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Ganondorf's Dark Ritual - A Breath of the Wild 2 Theory 

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What fate has befallen the Demon King: Ganondorf?
Check out Zeltik's part of this theory!
• Were the Zonai Evil? B...
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@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Check out Zeltik's part of the theory: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GnfahFUctAI.html Special thanks to Johnny Peacock and RwanLink! Have a great rest of your weekend everyone ^^
@flutemusician2001
@flutemusician2001 3 года назад
Ok
@crimsoncyclone
@crimsoncyclone 3 года назад
Love this theory!!!
@odinangie1377
@odinangie1377 3 года назад
Is there one I should watch first? Like a part 1 and 2 scenario?
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
@@odinangie1377 They can both be watched in any order ^^
@odinangie1377
@odinangie1377 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze thanks
@samuelminick4594
@samuelminick4594 3 года назад
Since Gerudo males are born every 100 years, yet there hasn't been one in recent memory by the time of BOTW; it could hint that Ganondorf indeed became a lich and never died. Thus preventing the rebirth of a new Gerudo male, because the previous one never died to renew the cycle.
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen 3 года назад
This is a very valid point. And, a lich WOULD be easier to seal away than an entity of pure Rage and Hatred made manifest.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Great thinking! The fact that a new male gerudo has been born for many thousands of years is definitely a giveaway ^^
@ouroboros5793
@ouroboros5793 3 года назад
I thought this too, but I thought the lore was simply that a male is born every 100 years regardless of whether the previous one had expired yet But yeah that's the most likely reason why there hasn't been a male Gerudo
@marimus7453
@marimus7453 3 года назад
what about the male gerudo who gives Link his female gerudo clothes?
@samuelminick4594
@samuelminick4594 3 года назад
@@marimus7453 I had that last second realization too LOL Turns out s/he’s just a Hylian, according to nintendo
@jbertacchi
@jbertacchi 3 года назад
Plot twist: Ganondorf’s phylactery is a cucco, making himself invulnerable
@Dimension_jumper_
@Dimension_jumper_ 2 года назад
Oh no -mekar
@rhunter6980
@rhunter6980 2 года назад
The only answer
@yoeshii
@yoeshii 2 года назад
*gulps*
@destoyer094
@destoyer094 2 года назад
Unless you throw it in the lava
@gamertiti1119
@gamertiti1119 2 года назад
@@Dimension_jumper_ bruh just gonna say that when i traducted ur message in English ur name changed to bloom-soooi hi bloom
@admiraltrench2508
@admiraltrench2508 3 года назад
Ganondorf: “This isn’t even my final form”
@masterlink4250
@masterlink4250 3 года назад
He became frieza
@chaos_banane-1355
@chaos_banane-1355 3 года назад
Trench my guy! how’s the hole anakin left ?
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
he is now also "lord of the universe" as Frieza would put it
@RoninXDarknight
@RoninXDarknight 3 года назад
@@masterlink4250 Not to nitpick, but Ganondorf is older than Frieza ;)
@masterlink4250
@masterlink4250 3 года назад
@@RoninXDarknight i know
@thedapperdjentleman4706
@thedapperdjentleman4706 3 года назад
The idea of Ganondorf’s “transformation” being of his own will is compelling. I remember when I first saw the preserved sheikah monks I thought immediately of sokushinbutsu, Shingon Buddhist monks who would mummify themselves whilst still alive to keep their spirits in this world. Perhaps Ganondorf performed a bastardised, wicked perversion of this ritual?
@liljokez3
@liljokez3 2 года назад
Yes maybe as a last second resort and I mean split second decision to do so before the hand sealed him
@owentharp6906
@owentharp6906 2 года назад
@@liljokez3 dude the whole video is about how it isn't a seal
@mdj3638
@mdj3638 3 года назад
A small detail that I think is interesting, is that the EX Ganon armor set is scattered in the faron region, as are the Zonai ruins.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
That is quite interesting!
@adamdenardis5438
@adamdenardis5438 2 года назад
Imagine getting his sword and using it against him? 😂
@xantormp
@xantormp 2 года назад
EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING
@Saben.C-Spoon
@Saben.C-Spoon 2 года назад
Also worth noting is that it is Phantom Ganon, which you could argue may have played a role in things with the Zonai and maybe its armor is all that remains, though it is the one specifically from Ocarina so unlikely ig
@Saben.C-Spoon
@Saben.C-Spoon 2 года назад
@Nexus_Stuff this gave me mad Snapcube Eggman vibes and now I'm thinking of that same energy and personality but with Ganondorf and Link being comedically silent
@iwasanMBTInerd
@iwasanMBTInerd 3 года назад
Calamity Ganon: *Gets destroyed twice* Ganondorf: Fine, I'll do it myself
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
Ganondorf: You want something done right, you do it yourself *attacks Link's arm with malice*
@ortherner
@ortherner 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede i think ganon does it when there’s enough malice to create a calamity, which happens to be every 10,000 years. And i do think there’s been possibly dozens of calamities.
@Allanzitos
@Allanzitos 3 года назад
Well, it's not like Ganondorf wanted to make a move, he was forced to by Link and Zelda approaching him underground, if it wasnt for this he would've still be releasing malice for another calamity
@iwasanMBTInerd
@iwasanMBTInerd 3 года назад
@@Allanzitos Do we really know that for sure yet?
@AshenDust_
@AshenDust_ 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede if there was a massive, almost extinction-level event 400-500 years ago, we would remember it. 10,000 years ago, maybe not
@vitaminz5358
@vitaminz5358 3 года назад
Ganondorf: makes his phylactery a pot Link: exists Also Ganondorf: instantly dies
@ricaivory6571
@ricaivory6571 3 года назад
*furiously breaks pots* HHHHIIIIIYYYYAAAHHHH
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
Ganondorf: *FUCK!* I KNEW THIS WAS A BAD IDEAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
@toonlinkunknown7667
@toonlinkunknown7667 3 года назад
Can't you get Yoshie to save Princess peach? You sent her to the glue factory. Yeah, that's right. I wanted him to fix this pot. Never, Bring Link over to your house.
@just_hage8862
@just_hage8862 3 года назад
But imagine if it was grass do
@AshleyBlue2002
@AshleyBlue2002 3 года назад
@@just_hage8862 what?
@plumpandacakes5519
@plumpandacakes5519 3 года назад
Imagine if Ganon made the Triforce of Power his Phylactery...
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen 3 года назад
Oh. Oh no...
@WonkelDee
@WonkelDee 3 года назад
Very interesting!!
@slaine5997
@slaine5997 3 года назад
Thats what i think... Maybe the Triforce has to be destroyed as a whole?
@WonkelDee
@WonkelDee 3 года назад
@@slaine5997 Reasonable idea! The gods were really stupid leaving the Triforce in the hands of mortals anyways😂
@slaine5997
@slaine5997 3 года назад
@@WonkelDee That. I mean used for the good, its okay, but there ALWAYS will be people abusing this sort of power, willingly or not. The 3 golden goddesses should´ve just left it down for X years and then have it return.
@solitudegaming
@solitudegaming 2 года назад
Ganon could also have woken up as a reaction to the presence of the triforce as he is, or was one of the wielders of a third of it. Also, you guys mentioned that creating a lich requires a sacrifice and the Zonai disappeared suddenly, what if the sacrifice was the lives or souls of the entirety of the Zonai race.
