You CAN fix frosting! Small time custom painter here. I hate to tell you this after you fixed it, but maybe you can spread this info to the greater community. Aerosol sprays are solvent based. Meaning they can re activate the previous layer. Frosting is caused by improper curing (typically humidity above 50%) what you need to do is re varnish, in an environment conducive to proper curing. So here's what you do, take tge frosted model and just keep it safa and clean until you are certain that the humidity is below 50% (I've found you can wait up to 5 days and this will still work) check the weather on the net. Once you have arrived, take that same spray, and place it in a bowel of warm water. (Shower temper is fine.) Once the can stays warm after shaking, it's ready to go. Head out side and give the frosted model a good all around spray. If the sun is out, leave it in the sun. If not, bring it in abd put it under a heat lamp. I've yet to have this fail me
Came here to say the same thing. I've used that same spray plenty. The only time it has failed me was on especially humid days (I live in Louisiana, so we get plenty of those), and I've never had it fail when I reactivated it with a second spray on a less humid day.
I've also heard a gloss coat and a reapplication of the matte works to fix frosting. I have the UV protection version of the matte finish that Wyloch used and have had some frosting issues, but not as bad as in this video.
Since you have no reservations about using your airbrush I highly suggest the Vallejo Mecha clear coats for airbrush. Good out of the bottle, and they are acrylic. The matte is the most matte thing I've found that isn't the now impossible to find Testors Dull Coat.
God testors dull cote, I have two bottles one I’ll probly never use. Don’t know how much shipping is to Canada from us but I’d almost send it to you because I’ll have it for a long time and don’t know how long it lasts.
I use the Vallejo matte as well. Had someone at a hobby shop suggest and sell me some Testors dull coat and it frosted on me. Luckily, I tried it on a test model. Can went in the garbage.
Wow, so much is going on in this video! A new hobby rabbit hole, a technical fail then determined recovery AND a STORAGE idea for the new models! Such value! This may be the push that I needed to start down this very rabbit hole. Also, I've found burnt sienna to work well for rust effects.
Had this "frost" happen before. Matte varnish tends to be me more finicky. Usually humidity is to blame, being more likely to cause issues with matte. Best solution I've found is to hit it with gloss varnish over the frosted matte. Then come back when conditions are best and apply matte over gloss.
Never seen your channel or this game before (I’m a 40K player) really glad this popped up on my feed. Awesome video, loved the content, looking forward to binging the rest of your channel this weekend.
All hail the You Tube algorithm gods. And here I thought you were doing a special Canadian Edition of Gaslands! I thought those looked awesome frosted! Real Alberta Rockies edition...
OMG! Wyloch doing Gaslands! Best day ever! Love that more and more youtubers start to dabble in Gaslands. Would love to see some terrain in 1:64 scale - Wyloch style
I recently rewatched Fury Road…ever since then I’ve been eyeballing my sons hot wheels…the urge is strong and this video didn’t help. 😂 Love the rust effects using the craft paints. The blue roadster is definitely my favorite, reminds me of the vehicle Nux drives in which he hitched Mad to the front of. Fun video Bill. 🤘
@@WylochsArmory Heh, funny you mention Terminator, these days somebody rekindled my interest on the wargame and have been eyeing the pieces of my Pile of Shame relevant to it
My fave is also the red one. The only thing I'd change is drilling out the barrel of the gun, adding some carbon scoring around the front of the gun and some on the hood. Thanks for doing this video, I have 5 or so Hot Wheels waiting for me to have time to make a terrain piece. The paint part will help me! Great job Bill!
Finally! Somebody added orange to their rust! So much rust-effect is just shades of brown, but old iron rust is beautifully vivid orange. This looked pretty nice. My only suggestion on future cars would be to give them some more character like some car names and WWII fighter shark face. Of course a Mad Max hippie can would be excellent.
I have had that frosting happen on minis to me as well. Seeing some competent fixes for this in the comments, I'll skip repeating them. What I have done to avoid it completely is I bought some Vallejo Mecha Varnish, thinned, through the airbrush. They make both matte and gloss, so I keep a tiny bottle of each thinned with some airbrush thinner and airbrush medium and just varnish my finished models indoors. Granted, I am avoiding the root cause of the issue (humidity/temp) by airbrushing them indoors, but this is the solution that has worked for me. Living in the Midwest means i can see some long stretches of high humidity days in the summer. Great video. Thanks!
I enjoyed that more than I thought I would.. I cannot believe you doubled down on them.. insanity. The end result was worth the cost in time though. I will be stoked to see the mesh windows and printed parts on round 2 :)
Excellent job and great inspiration. I’m doing something similar but for ‘Black Ops,’ using vehicles for scenery. I’ve had frosting issues occasionally too. I’ve been able to rescue/reverse it in a couple of ways. The simplest method is to use Agrax or Nuln over the whole model. Works fine if it’s just terrain. Otherwise you can try a coat of gloss varnish. Once it’s fully set you can retry the matt. Look forward to seeing more, particularly scratch built weapons.
