Gang's Reaction on kicking Strauss out | Red Dead Redemption 2 

Arthur had enough of all the shit, I felt sorry for Strauss though when Charles said he was tortured to death and he didn't talk

Micah talking about "unnecessary dramas" like he didn't kill half a town and a man and his wife for his two guns

Micah: strauss made us rich, black lung Arthur: strauss made me black lung,rat

“Strauss made us rich!” *$4.27 added to camp funds*

It’s sad to see how depressing, strained, and toxic everyone in the camp was

Nobody talks about it, but not having Hosea’s presence in the camp is actually huge! He put Micah and Bill in their place many times at the previous camps and he would never let Micah bring in those 2 scumbags Cleet & Joe... If Hosea didn’t die I think the gang may have made it

When Arthur got TB he saw life differently. That's why he couldn't kill people anymore. Only the bad. I love this Game

Strauss was one of the reasons of Arthur's tuberculosis. That is sad.

Even though I don't like Strauss method of collecting money and indirectly causing Arthur to become infected with TBC, He's still loyal to the end.

When Micah was going to antagonize me about kicking out Strauss, I press the Not Now button. That shut him up.

Reverend is underrated, his character development is excellent.

I’m glad that Sadie, Charles and John is still with Arthur at least.

Seriously... I felt really awful kicking Strauss out. Loyal to the end. Strauss for all his fault, too had emotions and trully thought Arthur was his friend. He never said a word to the Pinkertons; and the gang will never know how much he stood loyal even to Arthur.

I like how the money lands in a perfect stack

What I like about Charles was that he didn't side with Arthur because of blind loyalty he sided with Arthur because he saw Dutch going crazy and knew Arthur had everyone else's best interest in mind and knew Arthur was doing the right thing

Tilly actually sounds scared of being kicked out. I feel bad for her but hey at least she married a nice rich guy and had a child

The parallel between Swanson’s arc and Karen’s decline is striking in this scene.

I never liked how Strauss made money, praying on those who couldn’t pay. And maybe people in the gang didn’t like him but he wasn’t inherently evil or bad. His methods were bad but he wasn’t as a person, he was tortured in custody and died making sure he never spoke a word about the gang to help those who survived. Hate-able but respectable to a point

Always bothered me that Micah starts complaining about you kicking Strauss out, but was literally berating Strauss earlier in the game and saying what he did was low, dirty and pathetic. For all the praise Arthur gets as a character, Rockstar did one hell of a job making Micah such a great antagonist as well.

Arthur: "Don't give me that look." Abigail: *isn't even facing him* ... Arthur: "I did what had to be done." T H U M P

I always think this is really sad because Strauss genuinely considers him and Arthur friends and treats him with such a high level of respect at all times. On top of that he is one of the loyalist members of the gang not out of loyalty to Dutch but just to the gang itself providing a lot of money and feeding it many times. Even after he is kicked out he refuses to talk while being tortured to death. Out of all of Arthur's decisions this is the one i disagree with the most

The worst thing is Javier and Bill realized later that Arthur was *right* and ditched Dutch. Can you imagine how terrible they felt in the years that followed?

I think at this period of Arthur’s life he was becoming tired of the shit and pain that was happening around him, he lived in a different time in the west and had a strange noble sense of Outlaw honor not to pray on the weak As we know now, not long after Arthur passed, I think he just wanted to try and bring some goodness back into his world before he went, you saw the change when he spoke with the nun at Emerald Station, he said he was afraid to die, This was the real turning point on his journey

"You're unfortunate and I don't like helping you". Lol... gotta love Arthur's quips and comebacks

Whenever something bad happens within the gang or something happened to someone, I love that Arthur keeps it as innocent as possible for Jack when Jack asks.

2:21 when Arthur bumped into Abigal, it sounded like one of em was made of wood.

It's so sad to see Javier who was a friend with Arthur now treating him like a traitor

Jack: Is Mr. Strauss gone? Arthur: Yes, he had to leave. Sorry.