@IchigoShinagami
@IchigoShinagami 2 года назад
That's some Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood-tier shit
@Giveitathought
@Giveitathought 2 года назад
What if the sacrifice is Zelda?
@Tea_Noire
@Tea_Noire 2 года назад
Considering how the Zonai are labeled as "barbaric savages" despite having advanced technology and a clear culture, I have a feeling that the Zonai "suddenly disappeared" in the same way that the Sheikah in botw got ✨️displaced✨️ by the royal family and weren't allowed to set foot anywhere near Hyrule Castle anymore. The Hyrulean royal family doesn't have a good track record of tolerating other humanoid races; like the Gerudo in OoT were forced to live in a desert where they had little food and water, and Ganondorf in WW straight up says he wants to destroy Hyrule because he was angry at the mistreatment of his people.
@solitudegaming
@solitudegaming 2 года назад
@@Tea_Noire Having not played a few of the titles, there are gaps in my lore but this sounds like a solid theory as well. Sometimes these things can be simplified by plain old politics (Hylia only a utopia for Hylians)
@CyoNearYou
@CyoNearYou 2 года назад
@@IchigoShinagami yes.
@GoodBloodGames
@GoodBloodGames 3 года назад
Yo that new intro is so slick.
@willisrose9756
@willisrose9756 3 года назад
Hi Javed its nice to meet you. I enjoy the content you have made especially with the ocarina of time video you made in 2018! Edit: Hope you'll still make videos in the future!
@RwanLink
@RwanLink 3 года назад
I'm glad I could help with the Ganondorf's renders! Amazing video Monster Maze!
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Thank you so much man! Your animations definitely gave the extra touch this video needed. Or else I would've had to reuse the same to images we have of Ganon'forf's corpse over and over again.
@Solibrae
@Solibrae 3 года назад
Remaking the whole setup was a cool idea, and you did it well!
@GeorgiaEllen130
@GeorgiaEllen130 3 года назад
Looks amazing!
@haileeraestout5567
@haileeraestout5567 3 года назад
Nice Litch Lore @@MonsterMaze :) That Was A Greav Vid
@toonlinkunknown7667
@toonlinkunknown7667 3 года назад
Nice work man, But the malice could use some work.
@KPhynx
@KPhynx 3 года назад
Maybe the zonai baited Ganondorf into the temple "made for him" so they could seal him. But in true Ganondorf's fashion, he used it to his favor.
@themostbritishpersonalive868
@themostbritishpersonalive868 3 года назад
The zonai: *kill ganondorf* Ganondorf: Jokes on you I'm into that shit
@Breadbandit720
@Breadbandit720 2 года назад
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 Jokes on you I am to
@HyruleGamer
@HyruleGamer 3 года назад
Exciting stuff Don!!
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Thanks at always! We now now both shake hands as two countries who've been eliminated from the Euro Cup xD
@donovannchapackdee3935
@donovannchapackdee3935 3 года назад
great work guys thanks for the video
@revilno
@revilno 3 года назад
YOOO HYRULE GAMER! Can you do a video on the Vaati eyes in Botw 2 Trailer? I’ve seen many similarities between them
@revilno
@revilno 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze good job on the video!
@sooba9627
@sooba9627 3 года назад
Dorf* lmao
@notareptilianiswear.6600
@notareptilianiswear.6600 3 года назад
I think it’d be really interesting if this iteration of Ganondorf was actually a victim in this conflict. A monster created by the royal family’s hubris and attempts to control both the secrets of Sheika technology and the warrior king of the Gerudo.
@monroerobbins7551
@monroerobbins7551 2 года назад
Yeah, and then it could be a moral quandary for the princess, as well as Link. Hopefully this will include Zelda’s love and knowledge on technology, and allow us to explore beyond the classic “good and bad”, if you will. Like, I’m not saying “redeem Ganondorf”, no. I’m saying “let’s see what Ganondorf was beyond just ‘bad guy’ or ‘incarnation of Demise’.” Like, Zelda has hobbies, like tinkering with Sheikah tech. Link has small quirks and complexities, like his muteness (dunno if that’s selective or otherwise, he makes noise, so I’m unsure), and his love of food, so why can’t Ganondorf have his history studied? Why can’t he have some complexities, even if they’re recognized post-mortem? There are people behind the Hero and the Princess, why not also behind the King? Beyond simple evil for the sake of evil. I just think it would make a more complex, and more interesting, story.
@KagomeYasha023
@KagomeYasha023 2 года назад
@@monroerobbins7551 in zeldas journal in the castle in botw she said she finally got link to open up and tell her why he’s so quiet and it was something along the lines of just doing his duty and bearing the responsibility silently, so it’s by Choice that he’s quiet. Found a video where you can read it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou6UsEf1J_o.html 17:19:10
@dave_the_slick8584
@dave_the_slick8584 2 года назад
@@monroerobbins7551 In Twilight Princess, though there are no captions, there's a cutscene where Link is clearly talking to the village chief. His mouth is definitely moving.
@freshlymemed5680
@freshlymemed5680 2 года назад
Im more interested in the concept of this being the culmination of Ganon being a victim of constantly being resurrected and used by others unlike Link who are just different people chosen by the master sword or Zelda who are all descendants of Hylia when she became human.
@John_the_Paul
@John_the_Paul 2 года назад
In the majority of games, he definitely talks, there just wasn’t voice acting until botw, which was the one where he had a thing about not speaking
@tigerstitches
@tigerstitches 3 года назад
A thing that's been making me curious is how similar I feel this mummified Ganondorf is in concept to the monks. Both simply continue to exist. The monks fade into a similar colour as the hand so who knows? We don't know for sure who might have helped with the shrines, so perhaps we're getting an answer. :3
@andrewcronkhite8088
@andrewcronkhite8088 3 года назад
Here is new Theory, Ganondorf did this to him self to remove the curse/reincarnation. Removing malice from Ganondorf which is part of Demise. Zonai was only ones that could remove it, but curse was too strong.
@janedoe4929
@janedoe4929 3 года назад
What so he could kill Link and Zelda for good?
@andrewcronkhite8088
@andrewcronkhite8088 3 года назад
@@janedoe4929 Maybe he is tired of being a bad guy or not having choice anymore
@UltimateTobi
@UltimateTobi 3 года назад
There is credence to this since, in Wind Waker (Adult Timeline), Ganondorf has become quite melancholic and aware of the cycle; so much so that he didn't even bother killing both; just "merely having need" of what Link has on his hand. And "ending that which binds us". He wants the cycle to end. But, the question is: which Ganondorf is it we see? Fallen-, Child- or Adult Timeline? My hat's in the Child Timeline ring. Twilight Princess (Child Timeline)'s Ganondorf was still young and cocky. He had no time to contemplate all this but instead manifested more and more hatred. They tried to execute him not so long after OOT/MM after all, and housed his power for God knows how long after (100 years?) in a mad man named Zant, to eventually invade Hyrule with the Twili. A lot of stuff to theorize about.
