20:00 I cut core for a month up by James Bay. It was right when Sandy hit NY, so late October, early November I think... I could go out on an atv, ride 10 minutes from camp (we were camped on an esker, I could ride off into the endless muskeg because it was already frozen and there was snow cover), stand up (not stand on the quad, just stand instead of sit) and see farther than I have out on the prairies. The trees were >200years old, and not 6' tall, nor 3" at the thickest. Another educational session for me!! Thanks very much for this!