Two ways both can be true: 1. Steve/Alex can use energy at high efficiency. However, they cannot retain any of it. i.e. once fully grown, their Feed Ratio becomes *infinite.* No matter how much they eat, no usable energy can be absorbed from them. (Also, if they don't eat, their energy drops to zero as they swiftly starve...) 2. Stevelex is a rare/unique entity. Everything else obeys entropy (or some equivalent principle.) The above options probably aren't mutually exclusive.
@@misanthropichumanist4782 My intent in my comment was to point out the coincidence that both MatPat and Austin would make videos within one day of each other about the very same idea of Steve and Alex eating
@@misanthropichumanist4782 We know they are. They’re controlled by the player. Because of the End poem, we know that they’re canon, since the beings which ARE canon speak to the player. By extension, you are canon. It might be like Undertale/Deltarune where the player is actually the SOUL, and the body (the Player entity) and the soul exist separately. That’s why you can go into third person mode and why you can still see after you die. This is an underdeveloped idea and someone needs to take it to Reddit because I’m too lazy to.
Theory about Steve, he was the one ancient builder who actually managed to harness the power of death and life, which is why he always respawns after death, never losing his soul, and is destined to go from parallel universe to parallel universe freeing his own people from the end over and over again.
Good theory, may I add onto it? Maybe Steve is this chosen one, sort of like a savior to the ancient builders from the higher being they worship, hence forth why he can never die, as well as all of his superhuman strength and endurance and wisdom, he is human 2.0
@@squidsquid9992 Adding on to the strength and wisdom bit, he can carry over 2,000 kilos on his person and learns to do things he has never done before almost instantly.
@@etholus1000 The dude is more than a demigod; he has an inventory of 4 x 9, plus an offhand inventory slot. In each inventory slot, he can hold up to a maximum of 64 units of a given item (with certain exclusions). Each block in Minecraft is a cubic meter. This means Steve can somehow manage to carry 2304 cubic meters on him at any given moment and not be encumbered. Not to mention, the guy can cure any illness with a glass of milk. His immune system is phenomenal.
@@8829patrickcox8829 you have a point, maybe that's why the strider looks so different when it's out of lava, because it's not getting any energy from the lava.
It likely has to do with the fact that the warped forest was NOT created by some ancient builders for a safe haven but instead is a crimson forest that has been changed do the side effects of the introduction of non-native enderman.
@@onebilliontacos3405 it's more likely that warped forests were created artificialy, and the crimson forests are a natural evolution of the warped forests, likely effected by the nature of the nether. The hoglins only recognize the more natur-alized version of the forests, therefore they are afraid of the unnatural ones.
Lava cools REALLY REALLY quickly though if there isn't new energy being put in. So Lava wouldn't be a renewable energy source. Something should be keeping that Lava hot.
@@metazoxan2 Yeah, in real life, but in minecraft lava just is. So new theory...how does the lava of the Nether remain constantly hot and flowing? Matpat: Souls of dead children! >8D
Yeah. Plus, if the Nether is surrounded by celestial bodies, those would have an effect on it with their gravitational pull, thus keeping its liquid parts liquid. And I'm pretty sure there are deep sea plants that are so sensitive to light that they can use infrared light to perform photosynthesis.
He acknowledged that it is a other dimension in this video. Did you even watch it? The theory isn't even about it being the underworld, nor is any Game Theory video.
Lava is molted stone. When Earth formed, a lot of Suns energy and later asteroid impacts melted the minerals creating the liquid that tectonic plates float on. Lava and magma contain a lot of energy but it is not renewable. Evolution of life in Nether is a mystery anyhow. What lifeforms are native? What are alive in the first plase? Maybe ghast, blazes, magmacubes are natives and don't eat anything while all fungi and rest of the mobs originate from Overworld and ancient builders experiments.
@@EllenL11 I don’t think hoglins and piglins were caused by experiments, but was introduced and adapted to their environment so much that they lost immunity to overworld diseases
Not to be that guy but Power of death mean what power powers the nether as in jell as in death And piglins are one of the only things that live in that hell
What about Ghasts? I’ve heard that they might’ve been taken from the Overworld and trapped in the Nether, and I was curious about if they have a backstory as well!
