George RR Martin on the Inspiration for Robert Baratheon 

Exactly. His love for Cat and then Sansa was the only thing that humanises the character, once he sold off Sansa he became two dimensional.

He wouldn't do it because he loved her but because it's dumb

Yeah it’s so dumb

D&D kinda forgot that Littlefinger was smart and that switching Sansa for Jeyne means the person he's been training and trying to make trust him will be tortured because of him So much for being one of the most subtle people in Westeros, cause he literally gains nothing from their marriage

@@Ismail-kv3ex Sansa i luv u

Never really looked into the history of how Robert Baratheon came to power. Something about a rebellion. Not really sure

@@ANJIN-p4q It was a rebellion, in Edward IV's case it was against Henry VI, a weak and deceased king, Edward won the crown in the battle of Towton, but couldn't keep it for too long due to his gluttony and addiction in prostitutes and hunts, but regained the crown shortly after

Why sadly? What do you have against the Lancasters? Where they more violent than Edward, or do you prefer a violent monarch?

@@fordhouse8b Oh, hold your horses! I have nothing against the Lancasters buddy, I meant that being betrayed by your own brother is a sad thing, don't you agree?

@@PauloHenrique-to7fo Sure, a sad thing for him as an individual, but if he was a violent man and a terrible ruler, perhaps a joyous event for the world at large.

GODS THE WRITING WAS STRONG THEN

I, THE GODS WERE STRONG THEN

@@abmtz8537 the series should have ended with "The Winds of Winter."

THE BREASTPLATE STRETCHER!!

Love Dan Jones 💕

he's too far up his own arse

That is a good doc

Fun fact : Saint Edward the Confessor was the last of the Plantagenets. The dynasty may have went down in history as "bloody" but it ended with a good man.

He’s also a fraud.

He suck

He is incredibly memmorable in the show imo, he has some of the best season 1 dialogue

@@asongforthemostbeautifulwo6476 Yep, so fun to watch him be himself. Very good job by the actor, I think.

He was my favorite character

Robert is my favorite character always!

Alexander the Great made some places he conquered (via marriages for example) to be self ruled, but faithful to him. You can't be a Conqueror and rule directly every single Kingdom you conquer ( especially if you are a capable conqueror with a gigantic empire) by yourself, you know you are still a human, not a God so to be in every place every single time...

Alexander died too early.

This is still the case to this day. Conquering is easier then ruling. Even if you study current military history, if you’re interested there is a conquest going on right now, in Afghanistan. After studying The Taliban, one has to admit they are resilient, ferocious fighters and brilliant military tacticians. Right now they are conquering district after district. Following the news it’s like medieval style. However I can guarantee you right now they will find conquering 1000000% easier then ruling. They are not statesmen nor politicians (they are nothing lol, other then radical clerics). There goverment will collapse after about 30-50yrs. It’s inevitable. It’s only the natural way of things. These people CANNOT rule or govern a country 🤷🏻‍♂️. Ruling is A LOT harder then conquering.

Henry VIII didn't conquer anything his military expeditions were failures.

@@cashcurtis No, but George was drawing on *other* inspirations from Henry8 for Robert.

To be fair henry VIII is really Maegor the cruel with the many executed wives and even similar looks. But yeah in terms of physique for sure. Henry was a tall buff warrior who got fat later in life. Maegor never got fat and remained an extremely deadly warrior up to his death.

Henry got fat cause he got injured in a joust and developed a horrible infection on his leg, he was also thristy like Robert and produced many bastard children and like Robert only acknowledged one; Henry Fitzroy

It’s much more obviously Edward IV not Henry VIII

henry viii is a bit of a stretch (though i see where you are coming from). i would say Aegon IV would be more along the lines of Henry VIII

Physically, and in his peccadillos, you’re right, Henry is the obvious and nice fit.

Noone is boring in entire series as stannis.. he killed his own daughter.. that man have no mercy ..! He was rightful king but definitely not deserving one.

The man is too willing to give up his own morality. under his reign personal freedoms, like freedom of religion, will be gone. He isn’t the man to lift up a fallen enemy, either. How many would die before there is peace under his iron fist. Most options suck, including Danny, but at least she would kill in the name of protecting the weak, not because of a stringent sense of justice in the eyes of arbitrary law. You have the user name of a fan, otherwise I wouldn’t bother.

