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Garbage's Shirley Manson Just Perfectly Summed Up What It's Like To Be A Kanye West Fan 

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"He's a brat but I still think he's magnificent," the Garbage singer tells NME, months after a post she wrote criticising his Grammys run-in with Beck went viral. That post was only half the story, she explains here.
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@jeffpeterson3433
@jeffpeterson3433 6 лет назад
Shirley is such an incredible voice, and not just her singing. She sticks up for what she truly believes in no matter what the backlash. I adore her and her genius wit and sarcasm. Garbage is a fantastic band and all 6 albums are incredible.
@davidlance5310
@davidlance5310 9 лет назад
I was proud of Shirley when she ranted towards Kanye. She's a better role model than he will ever be
@whitedevil2
@whitedevil2 9 лет назад
David Lance i took a dump last week that went all the way around the bowl. that turd is a better role model than Kanye will ever be
@andrewvincent5472
@andrewvincent5472 8 лет назад
Lavid Dance
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161 8 лет назад
+whitedevil2 more talent in your shit than Kanye
@leescott2069
@leescott2069 7 лет назад
I never got the guy it's just noise like most of that shit!
@sjh9173
@sjh9173 6 лет назад
Love Shirley as an artist, and have for many years. Very cute girl and still very pretty today. I'm glad that she came forward and set the record straight and eloquently placed herself above the likes of Kanye and how he behaved at the Grammys. Calls him a brat. Good for her! Beck did not deserve to be treated like that.
@georgias.8352
@georgias.8352 3 года назад
She’s so smart and inspiring. I respect her highly
@MrEblevin
@MrEblevin 9 лет назад
she is being way too kind to cocky Kanye.
@elisabethandersen1102
@elisabethandersen1102 6 лет назад
Shirley was the only woman that made me feel okay being an awkward ginger as a teenager.
@reg074
@reg074 9 лет назад
Man she's still a fox
@debilusdemocratus1928
@debilusdemocratus1928 8 лет назад
+MunkyNZ absolutely, the most foxy lady to walk this Earth.
@fernfernisfernie
@fernfernisfernie 9 лет назад
Nothing but the truth. Sometimes I feel bad for older or even indie artists who speak out about someone or something that has a large following, and then get attacked online from those extreme young fans who can't see the wrong in their idols. You can tell some of these artists feel obliged to have to say something nice afterwards or defend themselves which I feel they shouldn't have to.
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161 8 лет назад
I'm old and it's death of real music lucifer llluminati cunt chops
@imemyself2820
@imemyself2820 6 лет назад
Back in the 80s and 90s artists would only say nice things about each other, or nothing at all. Mainly because they did'nt really know each other. Then Twitter, FB and YT happened and the media are having a blast!
@michaels8050
@michaels8050 6 лет назад
Fluid.. opinions that grow and change? Madness!...er...what a concept! Stay awesome Shirley!
@a1974h
@a1974h 6 лет назад
Shirley is still a punk at heart. Something seriously sexy about her. She's from the toon tae ;)
@alegauna366
@alegauna366 6 лет назад
Such a beatiful woman
@omenapp
@omenapp 4 года назад
Who doesn't love Shirley!
@EG-qp7nt
@EG-qp7nt 6 лет назад
She is brilliant. Very smart woman.
@zobazoba69
@zobazoba69 8 лет назад
I think Beck is much more of a genius than Kanye West. Nobody did what Beck was doing in the 90s, and still, nobody can match his lyric writing....
@e.d.e.8137
@e.d.e.8137 8 лет назад
Absolutely...too bad he is a scientologist and supports them and all their human rights abuses. :-(
@thesound-chameleonman3580
@thesound-chameleonman3580 5 лет назад
no comparison.. mutations by beck is a masterpiece.. tell me has KW ever released a "classic" ?
@47imagine
@47imagine 4 года назад
@@e.d.e.8137 As opposed to Christians, who are not guilty of anything morally reprehensible. They're "normal," right?
@tedmaire1599
@tedmaire1599 4 года назад
He's a loser.