Not sure which but I think one the Minecraft books has it’s insides and it’s a machine. This added to the achievement “ RETURN a ghast to the overworld” shows that was made by builders but was too dangerous so they locked them to the nether. I think that ghasts were neutral mobs but now that they’re in the nether they are in distress and want to go home to the overworld.
So the Ancient Builders also had some Variant of Water that can be used in the Nether? Hey, thats another cool feature that we will literally never see because Mojang wont explore anything mentioned in Minecraft-Theorys whatsoever.
@@danielr8257 Oh, then i misunderstood that. Thanks for telling me... ...I wont take my criticism of Mojang back though. They're wasting this rich Lore-full Game.
The beginning reminded me of how awesome the D&D Underdark would be in Minecraft. Also, there are literally oceans of evidence (in the form of lava in the Nether) that imply there is enough geothermal energy to keep all that lava really hot. And it's possible that the geothermal power is what keeps the Netherblocks (Syblocks but in the Nether) floating. In addition, my friend and I came up with the "terraforming" idea a while ago with an important supplement being new species of fungus based on the sculk stuff... Not just that but many quartz colorations (green, pink, yellow) are caused by iron impurities. With nether quartz appearing to be slightly pink when in nether quartz ore, it's safe to say that there are at least trace amounts of iron wherever you find nether quartz. Also, you find skeletons and fossils in the soul sand valleys... who's to say the area isn't made of fossilized fungi and decaying animal meat from an ancient era? That would make it quite healthy, and maybe the ancient fungus had caps resembling wailing faces. That would scare some creatures away! And MATPAT YOU FORGOT TO SAY "BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY"
I don’t fully agree with the Enderman ancestor theory because the book The End confirms that they weren’t created by the same Minecraft God that created humans, Lord Order (humans) and Lord Chaos (enderman)
The idea that the Nether's ecosystem runs completely on soul energy is awesome! I love how these ideas fit so well with lore, now even terraforming the Nether!
It's nice isn't it? Even though he completely skipped over the proverbial elephant in the room for the sake of continuing his soul theory. The Nether is filled with lava, and by extension, geothermal energy. In fact, if a plant could withstand the heat, there is more than enough light next to a lava lake to grow one. Organisms here on Earth prove that geothermal energy is a valid source in the lightless depths of the ocean, so there's the formula mandated real life comparison. Hardly anything even grows in the soul sand anyway, everything apart from Netherwart prefers growing on Netherrack
I wanna beliebe that its specificall Herobrine's soul that fuels it. He got banished there and died, and an entire ecosystem is being fueled by the raw energy that still to this day hasn't vanished and that means all the nether mobs have some herobrine inside them. He exists within every centimeter of the nether at once at all times
@@chaotixthefox That's exactly what I was thinking, why couldn't plants just grow with the lava? Our plants need sun, but plants in the nether might be able to adopt to fend off the lava.
With the unholy amount of lava, there had to be at least some energy before the builders got there. Where else did the native species come from? Or does evolution work faster in the nether?
@@TheCopelandr In his defence, the entire realm is covered in the faces of the damned. But yeah he should have considered other options, espeically as Soul Power doesn't explain how the Nether existed BEFORE the builders showed up.
@@TheCopelandr Thing is though, how the hell would you harness that geothermal energy? Geothermal plants use a ton of heat, sure, but in order for that to be converted to USEFUL energy it needs to heat something ELSE. In most plants that's water but that's obviously a no-go in the Nether. Fossil fuels don't work either since they don't exist in the Nether. The only option is biomass, but even then that's basically the more science-based angle of the soul energy anyway. So we'd just loop back to souls.
Game theory: the theory of the illagers testing and experimenting on villagers and the zombies under igloos connection. Igloos are definitely isolated, and I feel like they eventually had enough outcasts they band together to start their own cult in the mansion, trying to convert villagers with the use of mind control with the red mushrooms they are growing and then implanting the lapis after.