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
@@janedoe4929 no because their bloodline would live on
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
and they perhaps died trying to release him from the curse, thats a good thery
@abdel4455
@abdel4455 3 года назад
That "until now" actually gave me chills
@unironicallylikesranger7122
@unironicallylikesranger7122 3 года назад
But we already know what Ganondorf's phylactery is. At the end of skyward sword, when Demise fell, his essence was sealed away. The weapon used to defeat the Great King of Evil time and time again is the very thing ensuring his continued existence. Ganondorf's phylactery is the Master Sword.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Hmmm so... the Mastser Sword IS the phylactery? That is actually really good stuff! I wish I could pin this comment but... I had to pin the CTO to Zeltik's video. The only thing that contradicts that idea is that we've seen the Master Sword getting damaged by the calamity. That would be suicide for a Lich. But then again.. it was never destroyed outright.
@lordhelixarisen7271
@lordhelixarisen7271 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze Maybe that was his plan all along. The Master Sword is the only thing that can possibly defeat Ganon so it would never be destroyed by Hylians - whether it's because they're unable or unwilling to. Because of this, he could rely on its continued existence, but since it is his weakness, he needed to put it and its wielder out of commission but either he couldn't or chose not to destroy it.
@zeinech7083
@zeinech7083 3 года назад
@@lordhelixarisen7271 maybe its not getting destroyed but much rather stolen by ganondorf to keep it protected.
@KMMHealy
@KMMHealy 3 года назад
What if that’s why the Master Sword kills anyone whose too weak but tries to wield it anyway? And why the Lost Woods are filled with dead laughing/crying/screaming deku trees? The Master Sword’s connection with Ganondorf creates its own kind of corruption that’s not exactly malice yet very disturbing over time.
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze I'd say that the concept of phylactery is fluid and people are taking it to literally. Sure, it's a physical object, but it doesn't need to be something you can pick up and carry around. It could be the temple itself. Heck in Harry Potter two of the phylacteries were living beings.
@DEUCALION109
@DEUCALION109 3 года назад
I hope Koume and Kotake make an appearance, as part of the lore. Since they were the ones who raised Ganon (at least in Ocarina) it would serve a good opportunity to give Ganon some character building, which has only been slightly teased in WW before.
@raoullupin5412
@raoullupin5412 2 года назад
not to mention if Ganondorf is a Lich now, what better game to delve a bit more into even if in flashbacks and lore regarding Ganon's training under them!
@pancakes8670
@pancakes8670 2 года назад
It's so crazy to imagine the Entirety of the Zelda Series up until this point has just been a blink in the larger timeline thanks to Botw. It's comparable to the Human timeline IRL. We've got recorded history that dates back to around 10,000 years ago. It would be like if in our timeline, some great entity of evil was sealed away just over 10,000 years ago and we've just completely forgotten about it over the years.
@thedorklord1029
@thedorklord1029 3 года назад
Ganon's phlactory might also be his trident. The cave painting depicts him using a trident on horseback, and the trident has always been Beast Ganon's weapon of choice. That would be a really weird boss battle. Not striking Ganon, but rather his weapon of destruction.
@mikoe9119
@mikoe9119 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede Great theory! Could also explain why it's weakend so much, because at it's core, it's corrupted. Link has been able to fully restore it through great effort (sword trials DLC, etc.), maybe moving said corruption away, but maybe ultimately, it will come back.
@benjaminmead9036
@benjaminmead9036 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede fight demise/ ganon in the soul of the sword maybe? fi might help them take demise down
@thedorklord1029
@thedorklord1029 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede If that were an actual mystery, then everyone's reaction would quite literally be "Oh balls."
@JuniperGreen162
@JuniperGreen162 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede -- Doesn't add up. To make something a phylactery requires putting part of your soul into it, making the Master Sword an impossible object to use, as it would naturally repel his evil spirit from even entering it, and if it did, it would likely parish. I think the Tri-force, or Hyrule itself would make more sense.
@nullpoint3346
@nullpoint3346 3 года назад
@@JuniperGreen162 Are you certain of this? The blade that seals evil would make a very clingy host to contain a soul of evil.
@sheridan5175
@sheridan5175 3 года назад
Nintendo: 99 second trailer Dom: hours of theories
@JulesThePsion
@JulesThePsion 3 года назад
They give us scraps. We make gourmet meals. 🤷‍♂️
@CreamIc7
@CreamIc7 2 года назад
You mean the internet
@roycewise2530
@roycewise2530 3 года назад
Botw2 storyline is going to be the best in the series, anything is bound to happen, you guys hit the nail on this one. At the end of twilight princess we never saw where ganondorf ended up , in four swords adventures another ganondorf was born but sealed in the sword. This will be worth the 2022 release.
@popthisway
@popthisway 3 года назад
(for me) four swords isn't even canon tbh
@fist-of-doom487
@fist-of-doom487 3 года назад
They have gone on record that BOTW2 is going to be a dark story. Honestly the absolute devastation brought on Hyrule just by Ganondorf waking up is probably going to cause problems how many towns, homes and people were lost or destroyed as chunks of Hyrule got thrown into the sky? What kind of chaos will become of Ganondorf in the flesh being back on Hyrules surface? We have firmly established that this Ganon eats souls and raises armies of the dead. Honestly just imagining what this means for the people of Hyrule is terrifying.
@BobThePenguin.
@BobThePenguin. 3 года назад
Honestly, with how much everyone is hyping up the story, people are bound to end up disappointed
@fist-of-doom487
@fist-of-doom487 3 года назад
@@BobThePenguin. true. But I come into most things with low expectations. I’m just curious how dark this game is going to actually be. The developers said it was going to be a very dark game
@andrewbell9617
@andrewbell9617 2 года назад
Look at Ganon then look at a re dead
@Starchie28
@Starchie28 3 года назад
I think it would be really cool to see Ganondorf break the Master Sword in botw2. Like a demonstration of his power in this game. Almost like Hela destroying Thor's hammer; everyone thought it was unbreakable.
@Listlesseye
@Listlesseye 2 года назад
get the shards of the sword and the triforce and the princess lol
@roddcozmo137
@roddcozmo137 2 года назад
Yes that would be mind blowing
@lv1glaceon619
@lv1glaceon619 2 года назад
Late to the party I suppose but wouldn't this also free Demise? Since Demise is actually sealed within the master sword? Or has this been changed since the last time I played any games or looked into any lore
@Listlesseye
@Listlesseye 2 года назад
@@lv1glaceon619 demise reincarnated as ganon, so they are the same I reckon, or I figure that's how this whole thing works, the hero, goddess and beast just have an endless battle.
@lv1glaceon619
@lv1glaceon619 2 года назад
@@Listlesseye so my take on that is actually that Ganon isn't actually the reincarnation of demise but demise's curse itself on Hylia and her chosen. He was basically a God after all and it was the last thing he did before getting sucked into the master sword. Just like Ganon he was never truly killed only sealed. Or am I reaching too far into this?
@humanman7368
@humanman7368 2 года назад
It’s been a while since I played Skyward Sword, but if I’m remembering correctly, Demise’s soul was sealed into the Master Sword. And since Ganandorf is a reincarnation of Denise’s hatred, perhaps the game will end with Link destroying the Master Sword? The Master Sword mat very well be Ganondorf’s Phylactery.
@babyturtleshoe8451
@babyturtleshoe8451 Год назад
Well the master sword does look broken in the newest trailer which may be because he’s damaged?
@CursedCaptainGaming
@CursedCaptainGaming Год назад
Isn’t Fi in the Master Sword ?