@mrdompaul
@mrdompaul 6 лет назад
God I luv Shirley
@StorieGrubb
@StorieGrubb 9 лет назад
not so stupid gurl.
@grumblepig
@grumblepig 9 лет назад
Shirley you are a breath of fresh air in this fickle and false world we live in, don't ever change just keep it real ...that's what's important at the end of the day!
@tomwilko7841
@tomwilko7841 9 лет назад
She always seems intelligent and belligerent in interviews, not so much a fan of her music but I like her a lot
@AustinTXSlasher
@AustinTXSlasher 9 лет назад
Tom Wilko While I love their music, I think this comment was well written with respect in mind. Thanks for being intelligent about your opinion.
@Halleyscomet55
@Halleyscomet55 9 лет назад
AustinTXSlasher She says she has all of Kanye West' albums. I really doubt that, his music is garbage, in the true sense of the word. Maybe she is just being "politically correct", to criticize the idiot.
@AustinTXSlasher
@AustinTXSlasher 9 лет назад
I think you may have replied to the wrong person, but yeah, you may be right.:)
@Grant0610
@Grant0610 9 лет назад
+Tom Wilko She is typical Scottish woman! She will speak her mind! :)
@jaye61970
@jaye61970 8 лет назад
+Halleyscomet55 Or perhaps she DOES have all of his albums and IS in fact, a fan of his work. It is not beyond the realm of possibility that someone may not share the same opinion of a person/place/thing/idea that you do.
@jesuscamposflores9908
@jesuscamposflores9908 3 года назад
I love you 😍 Shirley
@thomasprisco8246
@thomasprisco8246 7 лет назад
I agree with Her. And damn she's beautiful!
@LeonTrotsky6782
@LeonTrotsky6782 4 года назад
Love this lovely intelligent woman. ❤️❤️❤️
@NurseryTheBand
@NurseryTheBand 6 лет назад
The world needs more Shirley
@jamesc3980
@jamesc3980 4 года назад
Oh my. Love your voice
@cinemar
@cinemar 9 лет назад
I thought she was smart until I heard her say she likes Kanye West's music.
@davidcurrie9558
@davidcurrie9558 9 лет назад
She's Scottish, a smart intelligent woman, and as she says with a big mouth (there are many like that in Scotland - not a bad thing!); she'll have an opinion; they all do. No probs there Shirley.
@MartinDelCarpio
@MartinDelCarpio 9 лет назад
Beautiful and smart.
@alexmadriangel8962
@alexmadriangel8962 5 лет назад
LOVE YOU SHIRLEY !!!! ... i'm only happy when you taaalk !!!! Jejejej ... 🤘😎🤘
@MsCharSui
@MsCharSui 5 лет назад
She's so right
@mikekutz5776
@mikekutz5776 Год назад
Atta girl Shirley!! My hats off to you.
@dlighted1277
@dlighted1277 6 лет назад
I wouldn't wipe my ass on Kanye West's music!😝.
@brentmoore3778
@brentmoore3778 6 лет назад
She has to be one of the most sexy,women in rock,n,roll.
@TheJayman318
@TheJayman318 6 лет назад
She is Amazing
@scruffyp9480
@scruffyp9480 9 лет назад
I don't get why people call him a genius. He just makes average pop songs. I mean with jay z headlining I could see the appeal but kanye west?!
@InAnotherLife90
@InAnotherLife90 9 лет назад
Scruffy P All of the Lights, just ONE example, is not an average pop song
@TheKevlar4
@TheKevlar4 9 лет назад
+Scruffy P Because Runaway is an average pop song. Actually listen to the music next time.
@scruffyp9480
@scruffyp9480 9 лет назад
You must be easily impressed. Perhaps instead of listening to music you should just watch a clown do balloon tricks instead.
@TheKevlar4
@TheKevlar4 9 лет назад
Scruffy P Believe me I am not easily impressed. But Kanye really does impress me on a lot of his albums.
