Philandros It is what it is. Acting itself only has to be believable in order for it to be good. To be honest, his voice isn't something I analyse because I tend to just let myself get into the character he's playing.
Honestly now that I think of it, they *are* really being imprisoned for eternity in the black hole. Anyone recall how time flows in a black hole? It almost doesn't, now imagine being on tap for 300 solar cycles.. Zod was right, the council of Kyptons are a pack of fools and hypocrites.
Most people believe that last "I will find him" was unnecessary, but I personally think that was Zod invoking defiance while facing what he presumed to be a fate worse than death.
unnecessary ?!?!?! mate, that part IS the scene.... its iconic and even made it to the trailer... its why we are all here.... to hear the General's promise, once again. 0:55
Seriously, this shit gives me chills every time I see if.. I LOVED Man of Steel.. If only he didn't kill Zod, And sent him away to the phantom zone so people didn't have to cry about him killing him...
So true, he’s actually the best dceu villain of all time, he’s got the best motive of why he’s done these terrible things. He considers himself a necessary evil because he was bred for only one purpose, to protect the people of krypton. He tries taking the survival of krypton into his own hands by killing one of the counsel members for dooming the planet, only the sort of leadership he’ll be giving is that of a dictator. He even tried to plead with jor-el to fight with him. He only wishes to get the codex so that he could keep the people of krypton and it’s legacy alive, but tries to kill jor-el for it. He actually feels bad that he killed jor-el, even admitting that there doesn’t come a day where his death doesn’t haunt him, but he is still compelled to kill him again if needed, because he’s doing what it takes even if drastic to save his race, he tries to terraform earth to make a new krypton in hopes to bring back krypton and his people. I honestly like this version of Zod more than the original movie zod.
@@walkingcubkid but it makes absolutely no sense why he would want to terraform a planet like Earth which already has billions of people, he could have chosen any number of lifeless planets. There was absolutely no reason at all why he would need to destroy Earth. Krypton itself was already destroyed, so his maniac rantings about ‘saving Krypton’ were just hiding his true actual intentions - which was to be supreme ruler over an alien race
Gotta love the fact the despite being on opposite ends Zod did respect Jor-El, and they agreed about the council being stupid and incompetent, but they chose different methods. Despite this, Zod still says: Jor-El was right, and that he agreed with him
Organic Giraffe yeah. One of the things that can be considered a flaw in the plot. But then again, the comic book told this story for decades and yet nobody made a critic back then
Dev N yeah...they were 'a pack of fools' indeed. But Jor-El did warn them, and somehow in the movie they seemed to accept it before Zod attacked the council chamber. Idk. Seemed a bit off for me.
Higher up's is a creepy place.... You would feel sorry for the folks who carry out orders for these master minds cause they never give you the reason for a mission, but just carry them out... Its even worse for common man/woman, cause they are treated like sheeps and cattles... The government is the best example, or a huge corporation... By the time you realize what is really happening and try to mitigate the damage, its already a lost cause... This is what has happened to this plot... This is what is happening to us for ages...
Michael Shannon did such a good job here, his fury is palpable. All his subordinates writhing in agony as they are incased, but he's so pissed he doesn't even flinch.
What makes Zod in this movie such a great villain, and certainly a much better villain than most alien invader-type villains, is his relatability. If you look at Zod's purpose objectively, all he wants to do is save his home and people from sure destruction by any means. If we humans drive Earth to destruction (which we are), then eventually, we will find many people like Zod, trying to save the world even through violence. Zod's death is truly a sad one. He wasn't a true "villain" as much as a martyr.
***** +Dwkim91 The world doesn't need saving. He was a madman who tried to kill 7 billion people just so a handful of his people didn't have to adapt to gaining super powers.
