This was amazing Ken thankyou for this. I'm now off on a venture to learn how to set the beat on a wall clock I recently acquired. I also discovered that there's a clock repair shop in my town, because I'm a retiree and have lots of "time" on my hands (pun intended) I'm going to see if they have an apprentice/volunteer opportunity rather than me spending thousands of dollars on tools to support a new hobby....Thanks again Bill (not sure why my profile name doesn't appear)