Gary Judd On Compulsory Tikanga Māori Courses For Law Students 

thank you for your continued interest on our behalf Gary, someone needs to provide sanity and stand up to these clowns

Serve us since when did any 1 university serve us??​@@jeremysmith5232

Nope, you serve them mate. That's the way they want it.

@@jeremysmith5232 are you talking about the clowns at The Platform?

It's not the universities. It's the Council of Legal Education. The universities have no choice.

@@5150show which religion?

@@TuTeRa22the mumbo jumbo one

​@@5150show Which is which one?

@@TuTeRa22 All of it.

@@allanwood4771 Māori is a culture, not a religion, I'm sure you actually know that and are just being dishonest here. Religion was brought here by the Crown

Literally, the pre-colonial culture of Maori was stone age. The concepts of law and justice were by consequence limited to that phase of development which is why there is a single word that covers different concepts like honour, prestige and status. There is no nuance. The lack of technology meant they had no concept for roads or land vehicles which is why NZ was lumbered with the ridiculous situation of the roading authority being named after a paddle boat in Maori. This is dragging the country down into third world status. The Maori who campaigned in the early 20th century to rid their people of superstition and successfully petitioned the government to pass the Tohunga Suppression Act would be horified at the backsliding going on.

@@damionkeeling3103 I'm pretty convinced you don't know what you're talking about

@@damionkeeling3103 Wrong and insecure

My bro, that's your own personal problem. Don't blame other Māori

@@TuTeRa22 I’m not blaming Māori. I don’t like the dystopian machine force-feeding me pleasant aspects of my culture to appease me when there are way more important things to be addressed.

@@sampreece That thing you don't like isn't actually happening. You've been conned by Sean's platform. Come on!

Go outside and touch grass buddy

@@TuTeRa22 At least Sean is speaking the truth and bringing this crap out into the public eye.

Correct

Neither are that great tbh. We are better off with a constitutional republic.

That is such a mis-characterisation of the issue.

As I mentioned somewhere, NZ's the cheapest country in the English-speaking world to study the common law (the law of the English-speaking world)! So lots. More and more all the time. The requirement to teach tikanga won't change a thing.

Yeah all this racist BS is just dividing the country and will ruin it forever unless everyone is treated equally, it’s time to forget about what shade the your skin is and get on with life as best you can.

That is the intention . Drive the best out .keep the dumb workers to exploit

I doubt it. It's the cheapest country in the English-speaking world to study the common law (the law of the English-speaking world)!

Stay and fight. Ifyou winNZ will be a haven for expertise in the world.

​@@jackdeniston6150the ongoing race hate , towards non Maori surfacing daily fueled by virtue signalling from the UN , is making Kiwis weigh up staying in a country degenerating into a racial hierarchy with contempt for being white expressed as a virtue , against moving to a more accepting country . If this contnues NZ will haemorrgage . There doesn't appear to be a clear distinction between decolonisation and ethnic cleansing . decolon

​@@jackdeniston6150And if you lose?

when they stop taking from maori i suppose

@@Duckz558 What are ‘they’ taking? What have you personally taken? This is 2024 - time to look forward not back to the Stone Age.