+Desidium it really doesn't, as you are asserting that he was not relatable and was nothing more than a madman who was killing for the sake of killing. When in fact he was killing so that he could bring back his people, granted with his programming and personality he decided to go about in the wrong way but that doesn't make his cause any less admirable, and him any less relatable. Also he wasn't just terraforming so that he could spare the billions of infants to come a little pain, he did it to prevent their potential deaths because if every infant was going to be born with respiratory problems then the odds are in favor of there being a massive infant mortality rate.
This scene is so powerful for many reasons, Faora Ul looking over at General Zod for strength from the leader to whom she follows and admires and also showing him that she too can withstand the imprisonment process. You can tell the words "you think your son is safe?!" Affected Lara tremendously you can see the apprehension in her face when she hears General Zod's threat because she knew his words held much weight. Lady Lara was in tears as the capsules flew away because of the threats and fear that Zod will find Kal. Hans Zimmer's score just captured every nuance of the actors so well. This movie is a masterpiece.
This is a serious question. Do these people know this worlds gonna die? Cause if so they should just keep him there with a gun to his head and go to the phantom zone themselves! Also yeah the art direction is really good.
@@keencow9659 the whole movie was so overdone, including the acting. Reeve, Kidder, Hackman, and Stamp were all superior in their roles. Remakes NEVER are better than the original.
I would honestly love a whole movie that took place on this krypton. All leading up to this scene. Showing Zod build up his support and finally the failed coup
Michael Shannon really knocked this out of the park. He was so much more complex & relatable as a character than Terrence Stampe's cartoonish portrayal. I loved Superman 2 as a kid as much as the rest of you, but let's be honest here- Go back and watch that movie again and you wouldn't be able to look me in the eyes and say with a straight face that Terrence Stampe's Zod had a genuine motivation. Stampe's Zod comes across as being a preening, arrogant aristocrat who has some bizarre fetish of wanting everyone he meets to kneel down. Thank God Michael Shannon came along and put the 'warrior' back into the character and showed Zod's real strength : his leadership. Imagine being this crew of surviving Kryptonians; how utterly hopeless it would all seem now in the wake of your planet's death. Zod kept them together and kept them focused, never allowing them to lose hope... for 33 fucking years! Alone. Stranded in space. For 33 years! Do you realize how easy it would have been to lose hope in that time or how easy it would have been to have your crew mutiny? Zod didn't. Zod kept them all together, focused, with no one onboard questioning his authority or judgement in all that time. That is something Terrence Stampe could never have done. I mean really- Could you imagine spending 33 years alone in space with that guy telling you what to do? Shannon's Zod never demanded subservience; he received it from his soldiers because he genuinely earned it. That's the mark of a true leader.
The difference in the two scripts (including tone) helped this Zod be much better, not soley acting skills I think.. Movies have come a long way since Superman II.
+Britton Thompson Although they were trapped in space for a long time, was it really 33 years from their perspective? The Phantom Zone distorts time and space which is why they looked like they didn't age a day, yet baby Kal-El grew into Superman during that time. That being said, your point still stands. Superman II is a classic but Man Of Steel gave us the better Zod
myhybrid09 Stamp was a cartoonish criminal, Shannon was a disgraced General who committed these evil acts under the belief that he was doing what he could to save his species. Shannon FTW.
+Britton Thompson This version of General Zod, genetically engineered to become a leader, a General, a protector of his world, That's all he was doing, To him he was rightly doing what needed to be done to preserve krypton. It's his way of life even though the planet was doomed, That's what led him to try over throw the current leadership because he thought that was key to Krypton survival, The two versions cannot really be compared really, Terrance stamp version is a product of it's decade, Cartoonish villain. while this version was brilliantly written and portrayed by Michael Shannon
+Abominatrix650 That would have been correct had they spent those 33 years in the Phantom Zone but they didn't. As seen in the movie the Phantom Zone prison machine was destroyed as soon as Krypton was, Zod even says that himself. Then they spent the next 33 years going from one Kryptonian outpost to another and salvaging what they could which is how they got the World Engine. They were trying to find a way to restore Krypton and only 33 years later after they were freed from the Phantom Zone and after Kryptons death, did they receive the message from the Scout Ship on Earth which was sent out when Supes activated it. Also, they do visibly age, atleast Zod does, since you can see the wisps of white hair on his beard when he reveals himself to Earth as compared to when he is freed from the Phantom Zone. For them 33 years might be more like 10 years since IIRC, Kryptonians do have longer lifespans than humans. So maybe that's why the rest of the crew doesn't look too aged, although even Faora's hairstyle changes and she does look like she went from 25 to 35 in Kryptonian years. Cheers from one MOS fan to the next! :)
When I watched this in the cinemas back in 2013 I think, this scene was the one that really gave me the goosebumps. The music, the visual and General Zods character. His determination regardless of how much mighty & painful force was used to keep him and his army away through damnation, it never effected his judgement. He fought for his belief till the end. He truly earned his place as a military general of krypton. It was also emotional for Lara as it was also farewell to her son who will carry the heavy responsibility and face the battle that is to come in the future.
