@@ClassyBaxyEven so, one person is enough to ruin the reputation of the whole company. Especially if it's a pilot since they are like the faces of the company and the ones whom the people put their trust on.
Ye and then this happen, so I guess now updated the doors or something ( never heard about this news so I don't know if there really is an update, but feel free to correct me, since I only just discovered this case just now)
@@isaacwilliams2147I think they now check the mental state of their pilots before every fligth now. Like by sending a Doctor. Because this case was because of the pilot Depression,but there other cases where the pilot took medicines or forgot to take them and then blackedout making the airplane crash.
@@Mine-mq5oz no no no, they never changed anything to the door. They made a new policy that if one of the pilots wanted to leave the cockpit, a flight attendant would have to go inside to make sure the inside pilot doesn't s**cide.
Welp what I said was completely nonsense, can't believe that this guy got 0 likes to 690 likes good job buddy Edit: now 1k damn Edit: now 7k likes lol I was really here first ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠟⠛⠉⣩⣍⠉⠛⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⠋⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⢾⣿⣟⠁⠀⣠⣾⣷⣄⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⡇⣠⣦⡀⠀⠙⢿⣷⣾⡿⠋⠻⣿⣷⣄⢸⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⡇⠙⢿⣿⣦⣠⣾⡿⢿⣷⣄⠀⠈⠻⠋⢸⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⡀⠀⠙⢿⡿⠋⠀⢀⣽⣿⡷⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣄⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣿⡿⠋⠀⠀⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣤⣀⣙⣋⣀⣤⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣴⠶⠿⠟⠛⠻⠛⠳⠶⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⣠⣶⣿⣿⣶⣖⠶⢶⣤⡀⠀⠈⢿⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⢀⣴⣿⠋⠉⠉⠀⠀⠈⠉⠛⠿⢿⣷⡀⠀⠈⢷⡀⠀⠀⠀ ⡾⠉⡏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠙⢦⡀⠘⣷⡀⠀⠀ ⣷⢰⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢳⡀⢸⡇⠀⠀ ⢻⡜⡄⠀⢀⣀⣤⣶⣶⡄⣴⣾⣿⣛⣓⠀⠀⣧⢸⣇⠀⠀ ⢈⣧⣧⠀⢩⠞⠿⠿⠻⠀⠘⠙⠃⠛⠛⠓⠀⣿⣻⠿⣷⠀ ⢸⡵⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢻⣇⡟⠀ ⠘⢧⣿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢧⣤⣤⣶⣗⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠜⣽⠁⠀ ⠀⠈⢿⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣀⠀⠀⠀⢠⡟⠁⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠘⣇⠀⠀⠰⠋⠉⠙⠂⠀⠉⠀⠀⠀⣼⡅⠀⠀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠹⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⣠⠏⢻⣤⡀⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⡷⢦⣄⣀⣀⣀⣀⣤⣴⡾⠃⠀⠘⡿⠙⢶ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢨⡷⣤⡀⠈⠉⠉⢁⡴⠋⠀⠀⠀⣸⠃⠀⠀
there is a password for the door pilots could use back then and still can today however there is a lock system in the cockpit making it impossible to open the door even if they use the emergency code. The pilot used all the emergency codes but could not get in.
Guys i dont rlly think u all understand this. U all dont even know the reason why he did this. He might have been a very nice person but everyone treated him like shit so he just gave up on humanity. There are ppl out there who deserver kindness and respect.
@@user-uf9vz3sp6vThat doesnt change the fact that HE too INNOCENT lives with him for no reasons. Im depressed, suffer of social anxiety and suicidal when I was planing to off myself (its all in the past now) I didnt saw me include people in it. In fact most suicidal people dont want their familly and friends to suffer. Thats why we most of the time pretend to be happy a day or two before the attempt so they dont feel guilty or that its their fault. This was intentional, evil and calculated.
