G2A And Loot Boxes: Together At Last! 

JonTron: OH *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo.............!!!!*

What about g2play/kuingwin is They The same?

Jim Sterling G2A can take a Old, soft banana and shove it up their greedy ass

I would be sketchy about any web site that offers cheap keys as you can never be sure where they came from. If you can't afford a game then wait for a sale. At least then you know you are actually supporting the developer and not some shady key stealing web site.

If the only option you can afford is a site like G2A then it is often better for the developer to pirate it. Every fraudulent purchase of a game hurts the developer.

Sambou Jaiteh YEAH!

Isa god I love AVGN

Isa thats definitely in his top 5 best lines

"What a shitload of fuck."

Sambou Jaiteh ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-939mLRbc2T0.html

damn your so sexy, i promise im not ugly like all the other guys in your life

Azralynn Any gambling is rigged to an extent. As much as risk is a huge factor in the "fun" of gambling, the companies running it don't want to risk losing out. The house always wins, after all.

Yes, that's the problem with shit like this that's sold to children. It's fucking gambling, it uses the psychology of gambling, the addictions of it, and the predatory practices in gambling. That's on top of adults that are more susceptible to gambling addiction that these groups predatory practices. Yet it's a system and platform that is allowed to be actively sold to children. It's no better than those shitty predatory F2P mobile games that feed on children's impatience. And sure, blame parents for not stopping the kids from getting addicted to this stuff, but 1-2 people can't go against what is a Goliath amount of systems that are shoved in a kids face almost 24 hours a day.

Very true, but there are also regulations, and the addiction is more easily recognized than someone hooked on loot boxes.

And the stupidity of people that can't do basic math. That obfuscation 'currency' is aimed at morons, but has an added layer of 'not being real money' (even though it is). That way you'll burn through real money without feeling like you're burning through real money. The only thing more scummy than gambling and the people that participate in it are the 2 trillion dollar house hoarders (also known as 'banks'), who directly contribute to the skyrocketing rent and homelessness rate.

I know! It's exciting. You never know what you'd get. It could be Anything!!

one has to wonder, if you get the same game multiple times, what then? you stuck with it? or will you get a reroll? or does a game you already have get removed from the list? what ever the case, its still a huge waste of money.

Accelerator In that Case, the Beauty of G2A comes into play - you already paid for your Gambling Coins, or whatever you are buying the Boxes with. Now You can sell the Keys for the Games, you don't want, on G2A, while G2A gets a Cut for every Key you sell. Those same Keys, you got by buying Loot Boxes with your Money, that you also gave to G2A. It's a shit covered Cow, that shits Gold, covered in shit.

well if that's the case, why the fuck do people do business with them i wonder. i guess there are way more blind sheep then ever.

Brand loyalty. Habit. Psychological manipulation. Sponsoring YTers, The Game Awards and esports events.

They do. Just throw 50000 keys of xcom ufo defense, 50000 keys of generic-asset-flip and 50 keys of Prey into the mix and every key has the same chance of appearing - With prey having a chance of 1:20.000

Awkward Squirtle now it's on all games and it should be illegal

Yeah, it's almost if they want to target the weakest link that falls prey easily to these tactics.......one can only wonder why /s

Awkward Squirtle It's not just the EU, every game since HeartGold/SoulSilver has no gambling EVERYWHERE. HGSS had some Voltorb Flip game no one cared about but you can't lose at it so it's not even gambling.

Big Lover Wait where are those? Are they on RU-vid or just around the Web?

adblock dude, To be honest its a lot safer with adblock those very dodgy ads cant trick you.

I don't get ads.

I've just seen them on youtube, and I use adblockers for all other websites

James Royce-Dawson Yeah.

James Royce-Dawson I like shiny things that look nice on characters... I'm also a bit of an impulse buyer. Likely I'd be a 'whale' if it weren't for the fact I'm already poor before the microtransactions.

Good thing you are poor then?? X´D

Games of chance are just enticing in some primal way and it's easy to exploit that urge that tells you you might "win" the next time when rational thought says your actual odds are minimal. Similarly it's easy for that audience to develop a mentality of "the more I keep playing/buying lootboxes the more my chances of winning go up" which isn't actually true at all since the odds are just as low on every individual roll of the die. Honestly systems like this should be regulated just as strictly as "real" gambling because it's exploiting the exact same type of audience.