@tlo4sheelo
@tlo4sheelo Год назад
@@CursedCaptainGaming yes but Demise’s dark clouds are also absorbed into the Master Sword after the final battle.
@CursedCaptainGaming
@CursedCaptainGaming Год назад
@@tlo4sheelo ye
@TheDigitalWatcher
@TheDigitalWatcher Год назад
@@CursedCaptainGaming Fi IS the Master Sword. She's its consciousness.
@blackpoe66
@blackpoe66 3 года назад
the contents of this video, coupled with the fact that the Master Sword isn't seen past their encounter with Ganondorf under Hyrule Castle, leads me to only one conclusion: the ritual transforming Ganondorf into a lich wasn't finished until Link brought the Master Sword to him, at which point he chose it as his phylactery
@glitchingnumber
@glitchingnumber 3 года назад
This is a good theory because if you want to kill ganondorf you have to destroy his only weakness the master sword And since the curse of Demise is still active he will come back but this time there is no master sword so nothing can stop him
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 3 года назад
My thought was actually the Triforce is it, but that's good to.
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
@@nahte123456 link Between Worlds Spoiler: In Lorule they destroyed their triforce and their world fell apart so if hyrule's triforce was destroyed hyrule would collapse
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 3 года назад
@@UnicronicHerald I'm not watching LoZ Theory video's because I don't know what happens in the games. Even with that there are plenty of outs, using the full Triforce to reverse the phylactery process, breaking the Triforce into pieces like what has happened to the Courage Triforce multiple times and rebuilding it later, breaking the Triforce but just figuring out a way to stop the effects as it took generations for Lorule to fall, or a way to purify it. So on and so forth.
@mikoe9119
@mikoe9119 3 года назад
@@UnicronicHerald Which might ultimately be Ganondorfs goal, either to break the cycle/remove the reincarnation curse (some sort of 'i don't want to be the goddesses puppet anymore' thing) OR be the big bad evil guy.
@CanadianBagle
@CanadianBagle 3 года назад
A new hyrule gamer video AND a monster maze video?? This day just keeps getting better!
@crimsoncyclone
@crimsoncyclone 3 года назад
Zeltik too!
@CanadianBagle
@CanadianBagle 3 года назад
@@crimsoncyclone yessirrrr
@crimsoncyclone
@crimsoncyclone 3 года назад
@@CanadianBagle There goes my plans for the afternoon.
@CanadianBagle
@CanadianBagle 3 года назад
@@crimsoncyclone same, worth it though
@icesonic358
@icesonic358 3 года назад
@@CanadianBagle Also Hmk with Metroid.
@bluecat3338
@bluecat3338 3 года назад
Me at the beginning of the video: What a dumb theory. No way this could be true. Me at the end of the video: ...you know they have a point.
@ethanyork437
@ethanyork437 3 года назад
Same I was like this can't be right but the more it went on I thought this sounds like something they would do.
@Flaris
@Flaris 3 года назад
I'm with you at the start of the video...but I'm still there at the end of the video. I respect the effort. But it still seems like a dumb theory that can't possibly be true.
@DanX_27
@DanX_27 3 года назад
Haha, I wouldn't go as far as "dumb", but I somewhat agree... maybe stretched a bit to fit a very cool narrative tho. I have mostly bought into the lich idea as a possibility, but I see some big holes in the full narrative.
@timooverhyped4528
@timooverhyped4528 3 года назад
@@Flaris yeah But i just dont see why anybody would seal away a evil this big And let him have his jewelry en his gerudo cloth on Like why would you let him represent that
@KwehShiro
@KwehShiro 3 года назад
@@timooverhyped4528 this definitely feels more ritual than a sealing, and also so glorified too. to me this has been one of the most solid theory I've heard
@raptorsuedemondrake4143
@raptorsuedemondrake4143 3 года назад
I had a thought, Just because he's a lich, it doesn't mean he wasn't sealed when we saw him in the trailer. He had his followers build the temple we see and tried to use it to become a lich, but said followers realized what he was doing and objected. maybe they didn't like the idea of being led by an undead, maybe they discovered he would drain them, maybe they thought he was a god and realized a god wouldn't need such a ritual. So they interrupted the ritual, or possibly got the shiekah or an ancient incarnation of Link to stop it. They created a seal unlike the seals we have seen previously. Given the appearance of the hand, it may be made from the soul or souls of the hero/sheikah who opposed him. They placed it on Gannondorf while he was performing the ritual of becoming a lich, which caused the magic to backfire and froze both him and the person sealing him in the moment of sealing. But Gannondorf had enough power for his malice to leak out or to erode the seal over untold milennia, causing what we see in the first BOTW and allowing him to break free entirely in 2. Which means he destroyed the kingdom of hyrule with only a fraction of the power he will have now that he's released. maybe not as a full lich, but still far more powerful than anything we've faced so far.
@ripmybrain8796
@ripmybrain8796 Год назад
I have the game and he couldn't be more wrong, but I respect the effort put into this.
@ryandunham1047
@ryandunham1047 4 месяца назад
Well, he tried with the info he had at the time. We can’t always be right…
@jahdieljulien
@jahdieljulien 3 года назад
What if, just as the heads of the Yiga turned on Ganon when he betrayed them in Age of Calamity, the Leader of the Tribe turned on him when he began absorbing the souls of the Zonai? Sealing him in place. Hence why he's sealed with the hand and only moves into action against Hyrule and the castle after the hand is removed. The sky islands could be an offshoot of the Tribe that survived, leaving behind their architecture and writing (old culture) out of shame.
@voidoflight2420
@voidoflight2420 3 года назад
I honestly really hope this will end up being the case. It'd hold interesting story potential, and would make perfect sense, truly showing how desperate Ganondorf became. It'd also present a really cool way of dealing with him this time around, seeing as they wouldn't just be able to use the master sword to take him out, but instead would have to find the phylactery that he placed his soul in. This could possibly mean the destruction of Hyrule castle, if that's the spot where he transferred his soul.
@rms1493
@rms1493 2 года назад
If Link is forced to destroy Hyrule Castle in order to destroy Ganon(dorf)'s soul, couldn't the legend be manipulated to create a new villain out of the Hero of Time.
@Torencresent
@Torencresent 3 года назад
this entire theory is one of the few that seems to add up the most based off of everything else people have been discovering. I like the idea itself as well, and leads well into a possible "redemption" of the Zonai in the sequel. I theorize now that the robot frog dude you find is whats left of the last of the Zonai, whom will inform Link of the truth.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
It definitely would be a great redemption arc. Once having sided with him because they were manipulated, and then changing their mind once they figure out Ganondorf's true nature. It's very reminiscent of the Twili.
@Torencresent
@Torencresent 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze the whole philactory thing could work in the same way as Voldermort as well, as allot of people dont know, but he was technically a lich as well. The Hocrux that harry needs to destroy are totally that, and he also shows I certain mastery of necromancy, though not nearly as much as ganon. It could be that each of the temples you will see in the sky, hold his philactories, or something along those lines, and the goal is to destroy all "x" amount in order to take on the man himself. really like the theory.
