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George Hotz: Fully Self-Driving Cars Are a 'Scam' and Silicon Valley 'Needs To Die' 

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The hacking wunderkind thinks Big Tech's approach won't work. He built a $999 autonomous driving system that runs on a smartphone.
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It seems like self-driving cars have been five years away for at least 15 years. But now, major players in the industry-like Google spinoff Waymo, GM self-driving unit Cruise, and upstart Zoox-are promising that fleets of fully autonomous taxis are just about to roll out.
"It's a scam," says George Hotz, the 30-year-old hacker-slash-entrepreneur best known as the first person to jailbreak the original iPhone when he was 17. "No one's close."
Hotz points out that every system on the road today requires the driver to pay attention at all times and be ready to take over. He says that companies touting fully self-driving cars without human safety monitors-and sometimes without steering wheels or pedals-are offering nothing more than a "press demo."
Hotz started Comma.ai in 2015 to upend what he views as Big Tech's wasteful and shortsighted approach to self-driving vehicles. Instead of building specialized cars that rely on expensive sensors and follow laser-mapped routes, Comma.ai has created an autonomous driving system that runs on a smartphone, works on most vehicles sold in America, and requires no additional hardware.
The company's first truly all-in-one device, the $999 Comma 2, packs a modified smartphone and other hardware into one slim plastic casing, which Hotz 3D-prints in the garage of Comma.ai's office in San Diego. Mount it to your windshield, plug it into your car's OBD-II port, and Comma's OpenPilot software can take the wheel. The Comma 2 uses the phone's cameras and taps into the built-in RADAR and drive-by-wire systems contained in cars built after 2012, automatically turning the steering wheel and operating the gas and brakes.
Hotz says his company has spent $8.1 million thus far and is profitable, while the big players in the self-driving space have spent billions without offering an economically viable product. While his competitors vie to dominate the market with proprietary technology and ridesharing platforms, Hotz is focused on building an open-source, decentralized ecosystem for driverless technology.
When I first spoke with Hotz in the summer of 2017, he predicted that by 2020, cars would take their own wheels for large stretches without humans paying attention and that by 2022 they would achieve full self-driving ability in limited areas.
"None of that's true," he says now. "Profitable robo-taxis are still a decade away."
Hotz thinks the automated vehicle industry has surrendered to what he views as the vices of modern Silicon Valley, focusing on growth and hype rather than delivering truly innovative products. To find out why he's soured on the space and to take the Comma 2 for a test drive, I caught up with Hotz at the Airbnb Comma.ai rented off the Las Vegas Strip during CES, the largest consumer electronics show in the world.
Produced by Justin Monticello. Camera by Monticello, John Osterhoudt, and Jeffrey Cummings. Graphics by Lex Villena. Music by The 126ers, Matt Harris, MK2, Quincas Moreira, Jingle Punks, and Silent Partner.

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@jesusdiscipledon1499
@jesusdiscipledon1499 4 года назад
“My distaste for hype has grown immensely in the last 2 and a half years.” I felt that.
@jesusdiscipledon1499
@jesusdiscipledon1499 4 года назад
11:53
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk 4 года назад
Yeah I can totally relate to that. We life in a world of buzzwords and social media influence that is constantly pushing the "next big thing." It has become so common as a marketing scheme that I think most people are tired of getting burned by it.
@brickandorder2210
@brickandorder2210 4 года назад
Same here, feels so sick and gimmicky
@jesusdiscipledon1499
@jesusdiscipledon1499 4 года назад
Among the Hidden Coronavirus be like, *Real Hype* Though. No joke:
@anaklusmosgreek3198
@anaklusmosgreek3198 4 года назад
Same . Same...
@bentait2462
@bentait2462 4 года назад
That guy has a mad scientist gleam in his eyes. I love it.
@cestlavieeee
@cestlavieeee 4 года назад
thats when you know his chances of success are far greater ha. Every extremely successful entrepreneur in tech as some crazy in them...
@kolektivmozak238
@kolektivmozak238 4 года назад
Yep... Exactly that
@g0d182
@g0d182 4 года назад
1) The facts disagree with some of Hotz' expressions though. For example, Hotz says: "Waymo drivers must pay attention": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nnh5TQ60hek.html 2) However, Waymo has versions with 0 drivers with no-one allowed in driver's seat, and this was public knowledge before the date of the video above where he makes this claim. 3) In fact, Waymo's latest version stops the car if anyone touches steering wheel or pedals, and there is no one in driver's seat: (actual level 4 autonomy) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-__EoOvVkEMo.html 4) Albeit, comma two is cool, and I plan to buy one for my civic hatch sport touring 2017.
@schumanhuman
@schumanhuman 4 года назад
I was just thinking he'd make a pretty good Bond villain.
@tompain2751
@tompain2751 4 года назад
I think he smokes allot of weed.
@ryantaylor6530
@ryantaylor6530 4 года назад
I like how he has avoided being sued into oblivion; it ships with just dashcam software and then you the consumer can choose to download this open-source software for the device.
@ashardalondragnipurake
@ashardalondragnipurake 4 года назад
the insurance companies of the users will have a great time not paying because of that he dodges the responsibilities but that doesnt mean nobody is going to catch the flak
@LucasMp
@LucasMp 4 года назад
@@ashardalondragnipurake, true... If they find out. If there's anything like a factory reset on that device, you just need to do that and there will be no proof whatsoever. I'm not condoning that, but let's be honest, that's what would happen.
@ashardalondragnipurake
@ashardalondragnipurake 4 года назад
@@LucasMp problem is remembering to do that after running someone over or in a bigger crash finding the thing in the wreckage before the police arrive people wont be in the most legally sensible mind in either case
@MilwaukeeF40C
@MilwaukeeF40C 4 года назад
Remember? I'll chuck the motherfucker out the window as fast as my friend threw his bowl in the ditch. I am never more legally sensible and cool than I am when I'm in deep shit.
@kushtoshi
@kushtoshi 4 года назад
If the device were to "go missing" how would the insurance company know it ever even existed?
@haydc608
@haydc608 4 года назад
George Hotz is the only person who can say "Bro I can write that thing in 2 hours" in reference to a multi million dollar company's entire software product and I fully believe him 😂😂😂
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 3 года назад
Because you're a guillible idiot. The guy is a narcissist. His system is no more than an extended cruise control - it has nothing to do with the research into autonomous driving spearheaded by Google and Co. I guess he doesn't even have superficial knowledge of ML.
@Zeakthecat
@Zeakthecat 3 года назад
@@MrCmon113 so i take it you don't know or never really watched the video that he admits now his device is a advanced driver assist. the problem is your projecting onto holtz what you don't know, is basically one of many reasons a decentralized culture needs to come. i can literally tell that in your own comment, its so easy to read between the lines its pretty stupid. "hes a narrissist!", and what if holtz is right this time? what if in four years from now, in a 2024 interview with reasonTV, almost every one of his predictions comes true? every human makes mistakes, we learn from them, grow and evolve, you hate holtz fine, however don't be so blind by hatred of someone to not recognize the good someone is doing, and it sounds to me like you are blinded by hatred of holtz because he said the wrong things 4 years ago. do you honestly think a super hacker like holtz is a narcissist, because he unlocked the iphone at 17, jailbreaked the ps3, and even is proud of what hes learned and achieved? thats not narcissistic behavior, i personally witnessed that behavior, my own mother has that trait, this dude does not exibit that behavior, instead hes actually correct on many key issues with central planning. in fact, hes more knowledgeable about the world since the 2016 interview, which tells me hes the type of person to KEEP ON LEARNING! humans like innovation by design, its nothing new, the automobile took off and new roads and entire freeways had to be built dude to that demand. self driving cars can be hacked, the computer can break down for the autopliot functions halfway into a drive, and cause a serious accident, and then you have the possibility of someone getting a glitchy computer in a car or getting a defective product in a car and nobody doing anything to stop the car from killing someone. all you need is one accident in any self proclaimed "fully automonous vehicle" and no regulator would bat a eye, they would just get paid these millions. innovation has to keep going for any company to be successful, government regulatory agencies limit that heavily to the point in some industries only the big guys can easily cut through the red tape and not get into any legal trouble.
@marcuspinson
@marcuspinson 4 года назад
17:25 "it's like trying to fight for free speech by suppressing ideas. You can't do it." I think I found why he's not super popular in Silicon Valley.
@Kaizzer
@Kaizzer 4 года назад
The world is MUCH bigger than Silicon Valley :-)
@Gauntlet1212
@Gauntlet1212 4 года назад
@@PotatoWheel Like Elon Musk?
@famefortune101
@famefortune101 4 года назад
@@PotatoWheel You mean hes a real person?
@virtualmartini
@virtualmartini 4 года назад
@@PotatoWheel is that not precisely what you're doing, ya mongoloid?
@rhodesianwojak2095
@rhodesianwojak2095 4 года назад
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@hueyiroquois3839
@hueyiroquois3839 4 года назад
"They added a second safety driver" to a "driverless" car?
