Gamers were upset at this Roguelike Trailer 

Check in on your friends that are only playing AAA games and make sure they are doing okay lol

I don’t like the pixel style simply because I can’t see the bad bitch as clearly

It was so funny watching people who only play AAA games play Returnal and theyre like "wait why didn't my stuff come back after i died?"

Its funny when they dissed our indie games while they play the same ass game every day and kept complaining why theres no new good games are coming.

Me seeing the trailer: This looks sick Me seeing the gameplay: This looks sick, can't wait

Idm if the game is pixelated But when you show the anime trailer first you expect it to be like a handrawn 2d anime graphics I honestly thought it would be like street of rage 4

Its crazy how many people say they don't care about graphics then react like that when a pixel art game comes out. This is why you have so many big studios focusing on graphics over gameplay.

I think the main issue is the fact you show a trailer like that with so much style to build hype just for it to be rogue lite double dragon. If the gameplay looked like sifu I doubt there’d be as much disappointment.

I dont understand the guy was like "I'm so sick of roguelikes" Like, there are hundreds of millions if not billions of video games that exist. nobody is holding you at gunpoint forcing you to play roguelikes. Idk

This looks incredible honestly. With AAA falling flat, its the era for indies to shine

the main problem for me is when a game advertises itself with a cool and unique artstle that just isnt present in the actual game. its like a bait and switch, just like how fast food companies will artificially make their food look as good as possible in advertising but when you actually order it it looks like slop. the problem isnt with pixel graphics, indie games, or roguelikes, its with deceptive marketing

I can understand a bit of the dissapointment, the aesthetics and vibes of the trailer are not fully captured in the accompanying gameplay. And rougelikes are a bit overdone in my opinion. Still a cool looking game tho

Streets of Rogue is the game that I used to convince my cousin that pixel games aren't trash. He straight up refused to play EarthBound because it was a SNES game, and SNES = pixels, and pixels = bad. Which is just stupid logic

Gotta understand that people see the trailer and they are interested for the trailer, and the difference between gameplay and trailer is too big Imagine you go there, wanting to see anime girl beating people up and end up with yet another pixel games that don’t even have her face

This is like when you see a cool gacha game with great artwork and character designs. And then the gameplay has them as chibis.

All this "indies vs "the man" shlock feels like pure distraction from the actual issue that caused this. If your game doesnt look like don't starve, and they make you a trailer that looks like dont starve, then you just made a speedrun of ubisoft marketing. Enter the Gungeon and risk of rain returns get away with this because their style and fidelity is close enough to the animation, but something like gunbrella gets zero mileage out of it.

Learning how actual 8-bit and 16-bit games were programmed kinda ruined my appreciation for modern pixel art games because with a few exceptions (e.g. Animal Well) these games are unoptimized af

I really like that kind of anime art style and when it showed the pixel style in the gameplay I got immediately disappointed, not because I don't like pixel art but because my expectations were already shifted dramatically in the trailer. I think dead cells is good and that gameplay by no means looks bad, but I would've loved to get an actually anime styled action game because those really seem rare.

This whole video could be just dumbed down to "People got hyped from the trailer and got disappointed when they did a bait and switch with the gameplay."

I feel like anime cutscene hurt that games trailer. I was so hyped when I saw it and my reaction turned to "meh" when it showed actual gameplay... Even tho i play pixel indie games on regular basis.

The main thing is the difference between the trailer art and real gameplay is so large that it feels like false advertising. Games like Have A Nice Death and Crowsworn feel right on the money because the hand-drawn animation of the trailer and the gameplay are far closer to one another. If you present a beautifully designed animated trailer with a cel-shaded 3D trailer but present pixel art roguelike for the gameplay, of course, some people will feel lied to. Make a pixel art roguelike trailer next time. With things like this, I'm mainly left thinking: "Can we have an animated short film instead?"

I'mma be honest i was disappointed with the trailer, it goes from an amazing artstyle to the most generic pixel art I've seen in like 50 other games, if it tried something different with the pixel art it could've been less disappointing but its just so uninteresting.

I feel like everybody in this comment section who are saying they are hyped for the game and are defending it are lying. Like come on be honest, when you watched the trailer for the first time and watched the animation before seeing the gameplay, the least you expected was a roguelike. Can you really blame people for being disappointed. I love pixel art roguelike games, I play them all the time, but this is completely different. The setting doesn't even match the gameplay.

