Getting blackmailed, filing a restraining order & losing $1.3M w/ Clayton from The Bachelor | Ep. 53 

Matt is hosting solo in this episode due to Abby’s grandpa passing. Thank you all for your condolences. ❤️

Matt’s feet dangling off the edge of the couch but Clayton’s feet hitting the floor is sending me for some reason 😂😂

The fact she made false reports to the court feels like it should be grounds for prosecution.

I lost my baby at 21 weeks and I have a birth and death certificate, a whole hospital stay and an urn with his ashes.....the baby definitely doesn't just disappear. It's also sickening to hear someone fake a loss like that when it is absolutely traumatizing to go through.

Wow. This man is the definition of masculinity in my eyes. He is in touch with his emotions, his self awareness is incredible, and he genuinely cares about the wellbeing of others. Even after being put through this nightmare, he isn't out there trashing this woman or women as a whole. He is sharing his story in a very respectful way even though it has caused him so much pain. What a beautiful human!

I really love that we’re talking more about male mental health

Clayton's level of self-awareness and personal accountability is pretty incredible

It infuriates me that Clayton, who is a victim of this woman, may not be able to get the courts to go after her as to not make other women fearful of coming forward. That’s backwards. All victims should have their day in court.

Very interesting video but one of the things I would like to highlight is how well Matt handled the the high emotions and the space needed to "take a breath". The silence while Clayton took a moment to regulate his emotions spoke volumes to Matt's ability as an interviewer. You also stayed really impartial to the topic which I think is great journalism and interviewing. Thanks to both Matt for the space to share this and to Clayton for telling his difficult story!

So glad Clayton is getting his story out there. This woman needs to be stopped!

I work at a hospital in Columbia, MO that Clayton used to work at and his co workers all have nothing but great things to say about him! Loved this episode! So glad he is able to get his story out there!

As soon as you said Abby had a family emergency, i knew it was her grandpa. I'm so sorry for your loss. Clayton, what happened to you is unforgivable. This is why some men are terrified of women. Its disgusting and i hope she is held accountable. There is no excuse for intentionally trying to ruin someone because you didnt get what you want. Im very sorry you have had to deal with this. It takes its toll in so many ways. Best of luck!

I am not even 20 minutes into this episode, and every single time he makes a statement of self awareness punches me in the gut. The self accountability… Is so inspiring and crushes my soul in such a good way.

DAVE NEAL is the Podcaster that initially picked this story up in September 2023, and the Podcaster that called Clayton after that televised Court hearing to give Clayton support. Dave Neal has extensive and incredible moment to moment development on his channel regarding this case, which goes into much more detail than was able to be covered here. Clayton, you’ve been understandably laying low, so it’s wonderful to see you not backing down on this. Your effort can help those who had this happen to them before you, as well as set a precedent for it to not continue in the future. All Courts should require proof of pregnancy before allowing a woman to file a paternity case against a man. Matt, I’m so sorry for your family losing your wife’s grandpa, and I hope you all find comfort in each other coming together now.

Good for Clayton continuing to get his story out there. The criminal who made him her 5th victim must be stopped and he’s going to be the one to hold her out in the light and show the world how diabolical she is

It is so great that more podcasts are picking up Clayton’s story because it needs to be heard. Someone please make a movie

I have such a deep appreciation for men who are in touch with their own emotions and feelings. That wisdom is a very beautiful quality.

Welcome to the party! We just found audio of Jane Doe’s mom being in on the calls to Scottsdale police. If there was any doubt that the mom was involved, now we know. Have that on today’s Bachelor Rush Hour podcast. Amazing production quality you guys!

I have never watched an entire season of the Bachelor. My sister watched Clayton's season though, and conveyed to me what happened the last few episodes. I remember thinking that Clayton was a jerk and I didn't like him much. This interview has changed my mind. Clayton seems so genuine and kind! He has every right to drag this woman's name through the mud, and he's decided not to. That is astounding!! He is such an eloquent speaker. I appreciate his humility and honesty as he's admitted to not always handling things the way he should have. He is a good man and I hope he gets justice for yhis terrible situation he's been trapped into.