@defendliberty1289
@defendliberty1289 4 года назад
It's not driverless. It's a scam.
@thenewmayorofcrazytown7392
@thenewmayorofcrazytown7392 4 года назад
Maybe the driver is really motivated, you know, self-driven. 🤷‍♂️
@shywolf9130
@shywolf9130 4 года назад
So they added two backseat drivers to a driverless car?
@tompain2751
@tompain2751 4 года назад
Tech nerds want this so bad,that they never consider if it has any real benefit.Uber,lift,and waymo hope for it.Trucking knows that has very few practical applications,and it makes people worse drivers!
@williamwilson6499
@williamwilson6499 4 года назад
Huey Iroquois Yes...it’s called testing, genius.
@TheRoark85
@TheRoark85 3 года назад
"Self driving cars already exist... they are called taxis" - James May
@chikanmao8326
@chikanmao8326 3 года назад
lol
@YashArya01
@YashArya01 2 года назад
What kind of logic is this? "Cars already exist.. They're called horse carriages."
@japanesebitter1066
@japanesebitter1066 Год назад
@@YashArya01 not really the same. self driving cars still need drivers, cars don’t need horses.
@YashArya01
@YashArya01 Год назад
@@japanesebitter1066 fair. I had an actual self-driving car in mind, not what exists in development today.
@crepooscul
@crepooscul Год назад
​@@YashArya01 Your analogy was terrible too, because you're comparing two tools while the other guy compared the existence of a job with a pointless invention (that will never replace humans due to malpractice). Commercial planes do have autopilot, but a pilot is always needed for obvious reasons.
@HylanderSB
@HylanderSB 4 года назад
That Elizabeth Holmes quote didn't age too well.
@whatisiswhatable
@whatisiswhatable 4 года назад
That quote pre-dates Holmes.. Woudln't be surprised if there's context to him having that on the wall
@EggBastion
@EggBastion 4 года назад
4:41
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 4 года назад
@@whatisiswhatable LOL see @470K's comment LMAO
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 4 года назад
@@EggBastion BINGO !
@tiananman
@tiananman 4 года назад
@@whatisiswhatable I think it's usually attributed to Gandhi
@BlueMonk25
@BlueMonk25 4 года назад
“We cant force people, we have to offer it to the them” Silicon Valley begs to differ.
@charlesballiet7074
@charlesballiet7074 4 года назад
opt out... OPT OUT! hahah our terms of service will serve US! when you become the product we own you
@Refreshment01
@Refreshment01 4 года назад
i mean the phone that drive the car with Hoz method is not owned by the user. So what's exactly his point?
@Minecraftzocker135
@Minecraftzocker135 4 года назад
@@Refreshment01 I mean that's not too hard to change.
@TrueNacho
@TrueNacho 4 года назад
"It would take me more time to integrate whatever is they have than just build whatever is they have" - As a developer with more than 15 years of experience this was beautiful. Thanks.
@shahrazade26
@shahrazade26 4 года назад
I used to code computers. Now I'm a translator and in both jobs I'd usually rather start from scratch.
@MaxMustermann-bm7qt
@MaxMustermann-bm7qt 4 года назад
Its never about the software, it’s about the data. Always. We sell a heat pump simulation with transient behavior. No the product is you have a fleet of heat pumps, monitor their behavior and write a script that generates similar looking curves. This is obvious when talking about AI. But also in normal model based approaches you need data for validation.
@mavenfeliciano1710
@mavenfeliciano1710 3 года назад
Search “On Bullsh*t Jobs” by David Graeber.
@kimaji
@kimaji 3 года назад
@leah rose this really depends.
@kimaji
@kimaji 3 года назад
@Alex Mack this depends on a lot of things. and at times, it can be shorter to do it yourself. now that im talking about time, how much time would you need to get whatever it is you are trying to recreate? as in, how much does it cost, and how long would you need to earn that much. but also how long would it take to integrate whatever it is you bought into something you already have. or if doing it yourself would amount to less "time" then buying it. sorry if i was unable to get across my message.
@norbertnemesh
@norbertnemesh 3 года назад
RU-vid's automatic subtitles translated waymo as lame-o. Such an irony.
@Voltanary
@Voltanary 3 года назад
On both fronts... Ironic because waymo is lame, and it's also because googles translation AI is inaccurate. Both AI's are lame-o's.
@benbrice9343
@benbrice9343 3 года назад
I really like this guy. He speaks very simply. In other words he is smart enough to dumb it down for people like me. He is also funny as heck.
@WesHampson
@WesHampson 4 года назад
This dude just created the Linux of self-driving cars.
@HulIZ
@HulIZ 4 года назад
Is this open source though?
@Oliver_Nisgaard
@Oliver_Nisgaard 4 года назад
@@HulIZ yeah he said it was in the video, it's called Openpilot which also implies it's open source.
@robhulluk
@robhulluk 4 года назад
@@HulIZ Yes, it's open source: github.com/commaai/openpilot
@HulIZ
@HulIZ 4 года назад
@@robhulluk oh wow that is awesome!!
@charleswatts1864
@charleswatts1864 4 года назад
... using Linox (Android) phone.
@slopsec2358
@slopsec2358 4 года назад
So don't call it "Self Driving", because it's not. Call it Cruise Control, or even better, Cruise Assist, or Drive Assist!
@themodfather9382
@themodfather9382 4 года назад
They do buddy
@Leonelf0
@Leonelf0 4 года назад
@@themodfather9382 Tesla doesn't
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 4 года назад
Slop - All, TESLA cars Today are L4 Autonomy. TESLA plans on releasing L4 Rideshare ahead of FSD. once, FSD software is ready, it can switch it on via UPDATE.
@benobrien2545
@benobrien2545 4 года назад
@@themodfather9382 y'all are both wrong 😂 it's called autopilot. its halfway between self-driving and cruise control
@andrewrossell3782
@andrewrossell3782 4 года назад
Mark Plott I love seeing crunched up Teslas on the freeway because someone trusted it too much and wound up a metal and meat sandwich underneath a semi
@cameronphenix2096
@cameronphenix2096 3 года назад
I love how refreshingly honest he is about his own product. No vague statements to appease legal or save fsce to the consumer. The interviewer asks, paraphrased "you seem to have moved goalposts from self driving to advanced driver assistance" and he responds with "oh yeah, that was too ambitious. We've mellowed out." Not "We've experienced several roadblocks we couldn't have predicted" or "Our goal is still the same... but..." Just very open and honest "that was a pipe dream and we hope to get there one day but not now and not any time soon. Sorry not sorry."
@jooky87
@jooky87 3 года назад
He called it; Uber sold off their self-driving AI unit.
@hunterslaptop2166
@hunterslaptop2166 4 года назад
2025 - All cars require internet access to start. "We will get to it next week between 7am and 7PM." -Comcast
@lsswappedcessna
@lsswappedcessna 4 года назад
"We'll get to it next week between 7 AM and 7 PM on December 31st, 2112."
@The-Cat
@The-Cat 4 года назад
Well goog thing i'm still keeping my BMW from 1999 eventhough i use a corporate Audi as daily driver. BMW rest well I shall need you when evil corps take over the freedom of driving
@EoWKen
@EoWKen 4 года назад
Em Em Same, I have my BMW from 2002 and there is nothing on the market that I would dream of giving it up for. Those cars are from a time when the engineers perfected the ways in which you could feel more when driving, not less. They will need to pry the steering wheel from my cold dead hands is what I always say.
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 4 года назад
It will not work because you can't tell a client "Well, just be sure that you stop the car each time in a area with internet coverage and enough battery to your phone"
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 4 года назад
@@The-Cat1999 it's sn Eu2 so by 2030 you will be limited. You wouldn't be allowed to drive any thermal engines in the city so this will be a problem.
@robopoet
@robopoet 4 года назад
Interesting, but 99% of people won't care until a car is 100% driver-less, affordable and super safe. Who wants to sit there panicked, hands hovering over the steering wheel, watching a computer make guesses about traffic? The dream is to catch a nap on your way to work without killing people.
@gps9715
@gps9715 4 года назад
^This! I'm sitting here watching this telling myself why would I want a driverless car that requires a driver? That's insanely dumb. If you have to pay attention the whole time, just as if you were driving, what the f is the point? In fact it can become even more harrowing, because many times you will be wondering, will the car(computer) do X, will it appropriately respond to X situation? This driverless car future is a crock.
@themodfather9382
@themodfather9382 4 года назад
Tesla drivers do
@edgarbm6407
@edgarbm6407 4 года назад
Such a simple sentiment. I can't believe more people don't bring this up.