I can see the appeal, and I'm even tempted to dive right in, but the psychological manipulation and the complete lack of oversight and regulation keeps me from jumping into this figurative pool full of marine life. I'm alright with them when no money changes hands. If you just have to play the game to earn these items, then that's fine. It's even exciting and makes me want to play more. But when 'keys' and 'reselling items' come into it, it makes the whole game distasteful. Even if you can get all the items without having to buy anything, it's still in the back of your mind that you don't 'have' to keep getting killed in PUBG to get that item, just hand over the money and be done with it. That saps the fun out of the game and has made me put down more than one otherwise FANTASTIC games :(

anybody who is sane reads that as go broke trying

once you go down too far, you go a little further. there, I fixed it for you

You can't dig your way back up, but you can jump and build dirt blocks under your feet. Duh

They've dug so low, they're in fucking Wonderland...and not the nice version.

This isn't even close to a low for gaming, probably wouldn't even crack top 20 scummy moves from the last 3 years of gaming. Pretty depressing when you think about it.

It's more like Jim himself said in one video, something of this sort: "It's like scraping at the bottom of the barrel for barnacles that get worse as you go deeper, only thing is there is no end to this barrel." I think it was in one of those PoxelZ games, if not it was a greenlight game 100%.

i don't see it as scummy at all. if you are under the impression that you have a good chance to get a good game, then you are pretty dumb anyway.

+Thomas Jenkins display the classic "blame the victim" shit mentality. Yes, people should try to be more careful, OF COURSE, but you still don't let the manipulators/abusers do it and get away with it scot-free. In your line of "logic" rape would be legal and we would just blame the victim for "letting" it happen to them. See how crap that is? No, you probably don't.

Deathbrewer equating rape to enabling self-destructive behavior for profit is a bit of a stretch don't you think? Yes gambling can be a pathological self-control issue, but not every sucker has mental problems.

Fa Mulan I don't like progression systems like call of duty. Unlocking better weapons and stuff the more you play because it makes games a bit unbalanced. When someone who's played more than you has better equipment than you to give them even a slight edge sucks, but I'd certainly take it over this lootbox crap we're starting to see everywhere now.

I've hated loot boxes/crates since Valve introduced them in CSGO, one of the earliest and most copied successful example of them too. Thank Valve in part for all this spreading so hard, lol.

There are still legions of people who think Blizz can do no wrong. And this is nowhere near the first time they've made up a creative scheme to steal money from us...

Or could just be that someone dislikes Jim? I mean mate, Everyone, and I mean Everyone, that has even a small to moderate channel, will always get dislikes. I wouldn''t worry about it.

Yeah but it's always interesting to think of 'Who's disliking this?'

I always figured the Zelda zealots are the freshest enemy

Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm always sat here like "He's literally making the most sense of everyone and warning people of this bullshit - Exactly who is disliking being warned of shady bastards?" It goes beyond just not liking the guy and into actively sabotaging their own investment in games '-'

Theres also people who like being first in stupid shit. First view, first comment, first like, first dislike, etc, etc.

Chaos inc. Lootboxes for lootboxes

Chaos inc. Lootboxes for Walmart Lootboxes for Starbucks Lootboxes for the elections Lootboxes for LOVE LOOTBOXES FOR LIVE

You joke but IIRC, the games that come default with Windows 10 have microtransactions.

You should consider seppuku. Call me. We'll do it together.

WushuKnight19 mobile phone games, i remember the infinity blade series, they had stones with rarities and tou would get a randomized drop

Valve kicked it off with CSGO and TF2 crates and skins, along with their little marketplace for them too.

From F2P games in general, they've been using it to sustain *free* games for more than a decade now. But then Overwatched happened, which pretty much opened the floodgates accompanied with the singing praises of the masses. It's not restricted to F2P games now.

Story driven DLC is fine so long as it is extending the story as apposed to completing it. You play through the main game, beat the big bad, then buy the DLC where a new villain shows up. It seams like a lot of games these days (don't actually know how common it is, as I rarely play things newer then the 6th gen) keep their actual ending behind a DLC paywall. I don't really have a problem with DLC adding new weapons/vehicles/side missions, so long as it is priced well, but it rarely is. I picked up a copy of the "new" Need for Speed Hot Pursuit a couple years ago, there are a lot of cool DLC cars, but they are like $2.99 each! They are also right there in the garage, so you constantly have to look at them even though you can't get them. I think DLC should be treated like the expansion packs of old, adds a bunch of new content (often doubling the amount of stuff in the game) for around a third to half the price of the initial game. Most modern DLCs, even when handled "right" (like it doesn't feel like cut content) just doesn't justify its price.

They also won't know of a time when you would buy a game at the store that had gamebreaking glitches and crashes that will never be fixed. It is really idiotic to say a generation of gamers will not have that experience ever when it is only select developers doing this scummy stuff. There are plenty of awesome games that you can just pay for and be happy playing without dlc or loot boxes.

They used to be called expansion packs and were basically almost entire games in of themselves.

