reviews can’t wait to ride. Stay safe.
Well a 48v battery charges to 54.6v. Even then though still not 1300 LOL. Maybe the 22a on the controller is a lie and the controller has been modded to actually output more current than the label states. It's possible. But zero % chance because there's no way a "750w" motor with 1300watts is struggling up a hill like that.
@@JeremiahMcintosh In the settings or in real time? The current limit function generally doesn't mean anything on premade ebikes. The controller current function is computer overridden and ignores the displays setting.
It came with the kenda tires that I showed in this video. Keep in mind I’ve seen many different companies change tires though production probably because of supply chain issues so you never know if this will change in the future or not.
Hello, perhaps this is a non-issue but how easy is this bike to pedal with a dead battery? Can this system totally disconnect with the motor for easy free-pedaling?
Yes you can turn the motor off and pedal it like a regular bicycle but keep in mind Ebikes are heavy and will be a lot harder to pedal than a traditional non battery powered bicycle.
Great review as always i would likec your thoughts, I want to buy a folding bike. I am thinking the t5 or ranger s. But would appreciate your input. Im trying to build my health back up from covid kicking my big ole butt. I have to have a bike with 400 lbs wieght limit and a rack to hang my portable oxygen tank on.
😊 sorry old man here hit the send before I meant to. I'll be riding the area north of Charlotte with Rolling Hills nothing real steap just small hills and flat land As i have been looking at weight limits, amp hours on batteries and torque im 5'7" 385 lbs of pure stud muffin . And looking forward to get back to riding. Any help you can give i will really appreciate
unsure if you've tried the lectric xp 3.0, but i was wondering what you think would be a better buy between the t5 and the lectric xp 3.0? - similarish price and general style but i would want the better value option
Yes I have, check out my review video on it! The new 3.0’s will now come with hydraulic brakes. The only thing I think would have been nice is if the t5 had a 11-28 freewheel on it.
The T42 was actually updated with a bigger frame to accept bigger batteries after I reviewed the original T42 so I’m not 100% sure. The one I have is not interchangeable but the updated one might be and that is something you could possibly ask them to confirm.
@Jeremiah Mcintosh Seems they discontinued the T42. I bought 2 last year with 16ah and am happy with them. Rear suspension is basically a non issue to me.
T5 was a hellofa bike! Shame they discontinued it. 🥲 So now, the T42a/T42b, T5 and ZF are all history. I'm guessing replacement parts will be short-lived as well? Didn't you do a video on changing the freewheel to 11/28? Seems like there was a trick with the power going in that axle. How hard would it be to upgrade the front chainring to 52T?
Great review, I bought a T5, I am worried about the battery life, any suggestions to save battery while riding? I'm trying to use it to commute and am worried I'll run out of juice and have to lock it up and come back and pick it up (no way I can just peddle w/out power as I'm in San DIego, too many hills). Thanks!
Mostly the rear frame/shock design is really the biggest difference. Also The T42 is no longer available, their website is confusing how they have the "upgraded” T42 listed. It’s the T5
Jeremiah, Was wondering if you could help? My wife and I purchased this e-bike because of your review. I also bought a ZM through g-force. We were out on a ride and the T5 began to buck. It made a grinding sound from the rear wheel. It shot us codes 24,25,26, & 30. I’ve tried to reach them through their customer service and support but they won’t get back to me after I described the incident. It’s now going on a month. Do you have a contact number or can you offer any assistance to help us? Your consideration is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Frank
Hello Jeremiah, I love your videos. Last year I got a Radmini4, it was my 1st ebike. I've Change the seats, and SP12 NCX Bike Suspension Seatpost. The ride is super confortable now but realy lacks on power. I can't keep up with my son's 600W escooter (apollo city). I wanted to upgrade the power on the Radmini4 but it was not worth it money wise (motor + controller + LCD + battery = 80% the price of a new bike) So I did a lot a shopping and watching your videos =D I was going to either go for the Tesgo STT 1000W because it looks super nice or the Hum-Pro little lighter, thinner and dual suspension. What are the pros and cons of STT with SP12 versus Hum-Pro dual suspension? After all that.. I realize hey, thats weird, its a 1000W but matches pretty much a good 750W (w/good controller and battery) Is Tesgo overselling their product? Should I go for the G-Force T5 instead? Pros and cons plz Halp meh T.T Like you said once in your videos.. it s a purchases that we cant test drive before we order so we rely a lot on pros like your ;-)
Hey there. Personally I wouldn’t go with the STT because I didn’t like the rear frame and they have also changed the welding on the frame so it’s not as smooth and like you seen in my videos I have quite a few 750w rated bikes that would keep up with it just fine. As far as exactly which one I would watch my videos again and pick the one that best suits your needs Lol I could always use more views 😀
@@JeremiahMcintosh What are the pros and cons between the G-Forece T5 and the Tesgo Hum-Pro and what would be your pick? The T5 has a 20 Ah battery couple with a 750W motor where as the Hum-Pro a 17.4Ah couple with a 1000W motor (I question the validity of Tesgo speed and motor claims..) What does that mean or what should I expect in terms of power delivery, range and top speed? Oh what is your impression on their build quality? (Thats why I got a Rad last year, great build quality.. deceived by performance ^^') Thx thx =D
I’ve actually never tested the hummer pro and it depends a lot on the controller and how it is programmed as well. Just because the motor says 1000w it doesn’t always mean it’s better so to be honest I can’t really answer that question. Maybe someone that has the Hummer pro can chime in on this conversation?
@@LoLErMan13 Thank you for the suggestion I didn't know the brand MIHOGO, they seemed like a nice product. Its more or less 20% more expensive, should I fork-up more cash for better quality?.. Do you have a folding ebike?
I have a T-42 2022 model later i upgraded to longer life battery 48v 20ah 2022 model ,My question is would the upgraded Battery from /for that T-42 be compatible with the T-5 2023 model?