I think people were specifically mad about this one because the trailer was so high quality but the final product was a rather generic looking pixel rogue like and there’s a ton of those games not necessarily people being mad it was a pixel graphics game

I'm very excited about this game it's looks really good But when I went to tell my friends about it, they said, wow, another 2D game, what's even the difference Between it and any other 2d games and they haven't even tried any rogulikes or 2d games It's sad there are people who don't even try the game but they talk bad about it

personally I think the biggest issue is that almost EVERYTHING indie studios pump out nowadays are roguelikes. Actually, I don't think it's the graphics that get people, as stardew valley proves. but for SURE I think the fact that roguelikes are becoming a little oversaturated is what gets people a little miffed.

I kinda get where those people are coming from, the pixel art aesthetic is a tad overused in the indie scene. But hell dude, the gameplay is the most important part, if that isn't enjoyable, it doesn't really matter how good a game looks, you can have the most amazing graphics, if what you are playing barely feels like a game (too many cutscenes, little in gameplay), it just isn't going to be as fun, or at least that's my experience with it all.

My problem with the game that immediately put me off isn't the gameplay (I'm a sucker for beat em up games) but the fact that it's overly pixelated....i find this type of pixel art "bad" because the lack of detail is just...man it's off putting. A good example of good pixel art is stuff like: the messenger (especially after unlocking a certain game changing function after the delivering the scroll.), blasphemous, enter the gungeon, SANABI, Mother Russia bleeds, and katana zero. In those game, even tho the sprites are often small, it's so detailed that you can tell what ur looking at 100% of the time, hence why u don't see anyone making the same complaints seen here. If they just make it more detailed, maybe 16 bit, I would have no problem with it what so ever.

in my opinion: as much as i like Pixel-art, we really could use more hand-drawn games. like games made with traditional artwork! not necessarily exactly like Cuphead or Hollow Knight, but something along the lines.

There are so many beautiful pixel-art games out there (Record of Lodoss War: Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth, Dungeons & Dragons: Chronicles of Mystara, Owl Boy just to name a few). The visual clarity is also important to me.

My only disappointment is it looks too much like a mobile game I used to play called otherworld legends.

Pixel roguelikes at this point are ubiflop openworlds of indie scene.

The fact that after this very high quality animation it switches to the actual game, with pixel art so un-detailed it looks like placeholder sprites💀💀💀 Seriously, most of the characters didn't even get 2 extra pixels to represent the EYES, what even is this? I played a lot of games in pixel art style, drew a couple of sprites myself, and quality of this game just looks dire

Indie gamers will hate on aaa for reusing the "same gameplay" and style but glaze it when yet another dark fantasy or cyberpunk pixel roguelite that actually has "deep themes in the lore" comes out. Saying this as someone who likes many indie games, the circlejerking within our community is fucking crazy, the game def wasnt what I expected from the trailer.

Its not that pixelart is bad, its just that there seems to be so many good games wasted on "bad" pixelart. I will feast on anything that looks as sick as Castlevania SotN, but the problem is most Indie devs go for an 8 bit look which looks kinda meh most of the time. Dead Cells did a fantastic job on the pixel art, but something like Astral Ascent manages to have gorgeous Backgrounds and character portraits but fails to look appealing to me cause the character models look so damn awful. What devs do not seem to realise is that there is so much choice in games for players to choose, that in order to stand out they need to create something appealing. 8 Bit Models aint it chief.

I didn't even know of this game until this video, but from my experiences people who complain about games like this are just straight up not the market they're selling to. In my experience, the crowd thats usually very vocal about pixel art being bad tend to be the ones who think the only style should be next gen realism pushing to make the game the prettiest it can be. They also have a weird habit of being younger, since they grew up with that sort of stuff as their norm. Then you also have the crowd who don't 'get' roguelikes/lites. So you have two very vocal groups who literally can't stand anything outside of their personal preference being super vocal and shitting on stuff that other people would like just cause its not their jam. Its kinda sad.

People do judge pixel art but... they are right. Another indie game with an animated trailer that looks sick aaaaaand... is another pixelated ROGUELIKE

Disdain pixel graphics games and indie games is one of the worst things you can do to yourself as a gamer.

Ima be real with you chat, the pixel graphics are whatever for me right now. My real problem is I'm just tired of roguelites, they're starting to feel a tad bit inflated in the market right now. I know there's things about it that make it objectively a good genre, but I'm starting to see it a bit too much. I also feel the same about soulslikes, which i know will definitely get me on a watch list.

I mean, if you advertise your game for the first time with a 2d cinematic for the gameplay to be 2 bit is pretty deceiving. If the game was gonna be 2 bit, show it right off the bat. I’ll still look more into this game though, I like rogue-like games.