This actually hurts me to think about. There other day I saw an advert for MvC:I that was trying to sell me on Prepurchase to unlock an Evil Ryu skin... You know.. the version of Ryu that's always been an unlock for being great at the games? Yeah, just a skin and DLC now. What in the actual fuck is happening anymore?

Eh games had expansion packs, at least on the computer, so DLC doesn't bother me. I am more bothered by companies using the internet to save money on releasing properly play tested games. In the mid and late nineties, Bethesda level bugs in your premium game would jeopardize your whole company. Even good games like Fallout 2 that we remember fondly today nearly destroyed their companies (Black Isle at the time) on release because of how buggy the game was. Now the fans dedicated enough to pre-order are used as free bug testing. In the case of Bethesda, the company sometimes even leaves it to the fans to patch their game for them for free.

SidAlpha actually done a video about them first on the same day. Kinda odd. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ER1_d8duZnE.html

Kinda interesting that SidAlpha's video also contains a clip showing him just missing half-life complete stopping on brilliant bob.

But SidAlpha's came out several hours before? Thinking they just communicate within the same circle of people and this was a hot topic within it or something.

Musical Anti Hero also made on yesterday. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d_WtqwMG3DA.html

Sid and I often get copied on the same emails. Plus we both have very active audiences who are very eager to tip us off about industry bullshit. At this point I am never surprised to find that we did videos on the same thing.

Well, I think it's ultimately because most people are too shitty/apathetic to actually care what effect they have on the world as a whole, let alone smaller things than that like an industry, a city, a neighborhood, their own household, etc. Most people don't care what effect they have. They've rather just put it out of their minds, convince themselves they're a good person, and just continue doing whatever the hell they wanted to do in the first place.

I think many of those people do feel bad when they are buying games and overpriced dlcs and special pre order editions and whatever else they fucking buy but convince themselves that this particular dev deserves their support or that this item/content is to good to pass or any other rationalization they can think off with the last one being that many many other people are buying this shit anyway so them not buying it wont make any real difference.

Sir Musty How didn't you know this by now?

Sir Musty How did you think they operated? I genuinely want to know.

Maybe he thought it was some sort of parody joke about something

Sir Musty welcome to the gaming industry and associates. You might want to play russian Roulette with a fully loaded Revolver, sometimes.

why the fuck is this shit the top comment with over 50 upvotes.....

gmg doesn't do as a slot machine and the prizes in the loot box are often much more expensive then the box. wheras with the g2a you got brillant bob and tons of other zonitron productions asset flip that are often discounted on steam for ten fucking cents!

For Square Enix, it's usually worth it. Mostly because what you get is worth more than what you paid, although if you like the item or not is up to you. Hell, GOG does it too, but the games are always worth more than what you paid. You could spend $3 and get The Witcher 3. Here? You spend $20 and get a game that's often $0.10...

There's not a lot of research put into these Industry Bullshit videos. He just finds out about a thing, looks up what's immediately relevant to issue, and talks about how much it's fucking bullshit. No time to learn who the fuck GreenManGaming is or mention Square's whatever you just said.

Isn't the GreenManGaming just the mystery bundle that Jim Sterling talked about that G2A has combined with lootboxes? Isn't the mystery bundle just 10 cheap games, you occasionally get it for free or can buy for like a $. There is no illusion I think that there will be any good or expansive game in there. I think anyone expect just shit in them. This seem like you can get stuff like Nier Automata and PUBG. Games people actually want.

good question I guess. As always g2a gets the spotlight and is made to look far worse than it actually is. (lootboxes are bad no doubt!! I am talking about the other stuff like stolen keys problem being blown way out of proportion just because some darling game devs say so. These are the same group of people who rail about anything consumer friendly like steam starting to give refunds and have user reviews)

yeah the loot box is more expensive then the crap asset flip games that all come from the same developer zonitron productions the largest asset flipper on steam who look like they ran a kickstarter scam to fund their steam direct fees to get their crap on steam.

Imagine that: pay for Creation Points (c) to unlock random mods! What a deal!! My lord, the worst of both worlds piled on top of each other. Ugh. Just wait till that happens...

SuperFaex don't give them idea lol

And if you draw a mod you already own, you get one fifth of its worth back in creation points.

I'm just waiting until this is ACTUALLY a thing *puking*

Peter W definitely. It helps to find one that's reasonably tech-savvy ofc, since this would be more likely to interest them. If you're UK-based, the Labour MP Tom Watson is both a gamer himself, and a proponent of stricter gambling laws. Emailing him would be a good start.

