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Games Workshop TRIPPLES DOWN... Skaventide FLOPPED time to MOVE ON!!! Warhammer 40k  

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Skaventide is here, the new edition of Age of Sigmar 4.0, has arrived, move on Games Workshop... the Skaventide box and new edition of Age of Sigmar has Flopped, sales are far below GW production and expectations, but GW is continuing to slow roll other non-sigmar releases, in a desperate attempt to soak up some more sales... Its not happening GW, it flopped, time to move on, and give the people what they want: Necromunda, Warhammer 40k, Old World Dwarves, Warcry... anything but more boring books & Reprints!!! #New40k #NewAoS #BigSig #TabletopBROs #WarHammerMan #WarHammerManStudios
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@johnhildenbrand2642
@johnhildenbrand2642 Месяц назад
So what I'm hearing, is that my golden opportunity to get into Skaven has just gone platinum, I am willing to bet that a metric butt ton of clan rats etc are going to end up real cheap before it's over...I'm thinking Christmas came early lads
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya, 100%. this is looking like Dominion all over again! except this time GW will take the L, not FLGs. get ready for the dealz boys!
@johnhildenbrand2642
@johnhildenbrand2642 Месяц назад
@WarHammerMan You figure it's going to take one or two bottles of bourbon to get them to three-peat with Gitz, Gravelords, IDK or Seraphon? 🤣😂
@BrandonGiordano
@BrandonGiordano Месяц назад
Cheap rats - yes, yes!
@cloraformsgood5340
@cloraformsgood5340 Месяц назад
I just bought a load off and auction site , that has shed loads still. I got 20 clan rats for about 5.50, claw lord 7.50, 10 X stormcaste 10.0 and another skaven character. I have a feeling this company is going to be selling skaventide units for a long time.
@lucianknowles336
@lucianknowles336 Месяц назад
@@cloraformsgood5340 by it now is only 14.99 for 20
@HomeSliceOfWhiteBread
@HomeSliceOfWhiteBread Месяц назад
The problem with Skaventide is the Stormcast. The Skaven half is going for ~130 on ebay where the stormboys are going for ~80. If they had done any other faction, I imagine it would have sold great.
@mayofrench5170
@mayofrench5170 Месяц назад
My FLGS owner told me GW tried to get him to order more Skaventide. He wisely took pre-orders and only added a few boxes for the shelves. If the new mnini release schedule for 40K were a little slower, I would consider AOS. My wallet can't handle both lines of minis.
@silencia08
@silencia08 Месяц назад
What’s an FLGS
@DooDooDisco
@DooDooDisco Месяц назад
​@@silencia08friendly local game store
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
yep GW reps are bombarding stores with Desperate Requests to up their numbers.... funny how the allocations are so small when the item is under-produced, so GW can sell straight to customers via the web-store, but when they are over-produced, GW has to beg stores to buy more, or get stuck with warehouses full of stock! i expect them to go to the liquidators in a month or two, just like Dominion, Necromunda Ash Wastes, etc
@subversive1219
@subversive1219 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan This is what am hoping =D
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
@@subversive1219 well its happening as we speak!
@lordnovas
@lordnovas Месяц назад
GW kind of needed to go all out for the Skaventide launch but that box set was not the way.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya i think its a great box, but between the price increases, slowing global economy, and just lack of popularity with Skaven & Stormcast, GW is in over its head. Its crazy they can so massively over produce something people dont really want, but under produce all the stuff we do. part of why this happened is because of Dominion. GW falsely inflated its sales, by tricking Retailers, so had an unrealistic expectation of demand this go around. now they are going to pay the price, instead of FLGs
@displeasedsociopath5939
@displeasedsociopath5939 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan Is it possible gutting the 2nd edtion stormcast eternals from the line has something to do with why stormcast have lost some popularity?
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 Месяц назад
So, I got Dominion for about $120 a year or so ago. I’m definitely taking a wait and see approach on Skaventide. Honestly, not sure I want anything out of the box except for the books and cards. Skaven are mildly interesting, but only for The Old World, really. And they’re not technically legal in TOW, and they’re just awful with the legacy rules. Skaven vs Cities of Sigmar would have been more interesting. I just don’t feature Stormcasts at all.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
i like the box, the models are great, but its clear from the community, that skaven and stormcast are not what people wanted. GW also massively over produced, based on Dominion sales, which were massively inflated, because they tricked FLGs into buying up all the stock. which is good for customers, because we all got amazing deals on dominon, when stores were forced to liquidate their inventory, often at a loss. this is what we are likely to see again, but this time GW will be taking the L!
