Gain Staging Like Skrillex 

I mean thats a no brainer

Yeah this isn't gain staging, this is routing

Yeah I'd like to understand that a bit too, Ahee, if you have a minute. Simply adding these all up is not necessarily the magic. Afterward, what levels do you set your channel, utility gain (though doesn't look like you use that much), gain on each effect, each limiter, etc - so that over the course of the signal routing, you still get a clean and clear signal at the right level at the very end? And maybe a bit on WHY you would turn this up and that down along the way? I would be surprised if the answer was unity gain on everything.... Nice videos BTW, not dissing above, just asking for more more moooore!

It is in reference to his levels, and shows how he groups different elements of the song to different premasters, plus he can add effects and whatever to whole groups of sounds, like drums, sub, melody , rhythm vocals, fx. It is sound design in a way, layering and mixing your sound to fill all the space available, I love mixing and mastering, thanks AHee, for this tutorial bruh! ✌🏽

Agreed.

That's what I expected too. Hmmm misleading title

LOL right

When he put the limiters on it became gain staging

audiowav3 I just learned this is actually called “Brauerizing” and is a top mixing engineer technique: There is a similar approach in the pop and mainstream world. Michael Brauer started emulating this approach in the 80s from his mentors. brauerizing.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/brauerizing-a-how-to-guide/

@@OfficialAHEE Thanks for the insight! I'm applying what I learned from your video and what I will be researching on Brauerizing to my new track.

so group chain is routed to the pre master and not the master as showed in the video?!

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1.25 better

I think this man wasn't ready to made this video

he's probably processing both chains simultaneously within the chain group on top of all the other processing before it feeds into the premaster

I personally don't use return tracks, I find them annoying as they take up so much screen space. You can achieve the same results by routing to audio tracks like in this video. But if you want to use them just turn up the lil wheel on the right hand side of the track or if you're unfamiliar there are loads of YT vids just look up "How to use Return Tracks". Cheers

It let's you monitor and control the peak value at each stage. Also small amounts of limiting at different stages helps you inch sounds forward in the mix, getting your mix louder and louder, inch by inch.

Shubham Singh I did! Here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YPuVnQCG0Fo.html

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Labden yes before the premaster b/c drums are sent to the premaster

Super interesting comment and something I hadn’t really thought of or considered...I believe you’re correct in assuming that any audio tracks that share routing are sharing the same thread (just like a group). But apparently this applies also to tracks that are dependent on each other through side-chaining, as well as send/return tracks (which makes my head explode) because in theory then, if you have 10 tracks in a project that are all side-chained to the kick, then they must all be sharing a single thread then too...🤔 Very interesting line of questioning I would love to get to the bottom of! I can tell you from my own personal experiences though, as someone who has for at least 10 years now, been using a work flow similar to the one described in the video (routing multiple audio tracks [for instance, all the drums] into one audio track [renamed “Drum Bus”], then applying fx/compression/limiting on that “Drum Bus”, then further routing these various busses into other subsequent audio tracks [busses] *aka “pre-masters” etc.) I haven’t noticed any bottlenecking that I could specifically tie to this style of routing. Though maybe because there are so many variables causing tracks to be dependent on one another, as a result creating multiple threads rather than locking them all to just one?? I’ve no idea lol Thanks for breaking my brain though!! 🤪

operator? sine waves? sub oscilators?

@@reiherreracl3459 well i mean what if im using samples/audio clips for my main synth. how do i get a sub that follows the same movement as the audio clip? how can i bring out the low end on those so i dont have to just make a midi bassline or have 808s. or is that even a thing?

I questioned that as well, really you could do that, but I'm just showing exactly how Skrillex had his set up in Mumbai Power :)

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KLOY great question !! i was thinking the same. cool to see multiple ways

I put mine on the chain group because that’s where everything except the drums, effects and vocals go

@@SENRALL side chain the chains group to the k/s group

if a video exist about this or if you find one could you post it here ? i wish i could find for FL studio too 🙄

For this video, your Pre-Master should be routed to your Master, so when you render the master, it's everything.

@@OfficialAHEE i see. thanks man

I'm working with lots of bass parts in one section and want to know how to split them up. And why I guess too!

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podunkton yes I forgot to add the sidechain on the chain group. Oops

​@@OfficialAHEE It would be amazing to do a follow up video with his sidechains. I'm assuming any bass elements (aside from his sub) are being routed to the melodic or drop chain?

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I was surprised at first as well, but that's how Skrillex's is set up in the video he posted. If all the steps are followed, then having the group going to the master doesn't matter since the routes are going to the premaster and it works. :)

@@OfficialAHEE I was wondering this same thing actually. I assume you could simply treat the actual "Ctrl G" group that the 3 chains are in as the chain group with the basic and hype chains going into it first, and then sending that group to the premaster. Wouldn't that have the same effect as the setup in the video?

Felix Schlenker thinking of starting a regular livestream to show my process start to finish, is that something you’d be interested in?

@@OfficialAHEE if you make it so you can rewatch it l8r would be nice because catching the stream is not allways possible

Official AHEE Is this idea still on the table? Would be sick!