Sexual assault, but he didn’t grope nor touch anything sexually. Sexual assault, but he didn’t force himself onto her, even while drunk. Sexual assault, but he never leveraged his power as a CC over her. Sexual assault, but they were both cuddling on up on each other, she got up multiple times only for her to go back to him and resume the cuddling… multiple times. Sexual assault, but he put his hand on her waist/tummy during cuddling, something that is easily seen as an intimate act and can be escalated into something sexual. Sigh… we’re so fucking cooked…
I'm triggered because I can't even type GAAAAHHHZAAAHHH in youtube chat without youtube shadowbanning me. Here you are on the fast lane. I'm so jealous
i just searched georgenotfound on twitter and im horrified. There are so many young teenagers arguing that he sexually assaulted her and there was nothing she could have done to handle this better at any step. With their age on their profile showing they are younger than 15. Parents need to make their kids touch grass, the internet is fucking them up.
Any teenager who thinks this situation was sexual assault should be considered a child until 25 when the brain finishes developing. Clearly they can't handle independence at 18 and have any sense of self agency.
george handled this so well he still responded compassionately to some who did not have his best interest in mind it just proves his character and how he even is able learn something from a very frustrating situation glad he was able to prove his innocence
Its ridiculous how his career is basically over because she was uncomfortable with a situation after it happened. U dont flirt, cuddle, with someone and scream sexually assault simply because u was uncomfortable after u sober up lol i dont care if she never claim to have been sexually assault thats the narrative that shes putting out. We are growing into a society where 18 is consider pedophile, and cudding and flirt with someone is considered rape.
He is partly to blame for not taking a harder stance against the allegations. I can understand he was friendly with her and doesn't necessarily want to be mean, but when someone is fabricating stories about you and getting major support for it, you need to point out how bad what they are doing is so people don't take your stance as an apology, and never apologise for false allegations ofcourse, hell even if they were real and this is all that happened it would be stupid to apologise, I just don't see why someone would do that unless they actually did something wrong and was sorry about it and wanted their own career and future ruined to punish themselves. If you don't want your career to be over, don't apologise and yet even innocent people keep apologising as an attempt to appease the idiots online, which only gives them more fuel to hurt you with, especially your detractors who don't care if you were innocent and just want you gone personally.
Womp womp he ruined his own career by not fighting back and he'll ruin it even more, if you lay down and allow someone to ruin your career with false allegations and you don't stand up for yourself then that's on you. He kept apologizing like an idiot , a fool.
@@EyesDontCry that's the problem with people when it comes to these allegations. I can understand why u wouldn't want to come off to hard on someone saying this about u because people are going to run with it and be like "u see how defensively he is he clearly did it", however to constantly apologize to someone who is painting a false narrative about u, trying to make u look like a predator who prayed on this innocent little 18 year old girl who could do no wrong doesn't deserve any type of apologize. In the long run his career is probably never going to recover from this, he apologize too much and wasn't as hard on her. Even tho he didn't do anything wrong people are still going to make him out to be some type of monster because of this.
Listen, if 18 year olds aren't old enough to consent to cuddling, and can't understand that they shouldn't be drinking (while underage) with strangers, perhaps they shouldn't be voting either. Either she is an adult with agency, or she isn't. I'm really starting to think the age of majority should be raised to 25 when the brain is finished developing. These kids shouldn't be making decisions, voting, or running anything. They clearly can't handle it.
Thank you for bringing reality, and sensibility into this. Hopefully soon people won’t come out with fake allegations that are extremely insulting and take away from real survivors.
Tbh i don't think his career is over his fan base is still there and they are very active, i believe he is being too nice because if he was aggressive she will try to find that as a reason to "yeah he is so rude so he did it" ik it sounds stupid but people on Twitter will believe it immediately, him being too nice is a smart move because there is no other excuse to shit on him now and no other things to add onto the drama like how it happened to dream people kept added more shit into it
I don't blame him for not being meaner to her, he had no support in his community. Both from fans and other creators. They started dropping him for the fake allegations. TBH good riddance you find out who your real friends are when you are at your lowest.
I really just get annoyed at this. Caiti gaslit herself into believing assault happened when it didn't. Bet she was uncomfortable, totally get it, but it wasn't assault. They are drunk, guy flirted with her, she could have stood up and sit next to a friend instead. Didn't happen. He needed the cues to know his moves were unwanted. It's not that deep. If she didn't act like she was rped in front of her friends, just uncomfortable at worst, bet her story wouldn't be so badly recieved.
Idk, I think they should be more aggressive. But it should also be considered that these Minecraft guys get lots of hate and criticism from the commentary community for saying negative things about other people because of their fans.
@@strikeiksp6629 it was in one of the lives where he pointed it out and said from the river to the sea is basically calling for all jewish people to be expelled from the land and disagreed with her making that post saying its anti semitic.