@channelsofash
@channelsofash Месяц назад
I picked it up because I thought the bonus stuff was neat. But yea for the people that paint instead of play I could see why you wouldn't be in a hurry when you've already likely got a large pile of shame. I'm not even going to have my new Talisman figures done by the time my Skaventide set arrives.
@ComradePenguinski
@ComradePenguinski Месяц назад
I actually want the Skaventide box, but GWs prices are just too stupidly high.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
well the way its looking, these will be on amazon liquidators in a month or two, for half the price!
@carysage
@carysage Месяц назад
Ahriman has the Infinity Gauntlet?
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
lol wouldnt surprise me, plot twist, GW steals someone else's IP, slightly changes it... Gauntlet of Infinity... its totally different!
@X33dbv
@X33dbv Месяц назад
I think the players with a lot of SCE are pissed about the many outdated Miniatures.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya its a weird way to look at it, but i dont think you're wrong. I was happy to get a new range refresh for stormcast, but the way GW marketed it, Pissed off existing stormcast fans/customers. tricking people into thinking their models are useless, only to later replace them with nice new sculpts. this is not the way
@X33dbv
@X33dbv Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan I ordered the new box anyway, because I really like the new sculpts etc. I’m not playing SCE right now, but I have a good amount of them 😅 may be I try them with spearhead.
@TheNerdsFromHell
@TheNerdsFromHell 6 дней назад
If it flopped why is everything out of stock for skaven? If they refresh some of the old models and weapons teams it would sell like hotcakes. But that's too fucking simple. I've been trying for a year to get a warp lightning cannon without paying twice MSRP
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan 6 дней назад
let me explain simple things to you, in a simple way. skaventide was massively over-produced, which is why MSRP is $265, and only 2 months after release its selling for less than $200. all of the skaven stuff is "sold out on the web-store" because its either being replaced with new models after 20 years of nobody buying it, or its being repackaged into new boxes, and will come back with a price increase. very simple, very rational, based on facts. cheers.
@TheNerdsFromHell
@TheNerdsFromHell 5 дней назад
@@WarHammerMan Most stuff has been out of stock since last year..... and I've seen kits for things like doom flayers going at 500% msrp
@elfatmano
@elfatmano Месяц назад
meh I hope every big box release of GW is like this instead of the usual 5 boxes they make.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
it wont be. the opposite will happen. they will make less, because this flopped, now it will get even harder to get what we want. GW is bad at business, and doesnt actually use data to make decisions. but it will be nice to pick up skaventide at 50% off in a month or two
@elfatmano
@elfatmano Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan true thats likely the outcome of not selling out the minute it comes live, but I just hope someday they will just do a pre-orders and every one who wants it can buy it even if it takes 6 months to get it like they did whit indomitus but unfortunately that will never happen again.
@steves9305
@steves9305 Месяц назад
I'm skipping the new Age of Sigmar box. Totally vibing with the new Necromunda box, however. Meanwhile, I'm busy with painting those fresh Dungeon Saga Origins models. The harsh reality here is that Games Workshop just tries to drain our wallets!
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya lots of people choosing alternative games/companies/3d printing. looks like you'll have plenty of time to pick up skaventide, when its on sale for 50% off from the liquidators !
@sunidaze
@sunidaze Месяц назад
I got a box, but now I wish that I had waited, lol. If the prices go down, I will get a second box and sell the Stormcast side. I may come out ahead.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
mine came today! i cannot wait to dig in!!! but if the prices drop later, i'll def get another one... maybe 2 haha
@lucaspate2527
@lucaspate2527 Месяц назад
Definitely picked up Dominion for less than $100…… I’ll wait Skaventide out, in exactly the same way. 👌🏻
@sigmatus303
@sigmatus303 Месяц назад
Where are the Dawi
@RobotCrafter1
@RobotCrafter1 Месяц назад
Yes! More dwarfs!
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya big miss not putting up something else people have been patiently waiting for... instead its 1 new book, and some reprints... WoW
@sigmatus303
@sigmatus303 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan yeah piss poor effort from the old G Dubs there
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
@@sigmatus303 ya they have completely lost touch with their customers, and have no idea what we want, and will buy. i expect they are going to start paying the price very soon
@sigmatus303
@sigmatus303 Месяц назад
@WarHammerMan as much as i like plastic i may have to turn to my old trusty rusty 3d printer
@grizzler885
@grizzler885 Месяц назад
Black Library Bananas ?