In case anyone needs context: The co-pilot, Andreas Lubitz, was planning to commit suicide by crashing the plane with a controlled descent. When the captain was out of the cockpit, he locked the cockpit door and began to bring the plane down. The pilot banging on the door trying to get in was the captain, and sadly the door didn't budge which caused the plane to crash into a hill, leaving all 150 occupants dead. He had previously been treated with suicidal tendencies and was told unfit for work by his doctor. Andreas Lubitz decided to keep this information from all of his employers to be able to crash the plane
I live nearby to where the pilot and his family lived (Montabaur/Germany). His family actually had to move to another city because they got a lot of threats and hate from others. just sad to see how one man can destroy so many lifes plus his family's for his actions.
context: the co-pilot of the plane was either mentally ill or depressed. he had a plan to crash one of the flights he was on. as soon as the pilot left the cockpit, he closed and locked the door. as he did that, he pitched the nose down a bit, crashing it and killing everyone on board. and another thing is, this was in 2015, so after 9/11 they had updated the doors of cockpits to be strong, even a hammer can’t take it down. EDIT: there was also a crash before 9525, in which the pilot(?) was mentally ill, so he decided to crash the plane in the same manner. the plane slid, and disintegrated immediately
on the cvr, you can actually hear the captain saying “open the damn door” and banging sounds coming from outside. its not public but thats all the public information i can get
I feel awful for the pilot…. The Panic, Fear and Guilt he must of felt when he realised he couldn’t get in and therefore couldn’t save everyone’s lives…. He dedicated his last moments to attempting to save everyone.. Rest in peace everyone who lost their lives in plane crashes 🕊 edit: holy shit. 2.2k likes? thx. anyway, Rest in peace to everyone who died in crashes again 🕊❤
@@dhofandacidcilcoolwhich goes back to what he says. he in turn becomes the shitty life he wanted to run away from to other innocent people. do not blindly emphasize with someone who is clearly in the wrong.
maybe someone make a service. customer pay for tools like gun or explosive and kill him himself in special room or space. everyone has rights to kill self. and in prison too especially lifetime prisoners, give them option if they want they use it or not use it, to kill themselfs. no force only if they wish. explosive near head or gun. some of prisoners maybe tired to live. save money and send to children for operations etc.
I remember watching this episode on TV. As I recall, the investigation/documentary revealed the pilot’s doctor recommended he take time off, because of his depression.
And it s ok to fear something like that. Dont know why everyone act like one should be ok with flight by all costs, but it s not like that. I personally hate airplanes and i will take it again only if there is no other choice
For those who don't wanna read long paragraphs: Co Pilot is suicidal, locks himself in cockpit while captain is in the washroom, captain can't get in, crashes the plane on purpose, no survivors.
So... he was told by his doctor to not get on a plane because he was suicidal, neglects to inform his employers of this fact, gets on the plane and decides "I'm going to be a selfish c__t and take everyone with me. Because if I have to be miserable then so do their families!" and proceeded to crash the plane. I know depression and suicidal urges are not simple things, and those that suffer from both deserve love and to be looked after and helped. But there genuinely is no excuse for what he did. Depression or no depression what he did was disgustingly selfish.
😂 Clearly you have no idea what depression does to people when it finally hits you at its worst I find You Disgusting for not understanding how it's deadly and how Serious depression can get no I Don't approve of those people dying on that plane and nor Do I approve of his actions I do Find it deplorable but You have to understand the Human mind is Nothing More than a Time Bomb When it's filled with nothing but mental illness instead of just blaming the pilot you need to blame the company as well It's the company's responsibility to make sure they're pilot mental health and well-being are in check and that pilot was not. Seriously please for the love of whatever you believe and actually learn about depression before you start speaking because depression can kill a person at any time at any moment and the terrible thing is it's a slow fucked up process and if anyone does survive it they are more than likely to try again and again and again. Until they find a more permanent solution.
@G36-Strelok Actually it's a chemical imbalance in the brain. It can happen to anyone but basically it throws every single emotion you have asunder. It's more biological than biblical, if ya get me.