He Whakaputanga - Declaration of Independence, 1835 On 28 October 1835, at the home of British Resident James Busby in Waitangi, 34 northern chiefs signed He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni (known in English as the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of New Zealand). The handwritten document consisting of four articles asserted that mana (authority) and sovereign power in New Zealand resided fully with Māori, and that foreigners would not be allowed to make laws. Te Whakaminenga, the Confederation of United Tribes, was to meet at Waitangi each autumn to frame laws, and in return for their protection of British subjects in their territory, they sought King William's protection against threats to their mana. They also thanked the King for acknowledging their flag. By July 1839, 52 chiefs had signed He Whakaputanga, including Te Hāpuku and Te Wherowhero, the first Māori King. The document was officially acknowledged by the British government. Busby saw it as a significant mark of Māori national identity and believed it would prevent other countries from making formal deals with Māori. See our database of signatories or read more about He Whakaputanga from Archives NZ. Transcript He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni 1. Ko matou ko nga Tino Rangatira o nga iwi o Nu Tireni i raro mai o Hauraki kua oti nei te huihui i Waitangi i Tokerau 28 o Oketopa 1835. ka wakaputa i te Rangatiratanga o to matou wenua a ka meatia ka wakaputaia e matou he Wenua Rangatira. kia huaina ‘Ko te Wakaminenga o nga Hapu o Nu Tireni’. 2. Ko te Kingitanga ko te mana i te wenua o te wakaminenga o Nu Tireni ka meatia nei kei nga Tino Rangatira anake i to matou huihuinga. a ka mea hoki e kore e tukua e matou te wakarite ture ki te tahi hunga ke atu, me te tahi Kawanatanga hoki kia meatia i te wenua o te wakaminenga o Nu Tireni. ko nga tangata anake e meatia nei e matou e wakarite ana ki te ritenga o o matou ture e meatia nei e matou i to matou huihuinga. 3. Ko matou ko nga Tino Rangatira ke mea nei kia huihui ki te runanga ki Waitangi a te Ngahuru i tenei tau i tenei tau ki te wakarite ture kia tika ai te wakawakanga kia mau pu te rongo kia mutu te he kia tika te hokohoko. a ka mea hoki ki nga Tauiwi o runga kia wakarerea te wawai. kia mahara ai ki te wakaoranga o to matou wenua. a kia uru ratou ki te wakaminenga o Nu Tireni. 4. Ka mea matou kia tuhituhia he pukapuka ki te ritenga o tenei o to matou wakaputanga nei ki te Kingi o Ingarani hei kawe atu i to matou aroha. nana hoki i wakaae ki te Kara mo matou. a no te mea ka atawai matou, ka tiaki i nga pakeha e noho nei i uta e rere mai ana ki te hokohoko, koia ka mea ai matou ki te Kingi kia waiho hei matua ki a matou i to matou Tamarikitanga kei wakakahoretia to matou Rangatiratanga. Kua wakaetia katoatia e matou i tenei ra i te 28 o opketopa 1835 ki te aroaro o te Reireneti o te Kingi o Ingarani. The Codicil Ko matou ko nga Rangatira ahakoa kihai i tae ki te huihuinga nei no te nuinga o te Waipuke no te aha ranei - ka wakaae katoa ki te waka putanga Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene a ka uru ki roto ki te Wakaminenga. A translation by Dr Mānuka Hēnare of Ngāpuhi, Te Aupōuri, Te Rarawa and Ngāti Kuri He Wakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tireni 1. We, the absolute leaders of the tribes (iwi) of New Zealand (Nu Tireni) to the north of Hauraki (Thames) having assembled in the Bay of Islands (Tokerau) on 28th October 1835. [We] declare the authority and leadership of our country and say and declare them to be prosperous economy and chiefly country (Wenua Rangatira) under the title of ‘Te Wakaminenga o ngā Hapū o Nu Tireni’ (The sacred Confederation of Tribes of New Zealand). 2. The sovereignty/kingship (Kīngitanga) and the mana from the land of the Confederation of New Zealand are here declared to belong solely to the true leaders (Tino Rangatira) of our gathering, and we also declare that we will not allow (tukua) any other group to frame laws (wakarite ture), nor any Governorship (Kawanatanga) to be established in the lands of the Confederation, unless (by persons) appointed by us to carry out (wakarite) the laws (ture) we have enacted in our assembly (huihuinga). 3. We, the true leaders have agreed to meet in a formal gathering (rūnanga) at Waitangi in the autumn (Ngahuru) of each year to enact laws (wakarite ture) that justice may be done (kia tika ai te wakawakanga), so that peace may prevail and wrong-doing cease and trade (hokohoko) be fair. [We] invite the southern tribes to set aside their animosities, consider the well-being of our land and enter into the sacred Confederation of New Zealand. 4. We agree that a copy of our declaration should be written and sent to the King of England to express our appreciation (aroha) for this approval of our flag. And because we are showing friendship and care for the Pākehā who live on our shores, who have come here to trade (hokohoko), we ask the King to remain as a protector (matua) for us in our inexperienced statehood (tamarikitanga), lest our authority and leadership be ended (kei whakakahoretia tō mātou Rangatiratanga). The Codicil We are the rangatira who, although we did not attend the meeting due to the widespread flooding or other reasons, fully agree with He Whakaputanga Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene and join the sacred Confederation. English version written by James Busby The English text was drafted by British Resident James Busby for the 28 October 1835 signing. It was then translated into te reo Māori by Henry Williams and written out by Eruera Pare Hongi. Busby despatched the English text to both the New South Wales government and the Colonial Office in Britain. Declaration of Independence of New Zealand 1. We, the hereditary chiefs and heads of the tribes of the Northern parts of New Zealand, being assembled at Waitangi, in the Bay of Islands, on this 28th day of October, 1835, declare the Independence of our country, which is hereby constituted and declared to be an Independent State, under the designation of The United Tribes of New Zealand. 2. All sovereign power and authority within the territories of the United Tribes of New Zealand is hereby declared to reside entirely and exclusively in the hereditary chiefs and heads of tribes in their collective capacity, who also declare that they will not permit any legislative authority separate from themselves in their collective capacity to exist, nor any function of government to be exercised within the said territories, unless by persons appointed by them, and acting under the authority of laws regularly enacted by them in Congress assembled. 3. The hereditary chiefs and heads of tribes agree to meet in Congress at Waitangi in the autumn of each year, for the purpose of framing laws for the dispensation of justice, the preservation of peace and good order, and the regulation of trade; and they cordially invite the Southern tribes to lay aside their private animosities and to consult the safety and welfare of our common country, by joining the Confederation of the United Tribes. 4. They also agree to send a copy of this Declaration to His Majesty, the King of England, to thank him for his acknowledgement of their flag; and in return for the friendship and protection they have shown, and are prepared to show, to such of his subjects as have settled in their country, or resorted to its shores for the purposes of trade, they entreat that he will continue to be the parent of their infant State, and that he will become its Protector from all attempts upon its independence. Agreed to unanimously on this 28 day of October, 1835, in the presence of His Britannic Majesty’s Resident. (Here follows the signatures or marks of thirty-five Hereditary chiefs or Heads of tribes, which form a fair representation of the tribes of New Zealand from the North Cape to the latitude of the River Thames.) English witnesses: (Signed) Henry Williams, Missionary, C.M.S. George Clarke, C.M.S. James R. Clendon, Merchant. Gilbert Mair, Merchant. I certify that the above is a correct copy of the Declaration of the Chiefs, according to the translation of Missionaries who have resided ten years and upwards in the country; and it is transmitted to His Most Gracious Majesty the King of England, at the unanimous request of the chiefs. (Signed) JAMES BUSBY, British Resident at New Zealand. CREDIT Archives New Zealand - Te Rua Mahara o te Kāwanatanga Reference: IA9-1 The downloadable copy of the Declaration was reproduced from an 1877 book of facsimile copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Treaty of Waitangi. The translation is from Archives New Zealand. How to cite this page He Whakaputanga - Declaration of Independence, 1835, URL: nzhistory.govt.nz/media/interactive/the-declaration-of-independence, (Manatū Taonga - Ministry for Culture and Heritage), updated 14-Sep-2021 THIS MEDIA ITEM APPEARS IN 1 ARTICLE(S): Declaration of Independence. © Crown Copyright.