Nice to see another channel giving Apple Barrel some love. Not many people know that Apple Barrel Paint though cheap is made by Plaid who make Mod Podge and Folk Art Paints among other things. Apple Barrel is just their cheaper line but still good.
I kinda liked the frosted look. It looked like desert dust but I can totally understand why it was frustrating. I would have been so mad. It always happens at the last step too.
You picked up gaslands?? Wow, this has come full circle for me now. I watch your stuff to get inspiration for building gaslands projects. Hope you enjoy the game!
Excellent!! Back in the 90's during that decade's Hot Wheel craze, modders were using easter egg die to tint the bodies of their cars. Made for some very day-glow effects. There was a modder near LAX who used to hand paint hood murals on Hot Wheel 49 Mercury cars.
Other people have already commented on ways to get rid of frosting. I just want to mention some issues I've had with Vallejo weathering. Don't get me wrong: these are absolutely fantastic products. However, they seem to have a weird interaction with varnishes that I think comes from whatever is used as a binder for the pigment. In my experience, it seems like varnishing mediums can reactivate the product and make it turn into a mess as it mixes all together. To get around this, you have to use gel medium mixed in with the Vallejo product as you're applying it. Then, go back over and use thin layers of pure medium to seal the surface after you've finished painting the model. Once you have a nice, clear layer acting as a barrier, you can then go back in with varnish. I'm not sure if that's what was specifically going on here, but I wanted to point it out just in case anyone was having this issue and found none of the other methods here solved anything.
You, are the best. This is not just the best gaslands tutorial / guide / video, but I think one of the best hobby guides on youtube. Thank you for sharing this. ESPECIALLY the speed-paint segment, it's all just very inspiring.
Scratch build machine guns: q-tip sticks/tooth pick sticks/small dowels for barrels, sprue for the receiver assembly, bit of dowel for ammo can. Wrap the dowel in a cut plastic straw so it looks like it feeds into the receiver assembly. If the gun and is large enough, you can use a bit of small zip for the ammo feed: the ridges look like bullets. Add extra bits as desired. Welcome to Gaslands TV! Choose your sponsor and race to the death for your adoring fans on Mars!
Gaslands is an amazing game. Fairly low of the crunchy scale and fun regardless of win or lose. As long as something explodes in an epic crash, everyone wins! Would also love for you to do some Gaslands Terrain. I am always looking for new and better ideas.
This video is fantastic, sir. We use Vallejo matte varnish. Thin it down with water and do 2-3 coats. Takes a little longer but no chance of any frosting dramas.
Pro tip: you can fix varnish frosting by applying glossy varnish over it(either by brush or sprey) and then just go over that with clear acryllic paint medium to matte it back down
After a matt varnish the car 'Frosted' over... The effect looked epic! Like a dessert waist landscape with Arctic klimate... I think I like them more with the frost
I had the same thing happen to me with the krylon, except in my case I sprayed about 40 terrain tiles at once. Although risky as hell I just did a quick brush over with paint thinner and it mostly killed the frost. A friend recommended army painter anti-shine and despite living in a swamp I have yet to have that problem again.
Gaslands was always something I saw thrown around as a potential game around here, and I certainly had debated it over time. The shop's been working on getting even more tabletops in so hopefully this is something I'll put to use in future -b
I used to paint hundreds of models. That primer really sticks so I've always just skipped clear coats. I toss my cars aroused, they have moved over and over. They look great over all! Clear coats are optional, and scary... Don't ever be afraid to give something try again! I've come back to cars over and over. You learn stuff and fix things or totally redo it! It's all about the fun ❤
Hot tip when that happens hit it with gloss coat that will clear it up must be the same medium (enamel on enamel etc.). It really works. Then flat with the opposite acrylic in this example.
Given the size, scale model ship kits would probably be a source of all sorts of weapons (says the guy who may or may not have done this way back in the day when playing the original Steve Jackson's Car Wars)
Awesome car conversions. And a sheriffs car to come, I hope you can keep it as close to the original as you can; a post apoc cop car would look awesome.
Yeah, I've had that frosting thing happen to a few minis...some Space Marine leaders and a space station. Was really proud of the work done on them, all the little details, then just crushed afterward when it dried with the frosting effect. Oof.
Really hope this gets more interest in Gaslands for people. Due to the beverage bug ive only really been able to play it once but I had a ton of fun. I still enjoy making new cars for the future.
I believe you can fix frosting with olive oil, a hairdryer, and matte medium? I'd have to do more research but I think that's right. However: Super awesome video Wyloch! Great techniques and intro to conversions!
They look great but the VW and the green truck are my favorites. I have had the same issue you had with clear coats too. Weather and temperature can cause that effect and sometime it may just be a bad can of paint. Vallejo makes a great Matt coat and the Rust-oleum 2X Paints are very good. Thanks for sharing this and I am looking forward to more Gaslands tutorials.
