@@ElliottMoreno-nd2hh The last one is actually incorrect and already being proven wrong, that's actually lifeguard speaking to the Detroit Tower which read as: "Metro tower, lifeguard copter one zero two Uniform Mike is, ah..." The transcript of the cvr doesn't mention anything about those last words, so clearly either it's misunderstanding or the channel just made it up. Like the other one Martinair Flight 495 actually have all the pilots survived so technically those aren't their last words..
Reminds me of the man who called first responders from up high in the North or South tower on nine eleven and stayed on the line until it literally fell. His cut off scream and the few milliseconds of building starting to give way is insane to me
If you read up on the accident, there were like a dozen things which if they'd been done slightly differently, there wouldn't have been an accident. Off the top of my head: - Only one controller was working, and was overburdened - Tower's collision warning system was turned off for maintenance, without informing the controller - Controller was distracted for a long time by a problem with another flight. - Both BAL 2937 and DHL 611 requested flight level 360. Controller granted it, probably due to the above distraction. - Controller mistakenly told BAL that DHL was on their right, when it was on their left - Controller realized the danger shortly before the collision and told BAL to descend to try to resolve it. A few seconds later, TCAS advised DHL to dive and BAL to climb. You're supposed to obey TCAS if the controller's instructions conflict. But TCAS was new and not everyone fully understood it. So BAL obeyed the controller, resulting in both planes diving. - DHL initially didn't take the TCAS warning that seriously, and performed a moderate dive instead of the recommended steep dive. They didn't increase their dive rate until 2 seconds before the collision, by which time it was too late. Just a really sad accident in all. So many little things could have prevented it.
@@cnplaza6737 Another strange and sad and heartbreaking event.. the school children from Russia were brought to the wrong airport the day before by the trip’s charter company.... they waited and finally got this flight for the next day.. they were never meant to be on that flight. 😪
@@cnplaza6737 The phones were also down, which made it impossible for another ATC in another tower, who did have working equipment and thus saw the danger, to warn Nielsen. So many little problems which aligned perfectly to lead to this disaster...
Delta 191 is rather infamous in aviation history. Other than the hint of lightning in the recording, you don't get a clear idea as to what happened, but they flew into a microburst that essentially pushed the plane into the ground. It was thanks to this flight that windshear alerts became a thing.
The thing with that is, the captain *did* know what flying into that was going to do to the aircraft. 2:38: “Watch your speed. You’re going to lose it all of a sudden….’there’ it is.”
@@SpanielRacing2 definitely had some familiarity but didn't know nearly enough to understand just how dangerous it could really be, especially at that altitude. Back then was a very different time and we've learned far more since.
I live near DFW. Delta 191 is why, if at all possible, I book my seat in the back of the plane. (Plus, you can sometimes get served first, and you're close to the toilets)
@@Mocha142yt the plane didn't crash in the wild and even then often times it's quite easy to find si[þs of plane crashes unless they crash in the wild
@@Mocha142yt the plane didn't crash in the wild and even then often times it's quite easy to find si[þs of plane crashes unless they crash in the wild
When I was a pilot for Delta, they used to replicate that microburst for us in the sim from the L1011 crash in Dallas. The technology has improved exponentially since the crash, but that scenario is still a handful even with the new equipment.
I took a class back in the 90s about management teams & Delta 191 (Dallas) & United 232 (Souix City) were discussed on teamwork & responsibility. *I REMEMBER THE "REQUIRED" WEATHER OBSERVER AT DFW TO HAVE AN "OPEN" ATC OPERATIONS WAS AT DINNER* during the time Delta 191's approach & that ATC missed calling the wind shear warnings.
@@rickpat-x9u This is what I know from the pilot side. The technology is way better than it was when DAL 191 crashed. However, that windshear was a monster and came out of the blue. No telling if they would have survived had the current technology been onboard. Here’s what I will tell you. I ALWAYS trusted the technology we had after I experienced the scenario in the sim, and it also worked on the ground. I witnessed a windshear warning prior to takeoff in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina once the storm had passed but the feeder bands were still around. Other airplanes were going around and the windshear warning was painting it. Many of us are alive today because of the newer technology, but awareness has also been key.
Wasn’t this crash investigation also instrumental in the implementation of Doppler systems at all major airports? For wind shear and severe weather detection?
@@DanSimerl I do not recall, but likely so. I was a USAF pilot when this happened and was not flying into commercial fields much. There were different standards for the military and commercial fields back then but they are probably the same now.