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
@@Torencresent don't say his name (had to make a harry potter joke)
@sneakygoomba5042
@sneakygoomba5042 3 года назад
@@Torencresent When he explained what a philactory was, I immediately thought of Voldemort! XD
@CreamIc7
@CreamIc7 2 года назад
The zonai sound similar to the yiga clan
@secretlyditto7716
@secretlyditto7716 2 года назад
The only thing that I’m really curious about is that traditionally liches require soul sacrifice to maintain themselves. That’s why they’re so inherently evil, they sustain themselves off the suffering of others. Does that mean he gets enough power to live by simply harassing Hyrule every 10 thousand years?? Dude that’s nuts.
@ermacmacro7136
@ermacmacro7136 Год назад
The implication may be that every calamity, Ganondorf absorbs the souls of those who die through his malice. And since the last calamity was so destructive given the way Ganondorf utilized his malice to overtake the guradians, he might've been able to absolutely sustain himself with souls for a numerous amount of years.
@akiraraiku
@akiraraiku Год назад
Given that all the monsters are born from his malice or at least corrupted and imbued with it to some degree, they could be doing the soul harvesting for him.
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl Год назад
That’s…..a rather horrible thought, but, it’s probably true.😮🤔
@pr0ng3l48
@pr0ng3l48 3 года назад
This has got to be the BEST theory I have heard yet. There is so much research and detail it's so thought out!
@BruceBoyde
@BruceBoyde 3 года назад
I love the lich theory. I've always been a big fan of emphasizing Ganondorf's unparalleled capacity as a sorcerer over the obvious physical might. Back in my own theorizing days back on Nintendo forums, I hypothesized that his magical ability may have allowed him to "hold on" to the triforce of power despite his physical deaths, facilitating his reincarnation. With the possible exception of the Wind Waker, we've never known the triforce to "for sure" be separated from his soul.
@sarahalice6321
@sarahalice6321 3 года назад
Don’t forget that Ganondorf remembers his past lives!!! So he does accumulate knowledge
@theaxolotlinthetoaster
@theaxolotlinthetoaster 2 года назад
Holy shit where did you find this out? I think I've missed something but please, I would really like to know more about this
@FlameIsExisting
@FlameIsExisting 2 года назад
@@theaxolotlinthetoastersame, makes me want a game based off ganondorf's lives or maybe like an animation with him not making the same mistakes he did in the past
@WintrBorn
@WintrBorn 3 года назад
Something to keep in mind, that mummification causes flesh to shrink. So his mouth being open, lips pulled away from the teeth in an apparent scream isn't unusual. This could also cause his arms to draw up. We have mummies from Egypt that have some similar looks, and the bodies of Pompeii, which had their moisture removed quickly, ended up in the fetal position, or with their hands up in a "pugilist" sort of stance. And now that's a thing you know..
@yasmunna
@yasmunna 2 года назад
Ganondorf using the tribe as ritual sacrifice brilliantly complements Zeltik's theory-that the Zonai were not "evil" followers of Ganon but instead saw his power as Godlike-and also explains why the Zonai spirits would be helping Link (arm, magic) in the sequel: revenge; justice. Supposedly the Zonai followed, worshipped, and were manipulated by Ganon, revering him as a God, pledging him loyalty, and building massive sacred chambers in his image, only for this false God to rally them into a ritual and ruthlessly dispose of their entire tribe, forcing them to act as a sacrifice for his own immortality; an entire culture imprisoned underground, their spirits resigned to being an eternal fuel for Ganon's burning hatred. So when Link-a hero with an unbreakable spirit; a courage which can never be forgotten-stumbles upon this hallowed ground and awakens Ganondorf (losing Zelda and the Master Sword in the process), the lingering, vengeful spirits of the Zonai take this Hero's hand and the two unite, relying on each other, advancing vindictively to bring the Demon King to justice.
@cullenmuir2707
@cullenmuir2707 Год назад
Honestly this seems like the most likely theory, and the arm on his chest could've been placed on him to amplify his power and allow him to separate his malice from himself to this extent and utilize it for calamities. Then that would mean the depiction in the trailer and the depictions in the art book being the last surviving Zonai that assists Link in taking revenge.
@erinfinn2273
@erinfinn2273 Год назад
@@cullenmuir2707 This is some Doom level stuff here.
@cullenmuir2707
@cullenmuir2707 Год назад
@@erinfinn2273 Unfortunately with the 3rd trailer I'm not buying it anymore. Either it's the new guy's arm, or it's a Zonai Link filled to the brim with Zonai magic, which seems to be based on Dragon magic. That said we probably still don't know. Could just be a random too.
@raeofsunshine8670
@raeofsunshine8670 3 года назад
I'd imagine if Ganon remembers all of his reincarnations because he was getting sealed away instead of dying he would %100 go mad trying to figure out a way to break the cycle.
@brandtboy1
@brandtboy1 3 года назад
I know Ganondorf is almost always depicted with a jewel on his forehead, but traditional Jewish real-life phylacteries are strapped on the forehead in the exact same spot. Might be a bit of a stretch though :)
@lollyblizowo4343
@lollyblizowo4343 3 года назад
I mean. Ganondorf could be Demise's phylactery. A living horcrux, per se. Would explain why ganondorf seems to only rarely and briefly be able to actually think through and explain his own motivations, and show regret.
@JariDawnchild
@JariDawnchild 3 года назад
Possibly. When you destroy a lich, but not his phylactory, what happens to it? Would it behave in the same way a horcrux would?
@lollyblizowo4343
@lollyblizowo4343 3 года назад
@@JariDawnchild I mean if we're going by dnd rules, they'd disperse into a pure magic form and hide away somewhere to absorb souls and such until they had the power to create themselves a new body to stick themselves into. Kinda sounds like malice to me ngl.
@octolinggrimm6387
@octolinggrimm6387 3 года назад
@Oussama Sayede ITS OFFICIAL, THE PLURAL OF LICH IS LICHEN. ACERERAK IS A MOSS.
@miikoshka
@miikoshka 3 года назад
I was thinking that too. Maybe the cave predates him and he’s being used as a vessel or something.
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 2 года назад
Isnt that what he basically is? And zelda for Hylia and Link for the every day common man hero man that he was originally haha
@ricaivory6571
@ricaivory6571 3 года назад
Every time I hear the lich, I just think of fin yelling "the lich king" 😂😂😂
@titandivision6667
@titandivision6667 2 года назад
sameee lmaoo
@zackaryshapley3571
@zackaryshapley3571 3 года назад
Although he first had a character model in Ocarina of Time, he is mentioned in both the backstory AND by the Maiden saved from the Swamp Palace in A Link to the Past. His full name was given as "Ganondorf Dragmire" in the English version of the manual, as well as the alias, "Mandrag Ganon" or "Ganon of the Enchanted Thieves".
@greenghostmusic3240
@greenghostmusic3240 2 года назад
Dude this is the first time someone mentioned him being a Lich, but it makes so much sense. He literally sends a shadow of himself to fight you while he escapes a time prison and uses magic to create “Zombie-Golems”
@thatvisiblemanoverthere3182
@thatvisiblemanoverthere3182 3 года назад
1:41 Ganondorf: Now you face my True Power! Link: Alright Dark Beast Ganon hear we go! Ganondorf: Fool! Behold Galamity Ganon!