maybe you 4getting you’re a immigrant yourself

Oh dear, you don't seem to understand how language works. You see, if you learn a bit of Te Reo it won't "replace" your English, silly because most people actually hold as many as 3 or 4 languages in their brain at the same time. It's very silly to try and say English will be replaced just because you're expected to learn a few words of a second language 😂

@@Kereru Not replaced pidginized. You can expect me to learn whatever you like, however, there is NO OBLIGATION on my part to live up to your expectations....tyrant.

Do you know your language and traditions have largely replaced Māori's here in Aotearoa? Do you know that? Or no clue of the history of this country?

Straight up it did!

When I was in University, my tutors wanted us to write a paper on the how colonisation impacted Māori. I wrote several things that positively impacted the lives of Māori, and by doing so was told by my tutor to remove it or my paper will be failed. The amount of pandering to the loud minority and hand-holding is pathetic. Those idiots who wish to make Māori compulsory do not represent the majority of the Māori population, nor do Te Pati Māori

Most countries are ruled by the culture's perspectives and understandings. Tikanga is the Māori word for what is right to do and appropriate. How is that mythical?

@@TuTeRa22, exactly. The formal law has plenty of myths in it. There's even a term for them: legal fictions!

Well, obviously not. They are not indigenous to NZ, even they understand that.

@@senseisaitama8684 nor are Maori

Because this is not Asia or Britain. This is Aotearoa. Show respect.

@@Kult365 You show respect by calling it New Zealand ,nothing else.