I noticed that the ones still loyal to Dutch still stay close, literally. Javier, Bill, Micah, Cleet, Joe, Pearson. They all stay close to Dutch who is near a cave. They’re descending in darkness Then you have John,Karen,Tilly,Grimshaw, Jack,Abigail,Charles,Sadie, Uncle All of them are away from the Cave. Meaning they still see the light above them and are still human. I symbolize too much

I was so pissed at this part! Arthur and even Dutch express their dislike for Strauss' methods early on but no one can deny the fact that the entire camp benefitted from them. Strauss genuinely thought of the gang as his family and he was just doing his part. True that Arthur got sick after collecting one of his debts and he probably realized that at some point, in fact he even mentions it in conversation, so he probably blamed Strauss for his own illness, leading to this. What's even worse is that just before this you can overhear Strauss talking to Grimshaw and he says he would have absolutely nothing without the gang and he is genuinely upset that the gang is slowly falling apart. What's even worse still is that Arthur sends him off in to Roanoke Ridge of all places!

Nobody: Everyone at the camp: Omg Arthur your going to freeze in that

I feel like Strauss wouldn't have sided with Arthur or Dutch at the end, but rather have been the voice of reason to prevent the gang from finally falling apart.

I love how Arthur kicks him out but nobody says anything at the moment, like they don't have the guts to face Arthur even if he is sick

I have a whole level of respect for Strauss when I learned he was captured and tortured to death, and he still did not rat them out.

"I thought you liked to help the unfortunate" "You're unfortunate and I don't like helping you" There's something in this quote that is just good for no special reason

Arthur may have black lungs, but Micah's heart and soul are blacker than Arthur's lungs could ever be. Okay, that sounded better in my head.

Strauss was one of the things where you see the gang turn on its old ideals. Dutch's gang originally wanted to steal from the rich and give it to those who need it. Dutch actually scolded Arthur for robbing s poor person. Strauss joining was a turning point of being less about that and more about personal gain for Dutch.

Damn I forgot how depressed this chapter is

2:21 Damn Abigail pushy 🤣

Bruh if Arthur only brought Strauss to a train station or something, he could’ve gotten away. Arthur just threw him out into the wild Roanoke Ridge, with Pinkertons and Murfree’s everywhere.

It infuriates me how Micah was able to slither his way into Arthur's position within the gang. And even more so the way that he talks down to Arthur throughout Chapter 6, as if he were even half the man that Arthur is.

Micha: "I thought you liked helping the weak and unfortunate" Arthur: "You're unfortunate and I don't like helping you"

RIP Arthur Morgan and John Marston. They may have been outlaws, but they were also somehow the most humane and caring people

Actually one of the best Arthur's choice

1:09 Strauss:I'm... Arthur:Leaving 😂😂😂😂

Arthur : do u have my back Charles : always

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I did it at night so he was in his pyjamas

I just realized dutch never asks Author if he's ok. The whole camp does at some point but Dutch dont.

"Unneccessary *sniff sniff* DrahMahs" They really did a good job of making everything that comes out of Micah's mouth sound so slimey and insincere

I see they went with the High Honor version of this scene. (FYI: For those who may not know, the dialogue for this scene is different depending on if you have High Honor or Low Honor. For example, if you have High Honor, Strauss says "I was your friend." but with Low Honor, he says "I was your partner." among a few other line changes.)

He doesn't even go "well, i'll see you later", even his conversation endings are sad.

Strauss remained loyal to the gang until the end. In the epilogue, during the mission where you find Charles in Saint Denis, he mentions how the pinkertons captured Strauss and wanted him to talk, but Strauss remained loyal, never said a word and died in custody

120 hours of gameplay and i still hold it in chapter 4. can't endure the Hosea's death scene.

0:40 My parents after I finish college

I did not like Mr. Strauss in a what if scenario what if Mr. Thomas downs did not get tuberculosis how would this affect the entire red dead series because I think that either Arthur would kill him spare him like the original timeline or something else and I think that the story would be the same until chapter 6

It kinda made me feel bad when Charles told John that When Strauss was kicked out, He was captured by the Pinkertons and he never told them anything or ever sold them out and got killed in custody despite how arthur just straight up kicked him out . Now thats loyalty

Micah: Stop making more trouble for us. Funny you would say that

At least he wasn't a snake when he got caught by the Pinkertons.

2:21 *Bumps* Abigail sure is strong and one tough cookie LMAOO

Although Strauss wasn't a good man (as wasn't anyone in the gang) but he died being loyal to the gang after he got captured by Pinkertons.

I really like the nuance in how it's slightly implied that in a way Arthur was doing it for Strauss' own good. I do think Arthur did believe what he said and did have issues with Strauss' debtor business but I think it was also his way of saving him from having to go through the inevitable things that were to come.