@ridwanali6186
@ridwanali6186 3 года назад
The great galamity has left hyrule in ruins and galamity ganon controls hyrule castle
@noahbraun7901
@noahbraun7901 3 года назад
@@ridwanali6186 *hyrule gastle
@ridwanali6186
@ridwanali6186 3 года назад
@@noahbraun7901 *Gyrule gastle
@randomcat1962
@randomcat1962 3 года назад
“He can move, he just has no reason to” Same
@luc9427
@luc9427 3 года назад
Okay, i have a little theory. The zonai use dragons a lot in their architecture, the only dragons we can see farosh, dinraal and naydra. Only people pure of heart can see these dragons, but if the zonai were on ganondorfs side how do they know dragons exist? Since if they were followers if Ganon they're not pure of heart
@superduperchris8746
@superduperchris8746 2 года назад
What if they switched sides?
@diyarts9378
@diyarts9378 2 года назад
Don't forget, Ganondorf is a master manipulator, and perhaps made them think he was on the force of good, there to liberate them from their 'unfair' life, same as Zant from Twilight Princess. And since it seems that they might have existed long before meeting the King of Evil, they could still see the Dragons, especially the children.
@LuciferLonseraph
@LuciferLonseraph 2 года назад
Pure of heart doesn't necessarily suggest good, just that your heart is purely in line with a thought process. If they are pure in their pursuit of assisting Ganon, then they nonetheless remain pure of heart.
@MaiconDouglas-ik6qs
@MaiconDouglas-ik6qs 2 года назад
We can assume that they weren't exactly evil...
@scourgeface
@scourgeface 2 года назад
the zonai more than likely built their statues before ganondorfs influence and as others stated come his influence he likely manipulated them in some way. possibly through his strength at the least and a god of power at the most
@koparnico
@koparnico 2 года назад
I think the theory about the phylactery is pretty accurate. The music playing in the teaser where we first see Gannon, if it’s reversed, it can be heard saying, “Poor Hyrule, for Link has found the body”.
@redtukeguy4263
@redtukeguy4263 3 года назад
Very well thought out and articulated theory. Raising my hype levels for botw 2 Nicely done :)
@quietone2674
@quietone2674 3 года назад
What if the green hand is the Phalactry? The ultimate insurance policy - you can't kill him, because his only weakness is attached to the hero.
@nathanstevens259
@nathanstevens259 3 года назад
What if it's Link? Wouldn't that explain why the hand saved Link from falling in one of the trailers? The hand could easily be something that is assisting Ganondorf with staying alive all of this time.
@quietone2674
@quietone2674 3 года назад
@@nathanstevens259 Well, it can't be Link because he wouldn't have existed when Ganondorf needed one. Not BotW Link, anyway.
@AwkwardDemon
@AwkwardDemon 3 года назад
Just dropping a comment to say I love these collaborations between Zelda youtubers. I stumbled on Zeltik who led me to Nintendo Black Crisis and now Monster Maze. Tons of great content I'd miss otherwise. I subscribed and can't wait to dig through the back log. Excellent work on this one, guys!
@crushpisces
@crushpisces 3 года назад
feel like you would like masked nintendo bandit too!! and hyrule gamer, and commonwealth realm. thats the cluster i watch along with nbc zeltik and mm
@AwkwardDemon
@AwkwardDemon 3 года назад
@@crushpisces I'll definitely check them out. Thanks for the recommendations!
@titandivision6667
@titandivision6667 2 года назад
@@crushpisces thats exactly how I found all of them
@adamsandrey1557
@adamsandrey1557 3 года назад
Another brilliant, thorough and well reasoned theory. However, once again, I can't help but think that you Zelda theorists put far more thought into Zelda lore than the creators themselves 😂
@sfs2040
@sfs2040 2 года назад
My reaction as well
@SiberiElias
@SiberiElias 3 года назад
I LOVE the lich theory. It makes so much sense to me, even if it doesn't play out that way. I also loved the point that someone made in the comments about the fact t hat there hasn't been a male gerudo in a very long time. That would go with it for sure.
@HylianMom
@HylianMom 2 года назад
I think you are my favorite Zelda lore speaker. I enjoy your works immensely. Thank you for making me smile so much.
@kmcsciguy
@kmcsciguy 3 года назад
The mistranslation of the beast Ganon line from Zelda still irks me…NOA should’ve been very careful with that.
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 3 года назад
Ikr?
@Majora404err01r
@Majora404err01r 3 года назад
having a lich in the zelda universe: >.< calling it an intellectual redead: :D
@sl0thilicious
@sl0thilicious 3 года назад
What if the original cycle branched off from hyrule after wind waker since everything was under water. So the zonai were the survivors of that and became the replacement for hyrulians, and the cycle of rebirth happened to them; they had their own warrior and princess born into their race. Ganon escaped his previous sealing and retained his memories, so was able to outwit the zonai - he knew they would attempt to seal him but used that against them to become a lich instead? The zonai had lost their knowledge & heritage from the flooding, so began worshipping the dragons; the dragons themselves align with the 3 goddesses & there was a hint of a memory there. The zonai forgot about ganon as it was believed he was gone for good, & so had their magic used against them to allow Ganon to preserve himself, & they sacrificed themselves in a desperate attempt to seal him, not knowing what Ganon had planned. The green hand still seems to me like it's trying to restrain Ganon. Perhaps he found a way to circumvent it. The cave paintings could be a warning of what would happen should Ganon ever escape?
@CharlieQuartz
@CharlieQuartz 3 года назад
Whatever the relationship is between the Zonai and Ganondorf and how he attained immortality, it has to be admitted that the hand digging into his chest seems to be holding him there against his will.
@UnicronicHerald
@UnicronicHerald 3 года назад
thats good
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 3 года назад
@@CharlieQuartz agreed. I think Ganon got into a fight long ago... and lost. But it was a pyrrhic victory for the winners.
@patrickleblanc613
@patrickleblanc613 3 года назад
Good stuff indeed. Personally i do believe he was sealed against his will and im thinking it comes from one of two possible scenarios in my head. One being a copy paste of the wind waker scenario when ganondorf shows up and there's no link at that point in time so other forces deal with him, seal him away. My other theory is more of a crackpot theory, but i realize it could actually happen if Nintendo wanted to finally establish a clear timeline. Especially since skyward sword hd just released. What if at some point in the zelda series timeline, zelda or link or both become privy to demises curse. Think about it. The goddess human form (zelda) seems to always reincarnate in some form, as do some form of hero(link) and ganondorf, who even if slain, is eventually reborn, reincarnate d due to the curse. What if they realized this fact, and theorized at that point in time that killing ganon would only allow him reincarnate later, thus continuing the cycle so they decide to seal him away, turn him into a brain dead vegetable, or in his case an mostly inescapable stasis. He cant reincarnate if hes not actually dead.