I’ve not commented on this situation on every other creator speaking about it . PapaG is THE ONLY creator I come to after some sort of drama or scandal , even a serious topic, to remind myself that people think like me and aren’t afraid of voicing their opinion regardless of the fact that In this day and age we live in a ‘believe all victims’ and how dare we question a ‘victim’ . What if the victim is a the man being accused of sexual assault, who stand to lose everything because and has to provide receipts, proof and facts to prove innocence. Meanwhile the accuser provides their word only. He did not abuse his power she regrets the fact she ‘cuddled’ and was impressed by his ‘following’. Set your own boundaries. Don’t claim sexual assault after regretting you let someone touch your leg because you , at the time, we’re impressed by who they are. THATS A YOU PROBLEM . Papa G - Thankyou .
George is always like that, he always acknowledge other people even in vile situations, and he didn't want to hear sorry from other people so he just let everything 😢
Only way to stop this go forward with a suit, you will never witness back-peddling and faster retractions. Cellphone records have a great way of telling on you.
When I first heard of her allegations it sounded like his hand was way down south, NOT just resting on her waist?!? And now it really seems that she intentionally worded it that way - hence why she had to read it off her phone. And I'm sure many who have had alcohol had similar feelings AFTER having a sexual encounter. It's kind of as if this is part of drinking culture?.. anyways, they were both drunk and cuddly. She should've just taken the L and moved on. It's kind of a spit in the faces of victims of SA
This whole thing is so dumb. Even if she felt a certain way about being tickled or whatever, that still wouldn't mean he SAed her. No one is in her head but her. If you show no opposition or distress at something, no one is going to think you're uncomfortable. The fact that she leaves no room whatsoever for his point of view on things shows that she has malicious intent. Or maybe I'm assuming she should have more emotional intelligence at her age. The way so many seem to believe this guy's practically a r*pist goes to show that the emotional intelligence of the younger generation is sorely lacking.
Idk what bro is doing this girl is literally trying to ruin your career wait i take that back SHE DID RUIN IT and your real life as well u shouldn't feel sorry for her in the slightes and need to stand your ground people need to start pushing back against these false allegations instead of feeling sorry for the so called victim who has been proven a liar or else it's just gonna continue
As someone from another country why is it a big deal about drinking alcohol at 18. In the country I’m from you can publicly purchase alcohol and a lot of people drink before 18
Its gotten to a point where men (especially with influence or following) need to be extremely cautious about any woman they interact with, this situation and many others show the risk is just far too high.
I think it's important for people to learn to be careful who they fool around with when they're drunk, even if you're drinking too, even if you're barely fooling around. If somebody regrets what they did, all they have to do is point out they were drunk and couldn't consent. Personally I think people get way too comfortable fooling around with strangers when they're drunk. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Also, while I don't believe her story. She mentions they were doing drinking games. I've seen guys use those to take advantage of women by getting them way too drunk. Not everyone does that but there's enough that if she leans into that part of the story, it'll be really damaging.
She changed her story multiple times even posted fake proof and she also didn't mention a lot of details that happened.Also she's 18 not a toddler it's not his responsibility that she was underage drinking,he went to the party to have fun and relax not babysit.Also he can't read minds like when she talked abt him being famous and shit.Her friends r horrible ppl.Him touching her waist (regardless if it was under her shirt or not) while they were cuddling for over an hour does not make him a S assaulter,abuser let alone rapist.Her saying that she didn't need to prove anything was not valid like have we learnt nothing? Also she was of legal age regardless If it was "fresh" or not,she's an adult let's not fucking baby her. Her waiting to post proof (like the recording thing or wtv) is so stupid.Like what was the point of that. Their friends shouldn't even have gotten involved in it at all. George had every right to think everything went ok when she kept messaging him weeks later being friendly. Saying that George was victim blaming while he was just trying to tell his side of the story and give context r as understanding as a wall. Ppl r acting as if he made her get drunk and took advantage of her💀 Also didn't she literally admit that she felt happy and lucky at the time and then regret it it later.Correct me if I'm wrong but that does not sound like SA. What she felt is valid,regretting it is valid but that does not make him a rapist. The way she worded everything...bruh. Ppl going at George,doxxing him and sending death threats,basically cutting him off and not even letting him explain his side of the story. Yall coming at George for making a prerecorded video as if it was the most insane thing but totally dismissing the fact that she was reading off a script (and still ended up making "mistakes" LMFAOO). They were both drunk,both touching each other so from these ppls logic they're both victims of each other. Hilarious. I do think that ppl r totally being biased in this situation and thinking emotionally instead of logically. This was not SA,abuse,grooming or rape. Yall need to delete twitter ASAP.
lowkey i think if he does a content shift and occasionally plays mc his clout can sky rocket then he can shit on dream and say " LETS GO BAND FOR BAND RN"
yo did u notice how she just forgot to mention the fact they were cuddling for an hour before he slipped his hand on her waist i didn’t even notice that
we arent nor is dream's fandom and i wish everyone would understand this. the reason why he hasn't lost his entire career is because we saw through caiti and we also educated the children who are here to make them see why and that they can make their own decisions on whether to continue to support him or not