Unfortunately in the US nobody would bother regulating this. The UK surprisingly has been trying to with mobile gaming from what I've heard and we all know on mobile gaming how bad the practice is on all those trading card games that clog the market.

The Freemankiller They don't have to. You can't lose money on cosmetic digital items.

did yo not watch the video? these are game keys you fucktard.

Yes, exactly. That's how a casino works. Why else would they do it? Because they love giving away valuable games for a fraction of the price?

Yeah, of course they are... Are you new to the world?

"That's how a casino works." No, that's not how a casino works. You can calculate win percentages for every action on a roulette game. And if the casino rigs the wheel, they get SEVERE punishment from the state. On G2A you can't calculate anything because you don't know any percentages and even if they rig it, no one will punish them (which means they WILL rig it).

I imagine that is who hit the dislike button on the video.

ugh. Don't compare cigarettes to the game industry. That's an insult to my Newports.

I'm not comparing cigarettes to the game industry, I'm comparing cigarettes to gambling, which is exactly what this is.

All those poor gambling addicts who will spend 50 000 dollar to buy PUBG.

You joke but I'm sure there will be people who will spend thousands even though they have mortgage or student debt to pay off.

Orby this is only the semi final nail in the coffin. I dread to know which is the last nail.

why?? you dont need to pay for loot boxes... overwatch can be played perfectly fine without buying a single lootbox, the same with Mortal Kombat X...you can ignore loot boxes in every game and still get a good gamming experience... sure...you can miss some cosmetic bullshit but that's not the end of the world...

Orby Maybe just play games without lootboxes, there are and will be many of them

@Psytech Phoenix Until every game I see has loot boxes and other gambling trades attached I will officially retire from gaming lol. Like if CD ProjectRed start loot boxes I am out lol. As in, it's back to reading books on my kindle... no loot boxes in books lol

@kionashi Cosmetic stuff is part of the game, therefore it's something that shouldn't be ignored. You wouldn't bother with a game if they sold the floor textures separately as part of a loot box, so why the passive attitude to other cosmetics?

Ah yes, the hidden connection between Konami and Hitler the history forgets about. But thank you for rephrasing what I meant, because that was exactly the point of what I meant: one can be honest in it's desire to hate and violence. Another can try to subvert their hate and violence with love and care, but still do the exact same shit. And the result is the same - it's terrible and shouldn't be happening. But at least one side is honest about what they do, while the other is trying to look as if it's doing you a favor while doing the exact shit. P.S. Also, goddamit, YT, why did you turn off my notifications on comment replies, had to find where it can be turned back on -_-

G2A isn't the only one doing it, either. A lot of AAA games and other game selling websites are doing it too.

except those companies even the cheapest game you can get is worth more then what you paid for the chance to open the loot box wheras g2a you can pay 20 bucks and get some asset flip from zonitron productions that can often be had in a bundle for ten cents.

It's technically no different to buying booster packs of trading cards. Some Magic: the Gathering or Pokemon cards value far exceeds that of the original pack. The only difference is the cards only have value cause a collector wants it where as these games have a set MSRP by the publisher that gives them intrinsic value. Well that and Wizards of the Coast (the card games' publisher) follows rules for it's packs that make them always pretty fair so as not to shit all over their fans. Still it's gambling, at least if you consider Japanese slots gambling.

CoD and GTA are supposedly not for kids either but that doesn't stop tweens playing them nor the publishers from low-key marketing to them.

Dream true that's why I said it probably wouldn't effect anything but I've also seen publishers censor things to lower the games esrb rating so you never know

Not to mention it's technically no different to buying booster packs of trading cards. Some Magic: the Gathering or Pokemon cards value far exceeds that of the original pack. The only difference is the cards only have value cause a collector wants it where as these games have a set MSRP by the publisher that gives them intrinsic value. Well that and Wizards of the Coast (the card games' publisher) follows rules for it's packs that make them always pretty fair so as not to shit all over their fans.

f2p kinda require them. And before you say fuck free to play games, realize that's how a lot of people get into gaming. That and some of the most played games are f2p MOBAs so...

Lets nuke eastern europe.

Nuke eastenr europe? Yay i get to play fallout in real life! No need to win it in a lootbox.

Kind of. Capitalism relies on competition bringing a better product to fix this. Indie games are the competition. This can't go on forever, it'll collapse at some point and the AAA game industry will go out with a bang, to be born anew at some point in the future.

You cannot solve the problems of capitalism with more capitalism.

Mention Capitalism and nobody bats an eye. Mention Communism and everybody goes insane. Like they're not both killing people.

Not Markiplier Well, Capitalism is not and does not claim to be the Utopia. Communism does, which makes it shit.

zar athustra not saying communism is the answer. Just saying capitalism isn't.