@jaye61970
@jaye61970 8 лет назад
+TwoTube2 You must be really, REALLY young. Look up his discography and check out the stuff he did before he got "Friend of the President" rich.
@emoliianthom5556
@emoliianthom5556 9 лет назад
Beautiful woman!
@danielabartelli4734
@danielabartelli4734 Год назад
Bravo👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻we’re in constant movement, that’s mind’s nature, trying to fit in a stagnant box is simply sad.
@endezeichengrimm
@endezeichengrimm 9 лет назад
What? She must be joking....
@johnmartin5257
@johnmartin5257 Год назад
I agree with Shirley. She’s speaking out against censorship saying that it’s OK for people to disagree and that that’s actually healthy in our culture
@MainDrainStudios
@MainDrainStudios 9 лет назад
well said
@christinemarie4486
@christinemarie4486 9 лет назад
Not a huge fan of her music, but she's incredibly witty. Her "open letter" to Kanye shortly following the Grammys, was spot on. However, going to agree to disagree on her thoughts of Kanye's "music." He's no Tupac....
@DreamfactoryZero
@DreamfactoryZero 9 лет назад
Here's a fact. Most people in the industry have people writing songs for them.
@MutedAds
@MutedAds 8 лет назад
If you look at her and Lauryn Hill both you'll find some strange ass similarities
@RichardPriceElliott
@RichardPriceElliott 9 лет назад
If I were a chick, I would be Shirley.
@CaptainCocaine
@CaptainCocaine 9 лет назад
***** And apparently I would want to do you.
@TsetsiStoyanova
@TsetsiStoyanova 6 лет назад
She looks the same
@Ween745
@Ween745 8 лет назад
Shirley, you are way to hot to defer to Kanye, that guy is a no talent hack.You made some awesome music. Forget him.
@DrunkenSlob
@DrunkenSlob 5 лет назад
Jack Schitz I’m surprised she likes him it’s trash music like that which destroyed the mainstream along with pop. One of the reasons they quit after 2005 was because the mainstream went into the gutter among many other reasons as well
@simplesimon4372
@simplesimon4372 8 лет назад
Take away point: you can like someone's music, but you don't have to like them. I'm pretty sure people who knew Mozart learned this.
@bandawhat33
@bandawhat33 9 лет назад
kanye west is a genius? I didn't even know he had talent.
@mutantvideos4823
@mutantvideos4823 9 лет назад
bandawhat33 If he has no talent go and achieve what he has
@bandawhat33
@bandawhat33 9 лет назад
Mutant Videos doesn't mean he has talent. he just knew the right people and got lucky.
@mutantvideos4823
@mutantvideos4823 9 лет назад
Not correct at all. Im assuming you know nothing about him and basing your hatred on what you hear in the media. He didn't get lucky or know anyone. He began his career by producing beats when he was 12-13 for local artists. And yes he did get to know people (Such as Jay Z) because he was recognized for his talent, and this wasn't until 2000. Such a classic thing for haters to do, base someone success on luck. Just a way to make you feel better because you can just say you are 'unlucky' instead of untalented and/or lazy.
@futuro2076
@futuro2076 9 лет назад
bandawhat33 when a bunch of talented people we respect all seem to agree that Kanye is a musical genius, it's ok to disagree and not like his music or his person ... but to just blah blah a bunch of conjecture and ignorant hate is pathetic. The guy IS a musical "genius" and a total douche bag ... (like most genius' apparently are)
@mutantvideos4823
@mutantvideos4823 9 лет назад
bandawhat33 Like I have said, who are these 'people' that Kanye knew? He started producing beats when he was 12, and he knew NO ONE. He was recognized for his talent and grew from there. Stop hating and calling him 'lucky'. Thats just an excuse you use to call yourself unlucky, instead of untalented.
@bigsistahtips
@bigsistahtips 8 лет назад
Can someone tell which Kanye's song is actually really good? With musical arguments, course.-
@marcellengner5723
@marcellengner5723 8 лет назад
some years ago i was really impressed by the video of "jesus walks" - my focus is more on the music than on the lyrics so he may talk bullshit but the beat and samples are nice except the autotune vocals - in my opinion :)
@bigsistahtips
@bigsistahtips 8 лет назад
I agree on focusing about the music rather than the lyrics but really I don't hear something real, it sounds prefabricated.