That's the problem with aviation law - if you're grounded for a serious mental depression/ illness or have expressed your will to end your life , you are completely blackballed from a career you've lived your whole life and can never return. So essentially you lose everything you've worked your whole life for and can destroy families etc. You might say good , that no one being treated by a doctor or on medication should be able to continue but the catch is , instead of close medical supervision and consistent monitoring , you have pilots who are too terrified to say anything for fear of losing their entire worlds which drives them to try self medicate or ignore and hide the problem which is how you get this. I fly and have seen this more than once from colleagues , not necessarily depression but other threatening medical conditions, surgery while abroad on "holiday" in order for it not to show on medical or medication history , purely because all of us know that being honest to the authorities would result in our entire worlds collapsing. You'd be quite surprised to learn how many do this.
The reason he didn't inform his superiors about his mental health was not of fear of losing his job but simply he didnt have to. Back then in Germany it was optional to tell your boss about your mental evaluations. Such was the law to protect ones freedoms.
Germanwings 9525 was a flight from Barcelona to Düsseldorf, at cruising altitude the Captain left the cockpit and whilst gone the First Officer locked the door and started a controlled descent into the mountains below. The First Officer had suicidal tendencies and was declared unfit to work by his doctor however he kept this information from his employer. 144 passengers and 6 crew were killed and now there must be at least 2 crew members in the cockpit at all times.
@@itz_potatoes7688still got that flight soon? If so, just try to focus on where you’re going to when you prepare for flight and when you get in the air, focus on things that with suck you in and will gain all your attention(books, game devices, earbuds for movies, etc.) for me the worst part was popping ears and felling light headed for, like, 5 ish seconds when the wheels leave the ground and you climb. I was terrified at first and thought about all, and i mean ALL, the things that could go wrong (loved reading 9/11 books or shows/movies…. Idrk why…) anyways it was pretty fun and was like riding in a car. Looking out the window on the way up or down helps too! (Terrified of heights but was completely fine with looking out a window where i could see a 2500+ foot drop 🤔 im quite the weird person.) hope you have/had a good flight!
This is why it's important for companies to always take care of the mental health of its employees, especially work that has so many lives depending on it, like a being a driver or a pilot.
The thing is, many of his doctors declared him unfit to fly but he just did not tell Germanwings. (I would recommend watch the fern video on it) Also, the horrid act of pure evil he committed was not suicide but a planned mass murder by a man who thought so highly of himself that he valued his one insignificant, pitiful life over the innocent lives of hundreds of others.
@@Corteslatinodude you stop being a valuable employee and they start seeing you as a liability. I asked for help for my narcolepsy and they decided that i may be depressed and maybe the job (aircraft mechanic) might not be suited for me. I quit and went to a different company and make a lot more where im treated as a person and not a number
@DixieNormous235 I apologize, but between the 0.001% chance assistance doesn't help and 150 people die needlessly. The blame put entirely on the company with hundreds of thousands of dollars lost in reparations and the PR nightmare it would bring. And one singular employee being fired, removing that chance completely? It makes sense to fire the worker in 100% of the cases. Although it isnt a perfect analogy. You wouldn't hire a pedophile to work at a school, would you?
it happened in the French Alpes. the responders had to work really hard in that mountain. As a French I was moved by the dignity of the German families who took it personal to thank them for that hard work. From far the saddest situation I ve seen with a plane crash in my country. Bless those innocents wherever they are now.
sometimes it isn't that, it's this... Possibly, someone the government knew was meant to inherent money was on that plane, or someone promised that man his family would become wealthy if he did it... It is Very Plasible Them 2 Hypothetical Hypothesises.
@@GappaMagix8566well still why would he do that just to get his family wealthy. That’s really dumb. I’d do it to keep my family alive but not to get wealthy.
@@Mcd_hutaoit doesn’t matter if he was suicidal it could of took his life in peace there were children, babies, and teenagers on the plane so much to live for and he took EVERYONES all 152 passengers lives all because he was suicidal.
