Genetically Accurate Warrior Cats #1 - Firestar's Family 

I _love_ that you decided to actually dive into the entire family trees; Thank You!!! 👏👏🥰 💜💜 You have mad-respect from me - as someone who has also been gradually doing the same, myself, (just out of casual curiosity) over the last several months ever since seeing the vid by KiwiQueen 13. ^-^ (And I kinda completely *adore* the ways that YOUR designs turned out for all the cats here!! They look _GREAT;_ and I had a lot of fun watching this.👏👏💜 Well done!) *However,* I feel as if it should be pointed out that _all_ colorpoint cats (whether specifically Siamese breed cats or not) actually ARE partially-albino cats. Because... That is what colorpointing is - a temperature sensitive partial albinism. 🙂 The albinism is activated by warmer temperatures to switch the production of pigmentation off, but deactivated by cooler temperatures allowing pigmentation to be produced, resulting in dark ‘points’ with lighter coloring on other areas of the body that stay naturally warmer than those darkly colored extremities do; kind of like how a human person’s hands or feet & noses tend to get cold before the rest of their body will too. (The colorpoint and albino genes are actually coded for at the same loci; meaning that they are actually known as alleles, or different versions of the same gene, rather than actually being completely separate genes altogether.) If a cat has 1 copy of the gene-version for full-albinism from one parent and 1 copy of the gene-version for colorpointing from the other parent...they will still be colorpoint, but carrying full-albinism without showing it, yet _might_ be slightly more lightly colored overall than if they had 2 copies of the colorpoint gene. There are also two other similar but different partial-albinism gene alleles other than colorpointing & full-albinism, which are also coded for at the same loci as colorpointing & full-albinism is: Sepia (best exemplified by looking at Burmese breed cats although much like colorpointing it is also not exclusively or only found in Burmese breed cats) and Mocha (a much more newly discovered version of partial-albinism first found in a number of common random-bred [feral ]cats from Thailand much the same as colorpointing & sepia originally were also that looks kind of like a "light sepia" type of coloring) - both of which are also dominant over full-albinism if heterozygously inherited together (just like colorpointing is) AND also co-dominant with each other as well as with colorpoint (showing varying degrees of partial albinism intermediately between whichever 2 types of albinism &/or partial-albinism a cat heterozygously carries together unless the cat has 2 copies of the same version) but Recessive to pretty-much all other coloring & pattern genes(meaning that a cat will NOT be albino, colorpoint, sepia, or mocha at all but will carry it without showing it if that cat only got 1 copy of any one of those genes by its lone self without _either_ also getting another copy of the same version _or_ also getting a copy of any one of the other versions as well instead; but a cat will ONLY have full-albinism if they got 2 copies specifically of the full-albinism version). And Dominant-white cats actually CAN have eyes of _any_ color, sometimes even with either heterochromia (aka “odd-eye” or two mismatched / differently colored eyes) OR dichroism (which is when there are both some areas of blue color AND some other-colored areas together within either one or both of a cat's eyes), because typically blue eyes are basically akin to just having white-ness in all or part of their eye(s) .. it's really only pedigreed cats of specific breeds who have been selectively bred to limit their eyes exclusively to certain colors &/or to very specific shades of color(s). (Although blue eyes could also be caused by partial or full albinism as well, kinda like how full-albinism causes fur that looks white too, except that albinism never produces odd-eye heterochromia or dichroism though a cat could have both albinism & a White-ness gene which could do so; and partial albinism like colorpointing can produce either blue eyes or aqua colored eyes with an intermediate coloring between blue and green-UNLESS it is specifically the Sepia version of partial albinism, which almost always if not always leaves the eyes colored totally normally.) Random-bred cats usually have green eyes, or green eyes mixed with a bit of yellow &/or amber in them(Although plenty of random-bred cats do have yellow or amber colored eyes instead[, occasionally even so dark amber it's almost-brown]..sometimes intermingled together &/or with green). A random-bred cat of just about any eye color often can have kittens that could have the same eye color of eyes or just about any other eye color as well. And cats with blue eyes genetically carry and pass on whatever not-blue color(s) they have inherited from their parents-since blue eyes are not really technically an eye color all its own, just like white is either a lack of pigmentation altogether thanks to albinism or it's White-ness masking over the other fur color(s). Orange colored eyes is actually the rarest shade of cat eye color, and not that often seen at all outside of pedigreed cat breeds who have been selectively bred specifically to achieve it. A ginger colored cat is no more or less likely to have any color of eyes than any other [not-ginger ]colored cat is. But solid-colored cats with no White-ness on them, or non-ginger tabbies with no White-ness, are _extremely unlikely_ to have blue eyes, although even that can and does still occasionally happen from time to time. But it's totally okay to pretty much just ignore eyes altogether though; because the actual genetics that code for cat eye color(s) are much more complex and much less clearly or well-understood than the genetics for coat colors and patterns are-and most cats can have kittens with such a wide variety of different colors/shades.😊💖😁 Lol 😆