Perfect cast for Zodd, love the intensity and passion he brings to the role. In his mind he's not an evil man. Just a soldier doing whatever he believes best to preserve his species. How can you not help admire and respect that dedication and ..love.
+Thomas O'Shea It could have been a brilliant film without all the wanton destruction at the end, if they added more color (literally), and if they let the characters (particular Clark Kent) develop more. Still a good movie.
Incredible acting that shows degree of dignity in each personality. Foara tries hard not to scream from pain in front of the councel. Zod from his facial expressions was trying to hide his pain behind his angry face. Challenge look from Lara to Zod while deep sadness for her husband and child was consuming her.
I still find it amazing that critics, especially rotten tomatoes, think that this movie is so mediocre, but then they praise a bland movie like Age of Ultron. Man of Steel is much better than Age of Ultron, and in my opinion was as good as any of the Iron Man movies.
+bobizzle1605 I once sat down and read all of the rotten reviews, and most of the negativity had nothing to with Man of Steel, but they were all about how since this is not Christopher Reeve, it's not good. There are legitimate criticisms to be sure, but the "Not Reeve = Bad" mentality is simply lazy.
+zhengyingli Exactly. I see that same criticism over and over, along with something like "Cavill is too emo!" Or "he's not acting like a cheerful Boy Scout enough he's too brooding!" Blah blah blah. It's like these people are ignoring the fact that this is meant to be a superman that grows over the course of the DCEU, that earns the trust and praise and respect of humanity over time along with the other heroes like Batman. And as a guy who never cared much for Superman and has always been a big batman fan, this movie made me like and understand his character even more, to the point where I'm actually going to be rooting for him in batman v superman to show the world just how much of a selfless hero he really is. This movie showed that despite his powers, he isn't perfect, and he's still quite flawed and therefore he has to earn the right to be this Boy Scout savior that everyone looks up to. I absolutely love that he is being built up this way. With all due respect to Christopher Reeve, may he rest in peace, this movie truly redefined Superman and it brought him even more fans than he had before. I've seen even huge batman fans say that they like him just as much now through this movie. At least the movie had a ton of depth and was inspiring, Age of Ultron was basically just a filler avengers movie that had a lot of boring moments and didn't get anywhere exciting until the last 10 minutes of the movie.
+Saitama I really don't understand the hate for MoS. I was scared off by reviews but I ended up watching it a week ago to get ready for BvS and I was blown away. It instantly was up there with Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Batman (1989), Captain America 2 and Iron Man as my favorite superhero movies. I think people just want to hate Man of Steel because they heard other people don't like it. Superman, Zod, and Jor-El were perfect.
