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I shut it off and went to bed, they drew it out so much. Just popped over to the community site and read what I wanted and moved on with my day

The Brood Brothers are an upgrade sprue for the current Cadian infantry kit, not a new kit. This follows the same pattern as the other boxes. One new bespoke team, and one upgrade sprue.

For AoS Stormcast Eternal lore, Yandrasta isn't the only one who is loosing pieces of themselves as they die. That's all Stormcasts. It's a well known fact in the lore and there is a point where Stromcasts are too far gone to be sent back out into the field.

That's why you don't watch those things live. Wait for the stream to be done and skip all the stupid talk

That Chaos lord on foot is basically a remake of a very old Chaos Lord model that, when you look at him, also looks very chaos warriory, so that I'll let pass. But my god yeah, as you said, Necromunda and Horus Heresy basically got nothing burger reveals. Not to mention it feels very odd that Chaos Space Marines got this massive reveal with them mentioning all the detachments and stuff...meanwhile we don't know what the new non-index attachments are for Custodes and Orks which are set to come out before CSM.

The HOW always hits different

This reveal meeting could have been a reveal email

The Brood Bothers are a new upgrade sprue for the new Cadian infantry squad + older GSC guys (Patriarch is on a 50mm base)

In terms of 'Sigmar Lied', I was happy it wasn't Stormcast going Chaos or anything of that nature. The whole losing your soul bit has been on a few characters at this time including memory loss and other bits as shown in the anime as well.

"Pretty cool models, not gonna buy any of 'em" Lmao quote of the year with these editions

The poster said necromunda and horus heresy would get teasers which they did. No one lied lmao

That is my feeling when me and my friends watching the GW stream together. After the stream everybody turn and ask each other what did Sigmar lie exactly???

We might be joking about "bigger = more important" - but looking at those chaos lords, I cannot help but think "man, they're just the same size as chaos marines, they basically don't stand out at all" - nd i think this is true, you could easily put them into regular squads and "count as" for a regular marine or raptor them - and nobody would bat an eye. In a way, those Chaoslords are too GENERIC

im getting the Brood-brothers to help with Traitor guard conversions. swapping the cult icon to khorne icons for the Bloodpact and so on

Valkia is the one with a mouthy shield.

I think if people didn't like the format they will change it, which is good, it's good to try new things even if they don't work. They didn't lie about anything, though. They literally said Heresy and Necromunda would be teasers and announcing a bunch of stuff for AoS, including a new edition and the return of a faction, is still big news!

Theory: Sigmar Lied means that Sigmar is taking souls not promised to him. The Hammer and Bolter animation sort of touches on it. That is all.

Legend has it they’re STILLL talking about Warcry and Underworlds. Other than that, it was basically a Sunday preview.

The Veterans battleforce has 220 more points than the Talons, but all of the Talons units have bad points per dollar ratios. The only exception is the Warp Talons actually, which has better ppd than almost the entire Vets box's units

GW literally said on the banner you were talking about that 30k and Necromunda would only get teasers.

I didn't see the reveal, but I went to the community page after, and they have nice articles with pictures there.

The bees should inflict -1 to hit rolls, you know, because the would be "in my eyes, ahh, not the bees"

Just as an aside, they did make it clear that Necromunda and 30k were teasers and not reveals.

The Patriarch having double activations (meaning it can activate twice per turning point) was the natural progression of this Kill Team edition’s mechanics. I’m not CRAZY over ANOTHER guard team and ANOTHER scout team, but that patriarch at least saves the boring guardsmen.

The deamon lady with spear and shield from OG Fantasy you were mentioning was Valchia the bloody :)

I didn't mind all the talking, but they should've shown the nice pictures while the guys where talking

The reveal stream was pretty goofy but I liked the info they gave for fourth edition, also the trailer was incredible

"Horus Heresy will be another main game on the level of AoS and Warhammer!" Oh really? Also, where are new Raptors ?

"If you like Necromunda, 30k or Age of Sigmar, you kind of didn't get anything..." Bloodbowl, like last year, wasn't even on the poster! Why not show off one more star player for the Gnome team? Just anything!

I didn't mind the talking. I'd much rather hear from the game/model designers than the social media guys who just praise everything. Instead of just shooting talking heads, we should got lots of video of the models with them talking over it.

I certainly don't shy away from criticizing GW normally but I think you're actually off the mark with this one. First off Necromunda and HH were listed a teasers in their marketing, which to me was an indication we wouldn't see models and that's an improvement in my book. I'd like to see them continue to separate teasers from reveals in their marketing before these reveals just so we can manage expectations. Now why they counted AoS as a reveal...who knows, guess they felt announcing the new edition was something but I agree they should have had models for AoS at least. Regarding the pre recording, it was 3AM their time, I can't really blame them and if whatever the next show they do reveals on is local for them I expect we'll see a true live show again.

