Gates of Hell - DESPERATE Building of Soviet Defense Line to Stop German Retreat 

Question: can infantry trigger AT mines? Logically yes but they could be designed to only go off when a certain amount of weight is placed on them. Have you thought about starting your own RU-vid channel and calling it "military grade guide to constructing defensive positions"?

@@dionwoollaston5717 :) Not yet i haven't since I'm hardly an expert in military matters. I can only speak from what i've experimented in Company of Heroes and Men of War. In the aforementioned titles, AT mines could only be triggered by vehicles the same way AP by infantry.

Rares Matei could have fooled me, your entire explanation sounds like it was straight out of a military manual on defensive positions

@@dionwoollaston5717 Thinking about it, have you played Hearts of Iron? In one of the land doctrines, there's a tactic called "defence in deep" - a counterpart to schwerpunkt (concentrated attack). Thus, the defenders permit the advance of the enemy only to outmaneuver, outgun and overwhelm on their own grounds and terms. This was done by Manstein on the Eastern Front in late Operation Fall Blau. It's all really intuitive when I think about it. I've read on some forums that some gamers learned and put into practice aviation doctrines and techniques from ww2 in games like WarThunder - their efficiency increased exponentially.

thats dumb

Only frontal hull armour had 80mm rest together with turret was 50mm

It also has twin MG34s instead of MG13s

I was shocked to see a panzer IF show up, that was cool to see

F is the production series for the chassis, not the tank itself, though that doesn't really make you wrong because everything from the Panzer II to the Stug III was on the AusF chassis. That isn't an quite F1 variant though, you can identify the F1 Variant by its distinctive fat nosed 75mm KwK37 Cannon, the thing mowing him down is an AusF. II/C Dak which is on a Panzer II chassis. Unfortunately in reality it was outclassed heavily and vulnerable to even light anti tank rifles with its flat facing 30mm armor plates and its design was abandoned by 1943. It never saw action on the eastern front, so he probably could have just shot it with an an AT rifle if its armor was modeled correctly.

@@DirtyWorkzNL Even with that flat 80mm could not survive the barage of ATs at that distance let alone 50mm. But the more modern the game, the more arcadie it gets.

You're absolutely right my friend. Dodging MG-42's, mortars, and also blowing up the barbed wire with bangalores. (Bangalore is also the name of a modern city in India)

I think mods in general are going to be legendary. Can't wait for multiplayer too. just imagine frontlines mode.

What is it “D-day”?

@@user-qi3hz4oh7r are you for real...

@@jon8727 so explain me

The timer for the next wave ran down too 0 and caused the explosion, so the AT gun was ready for the approaching tanks

Hahahhah

Yeah this guy play games like this for a long time but stil play as a beginner..

Pretty sure it's the same company just on a better engine

Bro, there was a sale of time stones in aliexpress. You missed it out. 🤣

Yes correct.

I don't see this mission either. Just downloaded the game. Where is it?

Hell ywa I wanna know too when this comes out lemme know! I need people to team up with on defense missions