@dougrogan379
@dougrogan379 4 года назад
I mostly want it to drive me around when I'm drunk and I don't have to talk to a driver
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 4 года назад
What you are talking about is the driving equivalent of a train or escalator. Current road driving is hugely complex. And given the near impossibility of removing all bugs from any software, it is basically guaranteed that something which looks like a car that drives on current roads with an automated pilot will cause accidents. The infrastructure costs to make roads act like railroads is highly prohibitive.. which is why I don't think we'll see anything like what you are describing ever. It violates both technical precepts AND economic principles. It is neither technically feasible nor economically affordable. Worse.. as one of the segments above touches on.. you do NOT want to give people a sense of false security. From my perspective, they shouldn't even be adding systems like this to autos. The morons that trust too much will end up getting themselves into trouble (which we have evidence of right now). Things that can go 50 miles per hour and kill people must be designed for the lowest common denominator. They must ASSUME distraction is part of the equation. Right now we have folks driving distracted without automatic systems and killing folks on the road. The system must be designed assuming THOSE drivers are behind the wheel.
@PhiTonics
@PhiTonics 4 года назад
Oh the promise of technology, this guy gets it; "what new ability do I get"
@DanielPearson1
@DanielPearson1 3 года назад
"My distaste for hype has grown immensely in the last 2.5 years", me too, brother.
@johnschmidt1391
@johnschmidt1391 4 года назад
This dude has the sass of someone who is self-employed and never has to worry about money again. Really interesting when he said that no one is going to hack your phone and if the state wants you dead it doesn't matter
@jmanakajosh9354
@jmanakajosh9354 4 года назад
wow, so you really think the government is gonna hack your phone?
@johnschwalb
@johnschwalb 4 года назад
@@jmanakajosh9354 the government doesn't need to it already is in your phone.
@johnschwalb
@johnschwalb 4 года назад
@felix I'm sorry you miss understand. Face book, google, Microsoft, and apple are always recording, the government has access to that. Not to mention you isp tells the government everything your doing online. Have you not been paying attention to the last decade.
@chrism8180
@chrism8180 4 года назад
@felix plenty of people notice. Hypersensitive ads are a big thing. Search a product a few times youll have ads for it come up. Talk about a product youll see those ads. Even videos on your feed, and Google news ads are geared towards your liking, and political affiliation and tied to your searches and mic. Also, 200b phones would be 2.5 for every human on the planet. There aren't that many active phones
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 4 года назад
@felix It's public knowledge that they have access. Did you just completely forget about all those leaks?
@guestuser2373
@guestuser2373 4 года назад
“You can have a self-driving car right now. It’s called a Uber. “
@jasonbowman9521
@jasonbowman9521 4 года назад
Not out here in the sticks. I would pay $40 bucks to and from dr appointments but no dice. I never did learn how to drive so it's a huge inconvenience.
@Victor-my1hi
@Victor-my1hi 4 года назад
@Swampy It's actually close, because you don't drive the car, and it takes u from A to B, the way doesn't really matter if the results are the same :)
@BrieoRobino
@BrieoRobino 4 года назад
@Swampy you talk about context but missed the meaning that George was conveying. If you want to get somewhere in a car without driving get an Uber.
@jasonlisonbee
@jasonlisonbee 4 года назад
@@BrieoRobino Another selling point of self driving is lower cost per ride than with a human driver. All companies working on it plan on eventual fully automated livery.
@milosjazic7453
@milosjazic7453 4 года назад
@@Victor-my1hi yea but the results are NOT the same.
@ido5139
@ido5139 4 года назад
You can't expect people to stay alert with a self driving car. It's just isn't humanly possible. Imagine doing this for 20 minutes or an hour. Just impossible
@princediop8190
@princediop8190 4 года назад
idose we already do it
@ruburtoe1
@ruburtoe1 4 года назад
@@princediop8190 but because of perceived "necessity", so take away the sense of necessity and alertness is no longer guaranteed.
@greenfox1991
@greenfox1991 4 года назад
Ye, I think is easier to just dive yourself the car that babysit the AI driving the car.
@davidprimeau3368
@davidprimeau3368 4 года назад
It seems to me that it is more taxing than driving myself. I am 60 and would be exhausted after 20 minutes trying to guess if it was going to turn, or brake.
@greenfox1991
@greenfox1991 4 года назад
@Professor Waffle This documentary talks about people that wont trust a machine at 100%, something that Tesla and others are willing to do. I think that the 1 option is actually useless, cause babysitting a machine is not worth, the 2nd option makes more sense and it is viable, in my opinion.
@cheongyei
@cheongyei 4 года назад
"It's like trying to fight for free speech by suppressing ideas. You can't do it."
@deathstrike
@deathstrike 4 года назад
It's because he is realistic, he offers a system, not a track on the hype train. So many companies offer you a dream, and what at the end of the rainbow, do you have in your hand? Hint it's not a cool new feature. It's hot air.
@The1337nut
@The1337nut 3 года назад
@@deathstrike vaporware
@user-ew2sz3ez4n
@user-ew2sz3ez4n 3 года назад
Extreme left and right do it all the time. Seems to work sometimes
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 4 года назад
9:19 "they added a second safety driver" right so this "self driving" car requires more people than a car you drive yourself
@Vexxed
@Vexxed 4 года назад
Love his personality. Very realistic guy, not afraid to tell the truth and be controversial.
@Gotmilk0112
@Gotmilk0112 4 года назад
controversial =/= true
@floatbob4281
@floatbob4281 4 года назад
Vexxed I’m pretty sure I’m the 1000457th person to ask, but when will you upload a new video?
@Vexxed
@Vexxed 4 года назад
@@floatbob4281 you are indeed the 10,000th person to ask. When I find something I feel is interesting enough to upload a video about.
@Supergecko8
@Supergecko8 4 года назад
You still around bro?
@Milosz_Ostrow
@Milosz_Ostrow 4 года назад
@Vexxed- That's precisely why George Hotz doesn't fit into places like Facebook and Google, let alone Microsoft or IBM.
@MyReviews_karkan
@MyReviews_karkan 3 года назад
I love how he made it open source. This is very very important. Probably the most important part of the whole project.
@backseatpalace
@backseatpalace 3 года назад
“Yeah we gotta fix this.” - George Hotz
@lordkayx
@lordkayx 4 года назад
"show me something that I can give you money for and have a new ability today " This guy has a decent business sense. I didnt realize how absorbed in hype culture I was until he said that. And his open source vs proprietary ideals are always respected by this consumer!
@trazyntheinfinite9895
@trazyntheinfinite9895 4 года назад
i am an avid fan of driver assistance systems. Not a fan of replacing myself.
@bobbyweirddick6556
@bobbyweirddick6556 3 года назад
I hate the self driving agenda. It takes away your freedom to drive and do and go anywhere you want. Everywhere you go and everything you speak will recorded in data. Even if you drive on your own and are a bit naughty like my dad. That will be data and you’ll be fined because they won’t need speed cameras. Not that you’ll drive your car because it will become illegal. Said something against the state. Now your punished and can’t drive to work because the car has been issued with a 2 week suspension. Gov or hacker don’t like you, great they can just hack into your system and make your crash. Good luck trying to respond to it because you won’t have a steering wheel. Welcome to the automated future where you are completely useless and disposable. You can’t go places without permission and you need a good behavioural form in order receive basic privileges of those so programmed. If you been naughty and got some negative points of your record, good luck buying shopping in store or online. Good luck travelling anywhere, no train or cars or planes without good state behaviour. Good luck paying for anything as it will be all digital and you guessed it, the state got control of that. Good luck working, remember they want a large majority of humans to be useless and this automated driving is the beginning of our damnation. Said something bad to a friend in the past, now your going to court and being charged because he’s a judge with unlimited power and access.
@lordkayx
@lordkayx 3 года назад
@@bobbyweirddick6556 your point of view is fascinating.
@kingkong8974
@kingkong8974 3 года назад
Cameras can’t detect emotions. For example I drive for a living so I have watched people who are depressed and literally tried to kill themselves via walking into traffic before. I was able to tell long before the person started walking towards a car.
@c.s1393
@c.s1393 3 года назад
@@kingkong8974 Man,that's crazy. Where do you live?
@Eric-ki6wl
@Eric-ki6wl 4 года назад
FYI, this video seems to imply that this Comma product will work with almost any car made after 2012. In reality, it only works with a small handful of specific models (mostly Honda and Toyota) made after 2016 or later.
@adrianmunoz4514
@adrianmunoz4514 4 года назад
Pallmor still better then most companies
@amritpal79
@amritpal79 4 года назад
You can add support to a car yourself because it is open source tho
@Mikhail-Tkachenko
@Mikhail-Tkachenko 4 года назад
@@amritpal79 You'd better be a damn good mechanic and fabricator too so you can add electronic servos to the steering and brakes.
@amritpal79
@amritpal79 4 года назад
@@Mikhail-Tkachenko your thinking too small, instead you can just take parts from an existing supported car and retrofit them to an older car. There is a German who took Toyota power steering and ACC and fitted it to his Volkswagen vanagon and got openpilot to work on it.
@amritpal79
@amritpal79 4 года назад
@@rebchizelbeak5392 what you do with your money is up to you. I'm just saying solutions exist, I never said anything about how much it would cost you... Plus, the cost is relative to your skill and resources for such a project.
@Siik94Skillz
@Siik94Skillz 4 года назад
You can tell that his brain just functions a lot quicker than the average people, this guy is great!
