@@tahmkench118on the animated series, honestly yes. I mean they NEED to have and adult conversation and define whats going on betwen them or call it quits, because the way they are depicting Rogue is making her totally undeserving of Remys love. They need to fix that ASSAP
I feel bad for him. He thinks that something suspicious is going on even if it might not actually be happening. Thinking that your girlfriend's cheating on you with your boss is upsetting, to say the least. I kinda wanna hug him. Granted, there's a a lot more nuane to this situation. Then again, I could just be reading this situation completely wrong.
The queen of hearts symbolism throughout the show was so brilliant. Gambit dropping the card here, showing he's losing hope, and later before the party when he throws the queen of hearts into the fire, telling us he's given up on his romance with rouge.
They could've at least given Gambit a cold one liner for Rogue like "Nice of you to give our new guest a warm welcome." Nah. Homie just clutches his pearls and gets passive aggressive with Magneto later on.
She chose a 60 sum year old man w long hair AND kids older than her over a hottie Cajun man who can cook wears a crop top and can actually rock a mullet..THIS IS MADNESS.
They did my boy Gambit dirty... The Rogue & Magneto relationship in the comics was hated, and they brought it here for what? I feel bad for Gambit, please lets hope the rest of the show gives him justice.
@@kkp8538 Rogue has been undeserving of Gambit for a long time, both in the comics (30+ years of Gambit putting all the effort into their relationship while Rogue did next to nothing but cause problems) and in the 90s cartoon she basically ignored or never really returned his feelings after he said that he loved her and kissed her. The relationship is only going to come across as forced, because the plot says it should happen. The only justice they can do for Gambit now is for him to walk away from her and not be a simp who has to compete with a manipulating terrorist who did nothing but attack them, everybody else and was never there for her when she needed someone... but I can't see that happening.
I haven’t watched X-Men 97 yet but hearing Rogue’s voice here turns me WAY off from doing so. She was literally one of my favorite characters in the OG X-men 97
@1wayroadAccel. Well, think about it Rogue isn't a peer of Jean, Scott and Storm she's more, so their STUDENT and Magneto is a peer of Charles Xavier so yeah I know damn...
Ugh. Even in the comics, the Rogue/Magneto thing has never NOT made my skin crawl. The huge age difference alone was enough to make it super uncomfortable; never mind the fact that Rogue was a teenager when it happened, which just makes Magneto a massive creep. I really hate that they're doing this story. And beats me how they'll even explain it since it obviously never happened in the original show. I just hope they don't make my boy Gambit out to be the whipping post here.
Yeah, I refuse to believe the show is gonna go in that direction. Fans hate that storyline! And fans love Gambit! So it'd be stupid to go in that direction! We didn't even see Rogue and Magneto kiss or anything, as far as I remember, so I refuse to believe they're a thing or that Rogue is cheating on Gambit unless they show it. I think and HOPE that they reveal that Rogue was only doing this to learn what Magneto might be planning, since, well, HE'S MAGNETO, HE'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO SOMETHING!
OH YES WOMEN'VE NEEDS TOO ... but maybe a freaking collar from the jenosha slave arc disabling mutant powers may've been handy, but nope an old serialkiller geezer is more handy 😂😂😂 B*TCH😡
the part that really confuses me is that gambit is able in the comics to overload his brain with energy making it so rouges touch has no effect that’s why their lovers in the comics he’s one of the only people who can touch her so idk why they acted like only magneto can here
Seriously tho.. why doesn't Rogue just make a personal inhibitor collar/necklace/bracelet and get with Gambit properly... even in '95 I figured this out..
Because Rogue's entire character revolves around her not having control of her powers and being able to turn them off. Cyclops has the same problem but his lack of control isn't core to his character so he has a device to help him manage it.
@@Time-To-Obligation I always saw Rogue's situation as being analogous to living with AIDS or similar diseases myself. Which further fits with mutants being a minority/LGBT stand in as LGBTs were unfairly blamed for the disease in the 80s-90s when Claremont's run created the modern X-Men.
