Gerald Horne: Counter-Revolution of 1776: Slave Resistance and the Origins of the USA 

I was just listening to Marc Lamont Hill and someone suggested he interview Dr. Horne. Hill thought it a great idea. I then went to amazon to see some of his works and Google images to see him. I knew of him before this evening, but I'm sad to say 'barely".I'll be ordering 1 of his books to start with; I imagine many will follow that one.

I hear you. The magic number for me was 7. After 7 times listening carefully through (and pausing here and there to listen to some of Dr. Horne's other lectures on the subject matter, finally, I think I mostly understand what he's talking about. Thanks to all the years, Dr. Horne dedicated to research to discover this wonderful information and most importantly, making the critical connections that he does, people like me and you, and are smarter and better understand out past (and present). Americans particularly can greatly benefit too by beginning to detach the myth that has been assiduously crafted (through the media, Hollywood, and through teaching in "schools") in the United States which makes it appear as though the United States entire existence is the result of a wonderful human experiment born of mutual cooperation and democracy, rather then the reality, that is rise was the result of the systematic liquidation and genocide of a 100 million inhabitants with sophisticated cultures and the capturing, shackeling and dragging millions of human beings from Africa and across the ocean, where, (if they survived the horrible journey) were sold into slavery and forced to work for free, under the lash as free labor (and bred) which helped to produce eye watering profits for the enslaving class who were able to built a country.

Same

He is beyond brilliant-the sheer scope and depth of his knowledge is matched by his LOVE of humanity. Genius- and that is not hyperbole.

Well said. We Don'T! BUT Humanity DOES!

… yes we do… just like ALL THE OTHER BLACK HEROES who arrived before he did… we “deserve” them ALL!…

Not afraid, for God is in charge People are leaving the deadly and expensive USA. We must love 💕😘 one another, and stop destroying each other. We must eliminate sellouts and evil demons who are destroying us. I left the USA at 79,due to it being deadly and expensive. I did not want to be eliminated, until God calls me.nor did I want to eliminaste anyone trying to get into my home, which I had heavily blocked in all rooms and the a/c. And I was ready to give out a dirt nap in and out of my home. I am the nicest lady, but I always have some thing to defend myself in or out of my home.All knives are removed from .my kitchen, and only I know where the weapons of mass destruction are located, I left two marriages. When there were deal breakers and friends with both husbands. I had one daughter after 10 years of marriage , and I did my best with God to teach her to be moral, honest, and treat everyone the way she wanted to be treated. I sugar coated nothing from her early age. Greetings from cool Querétaro God knows the truth Send these killers to.war zones. God knows best. I just moved to a safe,Warm,, and less expensive country at 79. I paid to have my apartment emptied,,, and I rented a beautifully furnished apartment, that included all utilities, maid, security, groceries delivery and laundry. God is in charge, and he told me to leave the USA for Querétaro at 79. Scare tactics do not work with me, for everyone dies, rich or poor etc. God is in charge. You kill bodies, but release souls.. Do not kill unless self defense Solutions: Keep your people in their own country and put the military on all borders to keep them out. Send all criminals to war zones. Traitors. Inside traders, ay for play kickbacks are criminals also I prepped for 6 months, and gave away preps when I left the USA for Querétaro,and I have my 6 months back from home delivery. USA is too deadly and expensive. $100k should be direct deposited in USA bank accounts age 18 and up tax free. I left the USA at 79 for Querétaro. Direct deposit of 100K to all USA citizens, so you can move where you can afford and it is safe Thank you. I left the USA at 79. $100k to all citizens 18 on up tax free.

The far right think we don't deserve him, or Angela Davis or Eugene V Debs etc etc. Our challenge is to grow the coalition needed to institutionalize norms based on the truths he reveals.

You right too!

4:20 where is the skit / sketch

Do not call upon God, knowing that these kinda people (marxists) do not believe in God.

The world genius, just like the word brilliant has lost all meaning.

@@khalidnamar8723 The dumbing down education in the US was done intentionally. This will be the last generation

@@lookingfortruth1930 you are correct.

True.

Global treasure. His concern is GLOBAL.

I wish Americans would get this through there ignorant thick skull's.

This is a good idea

Move to beautiful West Memphis in Arkansas, clown.

Hayti 1804🇭🇹 Justice ⚖️ for Black people. Justice ⚖️ Pour Peuple Haitien 2023 Revolution ⚖️ Reparations to Haiti.

Your low IQ makes you very easy to manipulate... Go play the victim, it's what you are good at.

@chance - STFU, clown!

