The expression is "why buy the cow when you're getting the milk for free?" This expression was usually used in the past to discourage women from giving away their romantic or sexual favors too easily or without commitment from their partner. I recently saw an amusing expression for modern women who don't want to get married: "Why buy the entire pig just to get a little sausage?" 🤣
Persevere and you will eventually find your life partner/ husband, Keven! I met my husband 6 years ago and we live in a more rural part of West Virginia. 😆
I lived in Kendall for 7-8 years before apps. There are things I noticed that possibly could be addressed in a follow up. I am Anglo, and the cultural divide was great between my tiny island of English language and the vast continent of Spanish language. I found that Spanish speakers preferred to go to Spanish language drag bars where I was unable to keep up or sometimes mingle. Certainly many of these men were bilingual, but I couldn’t fit in with their choice of venue. You mentioned that Miami Beach/Miami is a place of appearances. I was not at the bars that often, but I frequently saw gym rats connect (likely on a physical level alone) and less modelesque guys ignored and alone all the way home. When I lived in Portland, ME, a small city, the egality was refreshing. The Native American guy was with a twink. I kissed a Colombian guy, an Israeli guy. The bartender was chubby and owning it, etc. Substance was more weighty than appearance. Certainly the app culture found a fertile garden in Miami Beach/Miami.
That is so interesting that you found more egality in Maine of all places! Personally I find Miami very diverse - it's the most diverse community of friends I've ever had. Almost everyone speaks at least 2 languages. But yes, Miami, like many other major cities in the US, is very image-focused.
Keven, for me, respect is fundamental and non negotiable on the same level as good personal hygiene and not having bad breath. The expectation that anyone who engages needs to come correct or not all is an important boundary that shouldn’t be compromised for any reason whatsoever. Kudos and I can’t wait to see what’s next in your journey.
Keven.... it seems no matter where you are gay dating is hard period. What is sad is nothing has changed over the years but the technology and the way to meet others. I personally had nothing but bad experiences when I tried in the past. All people want to do is meet someone and connect with someone. If people were honest with their intentions, things might be different. It also goes back to how people handle things. I personally do not want to come between someone or get involved in a situation. There is also the health aspect as well. It is so much. I hope you can meet someone that will suit you and fulfill you. You deserve it. Thank you for the video today. You take care Keven.
I remember twist and sugars.... and in FTL I sure do miss the Copa. those were the good days back in the early -mid 90's and early 2000's..... sidenote: if I know someone is married I don't want no parts of that...I believe in karma and folks are crazy nowadays too...and other party may hurt or kill someone...that's gay or straight people.
Interesting to hear your experience here in the 305(or 786, Lol!)! Each and everyone has a different experience in Life but I want to comment on my experience with Cubans and other Central/South Americans. In my experience the Cubans that arrived in the early 90's to Miami are super open to their sexuality, as a matter of fact most of them are open with their families and their families are okay with it. However, the Cubans that arrived in the 60's and then 80's were not as open and many were closeted. With Central and South Americans because their cultures are still very "straight" back at home and many come and visit or live for a short while they have the double lives. As I mentioned to you in another video back in the 90's when there were more Gay Clubs on Miami and Miami Beach one saw a revolving door of gay men engaging here and that was at a time where there were no hooking up apps. Thank you for all the content you make and again much success to you in Life! P.S. I did live in Miami Beach and many buildings at max are three stories high and were built in the 30's- 50's.
Interesting. You'd be surprised to hear this but I've met Cubans in my own age group who are definitely still a part of that downlow culture. Sadly, it's still very prevalent.
@@KevenTalks I cannot discard what you experienced but a thought crossed my mind and wanted to share it with you. In the Gay community there seems to be this morbid thought of fucking a straight guy that is "super hot" and exciting. So, what if what you have come across is a deliberate plot/behavior since it seems that it turns on a lot of us gay man, just a thought.
I am gay and was in the for a surgery in University of Miami and the nurse was homophobic and whispered to the night nurse that I was “homosexual” like in the 1950’s. The night nurse told me she said this because we had talked and she was nice and I was appalled. Needless to say I followed up with the hospital and she was fired. Miami is not as progressive as people think. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone.
That's crazy indeed - especially in the healthcare field - those individuals are supposed to have higher empathy and really care ultimately about the well-being of patients, not their identity, etc. It's worth mentioning that the University of Miami is in the suburbs of Miami, in a super Cuban part of town (Coral Gables). I have found that consistently, Cubans in Miami are VERY old-school and conservative, etc.
I am 67 yo,I lived in South Florida all through the 80's Then Ft. Lauderdale was the bomb. It was rocking with gay bars. Miami not so much. In the late 80's a subdued South Beach, with kind of a sleepy retirement vibe was discovered with the opening of the Warsaw Ball Room. That's when the migration to South Beach began. Ft Lauderdale in the 80's was a gay paradise. The energy was amazing.