@rupertbaxter2274
@rupertbaxter2274 7 лет назад
@Marcel: It's not a very good example if you have to exclude the song's vocals.
@Mohamedmifxal
@Mohamedmifxal 7 лет назад
BigSistahTips just fed to us by the media as a genius, hell no
@henryhill92
@henryhill92 7 лет назад
Kanye's music has really gone off the deep end recently for me, but I'll try to give you something here since I love his earlier work. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by musical arguments, since music isn't generally a quantifiable thing. I think its absurd when people use music theory or complexity arguments to promote an artist, because in the end none of that matters when so much of the music that sticks in our collective consciousness and stands the test of time does so because of a simple melody, or a resonant line, or a beautiful expression of emotion that could not have happened any other way. So here's some Kanye West songs that stick with me because of the unique soul they reveal, as well as because of their musical and/or lyrical quality: Roses We Can Make It Better Spaceship Lost In The World Gorgeous Flashing Lights Lastly, that's really weird to accuse a song of being 'prefabricated'. I mean unless you only listen to live recordings of improv jam bands the majority of music you listen to is 'prefabricated'. That's called investing time, effort and polish into art.
@cmjcj2ktn
@cmjcj2ktn 8 лет назад
What hit has Kanye been involved in that hasn't had a sample of someone greater and catchier that he hasn't sampled?
@mobydickforreal123
@mobydickforreal123 6 лет назад
Christopher Johnson ...Heartless?? Lmao
@aleejanetl.1774
@aleejanetl.1774 5 лет назад
At least he can put it together quite well. Can you do the same?
@TheLeatheryman
@TheLeatheryman 4 года назад
Beck is the true genius.
@robtrauth4518
@robtrauth4518 7 лет назад
kanye west is not talented on any level. He can't write music, Sing music and he certainly has no creativity at all. He is anything but magnificent.
@ChristianSachaNovak
@ChristianSachaNovak 5 лет назад
rob dolbey says some chump on the internet who has done nothing with his life whatsoever. I mean, I’m no fan of him but I’m not a nob head like you.
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Год назад
And it's even worse now. The downside of letting people get away with shit for reasons is that everyone thinks they have a reason for letting them get away with shit.
@joeljakob2520
@joeljakob2520 9 лет назад
I literally have no idea who this woman is but what a beauty. So well spoken and honest. Kanye West is a megalomaniac
@Alfredo78666
@Alfredo78666 5 лет назад
0:27 Ok, bye!
@RaeZoladawn777
@RaeZoladawn777 7 лет назад
thanks
@hilo330
@hilo330 6 лет назад
Kayne west is an Artist?????
@sstaners1234
@sstaners1234 Год назад
I could never be famous because of the fact that it’s like a double edged sword that swings both ways. No matter what you’re going to get cut by it and artists like Kanye, Beck, and to every extent, Kurt Cobain are examples of that.
@psychosneighbor1509
@psychosneighbor1509 4 года назад
lol. Think she ran out and bought Kanye's new album?
@mo6031
@mo6031 9 лет назад
Is there a complete interview?
@rszilvarn
@rszilvarn 3 года назад
And that, is how you express an opinion and be classy about it at the same time. We can all fundamentally disagree and still be adult enough to see something charming in the person you fundamentally disagree with. People should learn that temperament
@Abrahamhamham
@Abrahamhamham 9 лет назад
"Genius". God dammit.
@gusstone7468
@gusstone7468 Год назад
i like shirley, to say kanye is a truly a genius seems ridiculous.
@contactkeithstack
@contactkeithstack 9 лет назад
seems reasonable
@yittmashups
@yittmashups 6 лет назад
That's not the first time I've seen someone call Kanye West a genius. What do they mean by that, because it seems they're saying it in terms of his music.
