GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Until Dawn In A Whole Bunch Of Minutes 

this game is one of the few "your choices will matter" games that seem to do their best to make it happen. you can kill every main character, you can miss large portions of the map, etc. It's probably as good as you can do without rewriting an entire game fourty times.

the one sin that makes the most sense - why the the hell did josh focus so much on torturing Sam and Chris soooo much, when they were the LEAST to blame? Chris was completely uninvolved and Sam LITERALLY TRIED TO STOP IT. Mike was the most at fault, followed by Jess since they both orchestrated it, and Josh literally sent them AWAY FROM ALL THE SHIT HE SET UP. The only things he did to Matt and Emily was lock a door and inadvertently send them up into a fire tower. It's so confusing

"No guns in the Lodge" Yeah, no shit. Josh made sure there were none because that would get him killed. Wat.

Jess telling Emily that she has all the natural advantages is actually proving Emily's point of Jess having to sleep her way into a job

You should have sinned one of the most stupid moments in the game, which is when Sam and co. leave Ashley behind because they can't wait 5 seconds for her to close the sewer hole, leading to her potential death. Also, Matt leaving his axe at the bottom of the radio tower when they think they're being chased by a psycho killer.

I like how the Wendigo have really jerky, sudden movements. That kind of moving terrifies me, and is really good for making me hate the bloody things, in whatever form of media.

Also the "fourth phone this year" thing makes Jessica look even worse, when you consider the fact that it is only February... the year began two months ago... HOW!??

27:02 “THEN WHY DID YOU COME TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY DIED LAST YEAR?!” Thank God I wasn’t the only one who is pissed off at that

ya know i never realized how weird it was that even though Jess was already part of the friend group from the opening, for some reason they switch to acting like she's a new addition.

There's enough starwipes to create a whole new constellation.

OMG when he said Hannah was a bitch I never really thought that until he explained it lol.

If you choose for Matt to try to save Emily, Matt will die, and in the ending police interrogation, Emily says she doesn't care about Matt because he left her there to die. But, if you choose to leave Emily to fall, resulting in Matt gets to live (depending on if you don't die later while playing as Matt), and then Emily is all concerned about if Matt is alright or not. Did they accidentally switch those to scenes in the credits for Emily? Either way, what a bitch. *Sin*

Seems like they went for the "Everyone lives" ending. Unlike telltale, your choices really do matter.

"Your girlfriend is calling for help, saunter faster!" Hahaha! Love that.

You missed "Clearly experienced survivor with years of history fighting the Wendigo dies five minutes after hes introduced." Great vid dude, better than the competing gaming sins channels.

This game was great but I just never got over the fact that sam and mike never froze to death. They were terribly underclothed and they even waded in water, which would surely result in hypothermia. Also Sam packed rock climbing clothes as if she knew she was going to climb

Actually at 16:40, in the basement scene while Sam and Josh are talking, there’s a few seconds where you can see Chris sneaking around behind the shelves to get past them. It’s very subtle, but that’s how he gets down into the basement past them.

The Starwipe shall be the response for all future lame jumpscares. So say we all.

How did josh know where everyone was in the prank if he was passed out at the time?

the reason it took sam “so long” to draw the bath was because all most the events are all happening at the same time. as mike and jess go up to the cabin is right when sam goes to start her bath so the scene where she says “hardy-hard” is happening as jess and mike are going to the cabin. its all happening at the same time

"this game is already too much like supernatural" OOHHH SHIIIITTT

So you're not gonna point out that Jessica was standing still when the Wendigo grabbed her? Sure, she was moving and shouting outside before But the moment the Wendigo actually attacked her she was leaning against the door

"Dawn, at the earliest. Not until dawn, over." "Role credits." This bothers me so much but holy shit it is such great wordplay.

Chris is a dick to squirrels. Crows are dicks to Sam I died laughing XD

I love how ALLL the girls have perfectly manicured nails that stay perfect until the end of the game. Check it if you don't believe me.That's almost impossible.

Don't understand why people like Hannah so much. She didn't deserve to die, sure. But she wanted to get it on with a friend who was her other friend's boyfriend. If that isn't a breach of confidence that deserves total humilation, I don't know what is. I just can't bring myself to like her. Emily though at least is honest in her egotism and one hell of a tough woman. Ashley is the most human, tries to stay strong but succumbs to her weakness now and then. Sure, I also like Sam, but she's practically superhuman in terms of abilities and psyche. That's reassuring, but not very entertaining.

