You mean you set up the coordinates wrong on purpose? I just saw it happen twice, now with N on "g-3" when it's on b-3! I don't understand. What is meant by "big coordinates test"?
I am pretty sure if not for the game 7, Ding would have pretty easily found Rook D3 winning move even in later part bishop C6 defending pawn instead of kicking Knight. To sum up, Ding lacked situational awareness here which is also an important aspect of any sport. Like in the previous game, he played h4 which was not a bad move but considering his time situation not called for. Also, he under estimated his position, he had 0.6-0.7 advantage till the move he froze & turns a promising position into a loss. Actually, if he had gone for even less concrete moves & made a draw in game 7, no one would have complaint given the match situation. In game 8, Nepo took Ding's psychological aspect into account. He played a lost position by throwing his moves fast & forcing Ding to move at his pace instead of finding killer moves by taking some time. Yes, he made many blunders but even his blunder played on Ding's fear! Now, it's upto Nepo to throw the match. For me, it's done & dusted.
Funny how Ding's blunder of not taking the rook on d8 is a move that most amateur players would not have missed. Nepmniachtchi's buff was a genius move!
@@1994mrmysteryman With 20+ minutes on the clock and with ability to visualise board and moving pieces it was easy to escape the perpetual. Yes you have to calculate dozen moves but it's not like you have many choices on each move. Commentators calculated it in less than 2 minutes. Even if we factor in in game pressure it's still matter of 3 minutes and may be another 2 for double checking. Ding just played terribly in this game.
Thanks a lot Jerry for the recap! Amazing game (and championship). Every time a winning position was thrown away I was thinking “so, this is the blunder” but wow… the news you dropped at the end is huge! I’m shocked, thanks for sharing it.
Pretty frustrating. Some of the missed lines are understandable for Ding, but the later blunders are not really excusable if you aim to win the WCC title. And the fact that they also leaked their own prep in such an amateur way, is just the icing on the cake. Was excited for the match because of the decisive games so far, and the prospect of having a new champion. But with the knowledge of Ding's prep and how the last two games went, I can't see how this ends in anything but a win for Nepo, unless Ding's team comes up with something brilliant on the fly.
Man, what a tragic outcome for Liren. There is nothing more painful than letting a pivotal championship game slip through your fingers. Wow. I can almost feel his pain...
Holy crap. That's like the Allies decoding Enigma. Ding's camp either made a horrible tactical error, or they're playing 3-D chess and trying to lure Nepo's camp in with a red herring backed by a thrown game!!??
Very unlikely. The accounts played a lot of games and the games line up too well with what we've seen so far. I'm saying horrible tactical error. Only hope for Liren is that Nepomniachtchi is honourable enough to not look at the games. But I don't think anyone would be mad if he did.
Oh, by the way, your coordinates were reversed on the board in this video. Not a big deal, but might throw off some lesser experienced players trying to get a grasp on the notation.
But WHY would you put your prep on a public server? Surely there are lesser known chess sites that don't keep a full log of all games played. Star Wars chess App, Pokemon theme chess, My Little Pony ffs
When did he say it was a bluff? In the press conference he said he thought it was brilliant and like 90 seconds into Ding's turn he realized it wasn't a perpetual.
Obviously, this has been a far more swingy set of combative games than we're used to seeing in a world championship. But is it me, or has it been consistently centered around kingside attacks? Perhaps I'm not seeing the big picture, but it does feel like we've seen a lot of these aggressive king-side positions in all of the crucial games.
A really nice idea, new to me but it makes so much sense as I really love the Catalan because you can often place your rook opposite the opponents queen with this it's of course also possible
Easier to see the use in xiangqi since there's nothing getting in its way on that rank and the rooks are the strongest pieces in that game, you see "rook" to "H7" then "C7" very often
So bf3 pretty much gave up ALL the leverage for white on the whole board. I was wondering what happened, and apparently the engine says I'm right. I stopped watching just a couple moves before that and had to go to sleep. That's sad, man. Of course there were other bad moves, but it looks like that really is where white screwed up, trying to chase that knight away and losing his d pawn that was essentially the entire position. When he played D5 the commentators were surprised but I had just been calculating that move and the lines it offered and it seemed very promising. It had real possibility of setting up some tactics, splitting Nepo's focus between the middle of the board and the kings side because if you only focused on one area, with those two mobile rooks and the open h file, it really could've put Nepo in a losing position where his resources would've just been spread too thin. Ugh. Even still, Ding managed to pull out a really good game with some good chances after that HUGE collapse in game 7, so I hope he's not beating himself up too bad before game 9. He got really low on the clock again, which I think did him in ultimately, overlooking that knight grabbing the pawn. Even still, he didn't HAVE to take the knight with the rook, he could've still played bc6, but he had very little time. At least we're getting to see some exciting WCC play, and both guys have had really great moments, but also some really big learning moments.