Yes, it was. At the busier airports, TDWR replaced the old LLWAS. TDWR (doppler radar) is superior to the old LLWAS. LLWAS was just wind anometers set around the airport perimeter; not nearly as good as a doppler scanning the airport arrival and departure corridors. I was a controller for a long time and used both systems. TDWR was one piece of equipment that the FAA got its money's worth. It was accurate and gave warning in plenty of time. When I issued a TDWR microburst alert, pilots knew it was the real deal and treated it accordingly. The old LLWAS was a crap shoot, at best.
"Im so sorry. Were going to crash" Last words were spent on the lives of his passengers...not family, not himself. Just his passengers and his remorse. Heavy shit.
I don't think that's what was said.... I could be wrong but researching it it looks like that was the tower and another aircraft communicating, hence the muffled nature.
That one was a bad one... the plane had actually landed but for whatever reason they didn't apply enough brakes, and they were running out of runway quick so the Captain attempted a Go Around but wasn't able to build up enough speed before the runway ran out and one of the wings clipped a wire tower, which caused plane to flip and crash. That's why you can hear an audible gasp from everyone. The sad thing is if they had just continued braking and overan the runway a little bit, they probably would have got bumped around a little and the plane a little beat up, but they would have all survived.
@@stephenmystery8313not at all, retrying a landing is actually rather common. In fact, you can even hear pilots in this video refer to “going around” (TOGA as it’s called).
As for the Uberlingen - I personally saw the DHL aircraft that day and had a brief radio conversation with the pilots. They were #1 for departure out of Bahrain, in the hammerhead, when I landed there. They complimented my landing right on tower frequency. I remember them saying “Awww Reach, that was beautiful” right as I touched my C-5 down. We exchanged brief pleasantries. They said they were going to Italy and then Belgium. We then wished each other well. The tower controller casually let us finish our brief chit chat before clearing them for takeoff. To this day, having over 15,000 flight hours of combined military and civilian aviation, I have never had a conversation with another aircraft on an operational ATC frequency the way that I did that day! We left Bahrain, flew to Germany, and were all shocked to hear the news of what had happened after landing there.
@@joshthomson3948 I sure was! I had two “small world” things happen to me in 2002 that just about left me keeled over in shock. This was one of them. But the other one was non-aviation related and was even more stunning than this - so much so that as I look back at it, I can still hardly believe it myself (it had to do with the DC sniper killings). No idea why 2002 was my year of small-world stuff.
Scariest thing about a plane crash is knowing that death will probably not come unexpectedly and you'll have to sit there as the plane falls for seconds or even minutes and think about how you are certainly about to die.
That's the thing. When people say flying is very safe they're 100% correct but if you're unlucky enough to be in a plane crash from altitude it has to be the absolute worst way to die
I think of the passengers on the Titanic. They had 2 hours and 40 minutes from impact to sinking. That had to be one of the most devastating ways to die.
I listened to a CVR years ago that still haunts me. The first officer had blundered on the landing. They attempted to gain altitude to fly around and attempt to land again but the damage was done. The last thing the captain said was “you’ve killed us all.” The copilot said: “I know.”
That was the Air Canada DC8 crash I believe. F/O deployed spoilers before plane was on the ground resulting in an extreme hard landing causing a fuel leak and fire. Eventually the plane exploded in the air.
@@samuelm3766 couldn't be. F/O just apologized to CA "sorry Pete" before declaring "we've lost a wing" and the impact happened. Only transcripts are available, It was a 1970's crash too so CRV's were very new, and I don't think the audio was ever leaked to the public 😅
I might have heard this one too on RU-vid. I can't remember the flight number or airlines, but I am 99% certain it was in the 1990's, it happened in Asia, the pilot was American but the co-pilot wasn't, I remember the pilot saying "you're gonna kill us all" or something around those lines. Also I remember that the pilots survived. I don't know if this was a passenger plane and if anyone died. Does this match what you are describing or is this some other very similar CVR?
Alright I actually found the CVR I was mentioning and It was quite different than I remembered, so it may not be the one you mentioned. The one I mentioned was Korean Air 2033 which had a runway over-run in 1994, the pilot was actually Canadian, and co-pilot was Korean, there were 160 people on-board, all survived.
The fact that everyone on DHL plane were still alive trying to recover, and half of the Tupolev including the pilots were alive as well, suffocating and maybe in pain because of eardrum damage, but very aware they were done. So creepy.
man these are brutal. for a while it seemed like the full recordings were never going to be available to the public and I wish it stayed that way! You aren't just hearing fear and a quick death in a lot of these...some of them are the cockpit breaking apart and crushing the pilots while still alive. Rest in peace aviators
The amount of suffering the average person goes through in their lifetime will never get even CLOSE to what the Bashkirian pilots endured in 73 seconds.
