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Generating X-Rays Using A Magnetron 

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Did you know that the core of your microwave oven can produce more than just microwaves? In this video I show how a magnetron can be used to produce a considerable amount of X-rays!
Please do not attempt anything in this video at home; magnetrons contain highly toxic beryllium oxide, and exposure to high voltages and X-rays can be dangerous without proper protection.

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14 авг 2024

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@stevenbirch
@stevenbirch Год назад
Interesting original work. I trust that you did a comprehensive risk assessment...
@BritishEngineer
@BritishEngineer Год назад
Only about twice the power of a dental X-ray, nothing too serious
@andrewgiles3790
@andrewgiles3790 Год назад
What do you care?
@kingrutse3278
@kingrutse3278 Год назад
😂😂 risk assessment 🤣🤣 ..
@ollie4022
@ollie4022 Месяц назад
13uSv/h is nothing to worry about for the durations seen in this video.
@PosthumanKindergarten
@PosthumanKindergarten Год назад
that seems a safe amount of x-rays, i succeeded with random tube rectifiers polarized in reverse, filament off, yes, the majority of the tubes shield the x-rays anyways to take away those aluminum fins you just need to cut em with cutting pliers making a slit, then enlarge em to slide em off, it's easy also if the oven isn't ancient it's unlikely that it has beryllium, but better not crack that stuff anyways
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 Год назад
This one is a legiy beryllium oxide insulated tube. The bright white antenna insulator is the tell. Most newer ones are aluminum oxide or zirconium oxide.
@petevenuti7355
@petevenuti7355 Год назад
How are you sure and approximately how long ago did they switch?
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 9 месяцев назад
It's got to be over 30 years old, then. The insulator color isn't really a "tell". Alumina & Zirconia sometimes doped with chromium oxides (similar to a ruby) are typically used.
@superdau
@superdau 2 месяца назад
Beryllium oxide hasn't been used in consumer microwave magnetrons for a long time. Its properties aren't needed at those power levels and it's expensive. If in doubt, measure the insulator's density. Beryllium oxide is about 3g/cm³, Aluminium oxide (the material that's usually used) is 4g/cm³. Unless you grind it to dust, Beryllium oxide isn't an issue anyway.
@BritishEngineer
@BritishEngineer Год назад
The insulators in domestic microwaves are ceramic with a little bit of cr02 mixed into them
@davestorm6718
@davestorm6718 9 месяцев назад
@chuharry5360 If it was built in the 1990s or later, there's no beryllium oxide ceramic.
@CD3WD-Project
@CD3WD-Project Год назад
Truly balls of iron there sir !!!
@rafalg.6901
@rafalg.6901 26 дней назад
I recomend using soviet B1-0.1/30 tube for generating x-rays. Positive High Voltage to anode, and ground to pin 2. It is not connected to filament, but to metal disc inside, which can be used as a electron target. Voltage should be more than 40kV. It is able to generate 2500uSv/h.
@Wtfinc
@Wtfinc 3 месяца назад
I could only make so much soft xrays with my rectifier tube. They are awful xray tubes. I burned mine up. I can still use a neon transformer and it works cold and heats up quickly. Idk what happens if i let the cup glow red but i don’t want to completely destroy the tube
@theelectronmachines
@theelectronmachines Год назад
pretty sick, subbed
@blackbearelectronicswithco9541
@blackbearelectronicswithco9541 5 месяцев назад
So, would it be possible to creat visible light with a magnetron if you gave it a proper voltage and frequency?
@Kepler_2258
@Kepler_2258 3 месяца назад
Anything can emit visible light if you put in the right frequency and voltage, just you’d need 5.4×1014Hz frequency
@Shrek_Has_Covid19
@Shrek_Has_Covid19 Месяц назад
anything produces visible light with enough voltage
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 Год назад
Nice experiment. I tried powering a magnetron with a Tesla coil but it arced around 15 kV.
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
Yeah that'll happen, notice how I electrical taped the cathode end of the tube to prevent this.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 Год назад
@@spectrofreak9988 Maybe you could use it at 60 kV or more if you put it under oil.
@hardnachopuppy
@hardnachopuppy Год назад
Can you get more x-rays by heating the filament inside?
@The-One-and-Only100
@The-One-and-Only100 6 месяцев назад
I wonder if a magnetron can be turned into a cyclotron
@inductivelycoupledplasma6207
@inductivelycoupledplasma6207 5 месяцев назад
Nope, absolutely not
@The-One-and-Only100
@The-One-and-Only100 5 месяцев назад
@@inductivelycoupledplasma6207 did you try
@two_number_nines
@two_number_nines Год назад
Wouldn't you need to spark gap discharge capacitors to get a good blast of x rays? Also does it generate any 2.45ghz oscillations with the cathode being cold and magnets being off? Would it blast more x rays if the cathode was hot?
@Ferraday
@Ferraday 9 месяцев назад
No chance of microwaves in the current condition, and the tube impedance would be too low for X-rays if the cathode were heated
@hughezzell10000
@hughezzell10000 Год назад
I wonder what the energy of the xrays are.
@evolor
@evolor Год назад
What can you do with the x-ray in this case?
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 Год назад
I don't know about the import laws of your country but you can get real x-ray tubes from china relatively cheap. Specially the dental ones.
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
Oh don't worry, I've already got one. This application of a magnetron tube isn't practical for generating x-rays, but I figured I'd make a video on it because nobody else seems to have tried this.
@fbi-federalblyatofinvestig3853
Link? Asking for a friend.
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 Год назад
Anyone who gets this things be very careful, they put out tremendous amounts of ionizing radiation, you can get nasty burns and overexpose yourself very easy.
@googlefuuplayad9055
@googlefuuplayad9055 4 месяца назад
👍🐈🐾🐾
@gratefulamateur1393
@gratefulamateur1393 Год назад