21:31 Emily is LITERALLY saying what the player has to do. I love games that reference the player.

5th time watching this and I still don't get why they didn't bring any snacks and drinks with them...

This game is very creepy. Not because it's trying to be, but because the faces give me the uncanny valley effect.

"Mike should have shot him, he's heavily armed" Said the guy who just sinned someone for thinking the gun would actually shoot.

I lose all respect for Until Dawn videos when they say your choices don't matter. I've seen a lot of different outcomes. They matter. Also the fact that they die whether or not you drop Hannah or let go is important. That's the past. You can't change the past.

How does the ENN stay on the air when their only listeners are protagonists, you ask? Because EVERYONE is a protagonist. In that world, every individual is the star of his or her own specific storyline, and the ENN takes care of the exposition for ALL OF IT. They are an extremely powerful and thorough network.

I want to see a playthrough of this game where everyone makes the choices that the characters would genuinely make, given their personalities

Why is it that in anything horror, everyone loses the ability to flick a goddamn light switch?

well, Hannah and Beth both HAD to fall of the cliff, otherwise the story wouldn't have worked... who played through the whole game, knows what I mean Oh and the other choices effect your story and the end for real.

He forgot to mention that the wolf made no sound as the Wendigo approached it. Mike is calling for the wolf to jump down with him and as the Wendigo came up on the wolf Not Once did the wolf growl nor did it at least whimper out of fear. It didn't even yelp before it died. The fuuuck.

U probably know this but I still want to say it, you do know that the game is based on horror cliches right?

Even with the flaws I liked untill dawn it could have been better and for sure could have been worse

Obviously you can't control how the prologue turns out. It HAS to happen to set the events for the rest of the game. Why do people always complain about this point?

these actors are in their mid twentys and they are supposed to be playing teens ? no dude, the actors are in their mid twentys and they are playing characters that are in their twentys

That song is saying "oh death"? That makes way more sense, I thought it said "oh dad"

Here's another sin: If Chris knocks Josh out in the shed, Handigo still manages to find Josh and kidnaps him, even though an unconscious target shouldn't be moving and wendigos are effectively blind to stillness.

The "Mike - 2015" quotes were cracking me up. I actually laughed out loud instead of breathing heavily through my nose with humor!

THEN WHY DID YOU COME TO THE SAME PLACE WHERE THEY DIED LAST YEAR... This, this alone made me finish this video, sub and watch 8 others at 6 am.

18:50, the game takes place on February 2nd-3rd, what the hell has she been doing to break three other phones

17:04 Ashley broke the #1 rule when it comes to ouija boards: NEVER ask if there's anyone there. You risk summoning demons and allowing them to hijack your body. Damn Ashley, do you not watch cliché horror movies?!

no subtitles on the game? literally unwatchable edit: lmao i've never seen people so outraged over such a minor complaint. i'm sorry for my crimes, i've been tried and i'm currently doing time in the youtube prison for disliking the lack of subtitles

Pause at 17:43 and look at the background

Am I the only one who thought Matt was way hotter than Mike? Matt is probably the only likable character (in my opinion anyway) in the whole game besides Sam. Mike just reminds me of Nathan Drake who's kind of a douche. He also looks like the kind of guy who'd enjoy a Jersey Shore episode. Again just my opinion.

"Plus she's rich." "Hannah is a b*tch" Yo that rhymed

Nobody has like ever noticed the other windigos have clothes yet Hannah is wearing panties. She was dressed. Two sets of clothes even.

See, when I say "I'm just getting into the bath!" I mean that the water has filled the tub, I'm probably half way naked at least, and I've already got one foot in the tub. When Sam says she can't help Josh set up the fire because she's "just about to get into the bath", she's fully clothed and hasn't drawn any water at all. This was honestly something that ticked me off so damn much

A sin I noticed is that the board game Chris drew out from his robe, is way too small to fit the giant wooden spirit board. And from the looks of it, it doesn't seem to be able to fold either. And watching this video again, I noticed Jess said "That's like my fourth one this year". This game takes place in February. Meaning she managed to lose three other phones within two months. And in The Flamethrower Guy's journal, Sam read about him locking the Wendigos in the sanatorium, which is what she wanted to warn him about. The sin here is that Ashley read it first, so she should have been the one to have noticed.