The acting in this is a real masterpiece, a gem for sure. Michael is absolutley brilliant! I looked up the film today and I could’nt Belive he didn’t even ge nominated for this performance. The way he shakes his head at Lara gives me the shills. You don’t wanna get on this guy’s bad side. Thanks again to the uploader for sharing this
Underrated flick. Heart pounding, triumphant score, amazing visuals and cinematography, Michael Shannon's screen presence, creative action sequences, near spot on runtime, world building. If you can overlook SOME corny Chris Terrio dialogue and Henry Cavill's lack of command of an American accent.....this is a great flick.
and her loyalty to Zod. remember when Superman first meets Zod and she tries to verbally reprimand Superman to address him as General Zod? With Zod telling her its okay for his lack of decorum. it really ties in with the story arch of krypton beings that were bred this way for specific roles and duties. they all take it literally and it shows
You know, I've watched this movie at least a few dozen times and I never noticed that before. It's a subtle background kind of detail, but it's still a really cool one that adds to her character. Nice spotting.
blankerism Not to mention that Snyder cut out the fact that they were married at the last minute, due to not wanting to go into a deep background of her having an undying hatred of all men except for Zod. I do love how they showed off her combat skills since in the old comic, Faora was known to be unmatched in hand-to-hand combat by anyone.
blankerism No, but if you search information on Faora, it breaks down who she was and Snyder mentioned on a podcast about changing them being married. I'll try to find that podcast for you.
I never noticed before that the up close shots of the prison ship were from Lara's point of view. Then at the end where it looks rain drops on the screen it is actually her starting to cry. Nice touch.
Yes that is only because superman has been draining yellow sun energy for his whole life, and did you realise during the end of the film How Zod was almost equal to superman, this means that if kryptonian warriors like Zod had atleast a year on earth they would kick supermans ass
They've got the technology to cross the stars, power armor, climate converting world engines, but don't believe their best scientist, or have any kind of long term sustainable colony?
Chris Lucas All those things you mentioned hey invented a long time ago. Since they established the role decided genes, people on Krypton do not think as critically anymore because they’re all designed for specific purposes. Hence nobody except Jor el (a top scientist) even really considered going back to colonies because it isn’t how they’re progressed to think. Jor el explains this is the ship scene.
Actually Zod was righteous. If one day Earth becomes same like Krypton, we ll try to do anything to survive. Even if that means extinction of another planet's inhabitants.
Sometime survival is never going to be the same as living. At this point seeing what is being done to the planet it's inevitable. Once you now it's ending all u can do is go gracefully!
This movie is so underrated!! 55% on Rotten Tomatoes?? It deserved at least a 70%... C'mon people even the editor of rotten tomatoes said its a good film
These are the types of villains marvel needs. Have a villain that's arc runs parallel to the heroes and bring them into conflict because they have different ideologies. Say what you will about DC and Warner, but man do they know how to craft some good villains without sacrificing the heroes arc.
I disagree with the last part. The heroes arc was definitely sacrificed in this movie. And then they went the other way and sacrificed the villain's arc in BvS.
***** I love how you insult me right away when I bring up the Nolan films. I'm not quite sure how that makes me a "dumbass" when they are so obviously superior to the mcu. Keep in mind I love the mcu but Nolan's trilogy was groundbreaking for the superhero genre. Nevertheless it's all subjective and your entitled to your opinion.
is it just me that actually sees zod more like an anti-hero. i don't know why but i didn't see him as the villian and i was kinda rooting for him in the movie.
oscar51119 Yeah, he just wanted to replace Earth with Krypton by killing all 7 billion people on this planet one by one... Pshhh... Yeah. no real villain there.
Zod could have colonized Mars or something and live in peace with Earth or alongside them. At least if he's going to conquer Earth he should have used deception and subterfuge like he did in the New Krypton arc.
***** He couldn't use Mars, because Mars can't support life. Earth does and is the perfect place to restore Krypton and even so, he still needed to track down Superman so he could put the plan in motion.
The fact that the last look up onto the pod is blurred by water only to change into Laura with water in her eyes is mindblowingly good. Zod was so well written!