The co-pilot was just depressed and Wanted to end his own life but he couldve stayed home and do it to him self that baby had a life and a future to live for...
@@dark555_rmelcrackdarkv9 translate: Just because you want to hurt yourself doesn't mean that others will agree with you and have to pay your consequences. Just like he said that
@@yhfhdcfbut the thing is, someone was bound to hijack a plane if the cockpits were easy to hijack. It just happened that 9/11 was when they did it. So things were changed after it.
In the blackbox recordings you can hear the other pilot desperately crying and trying to break down the door, i believe there should be a master override code to all planes so that this never happens again
ATC can technically take over the controls of a modern aircraft but that would need 2 party authentication from both atc and both pilots. Im not sure if military atc can bypass the 2 party authentication Im assuming the atc of this flight already tried that but since it was hijacked bybthis retarded depressed guy there's no other way to do it
Even if you have nothing to lose doesn't mean you're going to want to kill countless people. Just because you don't value your life doesn't mean you'll drag others with you.
backstory: germanwings 9525 pilot had to use the restroom leaving the copilot alone by himself. he had depression but he was also suicidal and had to fake tests in order to fly again. so he was alone and since 9/11 all cockpit doors had to be opened from inside and the doors were very strong so the copilot locked himself in and then the pilot was banging on the door and the plane was decending rapidly and it crashed and hit a mountain edit: this is from memory so things may not be accurate
"Had to be opened from the inside" and "Since the co-pilot wasnt familiar with the instruments"?! Do you usually comment stuff you know nothing or very little about? 🤔🤷🏻♂️
U dont know anything, he was familiar with the instruments, but he was suicidal and killed everyone on the plane cuz he crashed it. Please dont spread misinformation and dont make the copilot seem innocent
From what I remember (correct me if I’m wrong), the main pilot went to take a bathroom break and while he was gone, the co pilot started descending the plane at a rapid pace to which the main pilot had gotten out of the bathroom and saw what was happening. So he tried to open the door but it was locked due to a feature that prevented hijackers to get in. He banged on the door yelling “OPEN THE DAMN DOOR” repeatedly as it kept on descending. But the co pilot didn’t listen then it sadly crashed. Turns out not too long back he had a doctors note saying he was mentally ill and couldn’t fly but he managed to hide it.
The saddest thing is is that some people were on their first and last flight, there were kids who died young, there were people who never got to say goodbye to their loved ones…fly high to the people who died 🕊️🕊️
Катастрофа A320 под Динь-ле-Беном - крупная авиационная катастрофа, произошедшая во вторник 24 марта 2015 года между городами Динь-ле-Бен и Барселоннет (Франция). Авиалайнер Airbus A320-211 авиакомпании Germanwings выполнял плановый регулярный рейс 4U9525 по маршруту Барселона-Дюссельдорф, а на его борту находились 144 пассажира и 6 членов экипажа. Через 30 минут после взлёта самолёт внезапно перешёл в быстрое снижение и ещё через 10 минут врезался в горный склон в Прованских Альпах и полностью разрушился. Все находившиеся на его борту 150 человек погибли
I haven't seen a comment about the (for me) most horrifying detail of this incident: that was the return flight from a school class (i think it was their final trip, sorry for the bad translation, I'm German which makes this scenario worse). Imagine, being like 14-16 years old, on your flight back home. You can't wait to show your parents or partner all the pictures and tell them everything. Maybe, you think about exams or whatever you'll do after school. But then you feel and see how the plane is slowly getting lower and lower. Imagine the fear.
Your translation isn't bad, don't worry! @britishtea2117 has a similar comment to yours, on how he/she worked in the said school and there is always a candle lit for all the victims until the day ends. Oh, God. The kids. Before watching this vid, I didn't even know about this crash, especially the students' ages. They have barely started dreaming and working for it, and someone else who lost their purpose in life had to bring them down with him.
