That is the most ignorant comparison. I need my scope to take the free energy of a 338 lapua mag while perfectly tracking fractions of a radius. O by the way I need the glass to be purged and waterproof and transmit light undistorted. Comparing anything bow to a firearm is like comparing a rock to a precision machine.
I totally appreciate the time & effort you put into making these reviews Lucas! I know this is a Garmin review but B-Stinger just sold another stabilizer thanks to Archery Talk!
Thanks for watching. Do you like the Counter Slide? I've been super happy with mine. I don't like dealing with a front and rear stab on my hunting rig - the Counter Slide simplifies things. But I wish I ordered the longer one.
I impulse bought a bow about a year ago, I'm getting pretty good with it now so it's becoming a hobby for me. Ive shot well over 200 times in the last few days. Haven't lost an arrow yet 😅
Currently are expensive and a bit heavy and bulky, but as the years pass and the competition intensifies this kind of sights will be only become cheaper, lighter and more compact, so I can see a future in which they dominate the market (at least in the countries and states in which are legally allowed). Good review.
Was going to get one, but after playing with the HHA Eotech set up, I decided to just go with normal sight. The HHA sight limits the range to 55 yards.
Lucas in your opinion could you set up pins out to 100 yds? Is the sight window long enough to achieve 100 yds. You said you were sighted in to 76 yrds , is there room to get to 100 yrds.
From my perspective: The Garmin Xero A1i is definitely the future of archery optics moving towards more reliable shot placement. The inbuilt range finder with cant compensator, no clutter FoV and multi-profile arrow storage (different game) makes it appealing. The price is justified and reasonable provided the LRF is capable of reliable accuracy to 200m (to know how much distance to close). Are there testing reports released for the maximum range, accuracy (with Std. Dev.)? If Garmin desire to push the envelope further with their archery tech, I would like to see a windage correction capability for longer range shots. Reasoning and justification: I prefer a bow over a rifle for hunting medium game (feral goats and pigs) as it's illegal to own suppressors in Aus.
Great info, Got mine and setup was like 30 min ;).....I noticed that the “right arrow button” did not have quite the same plastic “sound” / feedback as the others buttons do you experience the same thing? Thx
First review I’ve seen it answers the question of how does this work if you’ve got such varying arrow weights I would think if you compared ranging a target and then setting up with your traditional set up this would be much faster less movement at first I thought this thing was a gimmick but there might be some validity to it
Good for stationary hunting like blinds or tree stands, but confident it would function well in pnw woods crawling through timber looking for Elk. Lens would get covered in water trash and leaves. How is the glare from the led pin? Can it's size be changed?
as always great review did you mention the inner diameter of the sight view ? im not sure if the comment make sens to you ? i mean the sight view diameter ? thanks a lot
like mine, but I constantly have to check my brightness on my reticle and pins, can be not bright enough or too bright in a hunting situation. The monitoring brightness throughout a hunt is a necessity as light conditions change
I didn't have any issue with this until after I shot this video. A few days ago I was hunting in the snow and the light changes were extreme. When the sun would really shine, the reflection off the snow was crazy and it definitely affected the LED pins.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Turkey hunting in a blind increases the issue, during the Spring for me when I first bought it, the 9am light was much brighter than 6am. I could not range the turkey at the moment of truth, once you learn periodically to check it and/or switch to fix pins. Outside of that quirk it works great.
The sight is nice but the view thru the plastic (glass) was not very clear to me!! I think if it was real glass it would be better. What’s your thoughts everyone?
Can someone help me with a question I have. If I set my first pin at 20 YARDS, will it give me a pin closer than 20 yards should I need one? I'm afraid of a deer walking under me at 5/10 yards and not having a pin.
If you have ranged it before or know the distance apriori, can you set the sight to show the pin at this distance right away as you pick the bow up without prior ranging?
The last thing you range will be your aiming point for as long as you like…just don’t range anything else. You can skis set your LED “pins” to whatever distances you like. You can toggle to those preset pins by tapping the main button.
I’ve not experienced any fogging, but is generally quite cold when I’m using it. Low light it’s great. Really bright light bouncing off snow...less great. Gets hard to see those lights
This is a really nice sight probably the best . In theory this could cost around 500 $ but it is going for a 1000$. Is it something people would buy it is really hard to say. I am guessing if someone can use this sight and prove he can be a better hunter with it then a regular sight range finder combo then people would really consider. By the way the range finder part in this sight is not going to measure up to 400 $ traditional range finder. This has to be proven in the filed where it will count not on static target practice .