@jesusbarreramillan8241
@jesusbarreramillan8241 4 года назад
No entiendo ni maíz paloma, pongan subtítulos
@walendxweg
@walendxweg 9 лет назад
KISS
@q7wasp7
@q7wasp7 9 лет назад
I've never listened to a rap or hip hop or whatever it's called, song. I hesitate to call that stuff music. I hope Shirley gets back her "paranoid" cut - looks like it's on its way... More tunes Shirley... come on....
@armatageshanks06
@armatageshanks06 9 лет назад
Fan of Kanye lol......Doesn't take much to be called a musician these days.
@leoqu1nn
@leoqu1nn 7 лет назад
forgot she had an accent, holy crap.
@skooshy621
@skooshy621 Год назад
I don't understand this comment. Everyone has an accent.
@zanevibore
@zanevibore 6 лет назад
I dated a girl in L.A., years ago, who had dated Beck, and she claimed he had some very bizarre habits she couldn't deal with. Bedroom antics.
@PCSExponent
@PCSExponent 7 месяцев назад
I find that easy to believe.
@jjohnson9009
@jjohnson9009 9 лет назад
I had respect for Shirley Manson...keyword HAD.
@michaelmccartney8506
@michaelmccartney8506 6 лет назад
Kanye Has a mind of His own....Good on Him.
@DennisAlvey
@DennisAlvey 9 лет назад
I never liked her more than after I heard her say what she said here....
@crucialreedy
@crucialreedy 9 лет назад
um so thunkful ta thunk thut peeplere stilla payin tenshuntame.......ah put on alladismakup ta showya that ama still relevant
@MultiValerie21
@MultiValerie21 7 лет назад
What? I was going to the Rage and Rapture concert.. Not now! Kanye West? Really? The only thing I know him from is marrying Kim and Dissing Taylor..
@luisgracia1787
@luisgracia1787 7 лет назад
That's the reason you're not going to their tour?
@brightertomorrow9514
@brightertomorrow9514 4 года назад
It's sad to see that Shirley Manson does not respect values different then her own. The world 'diversity' only means 'different', to have an opposing view to your own. Shirley Manson needs to crawl out of being a bigot and except that the world is not going to vote like Shirley wants us to vote. Not going to act just like Shirley acts. Not going to think how Shirley wants us to think. Not going to behave like Shirley demands we behave. Not going to look exactly how Shirley looks. We are different =not the same. Everyone on earth has values, they are just not necessarily Shirley Manson's values. If we were all the same as Shirley, what a boring place this would be. ihr.org/
@tjmanou6422
@tjmanou6422 6 лет назад
she just bashed so called "democrats" who cant take opinions and get offended on anything that doesn't support their idea lol
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161
@paulgrahamedwardspencer5161 8 лет назад
Kanye west ?? Too many drugs love your music taste is effective your judgement can't believe anyone would own up to liking shite
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 6 лет назад
Scot's and Irish built america! :)
@WatchTheThrone23
@WatchTheThrone23 9 лет назад
Sure, but having views which are different to your opinion will only get you so far before you become a turncoat
@DaarkDestiny
@DaarkDestiny 8 лет назад
No, it's called changing as information presents itself. It doesn't matter if someone thinks you should stick to your original thought framework! The only person we should worry about being true to is ourselves because we can not please everyone, and we should not try. We don't owe anyone anything in terms of our ideals. And if we are trying to be the best version of ourselves we can be, be malleable, seek real information, and then form a more complete opinion on the matter we are better off for that. Instead of sticking to a flawed, uneducated, emotional opinion just for the sake of consistency. We need to be focused on self improvement, not perfecting societal manipulation.
@WatchTheThrone23
@WatchTheThrone23 8 лет назад
You're pretty late to the party, aren't you? This all sounds well and good (non-sequitous, however) but I'm talking about taking a definitive stand on something one day and then changing that the next day - not just leaning towards one side of the spectrum and PERHAPS leaning over so the other side as new information is presented. The definitive stand shouldn't be taken as frequently as it does.