Hi Keven, I think the saying you were thinking of is "Why Buy the Cow when you can get the Milk for free". I saw an older video of yours made about a year ago. In it you were talking about a guy you saw while out jogging and you connected eyes with him but I never saw any video updating whether the 2 of you got to connect eventually. Did I miss it or do you have any updates?
OMG I still see biker boy (that's what I call him lol) ALL the time but we have yet to talk! It's always a smile we exchange while I'm running and he's biking - and it always happens so fast! One of these days...one of us will have to stop and make the first move!
I've never been to Florida but after hearing Ron desantis talk about don't say gay bill I definitely wouldn't want to live there but I have seen pics and videos of how beautiful the beaches and waters look that have changed my mind about Florida
Keven, I love your videos. I always find them informative, interesting and entertaining. You have an incredible look. The Turkish side of you is very appealing and attractive. I went to NYU so like you, I lived in NYC for about a decade and therefore can relate to a lot of what you say. You’re great!
I've visited Miami and Miami Beach a number of times and while I really enjoy both cities, I could not imagine dating there! I'm happily partnered and I love my quiet, suburban life. I hated dating when I was actively doing it! It was awful, and I live in a very gay-accepting/progressive city in the Northeast. I was very fortunate to connect with someone who has similar intrinsic values to me. I honestly think you can't force dating, and if a connection happens, it happens. I have met a number of very nice gay men in Miami/Miami Beach, but they are definitely not in the "scene." I agree there is a lot of the machismo and compartmentalization in Miami/Miami Beach. There is a huge amount of guilt and shame in the Catholic church, and that is hugely prevalent in Latine cultures. The most personable and sociable gay men have been in San Francisco, in my experience. Are there meetup groups in your area oriented toward gay professionals? I thought that was a really nice way to connect with decent gay men when I was single and actively seeking connections with guys. I don't get the impression Miami has many of those, though.
I think the expression you meant was "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free." Also, you have a beautiful expressive approachable face, and I see the hair on your chest peeking out, which is intriguing, haha ❤❤❤❤❤ New Orleans :-)
I think your machismo argument is true, lot of Latino guys are discreet. One time at this gay bar a Latino guy confidently approached me on dance floor and told me I was so cute and started dancing right next to me. When I wanted to kiss, he was like no I don’t want to, and the interaction pretty much ended there. Looking back do you think there was some machismo DL thing here or what? Still can’t figure out his mindset in that interaction
Ugh, aren't those situations so frustrating? It's like 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards. I wouldn't even try to analyze it, Jacob - there are a million possibilities, none of which have anything to do with you :)
Miami Beach is a gay city but not the City of Miami itself. Downtown Miami, Wynwood and Brickell district in the city of Miami do have a gay population though. Miami and Miami Beach are two separate cities. Miami, Doral, Hialeah, North Miami Beach, Aventura, Miami Gardens, Coral Gables, Pinecrest, Homestead and other cities in Miami-Dade County aren't so gay friendly like Miami Beach. Most people visit Wynwood, Miami Beach and Aventura.
@@KevenTalksNo problem. I love your channel. You should visit Tampa Bay (Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Wesley Chapel & Lakeland), Siesta Key, Orlando, Naples, Cape Coral/Fort Myers, Jacksonville, Gainesville, Tallahassee, Destin, Panama City Beach, Pensacola, West Palm Beach and Boca Raton. Most gays who move to Florida move to Miami Beach, Wilton Manors, Fort Lauderdale, Key West, Orlando, Tampa, Saint Petersburg and Clearwater.
A lot of this reminds me of my time in Hollywood. I was seeing a guy who was really nice but worked a lot. Later on I figured out that he was with someone else. He replied "I have a girl but I love 🍑". SMH I was hit on by a lot of Russians and Eastern Europeans in Miami Beach. A lot of it is location dependent. I met a sweet pilot in Coral Gables but I wasn't in the relationship mindset and he deserved someone who was prepared to build a life together. I later moved to NYC when Hell's Kitchen was the spot for the F boys and hustlers over a decade ago and fell into the same habits. I decided to do the opposite of what I usually did and ended up with a guy who was living in Jersey of all places. This fall will make 8 years. There's hope for everyone if I could settle down.
When did you live in Los Angeles? Why did you pick Miami? I would think it’s humid there and subject to hurricanes. With your face you should have little difficulty getting what you want.
I lived in LA in 2019. I had lived in Miami the summer of 2018 and missed it! So I came back in 2020 right before the pandemic. It's humid and hurricane-friendly for sure...but I love Miami :) Thanks for your kind words! 😘
Never heard from him again 🙃 The night of the date, I texted him after to say I had a great time, etc. He didn't respond until the next morning. 🫠 We exchanged a few messages and that was that, never talked again. At this stage in my life, I expect someone to be more proactive and communicative. No time for chasing around.
@@KevenTalks Oh darn. I guess that's just the way it goes, gotta find someone where you're mutually proactive. Surprised tho as it seemed there was a good amount of interest.
Sadly, the reality is that of finitude. Time spent on the body is time taken away from the mind and soul. Beauty on the outside often means a disappointing inside.