@mrjohnnyk
@mrjohnnyk 4 года назад
It's no wonder he couldn't fit into the mold.
@CalvinHikes
@CalvinHikes 3 года назад
I love his attitude. I have no idea what hes talking about half the time but I don't care. He has an excellent attitude. Positive cynicism
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 3 года назад
Seems like a con artists to me. I wonder why you guys are all on board without having looked into the technology. EDIT: Just remembered, who that guy is. He sells regular driver assistance systems that most new cars already have. He doesn't even attempt to do make any sort of progress in autonomous learning. He probably doesn't know the first thing about ML.
@fghfdgable
@fghfdgable 3 года назад
@@MrCmon113 l0l
@malijames12
@malijames12 3 года назад
@@MrCmon113 if any kind of driver assistance system is "regular", i must be living in poverty.
@morghanphoenix
@morghanphoenix 3 года назад
I remember watching a show where someone hacked the driverless grid and held a city hostage during rush hour. Everyone was stuck in their cars, driving around, waiting for the city to pay before the deadline where they were all going to be crashed. Things like that concern me. This is plugged into your OBD port, if your system gets hacked you can yank the thing out and take over, you're not stuck with an integrated system you can't access that ignores your input and can become a real danger to you and everyone around you.
@honoraryanglo2929
@honoraryanglo2929 4 года назад
"COMMA AI BUILT THIS IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS"
@Jvdx
@Jvdx 4 года назад
haha iron man I see you
@Menaceblue3
@Menaceblue3 4 года назад
I'm sorry sir but I'm not a cave or a box of scraps
@nomadih2252
@nomadih2252 4 года назад
Without any snacks!
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 4 года назад
Don't forget manufacturing a brand new unobtanium in his garage
@janeleonard985
@janeleonard985 4 года назад
"Bel Shir thanks you! I mean me. I thank you!"
@KhalilGhibran
@KhalilGhibran 4 года назад
A running theme since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution: -Big guys run clunky, overcomplicated processes that they know don't work -Little guy comes along with an even better, more proficient system -Little guy gets played to the left
@TheKeksadler
@TheKeksadler 4 года назад
To be fair, it wouldn't surprise me if this has been going on since the dawn of time.
@The1337nut
@The1337nut 3 года назад
@@TheKeksadler Revolution always comes with friction my dudes
@afkgamemaster6276
@afkgamemaster6276 3 года назад
His product will make money. If he sells his product to the big company, he will make more money. Unfortunately, he has made it open source, so he doesn't have rights to sell the software, just the device. People will come out with cheaper devices.
@BillClinton228
@BillClinton228 3 года назад
Yes, I worked for a multinational company where 80% of meetings were completely unproductive, nothing was decided, nothing was resolved... my time there was just a blur of meetings. Unfortunately that's how alot of these big corporations work, most things are decided by the people on top and because they rarely know what they are doing by the time it filters down to the bottom of the company it's so complicated and convoluted, it doesnt make sense... and ideas to streamline the process or change the way things are done are rarely listened to.
@grahamhilton8458
@grahamhilton8458 3 года назад
Ever heard of Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg?
@nikjs
@nikjs 4 года назад
These self-driving crazies killed that cyclist in their hubris. They took another human being's life who had never known there were self-driving cars on the road, who never consented to being experimented with this way. This is unpardonable.
@jmanakajosh9354
@jmanakajosh9354 4 года назад
ahem... but who would hold them to account? the people?
@Marva123
@Marva123 4 года назад
George Hotz is my new favorite person by saying "Silicon Valley culture needs to die"
@abhishekdev353
@abhishekdev353 3 года назад
Who else? Peter Thiel
@sfm073
@sfm073 4 года назад
IMO cars either need to be fully self driving or not at all. Humans aren’t going to just sit there and pay attention while not doing anything.
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 4 года назад
That would take removing all non self driving vehicles off the road. Plus what happens when a vehicle gets older and needs repairs? People can adapt to cars that are not 100% perfect. It gets very expensive.
@jimbartosevich498
@jimbartosevich498 4 года назад
I agree. The less engaged we are in the driving process, the more prone to distraction. That's why as these drivers aids get added, distracted driving becomes MORE of a problem rather than less.
@cayenne7792
@cayenne7792 4 года назад
Humans aren’t going to pay attention to anything!!!!!!! attention spans are too microscopic!!
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 4 года назад
sfm073 - NOPE, Autonomous cars should be MANDATED by the FED and NHTSA.
@snebold
@snebold 4 года назад
The fact is systems like Tesla’s autopilot have been shown to make driving much safer than when autopilot is turned off.
@bigfootisjustreallyshy
@bigfootisjustreallyshy 4 года назад
I kEep mUh Leeeenux KerNel uP to dAte I rUn ArCh LeEnUx. Lmao that was too good. edit: I just realized one of those waymos drives by my house in this video. Creepy.
@zcrib3
@zcrib3 4 года назад
That was gold.
@deztructo123
@deztructo123 4 года назад
I was reading this, just as he said it. LOL!
@LuciusC
@LuciusC 4 года назад
It's not going to age too well though.
@cannaroe1213
@cannaroe1213 4 года назад
@@LuciusC lol, why?
@deoxal7947
@deoxal7947 4 года назад
@@LuciusC Do tell how
@DOKOTV
@DOKOTV 3 года назад
This guy is a genius. Following him since his announced comma ai. Big companies made fun of him. But he proved himself just like we expected.
@ToTheNines87368
@ToTheNines87368 3 года назад
Why is there an Elizabeth Holmes quote on his whiteboard? Is that some next level CEO humor.
@johnpatrick7699
@johnpatrick7699 3 года назад
Pretty much. It's from this vid (at around 4 mins), dude likes to troll in his livestreams: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0K3L4G02LFo.html
@silverpairaducks
@silverpairaducks 4 года назад
My car has three pedals.
@cmanycrows8400
@cmanycrows8400 4 года назад
silverpairaducks Mine has a stick and airbreaks.
@bobkaiser8782
@bobkaiser8782 4 года назад
As it should be
@sheeiiittt2012
@sheeiiittt2012 4 года назад
Openpilot works with manual cars, namely the Corolla and VW Golf
@rayme4raw
@rayme4raw 4 года назад
Gas, brakes and Eject?
@tompain2751
@tompain2751 4 года назад
There are fewer"three pedal" cars made!
@Arigator2
@Arigator2 4 года назад
Am I the only one who noticed the Elizabeth Holmes quote?? LOL She's the CEO of Theranos 9 billion dollar scam company.
@fuckinzell
@fuckinzell 4 года назад
you know what they say about broken clocks...
@450ktm520
@450ktm520 4 года назад
Ya the person that trying to get acquitted. Seems like if you steal a small amount of money. You goto jail. You steal a lot of money you get a thumbs up, a slap on the wrist, an ankle bracket, check in to a resort for a year. This world is corrupt as f
@johnames6430
@johnames6430 4 года назад
yes, and in your comment you could pointed out where it was in the video
@Minstorm34
@Minstorm34 4 года назад
I think it's semi-ironic, lol
@srenjensen7208
@srenjensen7208 4 года назад
show
@johnunkerman
@johnunkerman 3 года назад
This guy’s what real genius is about. He knew that because the steering servos were already in place because of lane assist and lane departure sytems in most modern cars, a smart phone running an open source code, and access to deep learning algos, could do the job even better. I love this guy!
@No-1.In.Particular
@No-1.In.Particular 3 года назад
If I can't sleep in my car while it works it's magic, then I don't want a fully self driving car.
@TheJimSkipper
@TheJimSkipper 4 года назад
For $250000, I can hire a chauffeur.
@szabomarton8064
@szabomarton8064 4 года назад
but you need 4 to keep driving 24/7
@theerealatm
@theerealatm 4 года назад
Szabó Márton Uber Trips in between shifts.
@TheJimSkipper
@TheJimSkipper 4 года назад
For $250000, I can hire 4 chauffeurs.
@e.l.5402
@e.l.5402 4 года назад
@@TheJimSkipper for one or two years
@evokem1819
@evokem1819 4 года назад
Szabó Márton 3 would do
@mahdiyussuf9804
@mahdiyussuf9804 4 года назад
"That's not how they're coming to get you, bro" 🤣🔥 This guy's a riot
@mr.condoriano
@mr.condoriano 4 года назад
what a comedian loool I cried when he said that
@louiscypher4186
@louiscypher4186 4 года назад
@Dex4Sure You need more then that, in my country the state police specifically look for what they call "abnormal thermal activity" in bush by flying drones with thermal cameras on them, specifically looking for people living in "unregistered housing" in heavily wooded areas. They are after pot plantations mainly, but they've caught two fugitives so far and it's still in a test phase, not fully rolled out due to privacy concerns. That's just the state police, it ain't the fed's, it's not an intelligence agency or anything like that. The flatfoots can hunt you're arse down whilst you hide in the woods. If the intelligence agencies really want you dead the only way you have a chance is to flee the country and hope that the political fall out killing you on foreign soil is greater then the need to kill you.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 4 года назад
@@louiscypher4186 yep. It's been like that for decades now, if they WANT to find you, they WILL
@jonpierson559
@jonpierson559 3 года назад
My distaste for technology has grown immensely in the last 2 1/2 years.