Excited to see you pick up Gaslands. I like making the cars almost as much as playing. That's a lie. I enjoy the fabrication more, channeling my creativity.
A lot of the time with the frosting, you can go with a thin coat of a brush on varnish to get rid of it. Same thing as with some issues with frosting due to superglue with things or small scratches.
As I said on Reddit! Really glad to see you joined the Gaslands Train!!! I NEED more Videos from this Game from you!!! Terrain like Gates and Barriers, and MOAR! :D Also wanna see you tackle some of the "Sponsor" Vehicles...
I am a commission painter and varnish of all sorts does this eventually. At first, it's terrifying, but you can heavily mitigate the disaster with olive oil by using it to work the frosted areas very slightly and slowly. Slow and steady definitely wins the race here. It doesn't fix it 100% if you hold it up to scrutiny but it has worked well enough where no one has noticed on the three or four occasions I've saved a commission. Give it a try. :)
Really cool video. Been thinking about Gaslands for some time now. Haven't played it, but can't help but be reminded of the old Steve Jackson game Car Wars. I've had the frosting issue myself. As I see others commented, it is fixable. Still very aggravating after hours of work though. I tried to make my own version of multicam on one of my sniper rifles. After days of work I hit it with matte varnish. Almost lost my mind when it frosted. Some on line research and I learned weather conditions were the likely culprit. Varnished it again inside for better temperature control the next day. The second and third coats of varnish removed the frosting in the first coat.
One cool effect i found to be easy and looks awesome is to paint the windshield dirty brown and then let it dry. Once it is dry take acetone and a very small piece of cloth and wipe away 90% of the dirt from the windshield starting from the middle. The cool thing about this is it will look like the dirt was wiped from the windshield all the while making it transparent through the middle if the plastic is clear on the hotwheels car!
Sometimes applying another coat of varnish over the frosted coat will fix the issue. I've also heard olive oil can fix frosted varnish, but I've never tested it myself.
if you can figure out how to scratch build machine guns rockets and miniguns and stuff without it being just a 2d cutout on cardboard, i think a lot of gaslands players in the decisively poor section would appreciate it
I am brainstorming some ideas for my next cars video. At a glance: take seven toothpicks and bundle them together, and glue a very thin strip of paper around to hold them together. Now you have a minigun. Take a mechanical pencil (the cheap black Bic ones with the colored clips) and chop off the first inch or so. Now you have a big ass missile.
@@WylochsArmory My favourite machine gun materials are plastic-coated paperclips and plastic-shafted cotton swabs. You get dozens for pennies and they make nice, hollow weapon barrels. I got lucky and found the paperclips fit perfectly inside the swab shafts, so I could make a shrouded MG barrel fairly easily You could probably do the minigun bundle with the paperclips: I prefer them for their straightness, stiffness, and easy adaptability. Slide the plastic up for a barrel, slide the plastic back to form a center lug for the minigun. Rockets? Swab shafts cut to length and glued in a row, tiny paperclip bits to seal the back end. Or wrap a wooden toothpick in paper, glue in a row if you like more than a suggestion of rockets Quick window armour: staples. Use some small pliers to crack three or four off the rack, trim them to size with wire cutters. A bit more involved than cereal box cardstock, but a pretty nice texture.
Missiles: small dowels, sharpen point with hobby knife or pencil sharpener. Rocket holder: plastic straw that is just bigger than the dowel - cut and glue accordingly to size. Make as many as you want, and glue side by side on car (start middle, work outward to maintain symmetry). If you can find used, trashed Wago electric wire connectors, there is your launcher, just add missiles. You can also use plastic coated paper clips glued together to make a mini gun barrel assembly, then cut small plastic straw that it fits into to form the cylinders that connect the barrels - one on each end (two total) and glued to a receiver and ammo assembly (see my post above about machine guns).
Also just realized that mini clothes pins (wooden ones), that can be found in the dollar store, the slanted bit would be a good angle for mounting missiles on.
if you have a hobby store in your town, check and see if they have boxes/bins of bits for sale. I got a whole armory of weapons like that. With a little casting you can make even more bits too, for pretty damn cheap.
17:24 I have seen how the thoughts went from Metal Machines bring not usable at all, to Poison Ivy being one of the most used cars for Gaslands builds! It's exaggerated proportions lend themselves very well going from GW stuff. I do really like that green truck with a massive engine though, there's something about it's cabin that just melts my heart a bit.I would swap the rear wheels for something less flimsy-looking tho :P
Thanks for the video. Sorry you didnt have any luck with air paints. I will say I do love the air ready paints that I have tried. Especially Metal Color from Vallejo. I like the army painter air and the Vallejo model air also.
Awesome seams like all my favorite table top RU-vidrs are getting into gaslands now we need to get black magic craft miscast and miniac to make some gaslands builds and maybe a few others like jazza