@@kiranparhad5578 you should read the books

@@ZackThoreson I find the quote from Donal Noye - “Stannis is pure iron, black and hard and strong, yes, but brittle, he’ll break before he bends” - interesting, because this is not the Stannis we see in the series, it’s the Stannis we hear about before the series started. His flexibility in forgiving his enemies, evidenced by Renly’s initial bannermen, presents a man who is so driven by the notion of duty that he is willing to put his personal grievances aside. A King who is so willing to bend his morals for what he sees as the greater good can only be a good king. His iron fist and legal right only exacerbate this in my eyes

@@henryruston9572 I will concede the point about raising his enemies up. He did it with the wildlings too, I guess. Putting aside “for the greater good” actions that are questionable at best, he doesn’t have the personality for the job. He isn’t a natural leader. His reaction to adversity is to sulk in isolation. Very few people like him on a personal level. Some respect him, for his past victories, but few would put down their life for him other than for the sake of honor or personal gain. Sure, he is fighting for the north and the real enemy, but he fights almost alone because no one likes him.

And how’d that work out for Robert

@@dredasilv8691 touché

It didn't work out for him but it did for edward lol..

Funny enough in the first book Robert even contemplated abdicating his crown so he could become a sellsword commander and go on great adventures in Essos as he preferred that to the boring life of ruling his kingdom. Richard pretty much did just that when he took up the cross and joined the Third Crusade.

Exactly what I though, it’s similar to King Richard the Lionheart

Then the mercenary that was with him flayed the kid alive anyway and then hung him.

No lie, having a Crusade might have actually benefitted Robert’s reign. If he waged and oversaw a war in Essos, particularly against the cities of Slaver’s Bay, a lot of problems would’ve been solved. Robert’s reign was only ever solidified after crushing the Greyjoy Rebellion, another war would further legitimize his power and show his strength of arms. It would also bring more loyal and capable knights and sell swords to his cause. Leaving the realm to men interested in ruling like Jon Arryn, Stannis the mannis, and even Tywin Lannister would lead to some more hands-on ruling from capable men. The Faith may forgive much of his debt and even pronounce it a holy war; in the eyes of the Seven, slavery is an abomination. Same goes for the Iron Bank. Oh they’d never fully absolve the debts but Bravos would certainly support someone crushing their enemies in Essos, and it becomes personal as well as political considering they’re a city of escaped slaves. And being away from Cersei, fighting battles, waging what could arguably (propaganda certainly would help) be called a ‘just war’ would do wonders for Robert’s health in mind and body. I don’t think it would be perfect, in fact it would probably lead to a very different kind of disaster, not even counting White Walkers and supernatural threats no one knows about. Robert would probably die by a stray arrow or get poisoned or accidentally suffocate under a pile of whores. But he would still have preferred it to dying drunk, killed by a pig. And the realm might’ve, maybe, have been spared a War of Five Kings.

@@timothyflynn2738 true. But let us not forget that it could also spare a War of Five Kings if Robert didn't called Lyanna's name while sleeping with Cersei. Because it would mean Cersei wouldn't had aborted their first child , so none of the incest kids would had a claim.

Yes, your Grace

MOAR BOAAAR!

Uh-oh, we need to prepare that breastplate stretcher!

And Stannis and Richard the third

@@bakthihapuarachchi3447 I love those 2 comparisons. Anne Neville and Sansa Stark are very similar even to the fact both were ginger!

Not really because Robert Baratheon didn’t meet Ned Stark. And did Edward IV say *STOP THIS MADNESS IN THE NAME OF YOUR KING* ??

@@ericcheltenham7001 edward iv had his own Ned Stark called William Hastings who was betrayed and unjustly executed by Richard iii despite being a staunch loyalist to the previous king, Richard's brother: edward iv

Would you mind reminding an out of touch american how exactly? I know my British history better than most but these finer details are where I get lost.

Finish the damn book before I piss myself

"I'm the king, I get what I want" - Robert baratheon to George RR Martin

Henry the 8th is known for wife killing so no

Yeah I actually think that Littlefinger is a faceless man

@@ericcheltenham7001 I doubt it tbh. hes too selfish. Faceless men seem nomadic

Shut up.

@@Micolashcage1 there must be a reason why we hardly see him

he like Robert is now plump and happy off hbo money and has no motivation to finish. especially since half of you whined about the ending which is identical to his ending.

Sansa was just too PTSD'd by then

They butchered everything in season 5 (and later).

which clip.

@@Sean12248 as in the documentary

6th

Ad long as he keeps writing Dunk and egg novellas I'm ok with it

At this rate I have less and less faith that he will.

You're the only usurper here.....go back to your Dothraki wildlings....the iron throne belongs to the Lannisters

@@soroushm2498 Hear Me Roar!

Winter is coming

@@soroushm2498 you mean thoose Lannister under the bricks??

@@Danio31b1991 not yet....in the books at least

You’re just mad that people thought he was better King.

Just like daddy eh

Terrible actor? Not at all lol he was very good

Cope targshit

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