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GAS FURNACE MOTOR DRAWING HIGH AMPS TROUBLE SHOOTING TO FIND ISSUE 

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GAS FURNACE MOTOR DRAWING HIGH AMPS TROUBLE SHOOTING TO FIND ISSUE
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Комментарии : 110   
@tedparkman3111
@tedparkman3111 11 месяцев назад
For a plumber, your a danm good electrian Steve. Awesome job!
@josephcade3541
@josephcade3541 Год назад
Steve you should ohm out the windings and ground on the motor. That would tell you straight away if the motor is bad. And if it's bad when you get a new motor you should ohm out the windings to be sure that the new motor is okay. And be sure to put the amp meter on it make sure the proper amperage
@bradleythomas5445
@bradleythomas5445 Год назад
That was a tough one. Great detective work, Steve.
@J-Colt
@J-Colt Год назад
Nice trouble shooting Steven! Thanks for posting!
@user-sx2xy8dn9v
@user-sx2xy8dn9v Год назад
That looked complicated Steve, great job determining what wire to which, that's why I learn SO much from your video's! Enjoy the long weekend and don't forget the video's! 🎉😎💥💯☝️👍🫵
@PSB-900
@PSB-900 Год назад
You're brilliant Steve! Great troubleshooting work.
@josephcade3541
@josephcade3541 Год назад
Steve make sure you check the capacitor for good health. If a run capacitor fails, the motor can display a variety of problems including not starting, overheating, and vibrating
@BritishEngineer
@BritishEngineer 11 месяцев назад
Lack of phase shift
@Todestelzer
@Todestelzer 28 дней назад
He checked it. It’s in the vid.
@josephz9006
@josephz9006 6 месяцев назад
Wow this is a perfect example of why i do all my own Plumbing electrical and and anything in-between
@WeatherNut27
@WeatherNut27 Год назад
Troubleshooting from hell. I watched every minute. Nice job explaining your thoughts and reasons for things.
@chuckquinn8026
@chuckquinn8026 Год назад
Excellent diagnosis Steve!
@dannyg1809
@dannyg1809 Год назад
25 minutes in and I’m pulling my hair out 😂 I’d give it a good kick and hope for the best! Your amazing Steve!
@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd
@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd Год назад
Well done Steve. Every now and then, you'll get that long one.
@PianoRevisited
@PianoRevisited Год назад
When Steve says "that's queer " - we got problems, Mama ! Between old Nervous Nellie and this Daycare - that's a full time job. 😅
@Daleeather1975
@Daleeather1975 Год назад
Hello Steve Great job troubleshooting 🤩👍
@trackman515
@trackman515 Год назад
In the old days I use to ohm the windings.
@DEW409
@DEW409 Год назад
Looks like you are energizing two speeds at once, which will burn out the motor. The fan really is spdt, and should send power to either the bonnet fan control or directly the blower high terminal for ac. That way you can turn on fan from the thermostat when heat is on without destroying the motor. Of course what you did will work, since you are just using one speed.
@stevenlavimoniere
@stevenlavimoniere Год назад
problem is there is 2 seperate tsats for this unit .. that is going to be adressed next . it should have one . been wired like this for 30 years
@MikeMcCue849
@MikeMcCue849 Год назад
GREAT VIDEO STEVE, VERY INFORMATIVE
@craigs3183
@craigs3183 Год назад
Cluster F pain in the A . Good call getting the electrician to check out the main wiring.
@TomLawson05
@TomLawson05 Год назад
Steve that was a real head scratcher good job thanks for the video
@zackmax7184
@zackmax7184 Год назад
36 Amps is a lot unless that is a Heavy Duty Light Switch. I think a normal light Switch is for about 15 or 20 amps.
@1022hard
@1022hard Год назад
Great job Always Steve!
@JamesAgans
@JamesAgans 13 дней назад
I really feel for you service guys with all the Chinesium parts coming onto the country.