It's hard for me to explain this without having the sight, but i want to know how you would do a walk back tuning process and broadhead tuning process and its hard for me to envision how to do french tuning, walk back tuning and broadhead tuning with this sight because its not like a regular sight. Should you do your regular sight in process first before doing walk back tuning and broadhead tuning? Or if not, will the sight allow you to turn it on and start shooting using the pin without going through the steps for sighting it in? I'm asking this question because I'm wondering if this sight will allow you to shoot in a walk back tuning fashion to check to make sure your rest is lined up before doing the actual sighting in process?
It’s possible we have a different idea of a walk back tune. When I do it, I use the same pin and shoot an arrow with it every 5-10 yards. You can still do that with this sight.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo So based on the sighting in process, after you get your primary pin dialed in at say 20 yards and after you get your retacle lined up, once it tells you to take a shot to make sure the sight is still accurate, then at that point you can use the 20 yard pin to do walk back tuning at maximum yardage. But as you shoot the arrows, I guess you don't answer the question that pops up on the screen until after you're done walk back tuning and you're ready to broadhead tune.
@@bobbydenezza7795 I'd probably get my initial mark set up first (20 yards, for example). I'd then use that pin to do all my basic tuning before sighting in at further distances. So I'd use that basic 20-yard mark before paper tuning or walk-back tuning (or anything else). Then I'd verify my 20 is still good and then go ahead and get my other yardages set. It's not all that different than using a regular multi-pin sight.
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Yeah that makes sense. That's pretty much what I was saying. Once I get my 20yd mark set and retacle set and it tells me to take another shot to make sure it's still accurate, I take the shot at 20 but don't answer the question confirming its still accurate yet. Instead use that 20 yd mark and walk back tune to Max range to see if you're shooting in a straight vertical line so the rest is aligned straight. Once that's done, then I plan on going back to 20yds and take a shot at a bullseye. If I hit it then I answer the question to confirm then I'm ready to do my yardages. Thanks for the help.
David Gutierrez Price is definitely the big one. Weight may be an issue for some, but I wasn’t bothered by it. That said, I’ve not had to lug it around for miles and miles in the mountains. And you need to keep an eye on pin brightness. As light conditions change, you need to adjust your pins.
on one hand i thought wow, were is the challange of bowhunting and is this fair? On the other hand, how many of us mis-judged yardage and wounded an animal? I can see this being the wave of the future once the competition comes into play and drives the price down.
Sort of. There is a finite amount of vertical space in the scope. I shoot a 475-grain arrow and usually get about 80 yards or so. A lighter arrow should get more.
Ive been bowhunting long enough to have learned. Keep it simple. Last thing i want is another peice of tech shitting itself on a shot of a lifetime. My sight of choice a spotthogg hunter set and forget. Never lets me down. Plus this thing cost $1,400 here in australia my Mathews triax cost me $1,500. Ill leave this one to the tech heads.
Up next from garmin!!! The all new guided arrow.just aim youre bow in the direction of the deer, relese & the arrow is guided like a missle & will follow youre animal thru thickets & limbs & make direct contact to the vitals! No worries on tracking.the arrow also has a gps tracking compomet that inserts in the knock so you can easily retreive youre game!
It does not fog as both sides of the glass are the same temperature, but the coldest I’ve shot mine is 20 degrees. It’s the coldest it’s been on Ohio so far this winter. It was worth the money to me, months later.
You know what I realize that it is a really well-made in a really nice site but that is way too much money for a site for compound bow come on thousand dollars $800 for a site Garmin got to be out of their mind only the guys that get paid the big dollar that are on the Outdoor Channel would be able to afford that your average archery Hunter is not paying 800 to $1,000 for a sight unbelievable
I don’t think Garmin expects the majority of archers to buy it. It’s definitely a niche product. But for people who are dropping $1500 on a bow, it may be an option
Same as the Indians had. I mean I’m all for advancing the sport and technology but at some point I think we go too far for hunting. Where do we stop? Does anyone think this is a bit much? Remember when you had to judge yardage? I’d be all for using this at a 3D shoot or something but I’ll stick to my pin for hunting. Great review of product. Thank you.
So we can be more accurate at longer distances. Generally not as huge of a deal to those of us that hunt in the thick woods where shots tend to be shorter. But western open-country hunters tend to have to stretch out a bit more and two pins might not cut it.
You can certainly do that. But I’d suggest that the move from a 2017/18 flagship bow to a 2020 flagship bow will have much less effect on a hunter than moving from a regular multi-pin sight to the Xero.
That rain or melted snow in that glass.... no matter what you say it will not work it will affect your view. And for $800 base!!!!!! Get out of town lol
You’re suggesting I abandon my practical experience in the field with the product and go with your theories based on (I’m assuming...always dangerous) a product you haven’t used? Sounds good to me. That’s just good science.
Or...you can make sure you put a fresh battery in before hunting season begins and not worry about it again for 6-12 months. You are far more likely to forget your release aid than run out of battery.