49:00 please I dont get Kenya and Jamaica reference

@@omalone1169 Barack Obama and Kamala Harris, respectively.

Can you please explain the band-aid metaphor you're referring to ?

Well there you go! It was God's providence that saved Merry olde England.

Yohann Last :: Thank you for that informative history lesson.

Excellent exposition and argumentation. Enjoyed the narrative.

Now don't stop short of the what if scenario, and tell of what the Spanish Empire would gave done, free from 'interference' in not just South, but North America

It would be wealthy business men, aka coorporations.

Major Mazzaroth The people in North and South America who profited are long time dead. North America , specifically United States has been paying reparations in the form of social programs such as food stamps and housing and all other similar programs since the early 1960's.

@@cattycorner8 Lame AF .We are coming for you.

@@cattycorner8 majority of the payments go to whites lol. It is impossible for those programs to be deemed reparations to descendants of slaves when the white population benefits the most from it. Same as minority quotas, it benefits mostly white women who count as a "minority", even though they benefited from the racist oppression in the USA against Black slaves/peoples more than any other group outside of their undoubtedly white husbands/co-conspirators; the never-ending trick bags of the Europeans.

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53:00 where is this critical voice from/of Australia

I think that may be a given in the book, he does give a bigger picture where old lower Quebec and St. Augustine privateers were squeezing from the north and south directions. There was even a French Fort in present day Jacksonville. Washington wanted to make Michigan his farmland, but got wiped out at Pittsburgh by 1763.

@@robertrichard6107 have you a source?

@@omalone1169 he literally just said the book lol

THAT'S BECAUSE UNCLE THOMAS SOWELL IS A POMPOUS ASSHOLE!!!

Feon Jun Of course not! Look how blacks as a people have survived and thrived. Today they are in every walk of life, excelling in their fields : Doctors, Teachers, Authors, Economists, Surgeons, Attorneys, Judges, Political Leaders, Entrepreneurs, Plumbers, Electricians, Contractors, Pilots, etc. etc. and have overcome all the problems their mothers and fathers had to face.

true, just another myth, and substantiation, of why the great religions of the day hoarded all information/knowledge from the masses.. keeping all peoples, some more than others in a state of ignorance, and superstition.. sadly still today we still give these religious icons a superior status, and as long as you're putting pennies in the plate. they care not who you are, nore what race.. enjoy the day -- madd

Nobody takes Thomas Sowell serious outside of the people who use him to speak their doctrines

@@Afrometa how come

I agree with a lot of the things in this book but I think he's giving the British too much credit. The only true revolutionaries in opposition to the patriots were the enslaved rebels and "radical" white abolitionist unicorns.

Armed by the Spanish. Florida was Spanish territory up until 1820s Subsequently they were fighting Seminoles a majority of who were run away Africans.

Spanish

@@Aquil84 thank you that confused me so much .

What were the 21 colonies

nice try

You mean all of the Democrats in the south? Yes that is true.

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True! And that fact completely disproves Horne’s thesis! Horne is a fraud, like The 1619 Project.

Our history is either "critical race theory", victimization based, white washed, or glossed over. If it doesn't fit that mold it isn't taught

1:53:00 Shang Dynasty was black?

Better get out your light saber Hans and teach'm a lesson.

cominroitover80 Well, it doesn't really matter that those who perpetrated it are dead, because the wealth that they acquired is still in the hands of their descendants & white america in general. Some people are so misinformed that they believe that the wealth acquired through slavery in USA back then, had no impact on the economy of USA today. That is absolutely false, so there's really no requirement for the actual perps to be alive today.

+cominroitover80 Well, there is a concept called "an heir" who inherits from his fathers: shall they inherit the profit alone? Do they not inherit the debt as well? The present heirs are reaping the evil fruits of their fathers wicked labour and praising their fathers to the heavens for all to hear. Does it not amount to endorsement of what their fathers did? Have you not heard about how "great" George Washington was? Have you not heard how "great" Thomas Jefferson was? Were they not slave owners? They will mourn with Jews over some doubtful holocaust of 6 million but never apologize for 400 years of brutalization and dehumanization of Africans to the tune of over 100million.

cominroitover80 It seems you are quick to indignation but are not patient to understand. I am not citing jews in a culpable way but using their cause as example of the hypocrisy of americans and europeans who mourn for a few jews they did not kill but will not mourn for 100 million africans they brutalized and lynched and.murdered. Neither am I asking for "reparations". They can keep their bloodied money. Let us endure hardships righteously, and build our countires thereby, and not accept blood money of the wicked.