@aithjawcraig9876
@aithjawcraig9876 2 года назад
I think this is probably the case
@terryhardinjr3581
@terryhardinjr3581 3 года назад
The master sword is the phylactery. "Sword that seals the darkness." The theory being the hand on his chest replaced the master sword in keeping him sealed, and worked pretty well since his actual soul is within the master sword, with Fi being the guardian like baast in Egyptian lore. Which is why the master sword can break and respawn in BoTW, because Ganondorfs corruption has weakened the magic within it. Further, it's why it won't break when you fight the four pieces of the calamity and calamity Ganon himself, because with each one you slay you actually are getting a piece of his soul back, and when link gets to his chamber that's why he awakens, because his soul has all the pieces returned to the ritual zone. It's not unbelievable that Ganon is this smart since he has done this before in ocarina of time, leaving the hero to open the sacred realm FOR him. In an effort to STOP him. I have more details for the theory and I'd love to discuss
@KryyssTV
@KryyssTV 3 года назад
It would have been a good theory had you not completely ignored the actions of the hand. Firstly, we see it reach out to save Link from a fatal fall. If this person had been an accomplice to Ganondorf's transformation they would not save the one person who posed a threat to their master. Next, we see the Malice reach up and attempt to corrupt Link but green energy, seemingly from this hand being, stalls the process and later even whisks Link off to recover on a sky island. You did address the issue of his desire to reincarnate but not throughly. If he did this to extend his life then somehow the Triforce of Power cannot sustain his body. While that is doubtful, let's set that aside. The fact remains that in both AoC and BotW he is seeking a new host body and this is a recurring theme in the Zelda series. If he was seeking a new body then it must have meant he was near death prior to this ritual. Yet the shadow silhouette clearly shows a muscular, healthy Gerudo man who isn't aged or weakened. Finally we have the room itself sitting amid a large ornate temple with a clear pyramid shape if you look at the trailer closer. This appears to be a callback to the Pyramid of Power which was Ganondorf's seat of power in other games. This room has not an alter but a dias suggesting it was somewhere Ganondorf would hold court. The Gerudo symbol on the platform indicates it had a connection to Ganondorf specifically. What this appears to be is a betrayal by someone close to Ganondorf. A double cross that has entrapped him but this hero/sage has reached a point where he can no longer constrain him.
@paullucas7504
@paullucas7504 3 года назад
Possible idea: what if the green hand on Ganondorf is the spirit of the first hero who stopped Ganon many many years ago? After all, I don't think it is ever said that any of the heroes of the calamities had the triforce of courage; they only wielded the master sword and the soul of a hero. Only Zelda and her reincarnations used a part of the triforce (wisdom) to destroy the calamity at each of it's appearances. Perhaps the triforce of power is stuck with the sealed Ganondorf and the triforce of courage is stuck with the hand sealing him. In one of the trailers the hand saves Link presumably letting go of Ganon. The hand's power seems to be fading or at least weaker than Ganon who could release enough malice to almost destroy hyrule. The hand of the first hero, looking for a way to end the struggle, my have detected Link's 'soul of a hero' and saved him giving up on sealing Ganon any longer.
@ChaoticHoly
@ChaoticHoly 3 года назад
It's an interesting theory, but Ganondorf is already immortal. He already commands the monsters of the land. He already is able to effortlessly gain followers. Yes, the Lich holds great power, but he already possesses Power. Would Ganondorf really risk losing that Power, used in TP to describe him as a dark God, to become undead?
@Jasonwolf1495
@Jasonwolf1495 3 года назад
There is at least one Lich in D&D who was made against their will. I know we're talking zelda here, but you did use D&D earlier as a point of reference.
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen
@MidoriOfTheShuinsen 3 года назад
I know what you're talking about, but I forget the name.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
I used the most common Lich theories as a general basis. Typically, it's a ritual performed by the wil of the one performing the transformation. It's also why I stated that the rules on Liches vary. There's always creative liberty taken.
@cannasseur_8246
@cannasseur_8246 2 года назад
Well done, all around. Just enjoying a fairly playful Zelda installment...and now I'm nerding out on lore videos like I did with the Elder Scrolls series. Looking forward to more videos!!
@threemoons_
@threemoons_ Год назад
Well this didn’t age well..
@shadyshinichi2JZ
@shadyshinichi2JZ Год назад
These ridiculous "theory" videos are just a cash grab for these youtubers. It's pretty sad they make money off of other companies hard work
@APsGTG
@APsGTG 7 месяцев назад
@@shadyshinichi2JZdo you understand what the word “theory” means?
@PRIDLEY229
@PRIDLEY229 19 часов назад
​@@APsGTGExactly, some of my favorite RU-vidrs are Legend of Zelda RU-vidrs because ones like Monster Maze, NintendoBlackCrisis, and Hyrule Gamer provide pretty solid evidence for their theories. On top of that, the game developers have stated multiple times that unanswered questions are that way because some of the lore is supposed to be interpreted by the fans. I have never in the almost 10 years of being immersed in the Legend of Zelda series had any problem with people giving their own takes on the lore of the Legend of Zelda series. In fact, people like NintendoBlackCrisis and CaptBurgerson inspire me to become a Legend of Zelda RU-vidr.
@dolgarththebarbarian2061
@dolgarththebarbarian2061 3 года назад
If you want a phylactery, the Master Sword itself. It has already been stated that the sword of evils bane is meant to seal the Demon King. Thus, would already contain Ganondorf's soul.
@potatosack7492
@potatosack7492 3 года назад
Plus, Demise stored his soul in the Master Sword too. And Demise is basically Ganon, so...
@IamSupreme333
@IamSupreme333 2 года назад
No, the Master Sword didn’t seal Demise. The Master Sword absorbed Demise, then gradually destroyed his soul. Demise isn’t sealed, he’s dead. Go play Skyward Sword.
@IamSupreme333
@IamSupreme333 2 года назад
@@choppercove Wtf does the Master Sword being melted have to do with Demise? Demise already had his soul decaying and being reduced to nothingness at the end of Skyward Sword, which is like 100,000 years before BOTW. And have you played Wind Waker? Link has to go re awaken 2 sages to return the Master Sword to its full power. But yet we don’t see Demise in that game. Because he’s dead. Ganondorf is the one who melts the Master Sword, not Demise. You should try playing a Zelda game before trying to correct people who’ve already played these games like 10+ years ago.
@dolgarththebarbarian2061
@dolgarththebarbarian2061 2 года назад
@@choppercove can you link me the clip of it being broken?
@dolgarththebarbarian2061
@dolgarththebarbarian2061 2 года назад
@@choppercove It does appear damaged, clearly, but I'm not certain that it qualifies as broken. Regardless, this is all speculation. I'm just here throwing out ideas. I think it also depends on which medium you want to use for the definition of a phalactary. I'm on the side related to dnd where it's an object that needs to be fully destroyed. Kinda like the one ring in LOTR. It can't be destroyed through normal means. Then we also have stuff like Dragon Age where a phalactary is a vial of blood infused with magic to track mages.
@shadowsquid1351
@shadowsquid1351 3 года назад
Wow this actually kinda makes sense & it'd be sooo cool if Ganon actually is a lich!
@theteacher3160
@theteacher3160 3 года назад
Going to listen to this while folding laundry! 😂
@jackvannistelrooij4959
@jackvannistelrooij4959 3 года назад
Two of my absolute favourite Zelda masterminds doing a video together that may very well be the most interesting and fresh Zelda theory video I've seen in a long time. Way to keep is fresh dudes! And your animation never cease to amaze me. You guys both rock. Thanks for making this otherwise shitty Tuesday bearable.
@sixwingedasura3059
@sixwingedasura3059 2 года назад
I think that all the Ganon imagery is actually a warning. Like, "Don't come closer, big evil dude is here, seriously, stay away."
@the1ofus
@the1ofus 3 года назад
Oh boy, here i go getting scared by a video game again
@Gamer_Z_1
@Gamer_Z_1 3 года назад
The only problem with this theory is if this was intentional why would the hand save link and stop the malice from spreading further onto his body?