So, the Pākehā way has to dominate no matter what?

I think it's about focusing on positive things not negative. If these are good practicesor customs...why not?

​@@senseisaitama8684- nothing to focus on. The British law is already in place. That's how New Zealand rolls. There's no need for any other race to involve themselves with how we do things in this country.

​@@NA-sj9jywhy not just go back to Britain then? You do realise you're in the south Pacific right??

@@NA-sj9jy Spot on there mate.

@@NA-sj9jy there is a dire need. You know Britain didn't discover this place

None of them will have the balls, they want to be lawyers even if they have to grovel to racists

maybe not stephen

Sick of this nonsense? How exactly is the requirement on law school to teach tikanga going to affect you?

It's not the universities. It's the Council of Legal Education. The universities have no choice.

laughing at thieving clowns like you

@@michaelstanley8209 awww! Why do you care about the things you referred to?

@@TuTeRa22 because as a country we need to be part of the rest of the world especially as we are small country along way from anywhere. We want our kids to have the best opportunities so if they are studying law for example more time should be spent learning the processes etc that will give them skills that are adaptable to the rest of the world.

@@michaelstanley8209 Is local important?

If you think that we're going to be the laughing stock of the world, I'm guessing thatyou don't know much about the world. Canada's already teaching indigenous law in its law schools. And law-school rankings hasn't been affected by it. In fact, I think that McGill has gone up in the rankings!

Every iwi has been given billions in reparations and land, and are now all VERY wealthy. They are all building huge buildings in all main centres, renting them to government departments and corporations. They do not pay tax - how many New Zealanders know that? Given that they pay no tax, they have been able to increase their wealth hugely. There are now large numbers of highly educated and wealthy Maori. However, they don't want you to know that, they want you to think that they have been disadvantaged by the European, and demand every more money. If there are still disproportionate numbers of Maori committing crimes, why are these wealthy iwi not doing anything about it?.

pakeha standing in the way of maori to move forward and have been for 200yrs

⁠@@sueedwards9334 BS i haven’t a rolls royce

@@Duckz558The white man allowed Maori to move forward, this would be the peaceful tribes, who were sick of being enslaved, murdered & finally to add insult to injury eaten, by the Tyrannical Maori. Those warlord Maori would have made the Aztecs blush with their level of violence they showed to other tribes of their own people. FACT.

@@briansatchell2319 We move how we want! Why do you get to define what moving forward is? One foot in front of the other, colonise lands and then feel insecure because the locals didn't just give up how you wanted...

Nice 1950s attitude there mate. You learn all this from the skinheads?

⁠@@weiweirice2597- you have a habit (typical SJW) of failing to actually make an argument, and resorting to name-calling instead. Nothing the OP said is an ‘attitude’ Maori WERE separate tribes Maori DIDN’T have a written language I’m sorry these facts hurt your feels

@@asteve4914 the argument is his statement is old school and narrow minded. Just asking where he gets his vast knowledge from

What do you know about it? You're just scared of losing the white is right dominance. Pretty pathetic

@@asteve4914 What do all of those points have to do with historical oppression and the continued oppression now? Nothing....

They're not judiciary recommendations at all. The judiciary is on board with the requirement. Judd's not a judge.

@@eileencoulter6263 I for one ,certainly won’t be. And never will.

@allanwood4771 me nether but if is good for a certain race and not another we all should identify as maori and stuff up the court system

Indeed😂

Colonisation is more cringe

@@weiweirice2597 complaining about civilization is so 1840

Back to the stoneage

@@Mostlypeaceful896 you know what the word irony means?

Hey not too different from the Brits aye?

@@weiweirice2597 More Maori were killed by Maori with muskets than were ever killed by the Brits. The Brits never had the kind of thirst for blood, some, not all Maori had for their own people! Thats why so many Chiefs were willing to cede sovereignty by signing the T.O.W! Life under civilized colonial rule was far, far more peaceful than life under Maori tribal rule. That a fact my guy.

@@Colin_Izer1111 oh I meant Brits in general(throw a dart at a map). But yeah maybe check out the land wars too sir. Some good reading there

Yeah, because Anglo-American peoples don't wage war, either directly or by proxy!