The Bantu what the hell are reeds? I mean yeah, european jews are white at the end of the day and they did exploit the black community like every other groups of whites, but the fact is that they did step out of their way to help the civil rights movement, and yet most holocaust deniers in the US are black people, so it's just a bit ironic. black nationalists have a special hatred for jews that they don't have for regular white people, which just doesn't make sense to me.

cominroitover80 Were there no jews in south africa at the height of apartheid which was contemporaneous with civil rights? Where were the good jews then? Did they not trade gold.and diamonds whiles the zulu were being dehumanised and brutalized? Did they not profit from the weath of the zulu whiles the zulus had dogs and guns turned on them tearing them apart and gunning down their school children? It seems you yourself do not know black history in US where jews are concerned. Lookup David Levy Yulee. So a few jews marched in the 60s when 1000s more sold slaves is to their credit? How are they friends of blacks when they deny any culpability for their role in slave trade and their politicians supported slavery and segregation? Choose your friends wisely. Seems you liberal blacks have no honour and sleep with those who raped our mothers, brutalised them, lynched your fathers, killed babies - now you call them your friends and want to marry their sons and daughters? Black men who think like this will never build a nation or strong community any where and will be always exploited. Do not confound foolishness with love or some notion of universal brotherliness.

***** True. We must not distract ourselves but must stay focused.

+The Bantu Very well said. The people to whom you refer want to associate themselves with the so-called 'positive' aspects of the KKK-like figures you mention, yet want to not only dissociate from but completely deny their ultra-rightist legacy. Not only that, but as you also mention, they want to reap the benefits left by those monsters - the stolen land and world's biggest economy, which is based in majority part on slavery - but not repay it in any way to the people from whom it was stolen. Thus they themselves take on the mantle of ultra-rightism and genocide, while preferring to view themselves as 'liberals', etc. Which also reveals how sheltered they are from world and critical opinion in their corporate propaganda bubble.

graniteminerman peace and love brother. Let us make sure our children understand and never forget like we do. It is our godly dignity that we dont forget our history regardless of any assimilationist and pacifist.

The Bantu the truth is that the nation's founders were indeed great men, and the nation they founded is the greatest ever i n the history of the world. The United States was the only country where a peasant could rise to the level of a king. That is why today people are still literally dying to come here. We all have an equal opportunity to succeed, to achieve our dreams of a decent living wage job or career, our own home for our families, to live in a beautiful, safe neighborhood with good schools.

@@cattycorner8 That's your view of the US by your subjective criteria. The power brokers in the US are a wicked and evil people and it continues. Not only US. All nations that have sought global domination have done the worst evils to humanity, including the Arabs, Ottomans, British, Romans, etc.

No, they identified by country, i.e. french,English etc.

What are you saying?

There's probably a lot of Reaganite types in that audience he didn't want to upset up there in Santi Barbie where Gipper had his ranch.

@@robertrichard6107 explain

What if he is just being a politician?

same reason Trump says he is the least racist person in the room. Nobody admits to being the human trafficker and child rapist in historical documents. Public relations isn't a new thing.

@@edavila1 :: That was "well-said" especially about PR not being a new thing. Famous ("great") people w / writing skills know how to BS on paper for future generations, especially for future historians.

@@etonwetonw:: Good question !

Jefferson was a big wineO.

The emancipation proclaimation was a transfer of private property of citizens to the government (the two confiscation acts prior to The Ep) So the enslaved (not slave) africans weren't set free and slavery never ended.

His point is there's ambiguity of the founding slave owners 'Declaration of Independence' granting freedom to 'whites' who weren't indentured servants; merchants, artisans, farmers, then naming Indigenous people savages etc, then by 1783 after Shay, kept their balance of power over non slave owners by counting their slaves as 3/5's of a vote. The Mansfield decision was made in 1772, so Jefferson and the likes knew abolition was coming.

how dare you bring facts into this discussion

@@robertrichard6107 Slavery was never really a pressing issue for the most part. Many of the founders found slavery to be morally objectionable but naively assumed it would just go away on it's own. There's no evidence to support the thesis that the American Revolution was fought to preserve slavery.

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IT WAS NOT RAMBLING IT WAS COMPREHENSIVE! AND OBVIOUSLY WAAAY OVER YO HEAD!!! READ THE BOOK ASSHOLE!!!

I don't think he's trying to argue with anyone is he? That said if you are right and he is then facts DO make a convincing argument IMHO....to people who give a shit about facts anyway. If you aren't convinced by facts then good luck.