Jessica fell down multiple stories of an elevator shaft with twisted metal following her down. I don't think Mike was wrong for thinking her dead 😄

You forgot that they all had the most boring cliche names that make it difficult to remember who they are: Ashley Samantha Jessica Emily Chris Michael Matt Josh Literally the most boring names ever. And almost everyone who played through it struggled to remember whos who bc their names are so not unique or can be even possibly tied in w their personality or appearance to help memory

This guy has a nice voice.

"I remember that thing that happened right behind me that I never saw."- Dartigan That had me laughing

Another sin: I didn't see the characters eat or drink anything so how did they have the energy to run? I would've been starving after the first hour 😭

Dartigan is amazing, but he DID have *one* error. At 26:46, he said that it was a dollhouse diorama of the prank they pulled on Beth, but HANNAH was the one being pranked, not Beth. She just chased after her when Hannah stupidly ran outside without any warm clothes or jacket.

I have no idea if this has been addressed, and I know this video was made years ago, and this doesn’t even matter much, but some sins are just from not paying attention like with Mike’s gun. That is a loaded gun that Mike obtained in the sanatorium. The guns don’t even look the same. The door Chris struggles with is a different door tho that scene is still ridiculous lol. The flamethrower guy drops his bag as he walks into the lodge. The next scene after Chris comes back we see the group in the basement. It’s likely they took it down with them.

This is the first game where your choices actually does matter.

One thing I don't like that they missed about the Windego lore is that it can possess you in your dreams. That chick was out for a good long while, it would've been a nice moment.

I wish Blockbuster still existed for these types of games. Perfect to rent for a week. Definitely not worth to waste money buying it and owning it though.

I always find myself coming back to this video 4 years later. i played the hell out of this game and got the platinum trophy. Your humor and how you describe the characters in the game makes me cry laugh at some points. I loved this game and i love this video.

Until Dawn is one of the best games I have ever played!

Well, Mike does work for HYDRA. That would explain the shotgun with the infinite bullets.

This was a new gaming experience I enjoyed immensely, cliche on purpose had it's faults but overall pretty awesome

You and GCN should do a collaboration together.

I'm surprise that they didn't say how Ashley said she'll "protect" Chris at the saw blade but once you shoot her she gets pissed off and kills Chris

Before I say anything, I want say that I am a huge fan and I love your RU-vid channel (shout out in particular to the FFXIII sins videos, I have re-watched them countless times). There are a few things I wanted to point out (some in response to some of the sins and others my own interpretations). I am sure others have mentioned them as well, but I haven’t seen them in the comments lol. -For the sin about having barrels of combustible fluids, I believe that the flamethrower guy must have amassed them from somewhere, it may not have anything to do with the sanatorium itself. -The reason Sam reacted the way she did when she saw flamethrower guy’s journal is that she learns that he has several wendigos in captivity in the sanatorium, which is where Mike is headed. -The ghost lady jumpscare was explained in-game. While playing through that scene, you can find a camera, and I THINK a projector of some sort (can’t remember, but I know there were two clues in that one room). It wasn’t the robot that Josh built. -I believe Josh never encountered a Wendigo while setting up the prank because he never left close proximity of the lodge, while flamethrower guy had all of the other wendigos under control. It’s not super clear when Josh set it all up so Hannah may not have become a wendigo at this point, and even then, she seems to retain some of her memories as a human, seeing as she has Josh in her hold in various parts of the game but doesn’t seem to harm him (until that one part close to the end). -Which brings me to another interesting point. It takes a really long time for the Hannah wendigo to actually go after Mike or Sam (there is even a scene where she pulls Mike under water and he escapes unharmed). I believe she still recognizes them and that she stops herself from going after them (which would explain not only how Sam escaped the Wendigo during the running back to the lodge scene, but also why it went after Jessica first and was so sneaky about it). I would remove a few sins for that. -Lastly I have a feeling that Emily is generally disliked, but can we talk about Ashley for a second? Girl is very gullible and dives into Josh’s plan headfirst at several points, panics every two seconds and ends up acting out in really dumb ways that put herself (separating from the group to find “Jessica” after reading herself that the wendigo can imitate its prey) and others (immediately jumping to the conclusion that Emily is becoming a wendigo for being bitten by one) in danger. Emily has an attitude but at least she can handle herself, whereas Ashley in an actual horror movie setting would probably die first. Anyway, I apologize for the long comment, and keep up the good work!! Your videos are hilarious 😊