That is one big son of a bitch in the background (One of zod's soldiers) I think Michael Shannon filled in Terrence Stamps performance of Zod perfect. Ruthless and deadly. The music after he yells "I will find him!" Was perfect.
goonzjav That is actually a character named Nam-Ek. The characters of Ursa and Non from superman 1 & 2 were characters created for those movies, Ursa was based upon Faora-Ul while Non was based on Nam-Ek. Although in 2006's "Superman: Last Son" Non and Ursa were officially introduced into the comics.
goonzjav His name is Nam-Ek in this. They didn't want to use the name from Superman II. And since Ursa originally was named Faora Hu-Ul in the comics, it worked out to stick with the her original name.
Um try again @TheBlond49. All merchandise, media reports, and even wikis have the big guy as Nam-Ek and not Tor-An. But I do remember Nam-Ek in Smallville and even the MoS prequel comic which has some contridictions with the movie. dccinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Nam-Ek
The people who say this movie sucks are probably Marvel teen weens. Come on, the dark atmosphere, general zod, many awesome easter eggs. This movie is awesome! Can't wait for the DC universe films
+Abominatrix650 No one is shitting on Marvel. Even they have great films like Iron Man & Captain America Winter Soldier. most of the people who hate on Man of steel are mostly Marvel fans, who think its better to shit on competitor.
+Combatant 007 i like marvel. i like dc. 'm no nerd or geek thats for sure and probably dont even know what 'realm' the fuckers come from but whatever looks badass i'll watch.. this movie was totally BADASS. In my opinion he could probably take down everyone accept that big long gord /pickle face guy, like, the biggest and baddest of all of the marvel villains, he's in the end of the movie of avengers.. the rock dude that likes the magical Fisting machine, with his 4 or 6 mighty stones his fisting becomes unstoppable. and controls all realms of fisting to impress his love Death basically so he can go to her realm and fist her with his magic conshell..(the thing from spongebob).. Yea all i know is that dude can survive supernovas an shit, like put his fist down and destroy entire planets.. Kewlio kewlio sounds badass i'll watch it. Him and Super duper man and the rest of marvel should face fist him so hard that when super man shows up to finish him he'll hit the ground like, thump, pac'n like Lean Neeson.
I wouldn't say the film sucks, I agree it takes a lot of unnecessary slack, but it's definitely far from perfect. Its solid for the most part but for me the best way I can describe it is a series of incredible moments like this scene here that are loosely connected together by extremely flawed, bland, or heartless filler. For instance the death of Clarks father (his Earth father) was laughable, he basically died saving a dog and on top of that Clark sits back and allows it to happen (I don't buy his reasoning for it, if my dad was in danger I wouldn't give a fuck who saw me fly in, I would save him) The whole angle of Clark being an unknown person who was mostly on the move and off the grid was completely unnecessary too, as well as the idea that Lois Lane was able to deduce his identity very quickly as a result. And although it's a superhero film the amount of destruction and semi collateral damage caused by Superman is friggin insane, I never thought I'd say it but I got sick of seeing explosions by the end of it, it seemed like Superman was as equally a large threat to everyone as Zod was, I assume that's exactly what they were trying to do in some ways to be fair but personally I don't think it worked, it just showed him to be careless and reckless in my opinion (although the last fight between him and Zod was awesome). I think what rattles me most tbh though is how seriously it takes itself, now don't get me wrong I don't think it should be riddled with humour like some of Marvels efforts (like Thor: Ragnarok which I absolutely fucking hated) but the whole film when it moves from Krypton to Earth is bland dark greys and dark blues and it's so bleak and gritty and humourless it kinda gets draining to watch, this is Superman for gods sake, crack a smile now and then lol. On the whole I would still rate it as one of the better DC films and it shows how visually Zack Snyder is a vastly underrated director, it's just a shame that his storytelling isn't quite as strong.
Make Krypton great again! We need to build a wall...the Earthlings are sending in their drug addicts, their rapists, their thugs....we'd build a wall and make the Earthlings pay for it
Well here is Zod's problem... If he wanted Krypton that bad... He could have colonized Mars!! xD lol the logic. But then we wouldn't have this epic movie ;-;
In the end he was still a villain. There was a whole universe out there to rebuild his planet. You know...somewhere that didn't have a super powered individual that would get in his way and wouldn't require genocide. Even if Earth was a good location, it was hardly the only choice in the entire universe. Zod was lazy. Take everything you need to rebuild your race and go somewhere else. His plan didn't require genocide, he simply chose to slaughter billions....because it was more convenient. That's not anti-hero.