You are a genius but you may never have kids after turning this thing on!
@Zeddify
@Zeddify Год назад
connect it to an electron gun. thats where things get spicy.
@Kepler_2258
@Kepler_2258 3 месяца назад
It basically is
@Tsindur
@Tsindur Год назад
did you remove the magnet to do this?
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
Yes, I meant to mention that this only works with the magnets removed. Electrons are accelerated in a spiral pattern when the magnets are in place, which allows microwaves to be generated. To produce ONLY X-rays, you remove the magnets so that the electrons are accelerated radially outward from the cathode.
@Tsindur
@Tsindur Год назад
@@spectrofreak9988 thanks for the reply and nice video! I wonder how hard it would be to be able to produce an image with this method of producing x rays.
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
@@Tsindur Thanks for watching! I think it would be possible to create an image with a *much* higher voltage power supply (eg >100 kV) or with very high-speed x-ray film but otherwise it would be difficult. No observable glow is produced when I put a phosphor screen next to the tube, even with up to 20 seconds exposure time on my camera. The x-ray current is substantial but really not enough for a good image in its current state.
@Tsindur
@Tsindur Год назад
@@spectrofreak9988 Thats unfortunate since I can only afford a 40kv* power supply and your diagram shows that the xrays spread randomly so it would be hard to focus it on one area for an image. I was trying to do this since I have magnetron but also since I am in high school and new to high voltage and trying to do a similar thing could you add me on discord I have some questions
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
@@Tsindur I don't want to give out my discord on here but you're welcome to email me with any questions at crustychem@gmail.com! I'd love to help out!
@DolezalPetr
@DolezalPetr Год назад
that is some dodgy stuff
@DeezNutz-ce5se
@DeezNutz-ce5se Год назад
Did you try heating the filament?
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
The filament seems to heat up on its own while doing this even though both ends of it are connected to ground
@DeezNutz-ce5se
@DeezNutz-ce5se Год назад
@@spectrofreak9988 try a control on the filament to up and down the voltage. I'm sure you'll get much much between results.
@mernokallat645
@mernokallat645 Год назад
If you heat the cathode the magnetron will clamp the voltage to about 4 kV.
@DeezNutz-ce5se
@DeezNutz-ce5se Год назад
@@mernokallat645 why is that?
@Ferraday
@Ferraday 9 месяцев назад
@chuharry5360Thermionic emission causes the tube to become a vacuum diode: freed electrons will conduct far more current after a certain threshold voltage - the same voltage as the original magnetron, ~4kV.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect Год назад
Your magnetron diagram is too "high class"... this looks like a precision magnetron made for a radar or something like that.... Microwave oven magnetrons have a much lower grade of precision and look "crappier" than this....... obviously, none of this actually matters at all. ;)
@mattharvey8712
@mattharvey8712 11 месяцев назад
Microwave.......are u cooking ur self.......cheers...........ok ......can u make a radar.......cheers
@diyfamily6848
@diyfamily6848 11 месяцев назад
Some people shouldn't mess with stuff they don't know too much about. Its a "Magnatron" a hint is in the wording, it neads it's ring magnets to operate, and I see here that you have removed them. Go back and read about how a manetron works before making embarrassing video's. Also the magnetron you have there puts out microwaves, not Xrays ! X-rays are much higher frequency than the 2450 Mhz your magnetron would have put out had you not removed it's magnets.😢
@ElPsyCongroo.
@ElPsyCongroo. 11 месяцев назад
Correct me. If i am wromg, but he removed the magnets precisely to stop it from producing microwaves and make it prodice x rays instead, the electrons go now in a straight line instead of in a circle and that is why this works, if they were really microwaves the GM wouldn't have detected them. Again, i am not 100% sure of what i am saying, but i have studied the way both x ray tubes and magnetrons work.
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 11 месяцев назад
Wow, you have completely embarrassed yourself. First of all, it's spelled "magnetron". You don't seem to understand physics very well. I removed the ring magnets specifically to prevent the cyclic electron flow that leads to microwave production at high DC voltages. Had you watched the video you would know that I wasn't trying to produce microwaves. With the ring magnets removed, the electrons are accelerated along a linear path and impact the copper anode block at a near perpendicular angle to the surface, resulting in their kinetic energy being converted into x-rays instead of microwaves like in normal operation. Also I'm running this at a continuous potential of 20,000 volts instead of the normal pulsed 4,000 volts, which is enough potential to generate soft x-rays. Hence why my Geiger counter detected ionization radiation. You need to read up on physics before spewing this kind of absurdity online.
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 11 месяцев назад
@@ElPsyCongroo. You are 100% correct. I have also studied x-ray tubes and magnetrons as part of my bachelor's degree and anyone who knows about that kind of physics (unlike the guy we're responding to) can recognize why this experiment has nothing to do with microwaves.
@weirdmeisterinc
@weirdmeisterinc 7 месяцев назад
i think you don´t get it what the video is about...🤦
@outerrealm
@outerrealm Год назад
Don’t try it at home. Go to a neighbor’s house.
@outerrealm
@outerrealm Год назад
Instead of posting a half assed video of unfinished work why not finish and complete everything rather than rush through this with a dozen excuses?
@spectrofreak9988
@spectrofreak9988 Год назад
What are you talking about? Complete what? This video was ONLY meant to demonstrate that magnetrons can generate x-rays. The flux is too low to use in an x-ray machine so what more do you want to see? You know you could have asked politely for more details instead of being so rude about it.
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