"That was a long time ago Erik." Yikes. Like Reallllllly yikes. Based on the OG series the only time they could have been a thing was when Rouge was with Mystique. Aka: When she was a teenager.
Rogue was in her mid-20s in the original series with this picking up a year after it finished. We saw her as a teenager with Mystique and the incident with Ms Marvel that caused her to leave, but never saw how old she was when she joined the xmen - leaving a window for them to retcon a relationship with him without her being underage and still saying "it was a long time ago"
@@Apocalypse21187 Still, even in a best-case scenario we are looking at a mid-late 50s, maybe even early 60s Magneto starting a relationship with a late teen to early 20s Rouge who was desperate for any form of physical contact.
I never liked the Rogue/Magneto tryst. They got close in the 90's comics when they were stuck in the Savage Land and Rogue lost her mutant powers, so she was able to touch Magneto. It's like Xavier getting romantically close to Jean. Xavier and Magneto are both mentor characters. Plus, Magneto is old enough to be her grandfather. Great symbolism where Gambit drops his Queen card. Gambit lost his queen. Sad.
They never got close during the Savage Land, Mag started out trying to take advantage of Rogue's weaken state of mind and lack of powers with him nearly forcing himself on Rogue, grabbing her arm and she says, "You're hurting me!" and only stopping when they're interrupted. Later he says that his heart belongs to another and after killing someone, he tells her to leave. That's all than happen between them during that event.
I am just gonna say it, I DESPISE this, I know that she is able to touch him thanks to his magnetic powers but still, this was a relationship I HATED growing up and when I saw that Rogue and Gambit got married in X-Men Gold, I was ecstatic, I hope that they aren’t done dirty here and Rogue realizes that just cause you can touch someone, doesnt mean that they're worth your love
Rogue and Magneto is like Batman and Batgirl. No one asked for it, no one wants to see it. Lol We’re only curious how the character we like Nightwing/Gambit is going to react to finding out. I genuinely feel bad for Gambit
Agreed, and I think the writers know that too, and I think they may adapt the story in a way that explains how wrong it is and have Gambit as a victim. If they do that, people will love this show.
Yeah, that’s probably a good point. It probably was intentional made to be something tragic. Basically Rogue was in a vulnerable state due to the nature of her powers and despite her feelings for Gambit, she didn’t want to see him get killed if they were ever to kiss. You can tell this will be a relationship based in pain and desperation for comfort. She’s properly crying inside, knowing she probably betrayed Remy. As for Gambit, he started to see himself in Rogue and had done the same on any woman many times, it was here he realized how special Rogue was to him and in a way that’s very emotional rather sexual alone. It’s a bold risk and boy I think the reaction from the audience was just what the writers were hoping for with this being viewed as a very tragic and somber moment.
Even if she not with Gambit she should have been open about her relationship with magneto and told Gambit she wants magneto, so Gambit isn't the fool waiting for her
Happened in the comics 30 years ago too. Gambit is my favorite character, but I do like that the creators and writers are not shying away from the source material like a lot of writers are doing today in order to be pc.
@@coreymartin6486 Look, just because it’s in the comic, it doesn’t always mean it’s good. That stuff wasn’t really well received in the comics either. Same thing with Rise of Skywalker and Palpatine coming back. Yeah, that was in the comics as well. People hate it back then and people still hate it now when it’s in the big screen.
@alexanderchristopher6237 fair ...but overall it's better that a show care about the comic sources rather than completely ignore it, even if stuff like this gets highlighted at times.
This is dumb writing for Rogue to cheat on Gambit for a guy in his 70s cause all she has to do for Gambit to touch her is wear a mutant inhibitor collar. It also doesn't make any sense why Magneto is immune to her powers when past depictions have showed he isn't. In the OG series Rogue loved Gambit and jumped in front of a blast shot at him from Bishop trying to kill Gambit.