You know this makes the fact that they literally made a Soul Capturing device in the Respawn Anchor to allow you to reconstitute yourself in the Nether more interesting
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This sort of explains the whole update to begin with. At first the nether was empty with just lava but after the portal was made and the builders died, their souls began to start the circle of life in the nether witch eventually made forest and stuff.
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Right after Young MatPat explains that it is impossible to pour water in the nether, he then goes on to say that the warped forest was created with the use of water itself.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 The temperature has probably vastly increased since the time when the builders first arrived. Thousands of years relatively. In the beginning, the water probably rapidly heated rather than instantly vaporizing and it was in liquid form long enough to be able to irrigate the forests. Now, after thousands of years of the lava releasing more and more heat energy, the Nether has exponentially increased in temperature. That's the only explanation I can have for it.
@@Godly_Spartan Only problem with that is: if it's so hot that water instantly vaporizes because of heat, how does Steve survive for any length of time in the nether?
I totally thought this too! I thought he was going to compare to the ecosystems at the bottom of the Mariana trench powered by the heat and chemicals of volcanic vents.
"They get energy from souls" huh I would have thought it might be something like, you know, the abundance of geothermal energy as the Nether is literally filled with oceans of lava
@@metazoxan2 But as we don't know where the Nether is technically, the lava of the Nether could be heated by some other method, such as fusion thus giving it a continual source of heat in the same method as the sun does for plants.
@@metazoxan2 yes it is, radioactivs decay of minerals, along with the fluid friction in the mantle. Otherwise, the surface would be hot and the core would be cold.
@@Larper64 Also all the energy "lost" by inefficiencies has to go somewhere, you can't just "lose" energy. It becomes heat. Perhaps there's some system that's recycling that heat.
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@@imperialgaming1822 Well there are (admittedly simple) organisms that feed off chemicals in hot geysers on ocean beds which are powered by geothermal energy so maybe it could be the basis for at least some kind of rudimentary ecosystem.
About half way through I'd forgotten the premise of the episode and thought he was about to note all the hot and bright lava in the nether as a source of energy
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@@craytherlaygaming2852 He doesn't explain why heat wouldn't work. also I don't see why Geothermal energy can't be used. bacteria at the bottom of oceans can get their energy from geothermic vents under the ocean.
@@PhoenixTwoFiftySix I guess thats a point but theres a major issue with it. That still requires water for the proper organism to be able to harness it and well water just don't work in the never. As well as the fact that it's still a lossful system. There will never be more energy it'll continue to leak out. The bottoms of the ocean get their thermal energy from the crust of the earth via vents yeah. But first Water's the main reason it works. It's high heat-capacity means it can absorb a lot of energy. And second If you observe the structure of the nether, a little known detail comes into view. The ground itself is NOT stone the nether itself is a living organism. Meaning that heat is specifically waste heat, and from what I've seen. Theres no hints at even an organism that could harness the heat. Even if there was, theres no such thing as 100% energy conversion which is what would be necessary to sustain such an environment. Theres literally only one single event where 100% energy conversion happens in the universe. And thats after a massive amount of loss. That being the matter that gets crushed into a singularity. All that matter that is compressed past it's Swartzchild radius converts 100% but it still wastes way more of it's energy to be compressed. No natural organic life in any sense could evolve 100% conversion.
One thing to keep in mind (either way wheter the energy comes from souls or geothermal energy) is that while souls could be a 100% efficient source (or drift into it from outside the dimension) its just not required for it to be 100% efficient I mean yes at some point the nether would become lifeless without a 100% Efficiency but the same is true for The overworld and even in realitie at some point earth as a example is just going to be out of energy (due to the sun not being unlimitet) That still does not mean life refuses to form there cause it knows that at some point it will end As for where the energy comes from if not from overworld travelers using portals to enter it Well probably from whatever createt it (Wheter it was some god magic or whatever) And as for sustaining it As people mentioned there could be radiactive decay as well as it being a massive space that would continue underneath the bedrock (otherwise gravitie wouldnt make sense either since a Huge plate simply would not have this kind of Gravitie and once agein the same should be true for the overworld) Sure many of the things might not have ingame clues (atleast directly with indirect things like gravitie still pointing to it) but in the end there is a limit for how much we can find ingame (Not to mention the problems createt if you would want to create it the way its meant to truly be)
SAMEEEE Near the lava oceans, the soil is probably chalk full of thermophilic bacteria thats drawing energy from heat. Various other microscopic organisms eat those, like how it works in the sea, and mushrooms might be able to grow off of those.