During the live coverage they suggested Ding had a forced win around move 20. You didn't show it so I'm assuming that was not available. Is that not correct Jerry?
I don’t know how to put this, so I’ll try my best. Im enjoying these games because it feels like they are playing one another. Like they are taking into consideration who they are playing against as much as the situation on the board. It feels like everyone is too intimidated of Magnus to play anything but against the board on a WCC match.
Hmmm... Jerry, despite your comments I still do not understand the SIGNIFICANCE of the LiChess practice games. So what if Nepo now knows? (Or are you saying he knew before Game 8 that this was a probable line? Or are you saying that Nepo can now access Dings prep in various other lines, thus invalidating all their pre-match prep? Or are you saying something else? What about Ding/Rapport playing publicly, on purpose, knowing that Nepo would certainly find out. Could this sort of Disinformation + PsyOp have any useful purpose?) It is a fascinating subject, but what is it that you are saying exactly?
I think the concern is that now that this is public, Nepo's team can (and likely already has) looked at every other game played by these accounts, and may be able to predict what openings Ding will play next
@@arcterus9060 it's not about Nepo having access to anything. It's about someone being stupid enough to leave preparations in public space for anyone to grab.
why down 1 point in the championship would you offer a draw, he could have won the round and made it more tough on nepo. now hes got black pieces again and stuck in a hard spot.
Isn’t there an option on lichess to play private games? Couldn’t they have at least deleted those accounts and the records of those games? Or is every online game just permanent public knowledge?
Tbh I can sympathize with Team Ding here. Ding has been pretty infamously trapped in China and unable to play international competition due to China's hilariously inhumane lockdowns. Probably it wasn't legally possible for Ding and Rapport to get within 1000 miles of each other a month ago. Could they have done better, yes, for instance they could use the lichess code to setup their own server, but on the whole, it seems likely that they were prevented from being physically able to train together, which is an absolutely brutal circumstance to be in as a world title contender. Is it a mistake, yes, but it's so easy for me to sympathize with them.
I mean a lot of countries prevented international travel at the time, so it doesn't have much to do with China's particular policy, more just that there aren't a lot of top-level players in China that Ding could have had as a second and trained against.
@@sashaboydcom nah in 2022 most of the world had gotten over their fear, but not china. ding was basically unable to compete in 2022, even as the rest of fide held normal events.
So basically Nepo can win this by nerves/timeing-problems and an information-leak ... Ding outplayed him often and easily, but that does not help. Anyway, I believe Ding can come back!!!
@@Sn28sept so: 20: ... Nh4 21: g5 Nf5 22: f4 Rh8 23: Rah2 Rxh2 24: Rxh2 ??? 25: Qh3 Qh8 26: Qxh8 Rxh8 27: Rxh8 Kxh8 28: d7 Pawn queens next move, don't see how you can prevent that (except for trading your queen on the 24th move for the rook, but idk if that would even work).
@@Abwehr9after 22.f4 i will not play Rh8...i will take ur pawn boldly😊. probably you will continue your plan stacking rooks.Then i gonna play Rg8 so that my king can escape. Probably i am missing something hope you find that.
@@looinrims Oh yeah, and bobby fischer one day brutally blundered a bishop like a rookie. There is a whole compilation of super gms blundering in classical, and also, you realize how many more games people play today, then like 20-30 years ago? Its harder to stay consistent.
@@Relinger The knight doesn't protect itself? Read my comment again. Also note that the lettering and numbering for the squares is incorrect in the video.
Wow! What a game. I can’t believe Ding failed to put that away. I’m also struggling to understand why, if his prep was public knowledge, Nepo subsequently still found himself in atrociously losing positions so often in this game.
They only know NOW after R-a2 was played TODAY because that was the only previous game with the R-a2 move in the lichess database, between two accounts only created in March 2023.
Dammit, I want to share this video with my nephew who is into chess, but the reversed board will confuse him. Could you please reupload it with the board corrected?