Magneto is handsome, charismatic, is an omega level mutant who can literally wipe the floor with most if not all the members of the X Men and has all the status and power that comes with it. Also literally IRL, the vast majority of younger women desire older men and pass up on younger guys constantly as they want a "mature man"
@@raenascott4663 Gambit and Rogue kissed in the X-Men TAS a few times. They kissed when they were being held captive by Sinister and their powers were nullified on the Island, Gambit told her he loved her, Rogue kissed Gambit by putting her hand on his mouth and kissing through her glove, and Gambit kissed her a few times but was rendered unconscious cause of her powers. Rogue saved his life several times too and jumped in front of a shot fired at him from Bishop that went back in time to kill him. In the comics they're also married.
@@2Good2BeTrue45 Magneto is a terrorist who killed, terrorized the world for several years, fought and endangered the X-Men for years. Most people find relationships with 50 year age gaps gross and consider the man as being immature for doing so. People praise Keanu Reeves and Hugh Jackman for marrying, dating in their age range and being mature.
they are for once lliterally following plot points that happened in 90s all of this is straight from comics blame the source material if the writing doesnt match the original cartoon now
Yes. Magneto has three kids, Quicksilver, Polaris and ScarletWitch, her age and is a survivor of the Holocaust making him in his 60s or 70s. This cheating is forced for unnecessary drama to tarnish the iconic Rogue-Gambit relationship from the OG X-Men TAS.
You must be a kid. Most younger women/ women in their prime want older men and even pass over younger guys, especially when older men are handsome, have money, status etc. You got a lot to learn about life and the female nature.
@@2Good2BeTrue45idk what world you live in but the majority of people don't want to get together with people twice their age. Don't patronise people for being rightly uncomfortable with this.
@@Subpar1O1well to be fair he is right. It does happen in real life. Often enough for it to not be weird and majority doesn't matter cause its only happening to one girl.
@@Antonio-vn5xcnot arguing the fact it does happen, but this guy is implying *most* girls are attracted to older men when that's not true, especially for our generation.
This series takes two of the worst tropes of the 90's comics: the clone BS, and the young women dating old men trope. This implies that they had a thing before the X-Men series started, possibly before Xavier met her. It gets worse if it is somehow because of his powers because he manipulated a young woman, if not a teenager, who was desperate for the touch of another for his own advantages. Even if Erik Lehnsherr did surrender his 'dream' of exterminating humanity, this still makes him a gigantic PoS.
Gambit:...... Looking back.... I did the same thing.... To others...... Maybe this is what I deserve.... Is this how you feel.... When I do I to do you? I’m sorry, Cherie.... (Somber) I could imagine this is not just Gambit seeing his crush with another, but likely himself, considering how many woman he was with. It turns out he ended up being hurt more than he thought, realizing that he genuinely loved Rogue as well starting to see what’s it like to be her when she does it like he sometimes tends to do with another woman. If anything it’s a moment of realization and self actualization that could lead to some interesting character development for Gambut.
Yeah, I refuse to believe the show is gonna go in that direction. Fans hate that storyline! We didn't see Rogue and Magneto kiss or anything, so I refuse to believe they're a thing or that Rogue is cheating on Gambit unless they show it. I think and HOPE that they reveal that Rogue was only doing this to learn what Magneto might be planning, since, well, HE'S MAGNETO, HE'S OBVIOUSLY UP TO SOMETHING!
@@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257I believe it's a just a technique to A) make more people talking about the show ,so likely more people are going to watch it B) keep the audience in a cliffhanger to see what will happens
Really not sure why they keep going back to RogNeto. It's never been a popular pairing in the main universe (as far as I can see), and it pretty much always brings down Gambit and Rogue as characters. Honestly, it's quite baffling how many times they've (technically) gone to the well with it too. The Savage Land was very brief and didn't actually lead to any romance. AOA, but that was an alternate reality. There was also when Joseph (Magneto's clone) came along and made things complicated for Rogue and Gambit Finally, Rogue and Magneto proper got into a relationship in X-Men Legacy despite the fact that in the 616, Magneto had already "mentally raped" (her exact words) Rogue by forcing Gambit's memories into her head (so she could see his involvement in the mutant massacre). This one is probably the worst offender for many Rogue fans.