"When are you gonna take her to the BONE ZONE?"-Josh 2016 "Jesus hot sauce Christmas cake, this is fucking unbelievable."- Mike 2016 "A sexcapade." Jess 2016 "Understand the palm of my hand, bitch." Emily 2016 "Whatever you say, princess." Matt 2016 "Boom. Butterfly effect." Chris 2016 " Just GO, get OUT OF HERE!" Ashley 2016 "Well, it seems a towel doesn't seem to be the best outfit for fighting off killer maniacs." Sam 2016 "Hold on! Hold on!" Beth 2015 ( the year before) "I'm such an idiot. I'm so dumb." Hannah 2015 "This mountain don't belong to the Washingtons. This mountain belongs to the wendigo." Flamethrower guy 2016

What the hell. if someone shoots themselves point blank,like chris has the option to, his childhood memories should be on the floor how is he still alive if he chooses to sacrifice himself?

*ASURA'S WRATH*. JUST DO IT.

This game is actually really good though, literally one of the best choice games out there

Thank you! I always wondered why the Flame thrower guy did not find Hannah before she turned cannibalism. She was down there for considerable amount of time, in area he spends a lot of time in. Heck she enough time to find and write a journal. The only plausible theory I can think of is that is the horror movie cliché of plot hole.

6:43 And YOU actually chose to shoot the squirrel. It would be a sin for the creators to give you the choice to shoot it. And according to GCN,if you did shoot it,you’re a sh*thead beyond measure.

I loved this game when I first played it..so scary and a good story..and the fact that ur actions can save or kill somebody makes it replayable..now I wanna play it again after see this

Lucky for Josh supernatural beings were torturing the real people responsible for his sister’s prank, while he did a Saw cosplay on the two people not really involved. Life works out

37:35 "DAT ASSSSS"

All I wanna know is why Sam didn't warn Hannah that they were trying to prank her. People are always saying she wasn't involved but she was fully informed of the prank.

firing blanks at yourself at point blank would still kill you, due to the force of the exhaust from the mini explosion from the cartridge

o death is an old folk traditional. every version of it is a cover. do people really think jen titus's is the originator? or that the cw's supernatural series somehow has dibs on it?

4:06 dude r u srsly not thinking about what’s revealed later in the game? Hannah and Beth were never found because Hannah survived and buried Beth, but she later dug up the grave, ate Beth and turned into a wendigo, leaving Beth’s head behind. So if you need an answer to that question, there you go

For the game's defense, Chris IS humorous. His humor's just shit is all

"This isn't the internet, Jess. This is real life!" LMAO

2:18 (Ish) i assumed phone was shown like that to show that they couldn't call for help or anything while they were down there.

-Sin in my oppinion because Mike jumped out from the side of the Bridge... and not behind some stuff that didnt existed like you said...

how did Josh set up the dolls perfectly? he was passed out drunk with Chris.

37:34 the real reason this game still amuses me

It's funny Hannah and Beth died because of the butterfly effect "BOOM BUTTERFLY EFFECT"

Half the "sins" in this video are discounted by playing the game to completion.

There is a possibility josh did hear or see the wendigo when he was setting up his game. He was off his meds and was obviously out of touch with reality and wouldn’t have questioned. That doesn’t explain why he wasn’t outright attacked or dead but it may explain parts of it.

8:42 okay but i personally disagree with that, emily was able to survive wendigos by herself, and escaped so many times while being a badass. shes at the very very least resourceful.

18:15 18:50 27:03 28:29 37:35 13:01 dartigan is a man of culture

Yes but this game had the line "Jesus hot sauce Christmas cake" delivered unironically. That revokes all the sins.

I don’t think you can blame the therapist for not being realistic when the point was that he was a delusion the whole time...

31:39 But that gun's not filled with blanks. It's the gun Mike found in the sanatorium, not the one Chris shot himself with.

@19:45, about Jess's phone, there's a really popular fan theory that Hanndigo had retained some of her humanity and got jealous seeing Jess about to sleep with the guy she had a crush on. So she threw the phone to stop it from happening and to lure them outside/to a place she could reach them

“Man one, fire zero.” - Mike 2015

Who saw markipliers play threw and he restarted cuz Ashley died