When Clayton had to stop and breathe, that really hit me deeply. You can tell that he’s really going through it & really trying to be as positive as much as possible. But you can only do so much as one individual can😩🫶🏻

Clayton's haircut is serving him WELL! also, what a strong, resilient man!! go Clayton

Dave Neal is giving daily updates on this case and other victims of hers on his Bachelor Rush Hour Podcast. He has been reporting on it since the beginning 👏

Clayton's comments about people pleasing resonate so deeply with me. I went through something incredibly destructive, similar in that the juiciness of drama was held higher than truth. It devastated me, and left me constantly trying to tell people my side and how this wasn't me. Some time in the second year of this battle, i realized people didn't care. They wanted the drama, the juicy, and they would actively ignore anything that didn't fit that image. I stopped trying giving a crap what people thought.

Team Clayton! His voice has gotten stronger! Great interview!!

How refreshing to hear someone articulate their struggles and what they’ve overcome with such grace. Clayton speaks eloquently, he has such wisdom and kindness for himself. His reflection on teenage years and feeling the need to compensate for not being as big a star as his younger brother, his gentle perspective on this paternity situation… wow. I loved hearing his perspective of trauma, and he’s absolutely right. We wouldn’t choose to put ourselves through traumatic situations, but the ability to learn and grow from them is such a blessing. Matt and Abby- I have really come to enjoy the interviews you guys have completed. You ask great questions, do your research on the topics and individuals, and provide such empathy and interest. Well done!

Thank you for having Clayton on. Btw, your sound is very clear and crisp......IF anyone is wondering, at 01:06:40, Dave Neal is the Podcaster that Clayton references. He's been brilliantly covering this bizarre story since the very beginning.

I'm so happy Clayton came on the unplanned podcast, because I can relate to everything he says. I’m so sorry about Abby’s grandpa he will be forever missed

Clayton, I'm so sorry you are experiencing this awful situation. People need to evaluate and believe evidence regardless of who is making the accusations. You have my support and my respect for sharing this extremely vulnerable experience. Wishing you all the best. Matt and Abby, I'm so sorry for your loss. Holding your family up during this time of mourning.

Holy smokes!!!! I get what they were saying about it preventing real victims from coming forward, but Clayton was/is a victim and he matters too! This happened to my friend. This..plot twist...married woman (he didn't know that) said he got her pregnant. She sent sonograms and she even went to his parents without talking to him. His parents all but disowned him. The truth finally came out that she wasn't pregnant (or that it was her husband's, I don't recall). Women should be held accountable for this crap too! It's Life is already complicated enough, especially if there IS an accidental pregnancy.

I’m so sorry for you loss and I can’t even imagine what you guys are going through right now. I’m so glad you guys have these kind of people on the podcast because we see/read what the internet gives us but to actually listen to the actual person tell us his side and what actually happened brings a new perspective on people! So thanks! ❤

I’m so glad that Dave Neal reached out to you Clayton and was able to jumpstart support for you so you didn’t feel alone on this journey! What she has done to you and the other men is truly criminal and she should be held accountable!!! Hang in there and hope the court date Goes in your favor and light is shone brightly on what she has done to you!! 🙏🏻

Follow up pod in March please!!!! As a mother of 2 girls and 4 boys both sides of these situations and their outcomes are so intriguing to me. I'm a mother who always wants to teach my kids to do right and trust that the truth will be the deciding factor.

I’m so sorry for your loss Matt & Abby. This was such a good episode. I love how Matt asks the hard questions while remaining impartial & respectful. I don’t listen to many podcasts but the unplanned podcast is definitely one I don’t miss. Sorry you have to go through this Clayton and I hope Feb 27th brings you the closure on all of this that you deserve.

I am so sorry for your loss, praying for you and your family. Thank you for being a platform for Clayton to speak out on this horrible subject. My heart goes out to him as I can only imagine the hell he has been through by the hands of this person

What a POWERFUL testimony. Thank you for giving Clayton this important platform. I'm confident it will help so many listeners!