My only problem with this really is the transition between the trailer and the game. I like rouge-likes. Hell, I played Hades and saw the trailer. I just find it annoying that I would get fooled by the trailer itself, thinking it would be the exact same as the game, when in reality, I get fooled by it. Again, I don't hate rouge-like games, its the trailers that I can find it a bit misleading to the game itself.

Holy crap, Motion Twin and Devolver Digital? This boutta be sick!

I was honestly disappointed. It's basically false advertising.

So words from my brother that only plays AAA games(or just games made by bigger companies that are not in a pixel style). “First of all they look bad, second is I think that roguelikes are a cheap way to make a game have infinite replay potential(I think he is trying to say that even bad games will have infinite replay potential if it has all the default roguelike stuff)”. And he plays mostly Dota 2, all dark souls games, cs and some indie coop games(just google top 10 coop games and he played like most of them). I completely disagree with him lmao(sorry for bad English ~_~)

Pretty much anything Devolver has ever produced has slapped, I'm hyped for Tenjutsu personally. Edit: Also, did everyone forget about Minecraft and Stardew Valley?

why are y'all acting like that's a war between indie and AAA? i love pixel art and indie games but that one is just generic af

It's by Devolver, you know it's gonna be good, those guys cannot burn it when they're in the kitchen.

I can see why people are tired of pixel art. Like its been overused to death.

I think that the problem with top down pixelart rougelikes is that a lot of them are just EtG/TBoI clones that don't really add anything to the mix and that's why a lot of people hate on the genre, this game looks fire tho, can't wait to play it once it releases.

one thing am aware is never listen to these people take since they most likely play the same triple a slop.

Ngl im really annoyed cus the tweet implies its an "anime" inspired roguelike but when you watch thr gameplay it looks nothing like an anime, maybe some better wordinf would soften the blow, i do wish the game's style is like streets of rage 4, that would be so cool

2:35 The way he says game titles by adding an S to the end of them like he's your parent or something lol is criminal lmao!

I'm getting kinda sick of overrated mainstream indie games nowadays, I have no problems with pixel art, I liked Cave Story and Deltarune, my problem is that no one wants to try to do something else that hasn't already been done, it's always the same five genres: quirky earthbound inspired RPG, metroidvania, rougelike, 2D platformer and whatever we can call cozy (boring as fuck) games like Stardew Valley. Since almost all of them are pixel art, they barely have any identity, their only differences being things like the visual effects and whether they try to be 8 or 16 bits. The few who try something new don't get as much attention as they deserve: Ultrakill is great but you don't see many people talking about it in the same way they talk about other indies; Cave Story, a game that could be considered the reason why indie games exist, It doesn't have a fraction of the recognition that Hollow Knight does (although this is a good thing because then it can continue to be a niche game) Hold up brb

I like indie but I've also become sick of all the 2D roguelite spam. It's overcrowded, be it metroidvania or all the deck builders or Isaac clones. And then people complain about every teiple A being open world or a Sony 8h cutscene walking sim. Double standards. Both sides should up their game. Indies should learn how to 3D and triple A how to make...gameplay

The thing is, they just baited and switched. They showed a really cool ass trailer but when they switched to gameplay, it was meh. And that's coming from someone who adores Dead Cells and generally pixel/2D games. Like the gameplay doesn't even compare to what they originally showed.

Another game to wait other than slik song have been added ti my list... Any day now...

Thai looks like otherworld legends

Ngl, the transition between fully anime cutscene to pixel art gameplay kinda gave me a bit of whiplash, but after keeping on watching it, gameplay looked dope as hell. Can’t wait for this to be out and finally play it

It’s not like this is the first game to use an animated trailer. As you pointed out, two of the most popular games of the last handful of years have had multiple animated trailers ie Vampire Survivors & Dead Cells and I doubt people would consider those games to be lying about what they are simply because they put out a handful of eye catching animated ads. Yeah the anime art style in Tenjutsu’s trailer looked cool but I’m not sure what people think indie game development is to expect the game proper to look exactly like it. These are small studios who often spend their limited resources on games that are low demand performance wise but have extremely tight fundamentals & need to spare some of their budget to market themselves in the vast ocean of games out here. I at least have respect for a marketing push that actually includes gameplay of the game in question like Tenjutsu when so many other companies particularly in the AAA space hide their own games’ ultimate quality behind a slew of cinematic trailers & cagey crumbs about what it is actually like to play.