@stevebrickley3295
@stevebrickley3295 Год назад
“I should have one of them in the truck.”
@picklerix6162
@picklerix6162 Год назад
Steve has a parts store on wheels. I never carried as many capacitors as he does and he carries some of the most obscure toilet parts that I have never heard of before.
@dexenationgracey1979
@dexenationgracey1979 Год назад
​@picklerix6162 You could make up a part that doesn't exist, and Steve somehow has it in the truck.
@sherwinalvarez7365
@sherwinalvarez7365 Год назад
​@dexenationgracey1979 😂Thats a fact.
@danwesten2771
@danwesten2771 Год назад
I'll bet Steve doesn't stock fusible links. They are old limit type devices that are mostly found on older boilers and gas furnaces.
@papaleos9360
@papaleos9360 7 месяцев назад
Imagine the hundreds of hours of drive time he has avoided over the years by having so many parts on the truck.
@KW86.
@KW86. 3 месяца назад
Awesome video. How many of us repair guys has balls to call electrician, we want to tare house down some of us
@user-ln5xi7xd8b
@user-ln5xi7xd8b Год назад
Steve,there is a squirrel in the cage MAMA
@electrickal1
@electrickal1 Год назад
That had the potential to cause a house fire!! An RCD or (GFI in north America) would have prevented a lot of those issues including allowing you to jumper the neutral to ground. I'm an electrical tech in a UK hospital and bypassing safety switches is a serious no no, they are there for good reason and should never be removed, bypassed or cheated. Death, fire or injury caused by those actions can be traced back and litigation taken against the person who modified the machine from it's design criteria, absolving the manufacturer of all blame. Be careful what you are doing.
@tonym6920
@tonym6920 Год назад
Hey Steve and Miss Molly! Workin’ again y’all. 👍👍. Miss Molly keeping an eye on Steve while working, lol
@eddymumford4086
@eddymumford4086 7 месяцев назад
getter done 👍👍
@adamdavies163
@adamdavies163 Год назад
Job satisfaction eh Steve? Always great to fix an awkward one.
@tim5158
@tim5158 Год назад
One to many hands working on that equipment , hopefully you got it.
@alnonymous9361
@alnonymous9361 Год назад
Energizing multiple speed taps will burn out a motor quick fast in a hurry. The fan cycle switch with limit is only supposed to energize the motor through the normally closed contact on the relay which will disconnect when cooling is calling, therefore it would be impossible to energize multiple speed taps at the same time unless it was miswired. NO! Don’t use ground as a neutral! Don’t trust fieldpiece. Do not bypass safeties, do not bypass door switch, that’s shake hands with danger. Usually you don’t want heating fan speed & cooling fan speed to be the same speed. Too low fan speed in cooling may freeze the evaporator, too high may not dehumidify enough causing mold & mildew. Too low fan speed in heating will overheat, too high in heating will cause condensation in the primary heat exchanger & quickly rust the heat exchanger making carbon monoxide potentially harming occupants.
@MrMultitool
@MrMultitool Год назад
Great job
@fanofoldfans9238
@fanofoldfans9238 Год назад
Steve, That was a great troubleshooting skills. 35 amps! Almost as if the motor was getting 240VAC instead of 120? That time/ temp limit switch is fried allowing power to the low speed and high speed windings... Great job
@electrickal1
@electrickal1 Год назад
Ohms law stipulates that voltage and current are inversely proportional to each other, so doubling the voltage would halve the current.
@fanofoldfans9238
@fanofoldfans9238 Год назад
Doubling the voltage would double the current! And because it's an inductive load it would more than double. @@electrickal1
@electrickal1
@electrickal1 Год назад
Apologies, you are correct. V=I times R and the power would quadruple because it's P=I squared R.@@fanofoldfans9238
@deanguando1335
@deanguando1335 Год назад
The wiring is really jammed into that small box.