Oh yikes, I wasn't onboard with this pairing anyway (mostly cuz I ship Magneto with -me- Xavier) but if I wanted to see rapemance I'd be watching my actual soap operas still :|
@@calmingvoice8646 Isn't it usually the other way around with, wouldn't it be Rogue making a podcast, saying that she let the good guy go or asks where are all the good men?
Wait did you guys not read the Savage Land stuff? Remember the Jim Lee drawing of Rogue with the tooth necklace? I hate that it’s happening after her and Gambit got together, which wasn’t the case in the comics, but this was a thing.
I read the Savage Land stuff and nothing happen, they were never together during that time, nothing was shown that they dated, they never said that they loved each other, nothing. What did happen was that Mag was trying to take advantage of her weaken state of mind and lake of powers, where he grabs her arm and Rogue says "You're hutting me!" and he only stops when someone walks in on them. Later in that same issue he says that his hearts belongs to another and he also shows a murdering scum bag he really is.
He's my favorite too, but his death was epic. I just wish it was for the Morlocks instead of Rogue. His actions have transgressed them before and he feels guilt and self loathing over it- so he'd have a reason to do it, and the impact would hit Rogue even harder if he was willing to go that far for essentially strangers- and she gave him up because she can't touch him.
Gambit and Rogue are that one couple that often split for a little while but then always come back together, so this is no huge surprise. I *am* surprised they're retconning in the Magneto/Rogue romance from the comics. That's one that tends to be ignored nowadays. I hope Gambit doesn't run off and end up working for Sinister like he did in the comics because, hoo boy. That goes bad for him.
If he hates Magneto, not counting the Rogue thing, for everything he’s done then objectively he HAS to hate Sinister more because Sinister is comparatively way more vile than Magneto
Ok, for someone that is quite distance to follow DC or Marvel and all the multiverse fuckery (to my surprise, the batman and superman tv show from the 90's seems it wasn't even the original earth, or earth 1 i mean), so that relationship is "canon"? Or from the "main universe"? I mean, was the 90's show and this one even from the "main universe"?
NGL, I hate Roguneto less because of Romy (although it's cute enough) and more because of the implication that Magneto is possibly straight Him and Prof X have a vibe™, bruh 😂
This is like the stupidest plot ever like I was hoping for rouge and gambit relationships developed more, but you have to throw this at me like if they don't have rouge and gambit together at the end of this series I'm so done
I don't mind if she is in a relationship with Magneto as in alternate reality marvel comics she and Magneto had a son Magnus while in Canon universe she was with Gambit. Issue is that why this relationship and feelings are addressed now when they weren't in five seasons of orignal series. As a fan of orignal series, this is confusing.
More adult show that knew it wouldn’t have been able to be shown in a kids show. There’s nothing wrong with the relationship because they’re adults, but because of the age gap, kids wouldn’t have understood that
Men, Gambit letting that Queen card go down is so sad (for context, the Queen is the embodiment of gambit luck wich also represents Rogue for him as a luck they found each other)
This show can't be THIS stupid! I'm choosing to believe that Rogue is only pretending to be with Magneto in order to figure out what he's truly planning, since, well, HE'S MAGNETO! HE'S ALWAYS PLANNING SOMETHING! I refuse to believe that Rogue is cheating on Gambit just because Magneto can touch her without getting hurt. She and Gambit have been through way too much! I sincerely hope this is what the series is doing; tricking the audience into thinking Rogue and Magneto are a thing only to reveal that that will NEVER be the case.
Bro, it is in the comic they referencing. However, I never liked their relationship in the 80s and there is reason why gambit and rogue became end game since they were more popular than rogue and magneto.
@@kyordannydelvalle523 well, I don't care if this storyline was from the comics. Having Rogue and Magneto as a couple SUCKS! Doing this crap to Gambit SUCKS! And so many people agree that doing this storyline is STUPID. I sincerely hope that the show pulls the rug out from under us and reveals that Rogue never had feelings for Magneto and only pretended to in order to figure out what he's planning, since, as I said before, HE'S MAGNETO!