@@cathj2301dont forget! On that flight, there were even children and sadly even babies who were on board. Sadly those young and short little lives were taken that day because of a suicidal man who decided to end his lives and others on a plane.
@@Shawn_Frost Doubt it, the CVR only has microphones in the cockpit. But it is highly likely. If I was in the cabin I would most definately had some kind of meltdown.
Yes and apparently this flight had school passengers (probs abt 14-16) on it, which I think just makes the co pilot even more evil. I don’t care how depressed he is, it was selfish and morally wrong to kill others in the process of suicide. I’m normally a very empathetic person and I try to relate to ppl as best as I can, but I cannot feel even an ounce of empathy for this cruel co pilot
@@szymondemski2557 It does, a pilot controls the plane and in this scene he was locked out, and the co officer is the one that helps out in other stuff and in these scene the depressed one is a first officer, SHERLOCK.
@@floseatyard8063hundreds of people can fit in a large commercial aircraft, flying wouldn’t be affordable if every plane was the size of a private jet.
@lun4r.h4ze Look it up, the a320 (in this crash) can carry anywhere from 140-180 passengers depending on the airline. So no, what you said is complete bullshit, as most airliners are narrowbody airliners that are 35-40 metres and seat around that range of people, so you saying that flying wouldn't be affordable for airliners if each plane couldn't hold hundreds is also bullshit. Literally just one google search would have helped that but you went "nah I need to try make it look like my argument is common sense" instead
@TFGeditz how dare I point out a fact I'm such an asshole for that LOL, also 150 people doesn't mean hundreds. Hundreds means like atleast 200 but usually it refers to 300 or more
This wasn't suicide, was a murder. Ive struggled with suicidal thoughts and attempts, one thing is when its only you, but you have 0 right to take everyone else's life with you because YOU feel miserable. Now n families feel broken because of this. This was murder, not suicide
@@user-dm8se5vk1s How come you never heard about it? It is the exact same incident that happened two years earlier with a flight from Mozambique. Look for LAM Mozambique Airlines Flight 470.
@@mihatchettPlease enhance your reading comprehension lol, he meant that since it's an airline flight, when has there not been kids in it. It's pointing out to the fact that there is atleast one kid who's annoyingly loud inside of the plane.
@@Shrekyloveyour just disgusting He doesn't even have that disorder it's the most disgusting thing to protect such person No excuse can make u have the right to commit suicide and die along side many innocent people
The rage on the pilot's face turning into despair. Jesus fucken christ. I've come back to this short almost daily after discovering it a few weeks ago.
That pilot had a family he wants to go back to. That flight attendant is someone's daughter, friend, sister. I just feel bad for everyone except the loser suic1d4l person, like unalive yourself at your home
@@elenagaroti exactly what I thought. Tho he probably also has a mix of narcissism cause even a depressed person will never drag anyone with them. In fact some depressed people, or most cause I hear a lot of these stories, even have second thoughts of ending themselves CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HURT THE PEOPLE THEY LOVE and this pilot did not just hurt his remaining family but also random strangers who had a life
@Khonjel_singh Please don't say ❤Jesus Christ❤ in vain/ with or as cuss word, please be respectful and edit the comment. It's my sincere request, please, please. Thank you.
The poor baby not knowing it was going to be his last time on earth melts my heart the baby was so innocent and the mom holding her baby and holding hands with the lady next to them broke my heart and made me cry😭😭 R.I.P to all the victims😇🙏🏻
Context: On March 24 2015, Germanwings flight 9525 was a flight from Spain to Germany. The pilot got up to use the restroom while co-pilot Andreas Lubitz stayed in the cockpit. Lubitz locked the cockpit door and then let go of the plane's control. The pilot was then left outside with the flight attendant and pessengers while co-pilot Lubitz flew into a mountain. All 144 and six crew members were killed. This can be the true power of suicide.
Don’t call this suicide, that was murder. He murdered every single person on board. Them calling it a suicide was an attempt to save face, the best they could. Calling it a suicide sounds a whole lot better than having to address the fact that one of their very own pilots murdered all 144 people on a flight.