Well, Firestar is now dirtstar, And dirt will save the clan.

*Now I'm just realizing, Millie and Graystripe had a brown and calico child even though they're both grey cats.*

Fun fact, cats cant see red, *redtail has 2 huge reasons why he cant exist* (Goodlird please ignore this comment its old from when i was incredibly cynical about genetics as it was my hyperfixation aughh)

if every cat was genetically correct, we would have "Tortie Clan" as a canon clan

I'm sorry, but I'm a huge genetics geek, and just wanted to let you know that firestar doesn't need to have white and can still pass it on to his kits. See if the white is a ressesive trait, he can carry the trait but it will not be phiscally shown, and if sandstorm had the same resessive trait, it is possible for leafpool and squirrel flight to have white on them, and pass it on to their kits. I'm not trying to make you feel like your designs are bad, but just informing you since you didn't know. have a good day!

At this point I feel like everybody is related to Firestar

I kinda want to do one of these, but I think I'd prioritize first series main series cat designs over the 'top' of the tree. Hence I'd probably make Nutmeg a tortoishell so Firestar could be a ginger.

As someone who has been out of the Warriors community for a long time, Firestar and Scourge being half-brothers is blowing my mind.

Sandstorm having "noob" in her unprofessional genetic code is so fitting

So unless leafpool is a "caramelized" dilute, she wouldn't be brown. She'd have to be brown with ginger, or grey with cream.

Cool designs, and let's take a moment to appreciate that Jake's collar is the Bi flag, that was a real clever move there

Love these types of videos, really makes you realize just how unrealistic the cats in warriors are, especially with firestar... The Prophecy!

I honestly love Leaf and Squilf's designs much more than the canon! I feel like the black makes it to where it'd be more believable for canon Hollyleaf to be her kit and i think Leaf looks super pretty like she's supposed to be in the books!

I am no expert either, but here are some basic cat genetics I know. Cat eye colours are not genetic, it just depends on their melanin/pigment levels. Female cats take a colour from each parent and male cats just take a colour from the mother. All orange, grey, and brown cats are tabbies, no matter if you can see the stripes or not (unless it is chocolate, cinnamon, or blue fur)

You know what stands out to me about genetics in the Warrior Cats series? Based on the variety of colors and patterns among the forest cats, I'm pretty sure they're mostly or entirely descended from escaped domestic cats. You see, being a domesticated animal vs. a wild one is actually a genetic difference, not just a behavioral one. Think of the physical differences between dogs and wolves - technically the same species, but there are some noticeable physical differences that come from domestication. Now, if the forest cats are indeed pure-blooded wild cats, they'd be European wildcats (Felis silvestris) - but the problem with that is, European wildcats have hardly any variation in their color and pattern. They're universally brown to grey and universally tabby, generally not with patches of white or anything. Now in the Warriors series, we have cats that are black, white, black and white, ginger, pale ginger, brown gray, gray-blue, with stripes, with solid colors, with patches and spots and tortoiseshell patterns... basically the same variety you'd expect to see in a group of domestic housecats. Some of these cats might be pure European wildcats - Tigerstar for example doesn't have anything that would look out of place on a wildcat - but the majority of them are probably descended from housecats (or kittypets) that escaped into the forest to start living the forest life. Even in Tigerstar's case, he probably has some kittypet in his family tree if he comes from the same stock as the other forest cats. (Disclaimer: I've only read through the Warriors series so far with no supplemental materials, so IDK if the author has talked about the origin of the forest cats or Tigerstar's family tree. I'm just going off of my knowledge of animal domestication.) TL;DR Everytime Darkstripe gives Firestar shit for being a 'kittypet' I want to slap him upside the head and say "Shut up, you're all kittypets!!!"