@@FadzaiSimango Let see how it goes. In the context of the show it does not make sense. In the comic it does as much i hate that. The thing that show is already following some arc closely and some it modify, like the clone thing were madalyn became evil which in this version she did not. So, I wouldn't yet confirmed nor deny yet.
Poor Gambit he gamble 🃏 on her heart 💔 and lost, this scene make wish they didn't bring this show back, oh well I hope gambit find true love some where else, for there is more hearts in a deck of cards.
@@curtiswatson7899really? After 5 seasons of development on their relationship, kisses, love confessions and ep1's interactions. You really think they arent at least dating?
@@Theriness266yeah, they never made it official, so they were never dating. That’s like being upset the girl you’re flirting with suddenly has a boyfriend, when you weren’t even dating to begin with
@@deadpooldan9862 nah it’s being upset that after all the love from both sides, kisses, confessions, “not official” dates and time together she decides to just leave with some old man who she doesn’t even love just because he can touch her.
Gambit has always been my favorite marvel character....even when I was reading the comics in the 90's. I really hope they don't make Gambit totally focused on Rogue. There was still many things that was going on for gambit back then, not including rogue.
EXACTLY!!! I like Rogue but they don't have to be together all the time (although Rogue with Magneto is 🤮). Gambit is way cooler when he's not tied down to Rogue because that's when he's even more unpredictable and has an even more devil may care attitude.
@@designerdiva423 Yeah. The very old comics, when wolverine wasn’t even part of the team. For some reason or another, Jean read his mind and he confessed in secret he had feelings for Jean. Lel
The worst part to Gambit is that Magneto would be on his 60's at this point. It sucks to be cheated, but it must suck even more when the guy should be in a nursing home
I am 100% hoping this is the arc which Legion alters the reality of the X-mens lives to new powers and psuedo relationships. And when its revealed everything will go back to normal because that's definitely not in Rogue's character to do that to Gambit. I hate this.
Breaks my Heart to see poor Gambit devastated reactions.. he is not just one of the X-man i can relate the most but i know that is exactly the type of deep emotional pain i will feel instantly if my lady did that to me just hope they won't take this into a ridiculous heartless level i mean i ADORE Magneto, but truly just love to see ROGUE&GAMBIT always i don't think this truly fully count as Rogue 'Cheating on Gambit' at least Not fully yet..
Technically this is comic book story “accurate” because Rogue did have a relationship with Magneto. I never thought they would ACTUALLY incorporate this in the animated series and now I am CRUSHED! Those two were my couple goals!!! 😭😭😭😭💔
Only on apocalypse comic but it is not part of the canon 616 marvel comic and it was the only time magneto and rogue were together. Most of the main comic canon, she end up with gambit
nope, in the comics Rogue and Magneto had a thing, but before Rogue even met Gambit. They are destroying Rogue's character because fans know she'd never cheat on Gambit
@@josesarango3408 In few comics that happened and it wasn't on 616 marvel continuity which is the canon version which is wjere gambit and rogue are together.
Bro they weren't officially together.. Dont say cheat when they clearly just had feelings for each other. Rogye has not been able to touch anyone for so long. In some countries this is used as torture. And now when she reunites with her old lover who she can touch, and they are both fighting for the same side you want to criticise her?
Word! this episode pissed me off. Storm lost her powers, this Broad Rogue is being a thot, my man REMY around the corner cryin, Wolverine still in his feelings over Jean, Cyclops sleeping with the wrong broad. X-Men ‘97 is a 2024 reality show!
He was actually a kid in WW2, meaning he’s probably in his 50s or early 60s at the latest, while she’s in her late 20s early 30s at least, so the age gap is only 20 years. If they’re both consenting, there’s nothing wrong with the relationship
This is the plot I hate from this show. X-men fans know that Rogue would never cheat on Gambit. And the Rogue/Magneto thing happened when Rogue and Gambit hadn't even met yet