@kevindean2016
@kevindean2016 Год назад
The black is common the red is normally open and brown is normally closed so when the relay is energized you will get power to the red wire
@vic5979
@vic5979 Год назад
Now that’s what I call rocket science!!
@kevindean2016
@kevindean2016 Год назад
Check the voltage with it running..................that will tell the story'
@frankchandler8005
@frankchandler8005 Год назад
I SEE MISS MOLLY AT THE HELM IN THE TRUCK. STEVE DO YOU BUY YOUR PARTS IN BULK ON LINE OR DO YOU GO TO THE SUPPLY HOUSE.
@kaib1125
@kaib1125 Год назад
this thing just missed you it wanted your attention again :D
@porky7753
@porky7753 Год назад
Steven, it's Labor Day weekend. Pick up a T-bone steak for Luna. lol
@rodneyskinner7741
@rodneyskinner7741 Год назад
Hello Steve!
@robertwojtowicz933
@robertwojtowicz933 Год назад
Good video, Steve 👍
@Ghq374
@Ghq374 Год назад
The electrical always get most of the guys. Steve knows his shit, not easy mama.
@gordonpotts753
@gordonpotts753 Год назад
Molly in the background. Lol.
@Joseph-jx8bl
@Joseph-jx8bl Год назад
I think a couple of my wires fried watching this post…….so it was basically getting double the juice and it cooked the motor etc?
@memyselfandifarmer
@memyselfandifarmer Год назад
Two power points going to the motor.
@jeffreywhitlatch1409
@jeffreywhitlatch1409 Год назад
A day in the life and the f'd up stuff you run into out there. It sucks frying a motor because of a bad fan control that probably fried the motor before it. Straight cool t-stat with heat and omit fan control. If enough wires and a 24volt gas valve, heat anticipator in it. Good YOB.
@BobSmith-mj7ik
@BobSmith-mj7ik Год назад
Good diagnostic skills. Anyone else would have just thrown a motor in it and walked away.
@richardsciranko3004
@richardsciranko3004 Год назад
Well didn't he do that with the first motor?
@SeersantLoom
@SeersantLoom 10 месяцев назад
Good idea to check current draw after motor replacement. I've seen at least couple of HVAC channel guys doing it regularly, just for assessing system health. They double check all the voltages and amps on all phases, compressors, fans, measure voltage differences on relays etc.
@billderby1527
@billderby1527 Год назад
Hard to tell because of your tape and camera didn't show clearly but I suspect you have wired up black from the motor to the 120v hot. This black wire from the motor is high speed. You then wired up the red wire from the motor to 120v from relay. This red wire is a lower speed. Attempting to run both high and low speed at same time is not good. The motor is off on internal overload. if you ever feel a motor and it's hot, cool it off before condemning . What we do know for sure is it is not the power switch as you have 120v to furnace. You always have to have panel on when checking amp draws otherwise the lack of static causes motor to draw over amps. Try just wiring up only white and black wire from motor of course the cap needs to be wired to. Then put on door and check amps.
@ntsecrets
@ntsecrets Год назад
Wow I wonder if all the issues in the past were due to that cycle switch?
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 Год назад
It's possible. I seem to remember at least another video where someone had a furnace that was repeatedly acting up and a very similar looking cycle switch was the issue.
@zunar_j5_933
@zunar_j5_933 Год назад
What a cluster F. Well done tho!
@josephcade3541
@josephcade3541 Год назад
That capacitor keeps the motor healthy otherwise it overheats and so does the wires
@priyajakatdar3759
@priyajakatdar3759 10 дней назад
Why replace the relay, bypass the door switch & try to fix a working connector without checking basic wiring? Perhaps I didn't get the point of the video.
@iamnoone.
@iamnoone. Год назад
Howdy Steve and Molly
@Mark.R_
@Mark.R_ Год назад
Signwriting on the new truck.
@bruce8572
@bruce8572 Год назад
I've seen that happen when it tries to run with 2 of the speeds are wired together..