This is just uncomfortable to watch, the gang was so sad at the end looking back on how they were in the beginning of the game

I feel like Arthur should've kicked out Strauss back in colter

"You're unfortunate, and I don't care about helpin' ou!" Arthur's wit and comebacks are so quick and hilarious. Reminds me a lot of my late grandfather's "mean" sense of humor that was pretty similar. It's such a gift to have.

Usury is one of the most evil and vile acts one can do, never forget that.

Sadie and Charles remained friends with aurther till the very end it’s nice to see that he had people who he could really trust

Notice how some members switched their colors red (bad karma) sided with Micah & the ones in blue (good karma) sides with Author

5:11 i thought he was gonna be one of the ones that agrees with Arthur.

Pinkertons: Strauss, let's talk. Strauss: I'll tell you NOTHING. Pinkertons: Micah, let's talk. Micah: I'LLTELLYOUEVERYTHINGYOUWANNAKNOW!

I never looked at it as Arthur was doing Strauss a favour before now.

Finally, someone who dresses Arthur properly

everyone was alive Housea, Charles, Sadie, Uncle, Lenny, Sean, Grimshaw, Kirean and Pearson would of all been on Arthur's side...that last stand off would been 6 vs 10 and Dutch's side would lose...Dramatically Dutch, Micah, Bill, Javier, Joe and Cleet vs the names stated before...it's obvious who takes the money and Survives in this alternate universe.

At beaver hollow everything just seemed so depressing. I remember on my first play through I got sad when I saw what the gang had come to, no singing, no activities and everyone was just depressed and hopeless. God I love this game and I wish everyday that I could replay through it without knowing what happened.

I hate how for the entire game Micah is saying they need to kick out a few people and then antagonizes Arthur for doing that.

i sped through that chapter of the game and never realized how much javier was upset about Arthur not being on Dutchs side, i think he still likes arthur when he decides not to aim a gun at him on the final mission

*Arthur threatens he might kick out Bill next* *One second later* Arthur: “Okay, guess I’ll be seeing you, then.” Bill: “Understandable, have a nice day.”

People don't put enough blame on Dutch for letting Strauss go against everything they stand for

I love how you followed Micah to see if you antagonise him afterwards

“You and me we ain’t decent, but those folk, they was” 💯

Strauss honestly is one of the most underrated camp members. Same with Karen and Tilly. He get's so much unnecessary hate I'm my opinion. It wasn't even his fault for Arthur getting tuberculosis. Plus if it wasn't for Strauss every camp member who survived would probably still be on the run if he even said a word.