@@clarenceghammjr1326 Pretty sure most of the errors with Boeing's are human error, like not being inspected properly or something, I could be wrong though all I did was look it up on Google, I'm no expert
No joke, I was at Midway in the mid 2000s and they used to have these CNN Airport Network monitors at all the gates. I guess someone at Southwest wanted to tune in a soap opera, so anyway, it was feeding live from a local transmitter. Anyway, coverage was interrupted to announce breaking news of a plane crash. That was on every monitor through the entire airport. I swear, you can't make up stuff like this. I was there and never before did I wish so much that I hadn't left my camera behind.
i had no idea the CVR for the überlingen disaster was even publicly released. that's actually probably the most disturbing CVR i think i've heard. you have to realise that after impact, the russian plane's nose (and cockpit) was severed from the rest of the aircraft as the wreckage plummeted to the ground. the whooshing sound is the open air behind the pilots. the passengers - CHILDREN - were torn from their seats and launched into the sky, freefalling. the grunts and groans coming from the CVR are the pilots either struggling to breathe the thin air of high altitudes, or struggling to deal with the insane G forces they were experiencing, or both at once.
I have seen the ACI episode Regarding the mid air collision over Uberlingen. This is the very first time that I’ve heard the cockpit voice recorder. I can’t help but send my heart out to the Russians. They were alive all the way until they hit the ground. All the children who died. And of course, I cannot forget the heroics of the DHL crew. They fought to keep their airplane airborne for as long as they could. The number of lives they saved on the ground because they fought back.
I recently watched that episode of ACI, and I've seen it quite a few times and yet, I learned of a detail that I had somehow missed: The children were not even supposed to be on that particular flight. Because 2 days before, the tour group accidentally took them to the wrong airport and missed their original flight. If the tour group had not made that mistake, they would have made their original flight, and they would likely still be alive today.
And all that because of the dumb aviation bueraucrats who could't decide whose orders take priority - tcas or controller's. Despite a near miss in Japan months before that
The Uberlingen is sad because the controller was on two far apart screens because his partner was on break. The phones were down and radar was slow. An airbus a310 was having problems so the controller took care of that and then they collided. He then was murdered by a guy who lost his family on the Bashkirian airlines plane
I’m no pilot, but I’ve always agreed with this. In an emergency, I’d rather overrun the runway than risk doing a go-around at low speed in a potentially damaged aircraft. Both are dangerous, but one is significantly more risky.
@@jon590the co pilot was literally telling him "get it up Charlie" while the captain was losing his mind. I'm not going to sit here and judge the captain though because nobody knows how they'd react in that situation
We hail the ones that keep their cool in such a moment, but damn, I sympathize with the first guy shrieking his lungs out. I can totally see myself going through the strict training to become a pilot and still reacting like that facing the end. Rest in piece man.
I remember reading about Delta 191. Downed by a microburst, a weather phenomenon that was unknown at the time. Might as well have been a ghost to them.
@@LSR1980Can you please be a bit more sensitive? Put yourself in their shoes. Imagine that you are piloting a plane that you know is going to end your, and hundreds of passengers life in a matter of seconds, and there is absolutely NOTHING you can do. It is the worst nightmare of any pilot. So get your insensitive ass out of this comment section if you can’t have the maturity of a 13-year-old.
I trained as an ATC but all of my jobs were as a ground controller. I did have to learn the correct procedures for when there is an emergency, a Mayday or a Pan Pan Pan or anything of that nature. Glad I never had to deal with something as horrendous as these calls. I had a couple of small fires and once a crew member just died in his seat. The captain was very professional about it but by the time we got them off the runway and back to the gate he was hysterical.
My Dad, best friend & I were working in Dallas. We took my friend to DFW to put him on a plane because his grandfather died. My Dad & I had just left the airport when Delta 191 crashed. It was so violent it picked our truck up & slammed it down hard enough to break the transmission in half. Horrible weather & HORRIBLE sight.
This reminds me why I'm so scared of flying. While the risk is extremely low, once something happens, you have no control over you and your family's fate. When driving a car or being in a boat, there always feels like something can be done to affect your chance of survival, even if you're seemingly skidding out of control or sinking in the middle of the ocean, but once you're in that plane and the speed and/or altitude reaches that certain point, that's it.
I remember the first one well. My Mom worked for the Pilot Charles Gilbert and his wife Helen. My parents were worried it was him when the story broke. I remember my Mom crying on the phone when Helen called her.
I have so much respect for that last pilot. I always wondered if pilots warned passengers. I’d want to know. I expect the captain to say something during turbulence so i cant even fathom falling outta the sky & the pilot is silent.