I remember in Arkham Origins, the Joker saying something about how people's fates were sealed, not by fate or a higher power but simple human nature. Well we at least could fight that nature, that fate, that's what it means to have free will. But the Kryptonians didn't have free will, they were bred and engineered to perform specific roles, i.e. to be bound from birth to specific view point, they were bred to think how they think. Yeah, the Council was a pack of idiots, but they were designed to preserve Krypton's 'perfect' society as they saw it, they had no real choice in how they thought and therefore their actions. The same with Zod, the only choice I could say he made was at the end when he realized he could never fulfill his purpose and went mad with despair and even that is stretching it. Jor-El was lucky, as a scientist he was designed to be an open thinker, which helps with looking for new solutions. Supes was ultimately the only Kryptonian with a choice, which I think is what really destroyed his race, they had no choice in what they did.
Bull. Utter bull. Zod chose to rebel, kill the councilwoman, and his friend Jor El. He chose to invade Earth when he could have colonized one of our neighboring planets. Jor El and Lana chose to create a natural born life form. Destiny changes as we change. The only thing about our fates that is sealed is death.
Levon Gevorgyan Dude, I am talking about thought processing, all of them had personalities they were designed to have. No matter what happened in Zod's life, or Jor-El's life, they were always going to end up, the kind of people they were. All the choices they made around those ingrained personalities are still choices that could be called predetermined. Think about it, yeah Zod rebelled, but Zod was designed to protect Krypton, so when he saw that the council was an obstacle to that programmed goal of his, he would always going to rebel, always, clearly bad programming, but programming still.I can't for certain say Jor El and Lara were designed to be, but as a scientist, he would've most likely been given a personality that was more free-thinking, to come up with new solutions.
Dude are we all in consensus? This is a remarkable portrayal of Zod. Its my favorite superhero movie. And my favorite superhero is Batman. But this movie is awesome.
I love his delivery of "Jor' el was right, youre a pack of fools..." I love MOS and the DK trilogy.. it really feels that theres something at stake in these films... Marvel films while fun dont feel as if they carry consequence..I dont want grim and gritty but the tone just feels off to me.
Michael Shannon literally took this role & made it his own, he definitely deserves the recognition. I loved him as Zod & wish he was involved in other DCEU movies 💚
One of the greatest villains ever written. Also Michael Shannon does him brilliantly. Would be interesting to have a full movie / series of Zod itself, Origin and all.
In all honesty... Superman is lame... trust me u think Superman is awesome while thinking General Zod is a villain, when in reality, Krypton would have seen them in mirror opposite way.... This is also the same thing with Batman/Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor... I mean thats a lot of similarity if you think about it... They wanted to humiliate Superman which they did... Perfect Nemesis... Billionaires... Smart men... Anti-hero material.. Both of them defeated Superman... People's Champion... Yet you cheer for Batman and boo Lex luthor... But in reality, both are alike... But they execute things in a different manner to accomplish the same goal..
this is one of those superman movies thats so well made haters gotta look hard for things wrong with it. it puts all other hero mvovies to shame even avengers
I agree but its hard to make a bad movie out of superman who is like limitless but i see where ur comn from, no one coulda made a better superman than snyder!
Michael Shannon is brilliant in this role because he shows the intensity of zod's commitment towards saving Krypton at any cost. In my heart and mind he's not so much a villain but a patriot to his core beliefs.
He wanted to induce an omnicide on Earth in a misguided effort to rebuild Krypton on our graves. He could have regenerated 1,000 or 10,000 Kryptonians to be Superman scale superGuardians on Earth and co exist but he had no capacity for strategic thought or revisiting his limited perspective.