The lady with the baby held someone’s hand and smiled… she the definition of kindness Edit 1: wow! I’ve never gotten this much likes thanks!❤ Edit 2: thank you!!!! 😊
I have depression and struggle with suicidal thoughts all the time. Never once have I thought of ending other ppls lives with my own. That is plain disgusting. Nothing justifies it, even if it’s a sickness. If you want to take your own life, don’t push that onto others. You may be suicidal, doesn’t mean others are. It just shows that this copilot had no morality
I remember working in the school the school class onboard was from. The school is based in Haltern am See in Germany. There is a large plaque with all the students names. Every morning the principal would light a candle on their memorial and let it burn until school was out. Very heartbreaking moment. The town still mourns their passing
@@velvetacik I don't know. I am not from that area, I only worked there via an army internship to get work experience for apprenticeship school. I was there back in 2019, so it has been some times since
@@YourSweet_Fella_IsNiallyh but some religions like in islam (my religion) Says that if you do Suicide You will go to hell. Because why would u end your life That Allah Gave you? He would've had something ahead of him and he ended everything. Plus I think he also murdered over hundreds of people because he killed himself WITH all those innocent souls. So even if He wasn't killing himself only. He would've gone to hell.
@@cherrybaby5789 which isn't fair to them and their families. Those people had lives to live, maybe families to get back to. Because your life is shitty and u wanna end it ur gonna bring ppl in it to and make their families lives shitty??
@smallahhtoes Why did you use word shitty? I don't think if someone's depressed or mentally ill have a „shitty life". It's not just that. But of course I understand everything you said and you'r right. He should not have done that To bring other people down , just beacues he wanted to kill himself. He may have been wanted someone to die whit him though. Which is still not okay at all if the other person - persons don't want to give up their lives. And again you are absolutely rigth maybe the shitty thing to but like.. It's kind of weirdly rude to say it like that. Not to just the pilot If I'm wrong then I'm sorry .
As someone who has attempted suicide before in life, it never made sense why others try to take innocents along with them. Especially children. Special place in hell for people who turn their problems into the deaths of innocents.
@@DeedatFXIt's not about religion, it's about common sense and empathy. They're just saying that people who suicide and bring innocents with them to death is very bad and pathetic.
@@Shiturd45 Absolutely, safety is paramount in all professions. While it may be challenging to implement daily psychological examinations for everyone, regular evaluations, perhaps on a yearly or monthly basis, could be a feasible solution. It's about striking a balance between ensuring public safety and respecting individual privacy. Governments play a crucial role in upholding these standards, as the public entrusts them with their well-being. It's not about singling out any profession but rather about creating a system that fosters trust and safety for everyone. What are your thoughts on finding a balance between individual privacy and collective safety in various professions?
There are many kinds of depression. Often people who are outing themselves as depressed seem alright from the outside. You learn to play a role. And most depressed people, even if they're thinking about suicide, would never kill other people. It's not like these US shootings at American schools (murders, suicide).
Rest in peace to the ones who died, i mean ok the co-pilot is mentally ill or depressed but that dosent mean he has to end his life along with 149 other lifes, it isnt fair to the ones who just wanted to go to their destination. 149 of them didn't have a choice.
What’s even crazier is those doors have a small panel to type in emergency codes to open the cockpit, however the pilots can turn off this feature at any time.
the incident took place after the 9/11 attacks. the "safety" feature was to prevent terrorists from hijacking the plane and causing another big incident
@@dmlsjsjsidishdeyup. The extra safety feature with the codes being shutdown were in case terrorists had inside information and gained the codes. Honestly the giant door and emergency shutdown of the codes is a great system but sadly nobody expected a pilot to turn against their duty. It goes by the saying: safety only advances after a tragedy
@@skellybonz5467would've been better to have a code that changes every flight and is delivered to the pilots prior to launch through an encrypted communication system, instead of just allowing shut down of the code completely.