i love cat biology, these are always so calming to listen to.

1:40 an issue with not including male tortie cats is that you ignored the 1 in 3,000 tortie cats will be male, which may seem like a big number but actually isn’t considering how often and many cats are bred. While male torties/cali’s are not super common, they’re still more common than chimeras but just have 0 fertility. Also chimeras are a completely random mutation of two completely different morph/genes embryos combining together, making both sides straight down the middle two different cats. So this isn’t something at all made genetically, so Spider could’ve been a 100% possible cat that looked the way he does, without worrying about genetics. So I think his character should just be left alone because regardless of his family tree/blood line, he’d always have turned out chimera.

I absolutely LOVE that jakes cannon collar is the bi flag

"You can only be ginger if your mother was ginger" Squilf: OH SHIIIIIIIIIIT

Honestly this design of Firestar does make sense to why his twoleg owners named him Rusty

I think bramblestar line goes back to oakstar

Personally when mapped it out I changed it around a little to keep firestar’s mostly canon design, and made Nutmeg a torbie, as well as making sandstorm and leafpool torbies, to keep squilf and the three at least somewhat on base

I’m sorry, but do I see a bi collar on Jake’s sprite? Whoever made that sprite is my new friend. Great vid, mate! It’s honestly hard to think about how different the series would be if everyone was genetically correct lol

Awesome job! Great series and interesting designs

This video was amazing! SO thankful YT recommended me this series! I´m so hyped to watch the rest! Nice work!

yes! another one of these acurate genetic trees! and your character is soooo cute!

Ahhh I'm so excited for this series! I loved KiwiQueen's video!

Who else would always think cats would look like what you’re brain imagined even if you know the books say they’re otherwise?😅 Sunstar for example, he’s a ginger tom, but my brain tells me he’s a longhair fluffy white tom with yellow eyes.

Squilf is so cute!! I love her genetically accurate design

this is perfect! im really fond of this! i am NOT very exp in the world of warriors, but i make OC's, i draw characters based off of other peoples designs, and also play warriorcats games. im really happy you did this video, and i really like it. it seems very right. TOO right... but also, a special thanks to you for the content and some understanding. LY! ty for reading :3

I already watched one of the videos you recommended at the beginning. That's probably how this showed up in my recommended. Great vid! I'll definitely check out your channel!

I just found your channel and I love it! So underrated ❤️😺

This is so cool! Very good work

YES!!! This video was amazing🤩🥳🥰😉❤️ I learned a lot! Ofc I showed my friends who also know about Warriors and they were shocked at how Firestar looked😂😂 Keep making videos like this,cause they are amazing:D😍

this is epic bro ! i honestly might draw firestars family tree and then draw it with these genetically accurate designs haha...

I just got taught cat genetics. thank you (This is really awesome seeing it with less-random genetics made by warrior cats and actually how they'd look!)

I love genetics so much and you did a great job! :0

Excited for this series!

The Rise of Scourge color version includes Ruby being a solid mid-grey, pretty close to what you have for Quince in there. (I tried to make another comment on this but I included a link to a pic of a page showing her and I think it got spam-detected for the link and auto-deleted F lol it was from DeviantArt though where some person was posting pages with the official art not redraws of canon, Pg 6 shows Ruby clearly a few times. If you're interested in finding it.)