@lukeychan877
@lukeychan877 3 года назад
maybe Ganondorf tricked the Zonai into helping him become a lich and realized too late what he was doing. so if the hand is representing the Zonai, maybe saving Link is their way of getting their revenge on Ganondorf
@wholsom1003
@wholsom1003 3 года назад
The hand is shown to be capable of free movement when it saves Link, so why doesn’t it just snap Ganondorf’s neck and kill him?
@lukeychan877
@lukeychan877 3 года назад
@@wholsom1003 because that would be too easy lmao
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
As stated in the video, the Zonai may have regreted their aliance with Ganondorf ever since. We saw as similar thing happaning with yiga, who also decided to change sides.
@raviolibirb8009
@raviolibirb8009 3 года назад
@@wholsom1003 i think the hand has to be alive by attaching itself to something, maybe it needs a vessel like link's hand. Or maybe it was waiting for the hero's appearance in order for it to move away from ganondorf Ganon can easily bitch slap the hand into endless void too if you think about it
@chessycopter9619
@chessycopter9619 3 года назад
The research that goes into your videos is crazy! This is a really interesting theory!
@narosedraconis2424
@narosedraconis2424 2 года назад
Honestly I think the Zonai did side with Ganon, but learned his true intentions and tried to seal only to fail and lose there souls doing so.
@akiraraiku
@akiraraiku Год назад
It's one of the most credible theories on the game i've seen so far. This is totally in character and taste for Ganondorf to do such a thing like you said. Plus we have fought many different types of undead ganondorf minions in all games he appears in. Like Skeletal Knigths in OOT or will' o' wisp and other flying skulls. Ganondorf's malice even animates skulls with malice in the Divine Beasts !
@ashfair6315
@ashfair6315 3 года назад
First of all, mind blown 🤯🤯 second, it always warms my heart to here how good you are about giving credit to other creators and theorists! Idk why but it’s just such a nice departure from a lot of the other communities here on RU-vid :)
@GalactaKnight-tu9ig
@GalactaKnight-tu9ig 3 года назад
I think every zeltuber in history posted a video at that one particular minute xd
@brandtboy1
@brandtboy1 3 года назад
Awesome video! I think the fact that the monks and new Ganondorf look so similar is the best evidence he may have mummified himself on purpose. The artistic parallels are there!
@philippefutureboy7348
@philippefutureboy7348 2 года назад
Thanks for the great theory video! I especially appreciate the intellectual honesty of citing priors/sources 🙏
@CaptainGreenCoin
@CaptainGreenCoin 2 года назад
If this isn't the story for breath of the wild 2 or at least part of it I'm going to be very upset because this theory makes a lot of sense
@pillowman771
@pillowman771 3 года назад
Let's go monster maze time
@JustAnotherTailsProfile
@JustAnotherTailsProfile 3 года назад
Imagine if Ganondorf decided to make his "Phylactery" the sun.
@LinoProductions009
@LinoProductions009 3 года назад
Nah, it's definitely the moon, hence the blood moon and possibly Majora's Mask
@omggggg2149
@omggggg2149 3 года назад
If the cave where he was sealed was decorated in his honour, then it sounds like he was betrayed. Or it was decorated after his sealing, implying the tribe didn't all just vanish when that happened.
@gimbo4025
@gimbo4025 3 года назад
i dont see a lot of theories where i not only think its plausible, but also think it would actually work in the story and i would be interested to see it happen. man, this would be so cool.
@RetroLiminal99444
@RetroLiminal99444 Год назад
Now we know the Goat sealed him.
@noardon1
@noardon1 3 года назад
I don’t even need to see the video first. I see “Monster Maze uploaded a video”, I click like.
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
I click "heart"
@thegreenstone8D
@thegreenstone8D 3 года назад
If I’m being totally honest, I’m starting to like the theories (especially these) more than the actual trailers!
@djpointer2525
@djpointer2525 3 года назад
11:18 Oh, hi there! Thought I'd stop by to say "Praise Joko!" XD
@atanosatacot
@atanosatacot 2 года назад
My theory is on his last defeat they knew he would just come back and be reborn. So they decided that they hold him on the edge of death like they do with the monks and if he never dies he is never reborn. But over time his malice seeped through and that's what caused the calamity.
@Dragon66898
@Dragon66898 3 года назад
The funny thing is when I first saw that Ganondorf I literally thought “Oh great now he’s an undead Lich this is going to be fun.”
@carljohansson3512
@carljohansson3512 3 года назад
After seeing the two videos you and Zeltik made I have had the idea that a sealing took place instead of the ritual that Ganondorf had intended Maybe the the being the spirit hand belongs to chose to seal Ganondorf was supposed to help him with his ritual but as the ritual was nearing completion he/she chose to seal the demon king instead
@nightfox8538
@nightfox8538 3 года назад
It's cool but these theories are always so much more thought out and interesting than what the story actually is.
@bapanada9446
@bapanada9446 2 года назад
It's the only downside of this theory
@anasdomain9994
@anasdomain9994 Год назад
That’s what I’m saying lol I don’t think Nintendo is that creative
@ACKHack88
@ACKHack88 2 года назад
Just a thought. Perhaps the reason Ganondorf wakes is he feels the other triangles of the Triforce and it reanimates him.
@danwg3368
@danwg3368 3 года назад
Zeltik + Monster Maze = perfection. Great pair of videos, can't wait for the next from each of you!
@Eras907
@Eras907 3 года назад
I believe the Zonai existed in all three timelines and had contact with eachother, so that the ritual that was performed, in all 3 timelines in the same place at the same time, effectively squishing the three timelines together, which resulted in the zonai either ceasing to exist, catastrophic extinction, hunted down by the sheikah, or they are the material component of the malice. either way, leaving a singular timeline that ganondorf can affect indefinitely. the barbarian armor has long flowing red hair to which hints to me they were allied, making this an acceptable goal of the zonai. this can also explain the geography being out of place, temporal combination.
@catalyst539
@catalyst539 3 года назад
Astor was the one who took the Yiga souls Ganon took Astor’s soul
@MonsterMaze
@MonsterMaze 3 года назад
Astor simply acted on ganon's behalf. Remember.. calamity ganon doesn't have a pysical form. It needs a host or an ally to act for him
@catalyst539
@catalyst539 3 года назад
@A B, I know. That’s why I said Ganon took Astor’s soul; he had enough with the Prophet of Doom. Astor pretended to aid Ganon, but he wanted to control Ganon. Sooga says “You are blind, seer. Calamity Ganon is not for mortals to control.”
@catalyst539
@catalyst539 3 года назад
@@MonsterMaze, Like I said, Astor didn’t want to help Ganon, he wanted *CONTROL* over Ganon.
@RestlessWandererOriginal
@RestlessWandererOriginal 3 года назад
Ganondorf will always be my favorite villain
@sandboo9094
@sandboo9094 3 года назад
I think something that would be interesting if the green hand was one of the golden goddess. Like they were done with ganondorf and did something them self’s. Probably not but it would be interesting.
@sharfold
@sharfold 2 года назад
This fits so well, bets are on your theory. Thank you so much Monster Maze and Zeltik! You two are masters at Zelda theory, I enjoy listening to what your fantastically thought out and researched theories.
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