Watched the trailer fully expecting that shi to look like Streets of Rage 4 😭😭

It gave me whiplash showing the cool ass trailer vs what it actually looked like

This looks near identical to this mobile game called otherworld legends.

Nah gonna lie. The cutscene hooked me, and then the gameplay just bash me in the head. Look pretty fun, but just... Meh. Maybe I'm just feed up in roguelikes or pixel games. I played those like a freak back then, now just want something more expansive.

See trailer of another AAA game: that game looks so good! After i see gameplay: o... it's another multiplayer shooter...

This is why nobody should take Twitter seriously. Just play the games you like, instead of having insufferable twitter people telling what games you should or should not play.

This game looks UH 👏 MAZE 👏 ZING 👏! I just reinstalled Dead Cells.....all my save data was corrupted 😭. I always go to the bank even biome two.....I know I know I know but I can't help myself 😂

I like pixel games, but im tierd every "indie" game is pixels now, they saw stardewvalley and everyone tought lemme just do that too but diff generes, some pixel games are really good and pretty, but some really just feel lazy

Not my man trying his best to ignore HoloCure sitting right there 😂

my problem is even dead cells looked better than that the character has a way better design in dead cells

Not at all surprised, gamers that complain about games that don’t appeal to them have existed for a long time now. Whether they whine about AAA or Indie games, yeah none of that is going away. Well I’m a gamer so I’m interested in whatever looks interesting to me, be it AAA, AA or Indie and this is one of those. I’ll be honest, at first I was bothered about the reveal only to show that it was pixelated which honestly they could’ve went a different way with it but yeah.

Definitely playing the beat em up. Had me mad hype.

I think people are upset that the gameplay graphic doesn't look like the trailer

They say, save the animation trailers for when your game becomes really good.

Dude, do your research, Hades is a 3d game. The textures are hand-painted, even. Why you listing it on a just of pixel art games??

These ppl are just casuals who only play AAA games with pretty graphics, these ppl are easily distracted by pretty lights, 90% of the games they play are purely cinematic experiences with usually very basic and dumbed down gameplay, these games barely count as real video games, and when an actual real game is presented to them they are completely negative without ever playing any of these games, i bet the person who said " im sick of roguelikes" has never played an indie game, nevermind a roguelike, the best indie games of the last 10 years have either been metroidvanias, roguelikes, soulslikes or some type of RPG

I just don’t like when a trailers art style is wildly different from what the game is. It’s off putting and it makes me want to play the trailer, not the game

I always have one question "Gaem fun dough?"

Yeah I was super disappointed as well. Hate pixel art.

Funny enough. I actually liked this trailer. Not much gameplay, but the little we got looked promising. Wishlisted it.

On the one hand, the retro pixel style is a refreshing change from the 4k graphic sludge of modern day. On the other, fuck the pixel art when I would have wanted it to look like the cutscene because that kind of retro is exactly my jam.

Ey, tenjetsu give the same vibe with Otherworld legend on mobile

people aren't mad that it's another pixel game, they're annoyed that 1. the trailer and gameplay don't match in the slightest, and 2. we have an over-abundance of indie pixel rogue-like games

BoI, EtG, Noita, Dead Cells, and now this game. These are just games that I can list from the top of my head that were roguelikes with a retro or pixelated aesthetic. Granted, they are good games - but I honestly don't blame people for being tired of it. Pixel or hand-drawn graphics combined with a metroidvania or roguelike is pretty much the easiest way to get recognized as an indie game. Seems like at the very least every few popular indie games are some combination of that, and there's only so much of that you can take before you start itching for something more unique. This is why a game like Don't Starve lasted so long and was so popular, as it had its own identity.

"I only play games if I can play as a spinning 3d rombus"

"Gamers are upset" What else is new?

BRO PLEASE BRO I SWEAR TO GOD THIS INDIE GAME IS AMAZING IT'S YET ANOTHER INDIE ROGUELIKE WITH PIXEL ART BRO IT'S SO ORIGINAL YOU HAVE TO PLAY IT BRO.

2:55 yo, HoloCure is still there!

I was honestly expecting something way ‘worse’ before seeing the gameplay based on the reactions you mentioned; the game looks really fun in all seriousness.

Midnight Fight Express is a hidden gem I found while browsing the depths of PS premium if you’re looking for a topdown martial arts hand-to-hand combat focused game that’s not a rogue like. Its graphics aren’t great but it’s stylized enough that i think it looks good without being a pixel art game

cyberpunk 2077 edgerunners effect: the animation and storyline is better than the game itself the way it revolves around is worthy.