@MelaninMagdalene
@MelaninMagdalene 3 года назад
I assure you it’s not technology, it’s humanity
@jonpierson559
@jonpierson559 3 года назад
@@MelaninMagdalene so, you can assure me regarding my own personal tastes? That seems a bit absurd and I can assure you that you’re incorrect.
@MelaninMagdalene
@MelaninMagdalene 3 года назад
Jon Pierson You make a wonderful point. I stand corrected. What is it about technology that you find distasteful?
@nathanroberson
@nathanroberson 3 года назад
But your on our phone. If your feeling is true. You could go Amish.
@crepooscul
@crepooscul Год назад
@Jon Pierson I can fully share your sentiments.
@ZedNinetySix_
@ZedNinetySix_ 4 года назад
The most worrying thing about self driving cars, is that people assume they dont have to pay attention in them... Hence the crash...
@zachariebolduc7931
@zachariebolduc7931 4 года назад
"Silicon valley culture needs to die." Damn right. I've never had the chance to find someone that was also woke on the silicon valley mentality and culture. It feels like my fellow tech enthusiast are just willfully blind to how outrageous the industry is.
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL 4 года назад
Truth of the matter is Silicon Valley culture was already dead by the late 2000s. The promise of the web got shuttered into interactive tv and buzzword mission statements. No one attempting a ground floor startup would locate there just due to the expense. All that's left is hipster bros fellating the rotting corpse with what's left of the VC money. And should George come up with something truly disruptive, the established players have enough money to regulate it out of existence. It's a strange time where I wouldn't be surprised if George ended up in jail like Dread Pirate Roberts.
@jackmorgan8931
@jackmorgan8931 4 года назад
Hey Zacharie... Listen. I'm an old man, 67 years old, so I understood, oh, only a few of the words he said. Ah, but his passion about the topic...and hell, I'm not even sure what the topic really is ("self-driving" v "sorta kinda self-driving"? What the hell?) But his passion reminds me of Dr. Frankenstein: "Give my creature life!" I.E., this young man, and you apparently, live in a world I admit is beyond anything I can understand...intellectually. But I do understand that passion that drives it all. So "it," culture, society, whatever you wanna call it, is going to change. That is inevitable. It'll be up to y'all to see if it has a happy ending or holy crap, the creature killed its creator. Psst. For what its worth, I'm rooting for y'all, the young ones with the visions that reject the "corporate" control of everything because that has defined my years on this planet and, well, here we are in 2020. How exactly has that played out, right? Stay safe and be well.
@RogerWilco1
@RogerWilco1 4 года назад
quintessenceSL You’re right generally, and I think the definition of “truly innovative” has shifted to “new technology immune to rent seeking”. They will try to regulate it out if existence but won’t be able. I think bitcoin and open source are the first two. “Open source” isn’t a technology, but a social consensus. That’s true of bitcoin too!
@flodjod
@flodjod 4 года назад
silicon valley has nothing to do with the miles ahead leader of self drive, elon thumbed his nose at those peanut butter eating nerds years ago
@McDoodle44
@McDoodle44 4 года назад
@@flodjod The way Elon is stylized as the next Tech-Jesus after Jobs is actually part of the problem.
@nobody.123
@nobody.123 4 года назад
*”Why does this company exist?”* I’ve had this exact same feeling so many times, all the time, increasingly over the past 5 years or so. Easy access to capital and low interest rates has cracked out Venture Capital funding.
@TheMachoBurrito
@TheMachoBurrito 4 года назад
Can you explain this to me?
@stevezelaznik5872
@stevezelaznik5872 4 года назад
@@TheMachoBurrito Let's say treasury bonds yielded 10% a year. A venture capitalist might ask the question "Why should I invest in your company when I can make 10% a year with essentially zero risk?" That means that shakier startups would have trouble attracting capital. Now let's say treasury bonds are yielding 1% a year. That shakier startup can say to the investor, "What are you going to do, park your money in treasury bonds and not even keep up with inflation? If you want a chance at growing your money, you should invest in a company like mine."
@deepfriedsammich
@deepfriedsammich 4 года назад
@@TheMachoBurrito Moreover, following on what commenter Steve Zelaznik had to say, the banks lend on the basis of comparing how much they have to lend with the potential return on their investment in the loan, discounted by analyzed risks from the business plan presented by the loan applicant. The banks are in the business to make money. When the banks loan money, they "start" at the loans with the most guarantee of paying off the best, and then work their way down the list until they reach the point where the projected likely profit from the loan, discounted by the risk of default, starts to equal the guaranteed return of leaving it in excess reserves at the Fed and drawing interest on it. Essentially, "free money" makes riskier projects (like self-driving cars, or a dot-com mania) look more plausibly likely to produce profit than an unadulterated credit market would. When the Fed plays games with the interest rates and the availability of funds, it disconnects the financial price signals from the actual time preferences of savers and investors. It obfuscates market price signals which tell savers and investors about the actual availability of real resources: capital, land, and labor. This market distortion encourages diminished savings, increased consumption, and increased investment. When the parties receiving the discounted loaned funds actually act to produce goods and services, they discover that the actual availability of real capital, land, and labor have been misrepresented and prices start to rise because businesses are competing for fewer resources than the supply of credit and money had lead everyone in the market to believe were there. When companies are forced to pay more for the resources they need, because of actual scarcity, this can end up invalidating the business plan they developed. The projected profits the plan supposed never materialize and the losses will start to be liquidated when the goods and services cannot be sold at a price that recovers the investment needed to produce and supply the goods and services. This results in a boom-bust business cycle phenomenon in the market. This is a very rough explanation of a phenomenon referred to as the Austrian Business Cycle, so named because it was discovered by economists of the so called "Austrian School," mostly grounded in the works of economists Eugen Böhm von Bawerk, Carl Menger, Ludwig von Mises, etc. If you want to know more about this theory, I recommend visiting Mises.org where there are loads of online resources for learning about economics. Ludwig von Mises was the discoverer of the Economic Calculation Problem in the early 1920's, and he correctly predicted that the Soviet Union would fail because of the impossibility of economic calculation under socialism.
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 4 года назад
buckle up for the everything crash
@The_Ballo
@The_Ballo 4 года назад
It's because interest rates aren't high enough. Bunch of boomers with cash they need for the rest of their golfing lives and they can't keep it in a CD where it will accrue negative interest so instead they have to invest in shit THEY DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT. Why else would 1960s verbiage like "super human" sell anything? Fuck me
@danstewart2770
@danstewart2770 4 года назад
Wow! This guy knows everything in the world - and he exposes everyone else as the stupid scammers they are. It must be awesome to be so self-certain that you are unburdened by humility and an awareness that you might be wrong.
@davidchavez657
@davidchavez657 3 года назад
Trains still don't drive themselves. let that sink in lol.
@paulh2981
@paulh2981 3 года назад
True, but a train accident is one hell of a lot more dangerous than a car accident. Also, commercial planes have had autopilot for decades.
@lolwtnick4362
@lolwtnick4362 3 года назад
wow terrible comparable. not even relatable to traffic loads, routes, changes etc
@ritwikreddy5670
@ritwikreddy5670 3 года назад
My city's metro system has driverless trains. There is a technician in the train to comply with the laws. The on and off switch for the trains are closed circuit due to cyber security concerns, so it requires a human to switch it on. There hasn't been a single incident where the technician had to take over the control, or so we have been told.
@wa7john
@wa7john 3 года назад
Sorry. I think that is more of a union issure then an ability issue.
@Alxbeginner
@Alxbeginner 3 года назад
@@ritwikreddy5670 same in Copenhagen metro. 100% autonomous. No accidents
@gregodify
@gregodify 4 года назад
Holtz seems like a benevolent mad scientist.
@arcowo
@arcowo 4 года назад
Welcome to open-source/hacker culture. It's why Linux is so successful.
@AWESEM0
@AWESEM0 4 года назад
Love it , another Elon Musk in the making
@IsAcRafT
@IsAcRafT 4 года назад
Musk is Hank Scorpio from the Simpsons, even have a flamethrower (don't get me wrong I actually like that character) an authentic madlad XD but yeah... He became too corporate over time, don't like the "all your stuff belong to us" mentality of Silicon Valley/California in general and even less their army of zealous fanboys who defends a total scam like everything should be that way.
@AWESEM0
@AWESEM0 4 года назад
@Sonymnms 52 don't see it like that at all , musk knows how capitalism works and he's using it to his advantage to actually help the world progress ... And he's achieved soo much already , still don't understand how there some of you saying such ?! Odd , anyway , lucky we have inventors like them
@AWESEM0
@AWESEM0 4 года назад
@@IsAcRafT end justifies the means , he's just playing by their rules and making a difference , no point changing politics when companies rule the world , makes him more like Thomas Edison than Tesla , he's an amazing business man and engineer and he actually cares , if it wasnt for musk ice cars would of stayed another century .. great time to be alive
@5hurik0
@5hurik0 4 года назад
let them master autonomous vacuum cleaner first, and then mess with multi-tonne machines on public roads.