Un bloody believable!!! No wonder Kiwis are leaving in droves! In 1840 Maori wanted protection from themselves and now we are hearing all this b------t !! There are no full blooded Maori anymore and some are so white you have to wonder. Racism and activism are alive and growing in NZ °

More like warlords with the way things are going.

Hear hear! Woops!

We will be at the mercy of every individual maori who can claim this 'tikanga' is peculiar to him and his whanau. The 'planned' adoption of this notion that a belief/cultural understanding/practice of a specific group will take precedence is not tenable under the justice system we hold to which considers that there is a social contract we ALL are party to (citizenship) and the rules I.e. laws that govern that apply equally to all regardless of race/ethnicity. It is like saying that islamists hold to sharia law and that it is this law that must determine how we prosecute what is considered lawful in a judeo christian court setting.

You raise a good point, different tribes had different names for some plants suggesting long periods of non-interaction with different groups. That would easily lead to cultural differences.

@@damionkeeling3103 That's what I was thinking. There are different protocols, names, even how Māori arrived here for some Iwi. Te Reo is an anglised transliteration of dialects. I'm mixed so only have one Hapu but many of my cousins have 2 or more. This takeover is getting ridiculous.

The common law isn't the same throughout the common-law world, but we still teach it. Also, NZ lawyers are able to practise law in Australia (even though Australian common law isn't the same), as long as they take the oath in Australia.

In NZ, we somehow manage to learn (some) Australian, Canadian, English, and US law, even though it's not exactly the same as NZ law. Do you think that are any NZ lawyers who know all of NZ law? There aren't! Also, NZ lawyers have the right to practise in Australia, as long as they take the oath there. It's not as difficult as you think, if you use your imagination.

😂

You'd think so based on their inflight 'korero'✊🏽🤪

It is in their tradition to get free bail out money from the government

No, but apparently our navy does.

​@@davethewave7248- should have had longer oars on the waka. SMH. 😂

Yeah, for politicians who get your vote out of your fear of the boogey man Māori. Sad state of affairs isn't it?

​@@TuTeRa22That's what parliamentary democracy is all about, an equal vote for all

@@geoffstokes That didn't address that they get your vote based on your fear

Squadly dinky do!

Study of Magna Carta would sort it out within 2 weeks the Govt would address us, we can lawfully strike on taxes and fines temporarily but they don't teach us that we are just hammered with a fake Treaty that means zero to us!

Aren't means 'are not' so that means 'are not Māori'. Isn't that the same thing? Elighten me with your liguistic expertise take

​@@TuTeRa22- well aware of what I wrote. It's written that way, because Maori tend to twist words and try to make different meanings of what's being said, just for the sake of being a dirt bag. I don't don't play word games. Have a nice day.

@@NA-sj9jyProve it!

I think we should bring the Olde Germanic Language back which was stamped out and replaced with the current English

Evidence of that, please?

@TuTeRa22 what do mean evidence ? Let's say nativity is the fires of 4 generations of continuous occupation of an area of land you then become the custodians of that area but u must be able to hold it if you can't u lose it that was fair game in the maori world but it mix in with common law maritime law and now united nations wokery which is really a corporate seizure of land under the guize of justice. Separate out these systems if u can because it seems many Maori can't no offense intended but to me maori are simply being used.

Can you name them please we all want to know.

SOLD

i asked why. ? they said " so the abs can still get a hand out"😮

Got any shit jokes about Indians or black ppl while you're at it?

It's incompatible with modern law, it's a system that comes from the stone age. My ancestors lived in the stone age around 5000 years ago, I wouldn't want our legal system which has developed over millenia to be replaced by something from back then. At best issues between Maori could have that option but that's problematic too as then you're creating parallel societies which overlap in physical space. It's not like there is some great Maori tribal hinterland, the vast majority of them live within regular NZ society and the tribal lands are scattered and relatively small.

No one would partake

No it goes against the Treaty and Chiefs principles which everyone should be reading, Maori NEVER mention their statements, back in the 70's 80s 90's it was "Honour the Chiefs" nothing about honouring the Treaty that was already in action, now they won't quote the Chiefs at all cos their agenda clashes it's just criminal

That's true and many Pakeha are doing it

Proof of these customs would actually be reassuring. With no written language, it’s easy to make up any sort of mumbo jumbo to suit the narrative. I doubt if there was much ‘justice’ for a transgressor prior to 1840, especially if they weren’t one of the elite.