I was even thinking "Yes the nether does not have sunlight sure. But... Wouldnt the abundance of lava, which glows brightly in the nether all over, produce photons that could be used for photosynthesis. Albeit less, but still there
Can you do a Game Theory on the phantoms that attack you when you don’t sleep for too long? In my mind they are both the coolest & creepiest looking enemies in Minecraft plus I’m very curious about how they “exist.”
@@themidnightotaku22 my personal theory is that they are shapeless inter dimensional beings or demon that feed on your hallucinations the reason I think they are other dimensional is that loot they drop can only be used to repair elytra which is a other dimensional object so clearly they are not from the overworld the way they spawn when you lose sleep in my personal headcanon is that they don't have actual physical form but the moment Steve start hallucinating cause of sleep lost they start feeding of him and manifest physical body in the form of Steve hallucinations and start physical attacking him
Hi Matt! I have a theory to propose. What if... The player got infected with a parasite that made the player go insane, the player gained powers to fly and manifest items on demand (now known as creative mode). He saw his species as evil and planned to kill them all (explains abandoned structures), the others fled in to the end, hoping for safety, they built battle ships with creatures that lift things only to destroy them, but they were found. They got punished, they transormed in to ugly, tall creatures that were once them (now known as endermen). The player made a dragon to keep the prisoners there and locked the portal, but now the parasite was meeting the end of it's life. The parasite made sure this player won't see the structures of his kind, The parasite destroyed every structure there was, but before he could finish the job... You wake up, in a new world, having lost your memory, your language, your people, you try to make sense of what was happening, you only remember the trip to the underworld before fading and going black. You make tools, wandering around the world, seeing the villages occupied by a less advance species, but some structures looking familiar too you. You see monsters, seeking revenge from their creator, attacking you with all their might, they look like you, still wearing the armour they had before you cursed them to travel the world with one goal, kill the player. As you advance, you notice the fortress, a labyrinth you made to keep you from reuniting what's left of your kind. You put the final keys in place, destroying the spawner filled with worms that suck your health out of you... You enter.. The rest it up to you Thank you
@@mfknbumblebee yeah same here because most of not all spirits are transparent figures and mostly impervious to any kind of physical touch by any other life form that is us and other living creatures in the overworld and piglins
Throughout this whole series, Matpat has referred to the mysterious ancient civilisation as "The Builders"... I wonder if they hypothetically had some hero/patriarch/deity called "Bob"? That'd be pretty cool.
He was a champion/celebrity of their society. He was the most skilled builder and the only one who had the technical skill to build Ancient City Portals/End Portals.
That's exactly what I was wondering. I mean, while it wouldn't have as much energy as the sun, lava has to have a decent amount of energy to it, right?
Yeah that felt like a more natural connection to what is there than souls, especially since in game the areas with a direct connection to souls (soulsand valleys) appear to be the most arid and least habitable areas for life in the nether.
You are absolutely right. There are a few ecosystems even here on earth that do not rely on the sun. I think the geothermal activity of the nether paired with plants that can turn heat energy into a form of glucose is much more likely than plants that turn solos into glucose.
@@pizzac00l yeah. I also feel like lava is the main energy source for the native life in the Nether, before anything came in. Then, when soul sand and soul soil became more prevalent due to an influx of invaders, the extinction of the behemoths implied to have once existed, or both, certain life forms like the Nether wart, a species likely derived from the crimson fungus, evolved to tap into the soul energy.
I just realized something: When you kill an evoker, they don't pop the totem, but when you kill it it drops it, so maybe the reason the illagers do raids is for souls that in turn are used for totems that would give them immortality. like this so matpat can see
I always imagined that the Warped forests were just diseased versions of the crimson forests. Thats why Piglins and hoglins don’t like it, it’s diseased.