@gps9715
@gps9715 4 года назад
Excellent point.
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 4 года назад
I mean it has trouble with chocolate pudding too..
@sanders555
@sanders555 4 года назад
You posted this in 2020? You look American. You must come from a poor family or something.
@alextheskaterdude07
@alextheskaterdude07 4 года назад
Adam Sanders He is correct. What are you arguing? And by the way, America... Where most of the world’s technology and breakthroughs were invented? And he is correct. The Roomba doesn’t count by the way.
@flodjod
@flodjod 4 года назад
anything is better than the current average hoon behind the wheel . plus all this is bs elon is years ahead of him
@imabeapirate
@imabeapirate 4 года назад
what's the point of self driving if we're still required to pay attention? It's a bit paradoxical to say that we're going to solve distracted driving problems with self driving technology, but still rely on distracted drivers as a back up.
@hartunstart
@hartunstart 4 года назад
"Keep eyes on the road - do not read this message" :-)
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 4 года назад
He needs to name it Jesus. Voice activation: Jesus take the wheel!
@MassDynamic
@MassDynamic 4 года назад
Lol
@tomcatt360
@tomcatt360 4 года назад
It's open source. Someone's bound to do this with Comma sooner or later
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 4 года назад
LOL Although I prefer something a little more írritated like calling it 'Hey Jackass'.
@DarthVader1977
@DarthVader1977 4 года назад
🌹 God bless the eternal Nation of Palestine. 🇵🇸 🌹
@kyriss12
@kyriss12 4 года назад
Shortly fallowed by “oh my god we’re all gonna die!”
@zunalter
@zunalter 4 года назад
Here's hoping that they call their third version of their hardware "Tres Comma"
@OlivierTravers
@OlivierTravers 4 года назад
I got a strong Pied Piper vibe from this guy!
@AliKhan-ns5nr
@AliKhan-ns5nr 4 года назад
this guy fucks..
@rasandrew
@rasandrew 4 года назад
With doors that go like this *waves arms wildly*! Or this *waves arms wildly on a different axis*!
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 4 года назад
So glad I started watching the show a couple of weeks ago, I *too* get the references now B-)
@wewd
@wewd 4 года назад
You just brought piss to a shit fight!
@stevematson4808
@stevematson4808 3 года назад
I work in industrial robotics and automation. Engineers are very arrogant. They will claim that they have a sensor for this situation, an algorithm for that situation - ALL ROBOTICS PROGRAMMING IS PRESUMPTIVE. In a factory, a robot is kept in literally a cage for several reasons. One reason is to keep people away from the robot. Another reason is to give the robot boundaries, if it hits the barrier it will overload the motors and hopefully shut the robot down - BUT most import is that the boundary around the robot is kept EXTREMELY PREDICTABLE. that is to prevent random events, people wandering in to the boundary+ area, supplies and materials falling in etc. ROBOTS CAN NOT BE PROGRAMMED FOR every possible random eventuality. A self driving car is nothing but a robot! And the average street and intersection is an INFINITELY varying environment WITH PEOPLE IN IT! The promotion of self driving cars and delivery trucks will result in dangers and death for people. If there is an emerging self driving vehicle industry it will be limited to poor areas where people have no political clout.
@turdfurgeson8250
@turdfurgeson8250 3 года назад
Finally someone in the press is actually doing some research and understand it is a scam. I have, in my possession, tons of papers from various conferences and they say all the same thing. There is no way it will happen soon. No one that I have talked to or heard from at conferences believe the hype. That being said I am super impressed with what George achieved!
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 10 месяцев назад
Most are sheep and protecting their industry. See the doctors during covid and see ageing researchers not wanting to talk about fixing ageing or cryobiologista not wanting to talk about cryonics
@DannySullivanMusic
@DannySullivanMusic 4 года назад
Here before this guy is thrown in jail for not having some random permit.
@deoxal7947
@deoxal7947 4 года назад
Except he's not making the cars. He's giving you the tools so you can get arrested for not having a permit (;
@peromiestiloesunico
@peromiestiloesunico 4 года назад
Do you have a license for that
@somedude9934
@somedude9934 4 года назад
@@peromiestiloesunico Oi mate ya got a loicense for that question?
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 4 года назад
The dude is a con artist and hacker, his product is rubbish, you don't put a makeshift $2 system that barely works in control of a car that risks killing people. Hotz is a con and he'll get sued out of the industry sooner or later. Needs to learn a lesson. Hopefully not by getting someone killed.
@pvt_picklestomp3014
@pvt_picklestomp3014 4 года назад
Looks just as safe as a Tesla. Its almost like the point is autonomy doesn't exist.
@Arbiter099
@Arbiter099 4 года назад
His points about the future of "cars as a service" companies will try to push is spot on, as well as safety. Recall that the Titanic was the safest, most unsinkable ship
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 4 года назад
@Satoshi Analysis Go back on your meds man, you need em.
@jgonz1325
@jgonz1325 4 года назад
Satoshi Analysis where the fuck do you get your information from?
@a13xp52
@a13xp52 4 года назад
I personally hope we never see 100% automation in the auto industry, whether it’s just a feature, or the actual driving mechanism of the car. Main reason is that the insurance companies would absolutely force you to only let the car do the driving, at risk of an accident. I don’t want to see a day where humans can never drive again.
@roseforeuropa
@roseforeuropa 4 года назад
Wow, the interview asked some outstanding questions. This guy is a master at interviewing.. thanks for asking ALL the questions I would have wanted to ask! Especially the last one!
@Aleksandar0100
@Aleksandar0100 4 года назад
This is the only self driving software I'd accept in my car, it's not proprietary. Imagine one morning the state decides you're the enemy, you get in "your" self driving car and instead of taking you to work it locks the doors and takes you directly to prison.
@XHuntinatorX
@XHuntinatorX 4 года назад
ShanKeK ... Not fiction.
@H1TMANactual
@H1TMANactual 4 года назад
_"...we start to build systems that are incapable of rent-seeking."_ This guy is way beyond his time!
@phxf
@phxf 4 года назад
medium.com/@tarunjohn It’s happening too. If you want to get involved, check out projects like Beaker Browser, Dat, TinCan, IPFS, and FileCoin. The distributed web isn’t yet ready to do everything the regular web can do, but, a whole lot of very smart people are working towards it and making real progress. I would not be at all surprised if 5-10 years from now, the coolest things on the internet can only be accessed via distributed web browsers, where everyone participates in making it work, and basically no centralised servers or “clouds” are involved. For many applications, it’s already possible to do, though hard. The tooling and developer experience is improving rapidly. For some applications, it’s still almost impossible, but if we can get trustless computing stuff working, we’ll be able to fully decentralise “cloud” type processing and remove the need for trusted providers like amazon and google, and quite possibly remove the need to raise money through ads to fund server infrastructure
@H1TMANactual
@H1TMANactual 4 года назад
@@phxf I hadn't heard of those, but I have heard of Brave and Blockstack. But I think he's talking about rent-seeking, as it mostly relates to the public sector.
@4t0m5k
@4t0m5k 4 года назад
Sorry, I'm still not getting what he's eluding to. I'm not a native English speaker/US Citizen. What exactly is rent-seeking? Honest question :)
@williamnoll7935
@williamnoll7935 4 года назад
@@4t0m5k Typically it's a company or individual lobbying government for laws that preclude competition. For example, a group of professionals (doctors, lawyers, or barbers) push for laws that require you to obtain services from only 'certified', 'licensed', or 'union' organizations. It has nothing to do with 'rent', only adding a hidden tax on services by making it difficult to allow new competition into the fold.
@fleabag631
@fleabag631 4 года назад
@@4t0m5k William's answer is mostly true, but that's not the full concept. Rent-seeking is attempting to gain any benefit from society without contributing some production. The 'rent' is refers to payment by society (or economic system) to the entity without the entity contributing any additional value in trade. The examples he gave are the most egregious (bad), but it covers a much wider range of behaviour; like voting for welfare or applying for a government grant. Edit: Here's a link to help explain: www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rentseeking.asp
@rehull1973
@rehull1973 4 года назад
The only way to self drive effectively is to physically attach cars to a physical rail that has traffic management capabilities or reliable sensor built into the roads. Then combine that with the current detection systems they are using. The best approach would be to first dump money into the roadways to retrofit them with the required tech to support the cars.
@jmanakajosh9354
@jmanakajosh9354 4 года назад
But that would require PUBLIC investment....and as we all know having public investment in transportation is *the first step to complete and totally Communist Nazism* jk
@axilmar254
@axilmar254 4 года назад
Exactly this. But this is never going to happen, because retrofitting all the roads with rails is simply not possible.