Lied? that's a bit of a stretch. They did show stuff off for the games. The necro and 30k was said it would be a teaser. There was a reveal cinematic trailer that was super rad to watch. Then they talked about each thing like they always do! I actually learned some things. Ya'll acting like GW owes us something. Like we are entitled to know allllll of the things. Just sit back and chill, enjoy what we are getting and be amazed when you finally see the thing you want to see. We will see the box contents in May. Go paint your models.

Necomunda and Horus Heresy were never promoted as "reveals", they were specifically labelled as "teases" on all the warhammer articles...

My son and I were sitting about 2/3 of the way back in the middle. We could barely see over people’s heads because the screens weren’t high enough, I could barely hear what they were saying because the acoustics were bad (and a few of those British lads talk way too fast), and I couldn’t tell what I was looking at during the model reveals because they either showed a huge group of them on screen at once so they were all tiny, OR they were panning across a diorama shot where the models AND the background were cast in 2-colored lighting so the models just blended into the background and you couldn’t tell what you were looking at. When we got back to the hotel room, we just looked at everything online. We will likely skip the “live” preview next year.

Im wondering why we get more chaos lord but no new chaos bikes, he'll even a lord on a bike.

Why are we all pretending that we got a full reveal of wh 40k 10th edition at adepticon last year? All they showed us last year was a trailer, a single terminator, and a single termagant. Why are we always just more mad about aos. Jay you were literally there in person lmao

I appreciated how much they talked about the rules after the AoS 4 reveal

to be fair, they did just say there was teasers for necromunda and horus heresy and not previews

They didnt lie about anything lol. Necromunda and HH were going to be teasers as it was mentioned. I dont know why anyone expected models. The AoS trailer could have come with one model reveal like the 40k 10th ed trailer did, but Im not pressed about not getting anything, that wasnt a guarantee either. Most reveals are an hour long actually so that doesnt need to be over exaggerated lol. Usually the big ones like Adepticon are an hour and half anyways. This one unfortunately just had more talking vs actual model reveals. Im sure theyll continue to keep tweaking this new style they are going for. I actually like they had the creators speak about the models and lore, I just want to see still white images of the models as they usually do. Aside from that I enjoyed the model reveals. However I feel they were missing a big centerpiece model like the Lion from last year. The Lady of Ruin was kind of that but the danwbringer centerpeices have been coming consistently so the awe factor wasnt there.

Yeah but those dwarfs were looking cleeeeeeean!

I guess I was fortunate to watch afterward as I enjoyed the videos. I listened to some of the interviews. I found the most useful info was earlier in the interview.

The two Chaos Marines have so many little details that they lose any easily identifiable silhouette. Ironically, they're TOO chaotic visually IMO

loved this way of doing reveals, cause I just went onto WarCom, so I just watched the 2 videos I wanted, and still had 20 min of videos to watch to really enjoy these specific reveals, but I would hate the stream watch complete reveal. I guess new formulas are always weird, and this one targets an audience maybe

To be fair, we didn't see the Leviathan box itself till warhammer fest. At Adepticon 2023 we had 10th edition reveal and two models (Termagaunt and Terminator). Also given history, practically everything in the trailer will appear in model form, just maybe not the quantity of rats 😂 Also Necromunda is rumoured to be going to hive Secundus which was supposedly having a Genestealer cult infestation. Regarding Adepticon as a whole, if I had gone in blind I would have been disappointed but because I knew the rumours before hand, I was able to set expectations at rock bottom.

I’m just excited for new skaven honestly

I'm pretty sure the bee lady's tentacles are thorny vines, or whatever you call that, like those which rose bushes have.

Old world was the best reveal, youngrim and plastic lord on shield was a very welcome sight!

Valkia the bloodied is the one ya mentioned when talking about the spear lady. She’s a Khorne hero and is still playable and purchasable

They had to make it like that, on the leviathan launch people used measurements to 3d print there own models before release. A few bad apples spoil it and all that

2:16 It was pan cam overload..! And also no new orks 😢

If you are working on your Genestealer Cults then wait for Necromunda: Secundus because Secundus fell to the Genestealer Cults in the lore. I think we could be looking at a new box set GC vs ? Hopefully they aren't going to go the way of Kill Team and use this as a back door to new 40k releases.

age of sigmar got those chaos guys with the last book before the refresh and they did have on the poster TEASERS for necromunda and Horus Heresy

The Brethren of the bolt are actually zealots of sigmar. So like an interesting take on Flagellants that let themselves be struck by sigmars lightning. Cities of Sigmar as a whole is a much more soulseborne style army if you look at their minis.

This "how" signifies the start of Jay into a full fledged corvid. The new Warcry idea of a sample size of models from a faction is great. Underworlds did this at the start, but warbands have become way too expensive.

The poster said Horus Heresy and Necromunda was a teaser not a preview...