@The DJ_Faith Because they're immune to disease, like the players. It could also simply be a warped area due to a stark increase in interdimensional travel from the Endermen, of which the Piglins fear due to a natural survival instinct. This theory does fall flat though since Piglins don't fear enderman directly, so who knows
Interesting.... It doesn't really make sense that the warped forests came first, and the crimson ones afterwards. If the Ancient Builders truly flooded the Nether, which, might I add, is ridiculous, and the warped forests were a result of that, then why are the hoglins and piglins more comfortable with the crimson forests, despite the fact that the warped forests are more or less indigenous? Also, just so you know, I'm not implying that that's what you said. I know you said nothing about the chronological order of the warped and crimson forests.
@@parallax256 The issue is, why those specific areas? Ie, why only warped forests? There's something we're missing, either information that hasn't been given to us yet or something we haven't figured out
I just realized he glanced over the fact (on basically every episode about souls) that dying to splash potion equate into "killed by magic" and most potion recipes require the nether wart made on soul sand really just keeps suggesting souls really are a source of power.
@@jotarokujojoester6294 there’s bacteria and such in the bottom of the ocean where no light can reach that live on and around under sea volcanos, using their heat and released gasses to produce food, and those bacteria are then eaten, essentially replacing the sun with geothermal power.
@@rennocsdrawde9382 I guess your right but most oceans in Minecraft only go down barely even a hundred blocks probably not even that. In reality I understand that because the oceans in the real world go thousands of feet deep. So what I’m saying is that even if their is bacteria in Minecraft there would be no need for them to feed or absorb those gases if they have access to the sun because I’m pretty sure the suns energy can reach a few hundred blocks. Unless your specificity talking about the real world then In that case you are right about that.
@@jotarokujojoester6294 I think that what they're saying is that it's possible for organisms to utilize available heat energy, not that they need the same explicit conditions to do so. So, theoretically, an organism in the Nether with no available sunlight would use the available heat energy around it to compensate.
Speaking of minecraft lore, one little minecraft fact that may or may not be coincidential: An entire beacon pyramid fits perfectly in the top of a desert pyramid
@@organichotchoco if that was the case then why did they build the temples out of sand stone instead of the blocks that actually power the beacons like iron, emeralds, gold and diamonds
@@jotarokujojoester6294 maybe they didn't understand how beacons worked fully and thought it just needed a pyramid, maybe that could be why they are so big. Or they just removed the gold and put it somewhere else (i.e the underwater temples).
Minecraft Story Mode explains why the Nether travels the player more blocks because of the world beneath the bedrock which could relate to us below as Steve and Alex's head are found in the game as targets for the admins games oddly enough. We then find no signs of illagers yet and according to Matpat's theory it suggests that mcsm took place before the events in Minecraft Legends with playing of gods, trimmed armors, portals, experimentation. Just lore I gathered hope this helps!
mate, he ignored literally every result on google images to say that the Warden is filled with souls and not an enderpearl; (MC) he also implied that RADAR doesn't use light; (WW) and ignored the possibility that souls themselves may be an energy positive system.(MC again) Long story short, he didn't mention it because it would mean he can't make a theory on it and at this point thats pretty much all he cares about. Its a cynical view but willful ignorance is the only possible way to explain how he managed to get an image of a damaged warden with a fractured ender pearl while completely and utterly ignoring literally every other image showing an intact ender pearl in the warden's chest.
Right? There's entire ecosystems based on geothermal energy. The nether could easily sustain itself off micro-organisms that convert heat to chemical energy, then larger plants would probably be able to either live in symbiosis or thrive off the biomass produced by them.
Hi I just want to propose this theory idea on a game called Rimworld, its mostly sandbox but there were a few bits of "lore" like the Insect War or where the mechanoids came from or the reason on why the ship crashed, Im a HUGE fan of your videos at a young age and even until now, keep up the good work and do what you love best Mat
Actually, that really does make sense and I've thought that before. That might also be why the Ender Dragon attacked the ancient builders when they first arrived; she thought they were a threat to her unborn child. Also, considering that you can only leave the end after defeating the dragon, she might've held some sort of power over the portal that vanished once she was killed by Steve/Alex. It's the same thing with the other mini-portals that lead to other parts of the end. (The endermen already in the other parts of the end might've been transported there by the dragon, or just spawned there after going through the portal in the overworld. (They couldn't have teleported because they weren't endermen yet and built cities and ships there before they evolved.)) The reason the dragon doesn't want the builders to leave is because she's worried they'll steal her egg and leave with it. (This is just my theory on the whole subject.)