This is actually so cool

I've also been wanting to do a more accurate family tree. I might do it eventually too. Cool on you for doing one of your own!

i absolutly adore your video! Deffinettly subing!

princess still looks pretty awesome ngl

6:24 oh my gosh, i have a cat named macaroni too!! She's a tabby but she acts similarly to what you described lol

4:33 I love that you have Jake a bi collar LOL ✨✨

AHH I LOVE THAT U PUT DAWN OF THE CLANS!! UNDERRATED SERIES TBHH

i remember starting to get into genetics with warriors in 2014; i'd do projects like these constantly, scrapping everything once i make it far enough just to start all over again. the only thing i'm remisced for is that you decided to compact all agouti patterns into mackerel, but it's your project!!! you do what you'd like with it ^^

Neat video! Also a heads up- this has probably been said many times- but female ginger tabbies are very rare, and the gene can still be transfered from his father, so he could be ginger :D

I'm not a warrior cats fan, but i like this video! I really like watching videos talking about the genetics and it's cool when it's about fandom characters :D

This is so awesome to see!

Am I the only one who noticed Jake’s collar?

cat eye colours are wild - you probably already know the white furred/blue-eyed cats being linked to deafness (its the same in double merle dogs and one specific pale horse, so it's very likely linked to some defect caused by melanin content in the hairs of the inner ear) - but there is also a newish mutation thats popped up in cat fanciers of a dominate blue eyes unlinked to coat colour! messybeast is a great source for cat genetics - it's just a personal website but everything is meticulously sourced and has checked out from my admittedly pretty cursory overview. and, while i know you're favouring first of their lines designs over everything else, nugmeg could theorectically have been a hidden tortie - its a very fancy name for having a very tiny tiny patch of the second colour, some as small as spots on pawpads. it wouldn't contradict her description either. anyway! i really loved this video! i love genetics, i had a grand old time durring that subject at uni

You put so much effort into this :D Great job ^u^

I haven't actually read or really been a part of this fandom for many, many years, but dammit if you haven't entirely caught my interest. Subbed!

I may not be the biggest expert either, but I thought that whitespotting level one meant a cat could have the gene without showing it?

I feel the "no ginger from dad" is severely wrong. We've had three litters from the same wild cat, a regular black stripe tabby, and my cat, a bright ginger tom, and whatever other cat she tagged with, which are mostly ginger males or silver ones, and we kept a batch that was born in our vents. We KNOW the mother is NOT orange but the possible father's are, we also know that the mother was either a Tortie dilute like the one my asshat brother threw outside which he said he took to the pound, anyway, or the mother was a long fur black cat. We have out of the litter of 6, 1 black slinky long fur, one short fur soft calico with slight white marking, 1 ginger tom, 1 regular black stripe tabby with white marks, and one silver cat( not full silver but not enough peach to be considered molted), and one darker colored but I guess a basic Tortie

Hi! I would just like to thank you. this video popped up Jan 2022 in my recommended and i checked out warriors cats and I love this series so much, i'm now on the 4th AVOS book! Thank you!

It's such a relief to see a video which is so accurate when it comes to cat genetics.

interesting My cat (who actually just turned 20 yrs old-) looks very much like Ruby! She's a Calico but her and her siblings all look about the same. We adopted her and one of her sisters but her sister looks more like Quince with a white belly. Just thought I might share. Genetics hurt my brain

Fire star could’ve had gotten his flame color from his grandmother crystal because it could be passed down a few generations ps adrianna

Now firestar looks like a pile of dirt with a white stone on it and three grass Halms on each side ;-;

Y E S YOU GAVE JAKE THE BI COLAR GOOD

0:15 Male torties exist in real life and if two tabbies breed one of their children might be a tortie And I'm not sure about this, but if I'm right there is no need to have Jake with white spots because if I'm right cats may jump a generation for some details, like if Scourge took the white paw from the grandma

Actually males can be tortoiseshells but it’s not likely! It definitely depends on how dominant that gene is and the parents.

I drew Holly as a calico because I thought since Leafpool is a brown and white tabby and Crowfeather is a grey [with white in the official art] tom, I figured that Holly would be a calico? Idk

Makes sense why his kitty pet name was “Rusty“

Tbh I think these designs look better than the cannon ones

Tbh if the genes would be realistic, the series would be very boring and the characters would loose their character.