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
banana bonanza
@ed8869
@ed8869 Месяц назад
Another insightful commentary by War Hammer Man - he has the best pulse of what is going on weekly / daily in GW!
@ShadowMage
@ShadowMage Месяц назад
While I absolutely love the skaven, I don't feel that the skaventide box is worth it. After all, why would I spend that much on a box with both the skaven and stormcasts when I just want the skaven?
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 Месяц назад
Thats damn good news. I may get that box a cpl yrs from now, if its like the dominion box and 100 bucks. The dominion box was a flop too and now super cheap.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya the best part about GW relying on FOMO marketing, and under producing, is when they over produce, everything goes to the liquidators, and thats when we get the Great Deals!
@silencia08
@silencia08 Месяц назад
3:50 what is an FLG?
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
its what we call retailers. Friendly Local Game Store = FLGs
@silencia08
@silencia08 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan ahh
@sir_quirkus7206
@sir_quirkus7206 Месяц назад
I always found it strange this has become a widely used acronym among the gaming community. LGS FLGS
@WeOnlyEatSoup
@WeOnlyEatSoup Месяц назад
Mike Brooks is a questionable author from some of the politics I've heard he's tried to slip into his work.
@reavern
@reavern Месяц назад
I’ve been waiting for AoS 4e to get into Sigmar and the Skaventibe box is a great deal, which is why I’ve pre-ordered it. IF Skaventide doesn’t sell and the price drops later, I might buy a second box to expand my starter armies. I’ve already bought the Warhorde of Eternus box as my Slaves to Darkness starter army, so I’ll have three ~1000 point factions for my friends and I to learn the game with, without sinking too much $$$ into it. The main reason I’m interested in AoS is that the wargaming channels I watch said that game is very refined, being both accessible to new players with deep mechanics to hone, making it more fun to play than WH40K - it’s kinda the OPPOSITE of Horus Heresy. That’s why I’m taking the chance on Skaventide. If I don’t like it or just lose interest after a while, NBD.
@ReaperoftheWar
@ReaperoftheWar Месяц назад
As a skaven player who has an obsession with clan rats this is nothing but a success. Ig I could yoink some stormcast too. Could use em in diorama with my skaven.
@ryanmalady376
@ryanmalady376 Месяц назад
The skaven side of the started box looks amazing, but ill wait until i can buy those models separately
@HAL9000nd
@HAL9000nd Месяц назад
I’m just waiting, wanted to pick AoS and Necromunda at the same time
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya who knows when necromunda is going to actually release. at this point, its not on the pre order list, so even if it is next week, with the 2 week pre-order window, its minimum 3 weeks away. GW strings us along for months, by the time something releases, the initial excitement has faded. bad business IMO
@ReaperoftheWar
@ReaperoftheWar Месяц назад
The rats always get the cheese......heheheheheh
@TheBrimfire
@TheBrimfire 27 дней назад
cant wait to hear what tokenism characters mike brooks sneaks in this time -.-
@bryanvestal3923
@bryanvestal3923 Месяц назад
I have to wonder as it has flopped this bad. What does this mean for AOS as a whole. With prices its hard to justify 2 games
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
sigmar will be more popular than before, but not going to see a massive surge in popularity. in all reality, when the boxes are massively discounted from liquidators, its likely more people buy them, so it could be a net positive for popularity of the game, at the cost of GWs profits... so for customers/fans its win/win !
@3Xero3
@3Xero3 Месяц назад
I think AoS has become more popular, but still isn't at 40k numbers. I think the Spearhead mode will help bring in some new players, but many wallets are already tapped out trying to keep up with 40k and KT releases.
@bryanvestal3923
@bryanvestal3923 Месяц назад
@@3Xero3 I hope so. I prefer AOS to 40k.
@bryanvestal3923
@bryanvestal3923 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan I hope you are right.
@chewieknievel8439
@chewieknievel8439 Месяц назад
AOS…😂 LONG LIVE THE OLD WORLD! The Old World is going to overtake AOS after a few more releases. Fantasy should have never been End Time’d, and we all know it.
@reno239
@reno239 Месяц назад
This guy knows what’s up! Gwan!
@reno239
@reno239 Месяц назад
Funny how the old world box and following models sod out nearly instantly at the pre-order but aos preorders are still up…makes you think mmm?