I wish that Arthur had ended his relationship with Strauss in a more positive way. Sure Strauss did some scummy things, however objectively speaking he was the one who inflicted the least amount of suffering on his victims -> the other members of the gang murdered plenty of folks, Strauss's victims were "just" exploited, but they lived and had an opportunity to go on with their life...Sean is loved by everyone (including me), but wow he cut some poor farm-hand's throat in one mission (when you burn down the Grey's tobacco crop), even though the guy was just some harmless schmuck trying to earn a living. That was way worse than anything Strauss ever did. Strauss M.O. was to seek out desperate people lend them money which helped them on the short term and then demand the money back + interest, so that they had to do desperate things in order to be able to pay him back, which left them in an even worse situation than they were in before they met him. A horrible thing to do, but in my book way less bad than shooing some guy who is just trying to earn a living by working as a guard on a train or a stagecoach. Strauss' victims at least lived (okay Thomas Dowd and Arthur Londonderry did not, but those men died due to medical conditions that Strauss did not give them - so they would almost certain have died just the same, even if they had never met Strauss; though in all fairness one can argue that, if it had not been for the debt they owed to Strauss, Dowd and Londonderry would probably have worked less hard [since they were not under the pressure to make a lot of money quickly to pay back their debt to Strauss], but would instead have rested more, so that their health would as a consequence perhaps have deteriorated less quickly and they would have lived longer, or perhaps they would even have recovered [though that is unlikely considering the nature of their ailments and the state of medicine at the time]...But, regardless, I believe my main point, that Strauss's deeds were less devastating on his victims than the other gang members', still is accurate). .... So Arthur is a bit of a hypocrite, when he excoriates Strauss for being ruthless. Except for the Reverend and Pearson I've seen all the men of the gang - even Uncle (who cut a farmer's throat, after I tied him up, in the cattle stealing mission!) - do worse things than Strauss. So as I said, I would have liked to see Arthur finding a more positive way to deal with Strauss, when the gang fell apart. Perhaps he could even have used him to save some of the other gang members from doom. E.g. he could have grabbed Strauss by the shoulders and demanded from him to do something noble and selfless for once in his life to make up for his past sins, and, to redeem himself, take some of he defenseless members of the gang out of the danger zone, that is the Beaver Hollow camp (where the Pinkertons will arrive sooner or later) and accompany them to a safe place and help them start a new life. So I wish Arthur, when he confronted him would not have just kicked him out, but would have said something to Strauss like: "You have hurt a lot of people, Leopold. So have I. We have been bad men. I want that to change. I want you to leave that life of villainy and hurting people behind and do something good for folks. I want you to make up for all the anguish you and I created by helping people. So I want you to help those of our friends that need help to get out of this hellhole here and get to a place where they are save from O'Discolls and Pinkertons and all that stuff. So you, Leopold will now take Karen, who is a mess and needs to get of here, and Mary-Beth and go to Emerald Station. There you will buy railway tickets for the three of you and travel to a place far away from here, where it is safe. And then you will help them so get the means to start a new life, by working as a bookkeeper or something. If anyone asks, you are their uncle." -> and Strauss, impressed by Arthur's words would have taken the girl's under his wings and left with them (and than have worked an hones job to pay for their education etc. until they would have been able to take care for themselves - after all, women without a family were in a bad situation during that time; and Karen would have needed a lot of care on top of that to help her overcome her alcoholism). That would have been a way for Arthur to get two of his friends (Mary-Beth and Karen) to safety + give Strauss (who despite everything was his friend and someone who care about Arthur) a pathway to redemption. After all Arthur himself tells Mary Linton, Rain Falls and other that his main goal before he leaves (or dies) is to get the defenseless members of the gang (Jack + the girls) to safety. He also writes that into his diary. And his farewell conversations with Trelawney, the Reverend and Charles, before they leave + some camp dialogue with John, Abigail and Uncle ("Don't wait to long to get out of here!", "Be prepared!", "Be ready") also unambiguously states than. And even the blind seer encourages him to save as many as he can, before he dies in one of his cryptic prophecies when you give him money. It would have been nice, if Mary-Beth in the epilogue had told John that Strauss took care of her and Kate for 3-4 years after the gang fell apart and through hones work acquired the means to pay for the publication of her first book, which turned into a success, which enabled her to stand on her own feet henceforth as a writer, whose books were accepted by publishing companies without her uncle paying for the publishing costs.

Strauss’ face at 0:11 lol

In my long time of playing RDR2, I've never heard the opinion on kicking out Strauss from Micah

"Strauss made us rich, Black Lung!" "Funny, I'd have thought Tahiti would be warmer."

4:31 well I’ll miss him, now I don’t have anyone to antagonize and Micah is boring to annoy at this point.

People's ears 4:15 (pause) look just like this in the sun. Holy shit...

Even after getting kicked out he was loyal to his last breath in epilogue we found out that he was tortured to death but didn't speak a word about the gang

The theme photo was hilarious "Strauss Made Us Rich Black Lung"

I purposely never finish the debt quests because I feel bad for strauss

I don't understand why Dutch didn't had a reaction to this. As a matter of fact, I don't understand why Arthur didn't come clean with the gang about his TB and say that he was dying, considering that he knew almost everyone in there for years.

6:14 Hehe you have been antagonising Micah 😎

Personally I never had a problem with Strauss and his money lending, the only thing would be I assume he charged exorbitant interest rates but also most of the debtors you go to collect from try to run away or straight up attack you to get out of paying so I feel 0 sympathy for them especially Downes.

in the perfect version of RDR2 the literal moment Micah starts calling Arthur black lung he coughs directly into his mouth then laughs when he starts coughing

"I have a hard time not laughing when Arthur says 'GO AND GET A JERBB!!"

I never actually completed these missions until the 2nd playthrough and just then I realised what a horrible man Strauss was.

Still shocked to this day that Strauss died never saying a word. I guess he really didn't take it hard...

my respect for reverend said: 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈📈

Micah: “Don’t make unnecessary dramas.” Also Micah: **makes unnecessary dramas every time he speaks to Dutch**

Strauss: this debtor owes us 50 dollars Arthur: here's 4000 dollars