Class of 84 ring knocker, First Gulf War and Cold Warrior veteran real world. Remember when we read duffer's drift as part of MS 101? That being said, how about we identify the problem and offer a solution. Raptor- have watched your videos for years. Good entertainment and good teaching of game mechanics. I have watched your videos for Men of War, MoWAS2, Rob's realism mods and many of the DLCs. That being said, in the defense you want to control the battlefield via your deployment and obstacle plan forcing him to engage your strengths in advantageous a way as you can. I am disposing of as much military jargon as possible below so no one need troll me on my description of the principles in FM 100-5. The jargon may have changed since the cold war but the principles remain the same. Based on what I viewed you might consider using the tank obstacles to make the tanks weave through them in your AT field of fire, enabling flank shots 1)avoid direct engagement thus increase the survivability of the piece 2) increases the chance of penetration and kills 3) decrease the forward speed of the attack thus enabling more time for engagement. Make them weave by creating a herringbone with your obstacles on the main avenue of approach (the road) and force them into the herringbone by setting up a continuous set of obstacles out on the right flank (do this first). Use all available infantry (not digging foxholes) to place the AT mines (use all available) in groups of 6-8 along/parallel to the road to destroy vehicles as they are funneled inward thus decreasing the use of your AT gun (keeping it hidden and supplied) for only the toughest vehicles and the engage with flank shots. Deploy the AT rifle forward since it will only be of use in the early game to engage recon vehicle, again allowing you one gun to remain hidden as long as possible. In this case taking out the halftrack during the probe. One game mechanic I am not sure of is if you can use the 45mm shells that will not go in the gun in concert with the anti -personnel mines to create additional anti-tank minefield like was the option in the original men of war game. Next, based upon your AT plan, place your infantry positions to 1) protect your AT from engagement by infantry (this may be why crews are abandoning guns) 2) defend the position/flag 3)cover mine field to prevent detection or removal by engineers 4) cover secondary avenues of approach to prevent bypass or encirclement. Minimum infantry at each location or if more is available 2/3rds of your force. It is better to have five dug in positions that are cover the same area with fire than it is to have one position with 5 infantry in it. Harder to suppress and usually means when one soldier is suppressed the rest can fire. Also, as the AI switches to engage different positions it's accuracy is lower than if is focused on one position. Trench is better to survive direct fire by tanks but again you want to have several in the area mutually supporting each other. Finish these defenses if necessary between attacks starting from the front working your way out and back. For this map I would try to secure the AT gun with a couple trenches then work on the river/left with foxholes before the first attack. Then I would build build depth into the right side so that you could protect your AT gun, and plan for a place to displace the gun at least once between attacks. As for anti-personnel obstacle, place your wire to make them move into your minefields and away from cover. Thus the priority hear would be to place the wire on the left/river side since the right side with no cover would easily be repelled Place your wire far enough in front of your position so that you can not be engaged with grenades but within range that you can use direct fire to engage them as they try to breach the wire or minefield. Lastly, organize about 1/3 of your force as a reserve and move it to the prepared positions as it is apparent how the attack will unfold (this is a little easier when the fog of war is turned off) Include a medic in the force(rest is infantry), and a tank, armored car if available and micro the heck out of it. Use this same force to counterattack/cleanup the battle field from surviving attackers to reduce the ammo wasted by AI continuing to shoot at threats it can not reach/kill creating resupply issues for the main attacks. So to summarize 1)AT plan of engagement 2) AT Obstacle plan 3) Dig in Infantry to protect AT 4) Dig in infantry to deny strongpoint/flanking/encirclement 5) Obstacle plan to control the movement of enemy infantry into infantry kill zones 6)Organize a reserve and contingency plan for how you will deploy it for each zone. As complex as this all is, this is why I think the developers of next generation of RTS military games should allow you a preview on the map you are working on so that you can plan all this out on the map before you are in execution mode with the counter running. What would be especially helpful would be the ability to mark the map with doctrinal symbols before you start with the timer/execution so you would have the equivalent of a military map with the plan embossed on an overlay. On a side note from watching one of your other videos, I believe where they are going with the medical collection point is similar to Age of Empires III where by moving a casualty to the location it will heal the soldier. This means if you place the medical collection point in a covered and concealed position one terrain feature behind the front that even if your medic dies you can still heal your soldiers until it is destroyed by other soldier carrying the wounded to the point. Hopefully they are also figuring out how to allow a wounded soldier to be put in a vehicle since this is how it is commonly done as opposed to carry to the rear. I am on the public Beta so can not try it out myself. I have been playing the beta for a week plus and am trying to complete the absolute zero defense with no casualties. Right now I am down to 3-5 men on most playthroughs. Again Raptor, thanks for your years of support for the RTS games and mods. I have played MoWAS2 for about 3500 hours and have watched your videos hundreds of times. The way you illustrate the game controls and walk viewer through the approaches I am sure has contributed to the popularity of the games. And to my fellow ring knocker, maybe we should organize a multiplayer team among interested grads so we can apply the doctrinal lessons ourselves. My only worry here would be that we would be monitored by the Chinese and Russians to for the specific purpose of building AI to defeat our standard doctrine. Best wishes to all in the RTS community.

@@cptmike6972 I was just making a meme capt mike. That being said, thank you for your services on the field, and off like here today. Great points made. Capt mike is absolutely right.

@@clemfandango3925 Sorry I took it too literally, I had hopes of meeting other gamers with RTS interest and doctrinal background. Hopefully I will come across either others with the same background or multiplayer groups that are interested in using doctrine to complete campaigns with minimal casualties. Tough being an old fart and a gamer at the same time. Thanks for the well wishes.

@@cptmike6972 do you play strategy games? I would enjoy seeing a video demonstrating am in-depth view of defensive works from your study. Games I would suggest is call to arms - gates of hell, Steel division, and combat mission series.

no buy the game off steam

@@Peter-rl4nc Whats the game called

@@nicksgaming9648 call to arms gates of hell. Its a standalone expansion mod from the game call to arms. You need to own call to arms to download this demo for free.

@@vicenteasaro1823 okay thxs

Its called Call to Arms and this a DLC for it

Yes

@@LxrdGhxulProductions POG

I like when he narrates, cuz he is cool, and calm about his content.

And hilarious 😆

Lol and informative👍

Yep, they can.

No a DLC for Call to Arms