@bashirmohamed7982
@bashirmohamed7982 9 месяцев назад
I would have tried switching the red to different color going to motor, see if it runs
@deanerbes5725
@deanerbes5725 7 месяцев назад
That's the problem with using 2 speeds and those old limits.
@williegillie5712
@williegillie5712 Год назад
Should of ran lol. Good sense of humor. But hey I knew you’d find the faulty furnace fan.
@cndream1
@cndream1 Год назад
Does the primary problem start with there being 2 thermostats . Too much monkey motion and gizmos to make it all work ??????? Why would you even have 2 thermostats any way ?????
@zackmax7184
@zackmax7184 Год назад
Get Your Tablet out and Sell Them a New System. Lol
@donhorn548
@donhorn548 Год назад
Good trouble shooting.
@kentbassler5037
@kentbassler5037 Год назад
Steve I didn't see you connect the motor shaft to the blower wheel ?
@stevenlavimoniere
@stevenlavimoniere Год назад
i did just trying to keep the video as short as possable
@zackmax7184
@zackmax7184 Год назад
Might have had a Fluffy Chewing on the wires.
@TheAnalystradioprogram
@TheAnalystradioprogram Год назад
Steve why don’t you have some kind of rig where it’s a plug with the other end spliced and you just hook up to the motor with the 120 direct to see if it spins? Then you don’t have to remove it to test.
@overwatch2671
@overwatch2671 Год назад
Its a pile of rudd, steve
@BritishEngineer
@BritishEngineer 11 месяцев назад
3:56 horrific wiring
@josephbradshaw5353
@josephbradshaw5353 Год назад
Most techs nowadays can’t do what you just did
@craigharding475
@craigharding475 Год назад
I wonder who monkeyed with that unit?
@vic5979
@vic5979 Год назад
Brain surgery at its best! You rock!!
@zackmax7184
@zackmax7184 Год назад
Sounds like a Leaka Momma.
@markpowell1031
@markpowell1031 Год назад
First comment yippee
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. Год назад
Hello all.
@KeepingitAnalog
@KeepingitAnalog Год назад
Great video Steve! That machine is defiantly a little queer.
@dannyharron1318
@dannyharron1318 Год назад
motor running on 2 speeds
@J-Colt
@J-Colt Год назад
Screw it, I'm first not edited either mama!
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 Год назад
Nope beat you by ten minutes
@Deion245
@Deion245 Год назад
@@tedbell4416 cap
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 Год назад
​@@Deion245zap
@eddymumford4086
@eddymumford4086 7 месяцев назад
what a mess
@dannyg1809
@dannyg1809 Год назад
So I say this with the utmost sarcasm, I thought you were a licensed plumber not a licensed electrician 😅 So your telling me, one teacher could walk by and turn on AC unit, another teacher could get cold and walk by and turn on heat? Unbelievable 😅
@mikehouser5430
@mikehouser5430 Год назад
Warranty?
@gregdemars2751
@gregdemars2751 Год назад
Hello You need 240 voltage run the replacement the motor good luck Bee safe
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 Год назад
240 241 whatever it takes
@stevenlavimoniere
@stevenlavimoniere Год назад
its a 110 motor,,, most gas furnaces have 110 motors
@dong4617
@dong4617 Год назад
I don't think a 240 motor would work without L1 and L2.
@gregdemars2751
@gregdemars2751 Год назад
@stevenlavimoniere Steve Sorry for my confusion you're Wright 110volt
@Deion245
@Deion245 Год назад
First
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 Год назад
Nope
@Deion245
@Deion245 Год назад
@@tedbell4416 yup
@J-Colt
@J-Colt Год назад
@@Deion245 Tedbell4416 got ya by 20 easy
@tedbell4416
@tedbell4416 Год назад
​@@J-Coltgot ya by 40 keep practicing though
@J-Colt
@J-Colt Год назад
@@tedbell4416 You da man Ted!
@frankrizzo3915
@frankrizzo3915 Год назад
Hello Steve!
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