@DaarkDestiny
@DaarkDestiny 8 лет назад
I'm not sure what it is that makes her thoughts on the situation "non-sequitous", or mine for that matter. Seeing as how her thoughts were brought about by a particular event, in which she could see from multiple points of view. She did not feel one particular way, and so could not take a definitive stand on the subject. And the sequitousness of my comment is absolutely subjective. But it wasn't a meandering statement. I spoke very clearly about being able to change an opinion based on given information instead of following an original stance, just for the sake of seeming to think in a consistent manner to others. That being said, I think you're right and people should actually be able to see things from more than one point of view before making any kind of rash decision. But from your original statement, how could I have possibly been able to glean that meaning from it? It's pretty ambiguous in that dept.
@WatchTheThrone23
@WatchTheThrone23 8 лет назад
Destiny Webb I sometimes forget no two people think on the same wavelength but this comment was from a year ago and was not intended to spark a debate about free thought and opinions being subject to change (which is 100% natural).
@DaarkDestiny
@DaarkDestiny 8 лет назад
BillKyriakos I guess I wasn't necessarily trying to debate, just add in my cents worth lol. As you mentioned, I'm a tiny bit (lol) late to the party lol ;)
@Liv1ngTheDream
@Liv1ngTheDream 7 лет назад
So many "intelligent" people around these days with opinions on people's talent and pretty much anything else they can parrot the lefty politically middle class consensus about. Yawn.
@lostalex77
@lostalex77 8 лет назад
she's starting to look like that dude that wrote and directed The Matrix.
@yes-gm5ts
@yes-gm5ts 3 года назад
Hear, hear, Shirley Manson! I didn't realize there was such a large contingent of Kanye haters among the common indie kids, judging by the comments. Stay pressed, you feeble hearted mediocrities. Beck is tired. Kanye's great albums will be listened to in fifty years time.
@Zzarra222
@Zzarra222 8 лет назад
Well she's entitle to he opinion and I won't take that away from her, but I'm entitled to mine also. I totally think he's a very disrespectful and obnoxious person, who can't sing at all. I love many black performers , but sadly he isn't a singer or even a decent performer. Many people hate him , mostly because of is big mouth and his attitude towards his fellow performers.
@pretendcampus5410
@pretendcampus5410 8 лет назад
+Zzarra222 There is a big difference between singer and performer, almost nobody says he's a good singer. He's a good rapper, not the best, but definitely not bad, but production quality is top notch.
@Zzarra222
@Zzarra222 8 лет назад
+NoToleranceForIgnorance Ha ha ...point taken....I think he can do ok with auto tune as far as singing...but He's such an obnoxious person and very disrespectful to his fellow performers .... even if he was a good performer , his ego would be enough to ruin that for me and a lot of other people......He's just so full of himself and Kim too...I'm really surprised they can both fit both of their ego's in the same room together.....lol
@pretendcampus5410
@pretendcampus5410 8 лет назад
Zzarra222 Yes, well I agree with you that has become arrogant. Personally, for me that doesn't affect my enjoyment in listening to his music. Do you listen to John Lennon? I think that you'd agree with me that he's a very talented artist, but he is very arrogant too, just like Kanye West.
@Zzarra222
@Zzarra222 8 лет назад
+NoToleranceForIgnorance Oh man ....please don't hate me but.....I absolutely hated John Lennon except when he was with the Beatles.....I could not stand any of his songs after he went solo....It really had nothing to do with his ego of anything....but Kanye loses on both scores: personality and rapping/singing....Unfortunately his lack of TALENT, EGO & PERSONALITY is enough to make him the worst artist in my opinion ever.....So sorry if other people like him, but as for me I truly cannot or everwill listen to him unless he deflates his ego by 90% and learns to sing....But that's just my own opinion.....I am sincere....Most artist you can look past their ego if they have talent, but his ego is matched to his lack of talent....Thank you for your comment tho......
@djmattn
@djmattn 2 года назад
Lets Go Brandon!
@stephenmiller9325
@stephenmiller9325 3 года назад
Love this woman lover voice love her music and I love her band
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