Pretty sure the brood brothers kill team is just an upgrade spruce with guardsman sprue

Hey did you go near the kill team area at adepticon? You would have been right on top of the ball pit from dashcon

They consistently make great products, fantastic lore, and a piss-poor job of managing expectations.

never been to adepticon, found out i live 45 mins away, going next year for sure. too busy painting this weekend 👍

Necromunda reveal was to a certain unarmed hive city like the books from campaign didn't already say succundus

The master blaster/ muppet man is kinda weird, he makes me think of a dark ages mad max of muppets show. The Necromunda trail was a complete tease, the 30k seemed more like a get excited for the preview. The sigmar trailer was cool, but I thought GW was going to do like chaos stormcasts, they kinda hinted at that in the black talon show. Idk!! Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!

I'm growing more and more disenchanted with every flying or jumping model/hq having more or less the same weird mid jump/flight poses.

I had really hoped for something for Adepta Sororitas to go with the upcoming codex. Perhaps when that comes.

4:02 What do you mean you built the kit?

The Chaos Lord with Jump Pack looks like he's dancing

Idea: Convert the chaos calvary form AoS into 40k bikers

i haven't stayed up for the last several reveals that have been run late. and I haven't regretted any of those decisions.

Man, that reveal stream just screamed “We’ve got money to burn” to me.

I feel like I've been watching some very different preview shows in the past.... Usually an hour long with 10 minutes of corporate waffle between reveals. I just thought that was the norm. I still remember what I believe was a Warhammer Day preview in either 2022/2023 where they dragged out the intro for a good 20 minutes before the first reveal. That was extremely painful to sit through. I believe this particular show was largely hurt by the accidental release of the Darkoath box trailer back during the Warhammer World Anniversary reveals.

On adepticon the crowd got quite excited for the TOW dwarves and skavens

I think your thinking of Valkia the Bloody? In regards to the Chaos-dragon riding spear lady

By what you say, Bandai had a much better reveal in terms of both Gundam kits and 30 Minutes Missions' Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon model reveals.

The first time I heard the barest bit of lore that the Stormcast came back a little 'off' after each resurrection, I knew the road to chaos Sigmarines was paved.

Yeah I'm so mad we had TWO little trailers seemingly hinting at Skaven and then all that teasing is just for a trailer. They were just teasing the tease!!!

Back in the early 2000's they did it with WH40k. My whole army became obsolete overnight and friends and a few influencers dropped the game. But if you are 20 or younger you might have never heard about it. So they are playing like Disney with Star Wars with their "Legends" lol

"Too many fake words in a row". In Star Trek we used to call that Treknobabble. Need to come up with a similar word for GW.

I liked the chat apart from Phil Kelly repeating himself and the transition guy. They just need to chat over clear still shots of the minis, or even better a slow 360 like the ones from the store.

Three games, including the game the entire show was built around, basically got announcements for announcements. I'm cool with a new edition of AoS, I just wish there was something to actually look at.

@11:16 Valkia? The Khorne Lady with the Slanesh head shield?

correction. there was one 40k mini reveal, and an optional backpack attachment

I really liked the new format. It was my favorite reveal since a long time.

I was surprised honestly. I don't know much about AoS but when I say "Sigmar Lied" I was expecting AoS to get all heresy flavored and introduce Chaos Stormast to mirror Chaos Space Marines.

They did themselves no favours by hyping it so much when they must have known they had so little!

It would be nice to see GW bring out some models for the steel legion. They could do a nice kit for kill team at the very least

those chaos marines where the most chaos marines in a long time

The chaos lady with the spear is valkia the bloody

Sigmar lied with the skaven might mean that they intend to have sigmar having kept up the no skaven Don't exist, and now people know they exist

i turned the pirate ogre into an ogryn commissar

My personal problem with Ossiarch Bonereapers is i always think they make there models 50/50. 50% of each model i love and it makes me want to start an army. The other 50% of each model is just wrong and should not have been done.

I consider the huge animation and "announcement" as a reveal!

Good to know sleeping through the reveals at Adepitcon was a good use of my sleep, albeit fun chat is fun.

As a chaos player since 4th edition I am Underwhelmed. It’s great for new players but fans of the faction probably will have all of that.

Patriarch gets two activations in one round. It's sick.

I got an email that said "Something for everybody" and I didn't see anything for the Sisters so that was deemed a lie.

I was really holding out for some new skaven releases, preferably some new rat ogre sculpts

From a chaos space Marine player, I am swimming in those exact models of terminators and marines, the box is kinda lame. And I already have a bunch of Lords do I really need more Lords

I was so excited about aos stuff, and then they said that they are simplifying and rewriting it and that was super disappointing to hear.

Are the knee joints for the the centaur back legs, backward? I think that adds to the model looking so weird

Jay: This year I'm focusing on my death guard and drukhari Also Jay: So I've been working ln my gsc... 😭