@Archon762
@Archon762 Месяц назад
Funny you mention FLGs, mine dropped GW outright recently. Not that GW is getting the hint
@raistlarn
@raistlarn Месяц назад
I'm going to wait until its on sale...I gotta buy a new tv first, finish collecting for my Drukhari army and finish the massive pile of shame I have in my room.
@jizzwizzard123
@jizzwizzard123 Месяц назад
Flop based on what?
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
sales, math, objective reality... GW is literally calling every retailer begging them to buy more copies... this is what happens when your product is over produced, and sales are massively underwhelming.
@bryanh28
@bryanh28 Месяц назад
He cant reveal his sources lol. But its been a week and it's still available everywhere.
@GamingGuardians
@GamingGuardians Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan GW tried to send my FLGS 40 boxes. They said NOPE.
@silencia08
@silencia08 Месяц назад
@@GamingGuardianswhat’s an FLGS
@chakradarrat8832
@chakradarrat8832 Месяц назад
@@WarHammerMan i wouldn't say FLOPPED. maybe just underperformed. like if sould out is 10/10. this is like a 7-8 from what i've seen.
@Ireland609
@Ireland609 Месяц назад
Ahriman, Ahriman, Ahriman!!!! Been so hyped for this book
@cloraformsgood5340
@cloraformsgood5340 Месяц назад
Well i am enjoying buying the bargain skaventide units from a well known auction site that sells on a well known auction site lol
@stevenprimrose8677
@stevenprimrose8677 Месяц назад
I was haven a great day and thought necromunda secundus be in pre order today but we get books not how I want to end today all well I hope necromonday is still on
@nosbigdamus9665
@nosbigdamus9665 Месяц назад
Why by games workshop products books anymore as they change everything we read, By the way i own 150 but no more sorry.
@Ninja6485
@Ninja6485 Месяц назад
I didn't buy it, mostly because I don't really want to collect either of the armies.
@wakkru
@wakkru Месяц назад
Instead of being happy that GW is taking their Foot off the gas and not releasing new Stuff every Week, it's immediately "Disappointing", which is exactly what I wrote a few Videos ago: Complain that GW can't keep up with Reproduction but be sad if new Minis aren't announced every Week.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
my dude. people who have zero interest in sigmar, have been bombarded by it for months now. its been 1 month of no new releases, at minimum for models from 40k, necromunda, old world, warcry etc. people just want some new stuff, that has been announced to go up on pre order. when you cultivate a community of people expecting regular releases, and then dont live up to it, expect people to point that out. not sure why you got triggered by this video, but people are bored of sigmar already, and it isnt even out yet
@kenupton4084
@kenupton4084 Месяц назад
​​@@WarHammerManfor real. Personally, I find AoS so boring my eyes just glaze over when anyone starts babbling about it "Blah blah blah so awesome blah blah, better than 40k blah blah" "Does it still have the double turn?' "Well yeah, it's an intrin-" "Then it's still a shit game."
@mogwaiman6048
@mogwaiman6048 Месяц назад
​​@@kenupton4084 it is a better game than 40k. You don't just auto lose because of a double turn. Plenty of people lose 40k games because they didn't go first.
@d-rex7043
@d-rex7043 Месяц назад
If you've been catching up with 2 seasons of kill team, grabbing GSC before they went oop, buying bulk boxes of legions imperialis and getting your rogue traders and ordo xenos in order, preparing for the upcoming big release (like a good DW player should) then you would know that this is a long overdue and welcome break for a couple of weeks...
@d-rex7043
@d-rex7043 Месяц назад
And $450aud is not exactly 'dip your toe' prices, when you wouldn't choose to collect stormcast or skaven!
@cjschmeeds
@cjschmeeds Месяц назад
Amazing how out of touch GW has become with the market for most of their products outside of 40k.
@Benandkyoko
@Benandkyoko Месяц назад
Angry guy
@mikehunt1924
@mikehunt1924 Месяц назад
They tried to get my FLG to order almost double the Skaventide sets they wanted and when they said no the rep threatened them with removing support for future big releases. Really scummy and pathetic.
@WarHammerMan
@WarHammerMan Месяц назад
ya they basically strong arm the retailers. Mafia tactics with veiled threats to get what they want. GW is super shady! they know Skaventide was massively over-produced, and need to flex on Mom & Pops retailers, or take the L!
@jason-sp8nb
@jason-sp8nb Месяц назад
I get the lot😂
@thomasshaw61
@thomasshaw61 Месяц назад
Unfortunitly,I amonmysummerbreak,soIwillhavetowait untilIgobacktowork!I WILLBEGETTINGACOUPLEOFBOXES!
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