New Zealand

@@Mark-g6l7i Aotearoa

@@Mark-g6l7i Aotearoa

@@MrWillt100 Incorrect, the proper and original name of the country is New Zealand. Aotea or sometimes Aotearoa referred first to the Great barrier island and was ocassionally used to refer to the North Island (probably because it was easier to say than Te ika a Maui). It was not used to refer to the South Island or Stewart Island and it wasn't used to refer to the Chathams or the NZ Subantarctic Islands. The original name for the current collection of islands that comprise New Zealand is New Zealand.

Aotearoa

No intention of acknowledging it. 😂 Rejected. Not my country. Not my culture. Not my traditions. Not my language. It means nothing. We have our own culture, traditions, language, customs, law etc and have zero intention of giving any of that up...and why would we. 😂

@@NA-sj9jy who's we?

​@@Youknowwhatyouknowbro- my household. With many others along side me. Read the comments, and feeling the mood of the people making them. We...we don't want this. We....we will do what we can to save our country from being under attack by the UN using Maori to start their civvil waar. That's what this is really about. The UN are playing you. If Maori don't wise up, and keep being played by the UN, under their UNDRIP....you will lose everything, we all will. Because that's the WEF, UN agenda. Maori, rights, freedoms, customs, traditions, cultures, race, gender, religion, sovereignty, constitutions, treaties etc are not in their plan for us. Humanity is to be tagged, monitored, identified, counted, tracked, and controlled at all times in THEIR new reset, block chain digital society. Those tagged, will be sl@ves. I know you don't want that, as much as I don't.....so yes...WE BLOODY FIGHT to keep this country out of the UNs hands. That's where our divide needs to be. That's humanities 3n3my. Not Maori against non-Maori.

Look at the civilisation the Romans created and compare. THAT is the difference!

You didn't listen did you

@@damionkeeling3103 Where is that civilisation now?

@@neilstuarr2278 I did listen, oh yes, and I engaged my brain, at the same time- makes a big difference...

​@@Dave183the point of course is that many civilsations have left their stamp on aspects of what we know, how we govern, how we live,the industries we have evolved etc. Aa we read the span of history we see civilsations rise and fall but their contributions are weighed and noted. The primitives of Britain in the early 1st century were colonised by the Romans which started the journey to Empire. I would argue that the Britain of the 1st century was further advanced in many if not all aspects than the stoneage Maori if the 1840s. Native populations living in isolation naturally create some form of culture and ways of living. But let us not be deceived that such limited evolved tribal mores and culture should be jammed willy nilly into 3000+ years of accumulated and developed knowledge and experience. There are always lessons to be learned and absorbed. But to swallow te ao maori and tikanga holus bolus into New Zealand would be foolhardy and send us into third world status.

No thank you

Why?

Um....hell no.

No way

Erm… hypocrisy would also be crying about something for 200 years, and then doing the same thing yourself You can’t have it both ways

@@asteve4914 that is true. But imagine if it passes. Looking at how many tears there are in the comments already and it's only a tiny wee taste of your own medicine. Looking at the positives, though, at least we might all be able to empathise a little more with each other

Many, many Maori openly embraced the European way of doing things and considered their live improved for it. You can see this stated over and over again, in their own words, in source materials. If you want to know what holds you back, it's your pathetic victimhood mentality!

You're free to go live in your traditional ways in the Forest but here you are on the internet, one of the things forced on your people.

@@damionkeeling3103 I can't mate the crown stole it all

Winnie

Tikanga Christianity is the Principle of NZ, the Treaty Chiefs agreed to it and left the old evil ways behind and that savage barbaric lifestyle is gone!

@@StGammon77 Aww! You don't need to be so scared of Māori. Insecurity never works

Maoris aren't mentioned in the Treaty and there's a very good reason for that

Everyone is special but you are so fragile, I think you need your nappy changed and a nap

But it was just fine to bash your ideals.

@richsmith3300 look at the Polynesians their children know their own language and culture taught by their parents, so why can't the Maoris do the same? It's 2024 no more excuses. Maori can do better if they choose too. Not all Maori are lazy weak minded criminals like the media wants you to believe.

Funny, and sad, how working with the indigenous people on things seems as though the indigenous are getting treated special.

They not even mentioned in the Treaty even the Te Reo version and there's a very good reason for that

Tikanga what? The Treaty Chiefs said the new Tikanga was Christianity you cannot change it