@dontaskwhatkindofmusic
@dontaskwhatkindofmusic 4 года назад
reads headline: "oh yeah that sounds reasonable"
@christophert8419
@christophert8419 4 года назад
I think when George was talking about getting an offer about data labeling, he was talking about the hype behind Scale because it’s the most recent unicorn
@DiggOlive
@DiggOlive 4 года назад
chris thomas it’s also true that the product would take about 5 hours to build in React. It’s a braindead simple app
@passableespresso5068
@passableespresso5068 4 года назад
What exactly does Sclae do again?
@FullMetalPower7
@FullMetalPower7 4 года назад
@@passableespresso5068 outsources data labelling jobs to 3rd world countries and sells the labelled training data to tech companies. pretty lame. you can opensource the whole thing we you want too. maybe thats what google does through recaptcha...
@enmodo
@enmodo 4 года назад
@@DiggOlive It's funny how everyone who says they could build something in 2 hours or even 5 hours never does that. If he can he should do that and use the billions he could make to fund his self-driving hobby. Or maybe he was just talking out of his ass as most people are who say "I could do that!". You'll notice he didn't knock himself for saying he'd have level 4 by 2022 and suddenly labels level 4 as "a scam". It was the same when he first demonstrated his software, it was so limited it was basically a fancy cruise control, three years later he still has a fancy cruise control. What's a scam is when companies like Tesla call something "self driving". That should simply not be allowed. He's right to focus on driver monitoring though - that's really where the canny valley problems of self-driving exist.
@tvcomhk2004
@tvcomhk2004 4 года назад
@@FullMetalPower7 Follow up on Scale's business, tons of "robotics", "AI" companies in the valley also claim to have the autonomous/AI solution when in fact they outsource the harder decision making part of their product to 3rd world countries for a super low wage. KiwiBot....
@McDoodle44
@McDoodle44 4 года назад
This guy reminds me of an actually smart version of Mark Zuckerberg.
@acidtears
@acidtears 4 года назад
Are you implying Zuckerberg isn't smart? A self-made billionaire that was able to make a profit of people by simply giving them a space to accumulate isn't smart? Okay then..
@johanemmenes9236
@johanemmenes9236 4 года назад
@@acidtears If you would know the truth, you would not act as a fangirl of zuckerberg
@NietzscheanMan
@NietzscheanMan 4 года назад
Bet Zuckerberg is crying all the way to the bank about being not as smart as you.
@GumbyTheGreen1
@GumbyTheGreen1 4 года назад
@@acidtears No one who lives in an interdependent society is "self-made". That term needs to disappear from our vocabulary.
@A.Froster
@A.Froster 4 года назад
@@acidtears You don't need to be smart , you just need to have the right idea at the right time. It's more about not being stupid which is actually an accomplishment these days
@shaNk9x
@shaNk9x 4 года назад
Yes! I love interviews with Hotz, especially when its Justin Monticello doing them. He is knowledgeable in the field and asks the right questions.
@reddevil00745able
@reddevil00745able 4 года назад
Wow!!! This guy is in touch with reality. He talks like a real person. Not a marketing drone. Its so refreshing. He makes no crazy promises.
@jaewok5G
@jaewok5G 4 года назад
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic," Arthur C. Clarke
@topg2820
@topg2820 4 года назад
Exactly, if you show a mobile phone to a caveman he'd call it magic too
@AnalyticalReckoner
@AnalyticalReckoner 4 года назад
@@topg2820 yeah but it wouldn't do anything a caveman would care about.
@antoniogerardo7696
@antoniogerardo7696 4 года назад
Hobo magic
@topg2820
@topg2820 4 года назад
@@AnalyticalReckoner pretty sure the selfie cam would shock him
@Darnelj1
@Darnelj1 4 года назад
@@AnalyticalReckoner flashlight.
@kenhiett5266
@kenhiett5266 4 года назад
He's obviously incredibly intelligent. However, as is often the case with people of this variety, he is vastly overconfident of his own prophetic prowess.
@LowValueMan
@LowValueMan 4 года назад
His personality comes off condescending & your right overconfident as well. It’s good to be confident but man it’s hard to listen to him at times. Its like he literally gets high off his own farts or something. That’s how self absorbed this guy sounds at times. I agree with him on some points but then there’s some things where I think he’s just flat out wrong about...& his so call “self driving product” has some major flaws. The same flaws as the corporate giants he shits on...I’ve met people like him in undergrad & they’re not fun to be around.
@WPaKFamily
@WPaKFamily 4 года назад
@@LowValueMan high off his own farts 😂😂😂
@Kuzyapso
@Kuzyapso 4 года назад
He literally fits in with silicon valley
@BattousaiHBr
@BattousaiHBr 4 года назад
@Brad die Irriterend III i'd rather have a society full of those nerdy low self esteem douches that actually improve my life in a tangible way than a bunch of useless hippies like yourself leeching off everyone else.
@RodolfoGeriatra
@RodolfoGeriatra 4 года назад
@Brad die Irriterend III and that means absolutely nothing
@cades4247
@cades4247 3 года назад
I’m never giving up my 1985 Toyota Pickup for a self driving car.
@thenatanrizzolopes
@thenatanrizzolopes 3 года назад
There is a huge difference between autonomous drive and an assist feature, such as comma product. We are seeing auto-pilot as a main feature of mobility but this will only work if 100% of the fleet are autonomous.
@NoNamesLeft0102
@NoNamesLeft0102 4 года назад
"When drivers adhere to the rules, it's alright" Then it won't work in Winnipeg.
@BattousaiHBr
@BattousaiHBr 4 года назад
or anywhere in india.
@rbarnes4076
@rbarnes4076 4 года назад
@@BattousaiHBr You stole my comment!! ;) Anyone who has ever seen India's traffic just can't help but think what 'self-driving cars' would be like there. I"m thinking you'd see the AI equivalent of a nervous breakdown. Would certainly be great for finding bugs in the software!
@GuinessOriginal
@GuinessOriginal 4 года назад
R King driving in India would be vastly improved if it was solely done by self driving cars
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 4 года назад
In Canada, the rules aren't the issue. Winter is. How can a car see the difference between patch of wet road vs black ice 50 yards ahead when there's a break in the coverage of snow on a highway? Will it drive on the hard packed, slick snow that's basically ice or will it scoot over into the fluffier snow that's not in the middle of the lane, but provides greater grip? I can't see fully auto cars in Canada any time soon.
@Schnitz13
@Schnitz13 4 года назад
😂😂😂 Portage and Main...
@jmoney6652
@jmoney6652 4 года назад
I think I’d rather drive my car and go for a walk in the real world, that’s just me though..
@trippybruh1592
@trippybruh1592 4 года назад
I’d rather have everybody have self driving cars so I can relax while commuting on my motorcycle.
@dustinjames1268
@dustinjames1268 4 года назад
I'd rather have cars that never get distracted and react in only milliseconds Car crashes are still a leading cause of death all over the world But that's just me 🤷‍♂️
@jamess4342
@jamess4342 4 года назад
@@trippybruh1592 This guy gets it.
@Lizonndo
@Lizonndo 4 года назад
I’d rather build a portal to my destination. Silly humans
@pablorages1241
@pablorages1241 4 года назад
@@trippybruh1592 LOL... autonomous cars can't even tell when a car is next to them ... you think they will notice a motorbike .... dream on
@UltimateSN1PA
@UltimateSN1PA 4 года назад
As someone who works on the HD maps portion of an Autonomous program, they're used for redundancy. We're talking about people's lives here, you need as much data as possible. Its better to have something to check against than to solely rely on vision.
@ko_fasho
@ko_fasho 4 года назад
"An Auto Tech CEO that actually delivers on his grand promises, doesn't kill people in the process, AND is consistently profitable....doesn't exist. Load me up on more Tesla stock, they'll be bigger than Ford one day." - Wall Street Execs
@tjpprojects7192
@tjpprojects7192 4 года назад
Thousands of people dying every year from driving accidents: Society sleeps. 1 guy dies from "self-driving" car: SoCiEtY pAnIcS! Tesla has issues just like any other company. But compared to the big auto companies, Tesla is doing some great work. Besides, self driving isn't the main selling point of Teslas anyway.
@cugir321
@cugir321 4 года назад
If there's self driving cars then their should be no more auto insurance or limited insurance for natural disasters....the car manufacturers should pay for safety insurance.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 4 года назад
most Insurance company use OUTDATED models , they dont factor in the SAFETY systems found in cars today, they don't factor in the TESLA L4 FSD computer.
@deoxal7947
@deoxal7947 4 года назад
But then it will be closed source and sending all your location data back to them and the way I know is Tesla already does it so avoid them like the plague. nitter.net/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376
@pablorages1241
@pablorages1241 4 года назад
Auto driving car kills someone ... excuse: the driver wasn;t looking ....THEN WHAT IS THE POINT OF AUTONOMOUS DRIVING?
@jaimefish173
@jaimefish173 4 года назад
its not will the auto driving car kill someone, its how many. There are variables that the computer system can never account for. And they never will.