I know people say they like the design of those types of games, but I completely feel that complaint. It isn't like it is easier to design or anything, they just like the design of it. Devolver Digital also released Cult of the Lamb which has beautiful art that is still connectable with the trailers, but this, I can't even really tell the emotion of the main character in the gameplay.

Of course people are upset, you can't just show like Cyberpunk Edgerunners for part of the trailer then immediately cut to fucking Crypt of the Necrodancer or whatever, the whiplash in artstyle is insane.

I think if the game uses an actual non-pixel art 2d sprite such as per say how Street of Rage 4 looks people wouldn't complain much. Or at the very least if the devs are going for pixel art, they could've made it more high fidelity in terms of style so the character design can be seen. Example of this would be per say Diablo 1 and 2? Those games are pixelated af but the actual character design can still be seen with decent amount of details. The main problem for many seems to be expectations, the trailer make the game looks like it have anime esque style but the gameplay is pixel art. Which is a pretty big transition from trailer to gameplay.

Can indie devs make a ps2 jrpg not pixelshit rougelike

I hear about the game for the first time, it doesn't look bad.

It's not about pixel art as a graphical style in comparison to pretty triple-A releases (there's lots of merit in pixel art that is commonly appreciated), but more the fact that indie games have began to spiral downwards in terms of creativity. With the success of certain indie games, creatively bankrupt indie developers who take inspiration from other indie games and widely recognized pop-culture see an incentive for churning out games that are practically identical from a gameplay perspective (one of the clearest examples of this phenomenon is Stardew Valley). Creativity has plummeted and tens of indie "2D pixel-art retro-inspired roguelike beat-em-slash-em-ups/deck builders" that play the same are released daily on Steam. There are cases of innovation and new offshoots of the genre being released, but those are few and far between, I feel. That and adding a slight twist with the formulaic "this game meets that game/this game, but..." doesn't contribute anything. These derivative indie releases enjoy their time in the limelight and fade from public consciousness as people move back to playing those that perfected the genre. The "not playing anything at all" as you put it is sort of a strange point. I'd wager that the people who commented under the trailer on Twitter have no doubt played roguelikes before and enjoyed them seeing the sheer popularity some releases have garnered. I fall into the camp who saw the trailer and shrugged: "I've basically seen and played this game before, so why should I bother?"; I played roguelikes, loved them dearly, got my fill, and don't really see any point in playing a rehash of something that is already overdone. It's perhaps for this oversaturation that I've fallen out with gaming as of late, or perhaps it's just a part of growing up and finding new thrilling things to embark on. I stopped following game shows - Fumito Ueda *probably* won't announce anything; Death Stranding 2 feels like a phoned in, strange offshoot of a series that had already reached a more than satisfying ending; triple-A games suck *yap* *yap* *blah* blah*; and a majority of the indie games fall into the "cozy", "roguelike", "PS1-inspired horror" or "Earthbound-inspired RPG about depression" categories. In spite of the cool stylized graphics or the smearing of pixels, it all feels *bland* from a design point of view. But I digress. I recently picked up Panzer Dragoon Saga again; what a wonderful little RPG! Super Lone Survivor is a really neat rerelease of an indie horror game that existed in an environment where there weren't that many indie horror games. I'm still trying to beat Ikaruga on normal difficulty. I'm hell-bent on getting through the D trilogy, or playing the Japanese-only "Real Sound: Kaze no Regret" with a printed translated script at my side. Braid also got a rerelease! I really ought to play Lifeline again. Or L.O.L: Lack of Love! Or Shenmue! Booting up Mappy always makes me smile. Variety gives spice to life, and overdone roguelikes take.

What the hell, the transition from anime to pixel is fire🔥🔥🔥

"another roguelike?" "pixel art is so boring" "outpost cleaning missions, great..." "we don't need yellow paint indicators..." Im tired of these so called """gamers""" who think that if a game doesn't do anything new it's automatically a bad game.

Oh my god, is another 2d wannabe 8 bit pixelated game roguelike/metroidvania/beatn'up/top down/isometric with generic color palette and a generic badbitch/orphan/sad/americanasian protagonist, with the minimalist design who don't follow any retro game style (16/32/64bits), with 12 frames pushed to 60frames animations, being talked about by a commentary youtuber with a drawing of himself as PFP and the most generic neutral/dogooder/talkwhatotherswanttohear opinion, really i never saw anything like that...

I think even if the game just used hd sprites instead of pixel sprites, the reception would have veen better. I think people in this case were just upest to see cool anime cutscenes but the gameplay not look anime at all.