@@BenHuynh-us4stthe text says indi gulf 88 but I have no idea what that is. The actual flight is East Coast Jets 81. It was a private jet that crashed during a failed go-around as they overshot the runway. They made the decision to do the go-around too late and there was not enough time to get in the air.
I guess as a passenger you are hopefully unaware of your impending doom, in some cases anyway. All the better you’re not hearing the gpws and other warnings telling you death isn’t far way.
That last crash happened when I was 10 years old in 1987. The soul survivor was 4 years old. Cecelia Cichan. Not sure if that is still her name as she has married and living life away from media attention the last I knew. They found her in her mother's arms.
She is married with a child now. What I find wonderful is that the person who took her to the hospital attended her wedding. In my opinion that shows how much her survival meant to him. ❤
I would add the 1987 Las Kabacki crash in Poland, it was caused by faulty design of Soviet plane, the pilot's last words were just "Cześć, giniemy" (Bye, we're dying).
The second to last one is East Coast Jet Flight 81. Still though this one is so horrifying to me even with how preventable it was. “Flaps…FUCK’ captain knew he screwed up bad. I can’t imagine being on a jet that small and hearing your captain saying “it’s not motherfucking flying!” RIP
A crash that wasn't even a crash. It was a bad landing but they would have stopped well within safety margins, or likely still been fine even if they overran the runway. By attempting a go-around so late, they killed everyone.
@@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Panicked into the wrong decision, I wonder what the training is as when TOGA just is not the correct option. crashing at the end of a runway at 30-40knots compared to clattering trees/cables/structures and at much higher speed in the air seems to be far more likely to bring about a far worse outcome!
Rest in peace to Northwest flight 255, ive learned a lot about it the wreck is hidden behind the bushes of the hill it smashed into, the bushes also block it when you try to get on I 94, its a terrible wreck, it shocked michigan, its the only type of commercial airliner that crashed in michigan, the place where it now rests is in taylor or allen park off I 94, you can still see the airport that it took off from on I 94, it still scars michigan about the crash, most people near the crash sight probably remember this incident, may those rest in peace, may that 1 survivor be ok from this crash.
The sole survivor was a 4 year old girl at the time of the crash named Cecelia Cichan. She did an interview last year on the 35th anniversary of the crash and also a documentary about 9 years prior called "Sole Survivor". Despite losing her mother, father, and brother in the crash, she seems surprisingly well adjusted. She was raised by her maternal aunt and uncle who shielded her from the media throughout her childhood until she was an adult. She says she stayed in touch with many of the families of the victims, including maintaining a close friendship with the firefighter that found and rescued her. He's a captain now in the same department and even attended her wedding.
One missed was Varig 254 in Brazil, where the pilots misread the degrees set for their trip, from 27.0º to 270º because the dot was missing from the paper, and they flew until they ran out of fuel. "Dear passengers, we ran into a problem with our compass systems, currently running out of fuel. We want to clarify this is something very uncommon in any plane and this doesnt normally happen. Thank you and have a good end." That is both sad and creepy. (Translation may be wrong)
All 3 pilots actually survived the Martinair 495 flight (3:15), 56 of the 340 occupants sadly died however link to the wiki if anyone wants it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinair_Flight_495
How do they even understand each other with so much noise over the radios? I understand basically nothing they say over the comms in this kind of video.
Communication between ATC and pilots basically rely on standard phraseology and expected instructions. It's easier to make something out of what's being said when you know what to expect, although it can take some practice. Experience also helps.
#1 Was so close to my house I heard it. I lived a few minutes away and it was a gorgeous August early evening in Metro Detroit. We heard a plane had crashed on TV and I was 15 and didn’t really understand the gravity of it. Traffic was backed up for hours and hours. I remember seeing all the blue FBI jackets worn by the agents. I actually believe we were told no final transmission was given and I kinda accepted that all these years. Crazy for the pilot to actually apologize to everyone for their impending deaths. I met a woman years later whose fiancée was on the plane and she watched it crash from the airport. They were a soon to be young couple and he was heading to Phoenix for a job interview. Also, I remember a friend asking if bodies could be seen. I remember thinking that’s impossible as I assumed a human body would simply disintegrate in a plane crash. I found out later what all those yellow tarps on the ground were. Ugh.
The third radio message had my blood go cold my heart skipped a beat sent chill's down my spine i feel bad for them RIP to the pilots and passengers i would name all of the pilots name if i could
Fun fact: Delta 191 is *NOT* a dc 10 it’s a lockheed L1011 tristar Edit: according to Wikipedia flight 191 is a dc 10-10 but in the cvr the gwps pull up is a Lockheed L1011 tristar so which plane is it? Edit 2: there is 2 191 incidents: Delta flight 191 and American flight 191 so my bad ignore the edit 1