@Mishkola
@Mishkola 4 года назад
@@jaimefish173 Extrapolation is the difference between knowledge and wisdom. Knowledge can be given to any computer, but wisdom is a trait of true sentience. A fully autonomous car won't come until we make a computer sentient, and then we'll have to reckon with the car wanting things we don't.
@trogdorstrngbd
@trogdorstrngbd 4 года назад
@@Mishkola I disagree. A fully autonomous car just needs to prove that it is much better _statistically_ than a human under the conditions in which it operates. Emergency response vehicles for natural disasters, for instance, may take hundreds of years to automate, but driving a truck down the interstate or a cab in a metropolitan area are absolutely problems which can be solved in the foreseeable future.
@markpoidvin5382
@markpoidvin5382 4 года назад
They were testing other areas of the AI. The car saw the woman over 6 seconds before impact and was not supposed to stop. One thing people who say this will never work seem to not notice. The 'safety' drivers have a very difficult time paying attention because nothing bad ever happens.
@pablorages1241
@pablorages1241 4 года назад
@@markpoidvin5382 Teslas using smart summon can't even make it through a carpark at less than 10mph without hitting people or cars ... we have a LONG way to go before auto driving cars are really auto
@SonOroSound
@SonOroSound 3 года назад
"People think this could be hacked" *hacker laughs histerically.
@MelaninMagdalene
@MelaninMagdalene 3 года назад
Haha!
@diggydude5229
@diggydude5229 4 года назад
4:40 Quote from a notorious scammer on the whiteboard behind him. LOL
@matthewevans3718
@matthewevans3718 4 года назад
This guy who’s being interviewed is actually hilarious
@Xevion
@Xevion 4 года назад
His name is in the title. George Hotz.
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 4 года назад
Prediction: after meeting his prediction that trips without disengage become the norm, drivers will get so bored of having to pay attention and not do anything that they will want control back just to help pass the time.
@sfm073
@sfm073 4 года назад
I think you’re exactly right, it’s not in modern humans nature to just sit there.
@gps9715
@gps9715 4 года назад
I do not think this point can be overlooked. This driverless car future, that requires a driver (!) is not going to go anywhere. It's very short sighted, to put it nicely.
@dustinjames1268
@dustinjames1268 4 года назад
@@gps9715 That's like saying cars wont take off back when they were steam powered because it took too long to start up This shit doesnt happen overnight dumbass
@SepticFuddy
@SepticFuddy 4 года назад
@Jesus Christ Not while paying attention to the road, no. You may have missed the part in the video where the developer is specifically aiming to maintain full driver alertness at all times
@gps9715
@gps9715 4 года назад
@@dustinjames1268 LOL, what happened to steam powered cars you idiot? They didn't last because a better implementation came along. Thanks for proving my point you dolt.
@danijelandroid
@danijelandroid 3 года назад
For the guy who wants to buy his company make sure to have him sign a non-competition clause.
@themanyone
@themanyone 4 года назад
This is great. Open source is the way to go. Patching into the car's radar was a good idea, but older cars don't have that. More cameras ought to help make a more universal solution (along with the faster processing of newer devices).
@joemilton3273
@joemilton3273 4 года назад
Lawyers are licking their chops at the thought of these cars on the road.
@rayme4raw
@rayme4raw 4 года назад
Joe Milton 10 million miles driven and not one accident, the lawyers will end up hating this guy.
@reggie3819
@reggie3819 4 года назад
Why is it always someone thinking out of the box that really innovate LOL it's called Uber! I like this guy.
@cmanycrows8400
@cmanycrows8400 4 года назад
Reggie M Likewise 3D printing formerly lauded as the future disruption of manufacturing. The world already has a 3D printer called China. The only thing that could make decentralized manufacturing cheaper than China would be a highly contagious virus that shuts down the whole country.
@reggie3819
@reggie3819 4 года назад
@@cmanycrows8400 good point on manufacturing. I'm trying to tell a friend 3d printing is nice for prototyping in lost cases. Then again depends on the material used. But. The speed and cost can be greater than other means.. Such as cheap conventional manufacturers
@ProductBasement
@ProductBasement 4 года назад
And then later he takes a dump on Uber
@thealchemist6355
@thealchemist6355 4 года назад
Openpilot is not a consumer product and being level 2, the drive must be aware at all times. It also has driving monitoring 24/7.
@thealchemist6355
@thealchemist6355 4 года назад
@@rebchizelbeak5392Apples to Oranges comparison. The difference between Theranos and Open Pilot is that you can see it working. You can buy the dev kit and try it out. There is a growing community around a product that improves the quality of life for people who regularly drive long hours. You may say George is a bit sensational and I'll agree but he is definitely not a snake oile salesman. If you are bit more objective, you'll see the good in this project. Of course, open pilot may not solve self driving but it just needs to be so good at Level 2 that it reduces driving stress and fatigue.
@lloydgush
@lloydgush 3 года назад
AP says this claim is disputed, learn more how you can trust self driving Ubers down here.
@RobertPendell
@RobertPendell 4 года назад
Self-Driving is the wrong term to use. This is assisted driving. You still want to be paying attention to the road.
@RobertPendell
@RobertPendell 4 года назад
@Johnny Dominguez right but to call it self driving is a bit misleading.
@abatos1146
@abatos1146 4 года назад
This guy is golden, hope you guys have him on again in a year or so.
@TrangleC
@TrangleC 4 года назад
I still don't get what this is really good for. For me it is a "All or Nothing" deal. The car either truly drives itself, or I see no use in it. If I have to stay alert and monitor it constantly, I could just drive myself. It isn't as if turning the wheel and pushing the pedals is what makes driving a chore and a strain, it is the fact that you need to stay alert and can't do anything else during that time. This "Type 3" BS just puts a computer middle man into the process of driving, without actually doing anything for the consumer.
@Grk149
@Grk149 4 года назад
TrangleC exactly my thoughts. In addition to that, I still would feel more comfortable controlling the vehicle myself than constantly having to monitor a self driving system in case if f’s up. More stressful in my opinion.
@droptuned83
@droptuned83 4 года назад
Its utter bull shit
@sonnyhernandez8333
@sonnyhernandez8333 4 года назад
In addition to the all or nothing deal it would have to be everybody or nobody uses it in order for it to work. The only way to eliminate the "human factors" is the eliminate the humans from the process. I do however think there will be a rapid change to society toward "driver-less" cars and it will come from a peculiar place. Once all the safety data is complied and "proves" driver-less" cars are "safer" of all the things what will get society to accept it, will be car insurance. The insurance companies, going by the "safety data" will jack up everyone's rate for none driver-less cars and so people will all change and then the real data will emerge, but by that time it's to late society will have changed and there will be no going back.
@Eckendenker
@Eckendenker 4 года назад
Well I think it would start to become like a park assistant. Like he said. A cool new feature. Like I drive around a lot on highways in germany and sometimes its just a 100km stretch with nothing to do other than going straight. Even for religious speeders in a small country like germany this could be a nice tool. Just drive up the Autobahn, pop this thing on and relax. I entirely zone out while driving anyway. Imagine applications like Truck fleets. A real driver in the front and a train of half a dozen AI trucks following along. Also an AI will drive much more economically. Its kinda like in automated production. Sure you still gotta have lots of people checking on the robots, but the robots do the job smarter and faster. Humans are still needed for quality control.
@BryceDoe
@BryceDoe 4 года назад
Good for training the algorithm to eventually get to fully self driving.
@TheBossOfCheezing
@TheBossOfCheezing 3 года назад
i wonder how many other super geniuses like George exist in the world
@georgianbents
@georgianbents 3 года назад
I'm guessing not enough.
@roymarshall_
@roymarshall_ 2 года назад
15:40 I come back and rewatch this part every once in a while
@watchman9198
@watchman9198 4 года назад
Why this guy feel like a future villain in an upcoming Pixar movie??
@sabelch
@sabelch 4 года назад
Because Disney likes a hero who fights for the status quo.
@kevinmiller5467
@kevinmiller5467 4 года назад
4:40 That Elizabeth Holmes quote either aged poorly, was written ironically, or not if they are planning on fleecing investors.
@TheHellogs4444
@TheHellogs4444 4 года назад
He stopped taking investor money a few years ago
@honigwachsreuben
@honigwachsreuben 4 года назад
geohot's dry humour! Source time code: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jm71ahzi5ek.html Explanation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jm71ahzi5ek.html
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 года назад
Local and federal traffic agencies need to get involved and help, by (for example) embedding nodes in the roads that not only indicate the center of the lane (crucial when it is covered by snow or ice or otherwise cannot be seen by onboard cameras) that the cars can read, but also give info about the speed limit, direction, high definition geographical location and so on. This would make full self driving easier and less costly (overall) for automakers to implement. Once this system is in place, MANY things become possible, not the least of which is the virtual elimination of traffic jams. Imagine cars not needing to stop at all (not even for traffic lights) because each car knows where the other ones are and where they're trying to go, so that they can weave through each others' paths without stopping or colliding.
@Imintune...
@Imintune... 3 года назад
Sounds like the Dale of the 1970s. The whole self driven cars seemed to die off in the news.
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