Wow omg i loved it and ur art was soo cool aand pretty

"Oh, I'm SURE you've seen blah blah blah blah" Bish you are my official fav channel. Periodt.

Damn am I glad warriors doesn't follow real cat genetics.

Slight correction: - A cat can carry white spotting but not express it - two low grade white spotting cats, can in fact pop out a solid white. Its uncommon and its more likely to range in the low grade to mid grade range. - Fawn and cinnamon are technically shades of brown, so there's four shades of brown lol Edit: eyes are simple, blue are the only ones that are 100% guaranteed for cats that have the colorpoint gene, and cats with high grade white can have them. Its more likely a cat that has the dilution gene to have green eyes but its not guaranteed, every other color can honestly pop out randomly even if both parents don't have that eye color :)

i never thought of that! great job!

This is very goooood!

*Jake's collar is the bi flag*

.... no

hiiii i got inspired by this series and made my own project as well

I needed a recap for that 💀 thanks sis

Consider, to all your sad redtail lovers. Redtail Trans

Thank you. You’ve taught me a lot about cats.

I saw these videos one at a time, 1 2 3, until I finally gave in seeing the third one lol.

SL: "Chocolate alone will save our clan...." BS: "Bro spottedFuck wdym-" "What the hell is chocolate" SL: "Bitch I dunno-"

i really like this series

Oh wow!! Thank you for the shout out!

You are so good at drawing how-

thank you, this actually teaches me and keeps me more interested than actual school, lol

So I'm just gonna throw this in here, Spiderleg doesn’t even 100% need a mutation. He could just be a black cat who's fur is particularly prone to rusting or getting sun bleached. Rusting on black cats usually results in a brownish red very rusty color. When i was growing up my dad had a black barn cat who's belly was constantly rusted. Given we were prone to catching him lounging on his back on the pourch do it makes sense his belly rusted. I personally imagine the Erins just didn't realize rusting wasn’t an actual pattern and one of them met a rusted cat they thought looked cool.

i like watching these videos while i do my own take on genetically accurate warriors! i made nutmeg a hidden tortie but it's masked by the white so that firestar could be red

Firestars fam tree (I THINK MOST OF IT): Crystal (grandmother) Jake + quince = ruby, scourge, socks Jake + nutmeg = firestar (rusty), princess, tommy, filou, luna Princess + Oliver = cloudtail, Livy, Zach, Taylor, Nami Firestar + sandstorm = squirrelflight + leafpool Squirrelflight + bramblestar (claw) = Sparkpelt, alderheart, dandelionkit Leafpool + Crow’Feather = jayfeather, lionblaze, hollyleaf Cloudtail + brightheart = whitewing Whitewing + birchfall = Ivypool, dovewing Lionblaze + cinderheart = flywhisker, snaptooth, spotfur Spotfur + ?? = ??? Jayfeather + stick??????😦😦😦😦😦😱 (JOKE) Ivypool + ? = Bristlefrost, thriftear, flipclaw Bristlefrost + rootspring = ❌ Dovewing + tigerheart = ❌❔ Bramblestars family at 10 likes🫳🫴

Hey, just a thing about the eyes, I did have a ginger cat with blue eyes irl so you're good! Also I LOVE your art

this is such a nerdy cat genetics video. sends me back to when i did warrior cats rp lol

My AD(H)D self thanks you for making these videos. After watching Blue Collars videos I was wanting to do this very thing, but I know I would never get to it 😂

thank you for tortie ruby! and i also really like the fact that it's dilute

Underrated!

Man who knew that Cat genetics had such a dedicated fandom?

The first time I watched this…I remember that I haven’t even finished the second series, so I had NO IDEA any of the characters you mentioned, but guess what? I didn’t even take notice to the spoilers at all. I didn’t even know they were there!

How you make look is Squirrelflight so cool! ☺️

I love that your desc. has your ao3

love this!!