While many have asked if the lava could be useful, it actually raises even more questions. While lava in Minecraft seems to be a lot cooler than real lava, it still must be pretty hot. But, the thing is the lava in the nether must be cooling down for the same fundamental reasons, namely that heat would slowly leak out into the void around the nether. So, how is that lava still flowing? Why has it not cooled to stone and rock? One answer is that something is using souls to keep it hot.
i also thought about it, but if we think the nether as a isolated system not a closed one=(energy cannot escape) you cannot use geothermal anymore and also if matt theory is right because of the constant input of energy fron the overworld the nether will eventually be completely molten
Yeah I thought about that too. In fact, there are entire ecosystems on the ocean floor that thrive even without any sunlight. They get nutrients by collecting minerals from hydrothermal vents in the ground (basically like little mini volcanoes). If you haven't hear of them, I fully recommend googling yeti crabs :)
Pretty sure you're thinking of underwater Hydrothermal vents and/or underwater volcanoes. I don't think life can be sustained solely by lava since there aren't any species that live on a volcanic peak (I know this is a fictitious world, but I'm just saying that we shouldn't compare these Mobs to real-life creatures that live off of Hydrothermal vents). Sure, certain ecosystems of life can live at the base of a volcano, but those ecosystems thrive on the soil from the volcanic ash AFTER it cools down. There just isn't a species that will thrive off of the lava or be able to live in a lava-filled environment. UNLESS there's another energy source from which the organisms can survive (souls).
@@SerenaTheTurtle now replace all the water with lava could the ecosystem survive No it cant and in the nether its the same the striders litteraly float on top of lava to avoid it
Remember the LAPIS thing? Yeah, the ocean temple symbol on the front made of Dark Prismarine is the alchemist symbol for LAPIS. Edit: This was my mistake, I misread or had an incorrect source, the upside down triangle would NOT mean Lapis Lazuli.
@@scootergrant8683 Exactly, what? The symbol on the front of ocean temple is made of dark prismarine and it looks like dot above two V while the only alchemist symbol of Lapis I can find looks like h
I still think of the Nether being under the overworld, but even if it was, it's still completely secluded by unbreakable bedrock. Even if somehow, something gets through, above is just deepslate, which can easily be assumed is harder than stone since it takes much longer to break. So, there's probably no practical way to have energy and nutrients coming in from the overworld. No idea if that's how that works, but it's just a thought.
When you're done with this series I'd like to see a full video discussing a timeline of events that you've theorized why everything is the way it is in Minecraft
Lava is not a renewable energy source. Lava is just melted rock which will quickly cool when it gets a chance. Meaning the energy of the Lava would not just ... generated itself. New energy would still have to come from somewhere.
Magma isn't a source of energy. It is just a very dense pocket of energy but it will cool down with time unless something re-heats it, and with a world as large as the nether that is a whole lot of energy that the lava needs to reabsorb in order to remain liquid. That means that either the nether is slowly draining a limited supply of heat to sustain the rest of the world or it has an external energy source.
@@larstallinger6795 It doesn't have to be renewable. Much like how we get energy from the sun that will explode on day, so to does the nether get energy from the magma pools. It WILL eventually cool and become unusable, but what's important is that there is enough energy to sustain the ecosystem _now_ .
@@dennisshaykevich3451 True. But the energy has to have come from somewhere, right? The only other factor I can think of that came from places elsewhere is really the souls, as Matpat suggested-although you’re right in the regard that it could power the nether by itself for a while.
The joke about "feeding your soul with music" may just be a one-off transition to a sponsorship, but it legit made me think about how Minecraft Legends works because while in Dungeons you feed your magic with souls, in LEGENDS you feed your magic with MUSIC... ...since that's the exact thing that powers all of the allays' powers.
