@@theexaltedlt8222 Ike is absolutely brain dead. He can continuously throw out huge range disjointed attacks and not get punished because of next to no landing lag. Just look at MVG vs Leffen, MVG only had to work half as hard to take the game. He only had to shorthop fair and nair to win.
If by "whole different level" you mean "throw out as many unpunishable hit boxes as possible" then, sure. I'm seriously considering picking up Ike because he doesn't require nearly as much fundamentals or tactics as falcon demands to do well. Ike's flowchart is too easy to execute.
Fatalities nerves didn't hold up well under pressure, not to mention the terrible MU. He definitely should have switched to Link to AA Ike's brain dead neutral game with better disjoint and projectiles. Still, 65/2000 is an excellent placement to get, and Fatality really shouldn't have let that match get to him as much as it did based on his Twitter.
@@roseworthy alright Captain Literal. It was just a fun comment on what I thought was a pretty clever piece of commentry. Not checking back the anals of commentator history or looking for a full blown debate. It was just funny ;P
well they can show some pretty gruesome n-air spam and tier whoring so I'm not sure why they'd censor the death of a low tier trash-can like captain falcon.
Baron Starrk imagine thinking getting nearly three stocked two games in a row accounts to "nair spam" and that's it. Like ya I guess I'll enter a major and jump mashing the a button and get into top 8 easily
@@jacko9214 am i getting wooooshed for this? Well whatever Fatality is perhaps the best falcon player, so he technically is one of the big boys. He also rekt other big boys such as zero. But why am i saying this? I'm probably getting wooooshed
@@Zateu idk, but falcon isn't as good as he used to be in this game, sure he's a good solid character but other characters just have a clear advantage over him, not to mention most of his combos were butchered. I found like a huge essay on Reddit describing what's wrong with him lol so idk they explain it better
@@tommyvasquezgarcia674 wait what? The game isn't even out for more than three months, and most of the community agrees that is way more balanced, than sm4
To all the bad players who say Ike is "broken" or "brain dead", why is MKLeo the only Ike to get these tournament results? MKLeo is a good player; it's not just the character. This isn't a Bayonetta situation; Ike doesn't outclass the other characters; so stop complaining and just practice.
I know right? As a falcon main I saw him missing his punish opportunities. Fatality choked but understandably agains Leo who’s clearly found his stride in this game. Fatality is just getting warmed up
Is there another top Ike other than Leo, everyone seems to be complaining about Ike being brain dead but I don't see many other Ikes at the same level of Leo. If anything Leo is broken and makes Ike look brain dead, Ike isn't THAT good Leo is just using him really well.
@@colinmcnair5519 If he switched and got 1 stock off, he would have gotten props. You don't get props for losing that badly. I love Fatality, but this was just a tragedy to watch.
Alex Salinas the new Smash Ultimate engine made everything faster, meaning Falcon lost one of his biggest advantages in the game no longer outspeeding most characters. His side B, while does get a cool hit box since he dives in, is no longer an early kill confirm. And his up air, used to be his bread and butter, but now it also isn't a kill confirm either and doesn't do as much damage
I would choose someone else against Ike. He at a disadvantage from the beginning with Falcon. Link, Zelda, Peach, Daisy, Paulatena or the Pits would have worked better in this match up.
my god, falcon had the worst breakfast ever; The Nair pancakes stacking on top of each other. I know falcon struggle against sword characters, but he has no answer to Ikes Nair :(
One thing I've found that works extremely well to punish Ike's nair is to wait for him to throw out an aerial nair. When he does, keep your space, and then falcon kick can punish every time. It's super easy to do. Unfortunately, I don't think Fatality knew or ever needed to resort to this tactic.
@@PhilipWalker You can obviously see fatality trying that with raptor boost, falcon kick is unsafe on hit at early percents, obviously Fatality knew all about these
So hilarious watching this a year later. You can tell the game was pretty new, with Fatality playing like ass here (he improved a lot since then, Falcon being buffed too) and Leo destroying everyone with Ike, a character you literally don't see anymore in competitive play haha.
i know falcon isnt what he used to be but i dont see this as being the final form of this matchup. i think falcon vs ike is doable and if anyone can do it its fatality. cant wait to see him challenge leo again.
While Ultimate feels like a well-balanced game, I have a strong feeling that sword-fighting styles are going to dominate the metagame. The game focuses too much on offense and minimizes defensive play. This type of play really benefits swords and hurts brawlers/projectile users.
Please help falcon Sakurai. I don't want to live in a world where fatality switches off of falcon. I don't want to switch either but he just doesn't have the tools in this game.
Coming off from that other game Fatality had with that Bayo, it’s really jarring to see him just get bodied. To be fair though, Leo’s a fucking monster.
Lots of things with falcons style is tougher in this game. And what I saw from fatality were a lot of correct reads but just barely missing. I think he takes a lot of precision to play
Watching this in 2021 makes me feel like I'm watching Goku vs Radditz 😆 I feel like I coulda beat mkleo if my current self played against him in those early days of ultimate with my years of experience since the game's release
I feel like Fatality should’ve counterpick with Link. Link has way better edge guarding tools against Ike’s recovery than Captain Falcon. He’s also good at challenging Ike’s sword attacks with projectiles
This is why I switched from C Falcon to Ike. The meta of Smash Ultimate is long range everything, whether it be Link's projectiles or Ike's massive sword (lol). I will always love fucking people up with C Falcon who are clearly inexperienced, but when it comes to game time, you gotta go with range over close distance.
Damn...Fatality was getting read left and right. I really did not want MKLeo to move on. Forget that he uses Ike I just wanted to see falcon do some work.
I'm convinced heavies with mid range attacks and some speed (just enough) are OP. Ike being one of them. I they need a bigger hurt box. Plus Falcon vs these fighters is at such a disadvantage.