I watched for myself the court hearing and this woman is INSANE. This woman’s family needs to get a court order and get her admitted into a facility for extensive psychiatric treatment. I mean that statement with no joking.

Get your story out there Clayton! This woman MUST be stopped! Praying that the scales of the justice system lean 100% your way 🙏🏼🩶

Gosh I feel so bad for this man, made me cry, how can people be like this 🥺.

So happy you covered this. BOTTOM LINE IS LIARS LIKE THIS SHOULD GET IN TROUBLE. Lying on marriage licenses, then silencing the victim should be taken more seriously. I have had my life destroyed. I so understand

Abby, my condolences are with you and your family. I will pray for peace and healing for you all. Clayton, I am so sorry for the horrendous things you have gone through and are currently going through. Your passion about this is palpable. Nothing but support from me!

Clayton you have matured so much! The only way we mature and grow is through pain. You are brave enough to talk about it…to explain it. And you’ve grown from several situations so you have this perspective and NOW the opportunity to share your experience. You go! Onward! You get to choose where and how to shine…

My condolences 🙏🏾. I think that the woman who claimed this false pregnancy against Clayton should be held accountable and be charged with wasting the time and money of the judicial system. She should also be responsible for your court costs since she lied. Such a horrible individual. Her parents are just as bad for allowing her behavior to happen.

Such a great episode. I wish it was longer. I feel so bad for Clayton. He's so passionate about this injustice it is palpable. Great that you gave him a chance to speak. So sorry about Abby's grandpa. I feel like I was just watching a video of him going to get a coffee when Abbey was working at the coffee shop that one day. 😢

OMG, THE POWER OF PRESENCE! I've been struggling and determined to crawl out of misery and anxiety and just in the last 2-3 weeks realized the power of presence is huge and has and is helping my mindset, my mood! And the HUGE point of CHOOSING to be happy!!! It takes a lot of constant effort and sorry for all the caps. but this is so amazing!!

Thank you for giving him a voice! He is hurting and this lady needs to stop. Hard to watch the pain, but thank you!

Great podcast! I just wish Clayton would publicly acknowledge Dave Neal who was the only one covering this story for months (and who is now being sued by Clayton's accuser!) And acknowledge the Dave Neal community who organized and funded the GoFundMe for his legal expenses. While none of them participated for the acknowledgement, Clayton owes them a huge THANK YOU!

THANK YOU for getting Clayton’s story out there on a bigger platform!

Thank you for posting this story. It breaks my heart for Clayton. With all the lives lost to mental health, Clayton speaking to this helps alot. I am a Dave Neal supporter and so proud he stuck by him all this time. He also getting sued. And it does help that he gets recognized also. His own family is getting affected by this story. He is now a Victim also for doing the right thing

Great interview! I can't believe she has been able to do this so many times. I hope Clayton gets some justice!

Awesome interview. Very raw, emotional, and real. Justice for CLAYTON! We’ve got cha back!

I really enjoyed listening to this episode! I haven’t seen this season of the Bachelor, but this guy seems very kind, genuine, and very introspective & self reflective. Love to see it!!!

Prayers for Abby abd her family and thank you for sharing Clayton's story. The truth needs to come out to as much light as her article in the Sun did.

I'm glad Dave Neal mentioned to head over and watch this. Thank you! Great watch

Matt, you did such a great job with this interview! I love watching you and Abby together with another person or couple but this was such a different feel and it was a great addition to what you guys have already done. Well done! Sending prayers to Abby ❤

Sending Prayers to Abby and family. God bless you. And very sorry for your loss 🙏🏻

I'm so sorry for your loss, my thoughts and prayers are with you all. I remember when you had him on the podcast, he sure had a great life!

Clayton, so sorry you had to go through this. Abby, condolences for your grandfather.

So sorry for your loss Abby…Keeping you & your family in my thoughts & prayers❤

I love what he said,”through discomfort, growth happens” that was such an amazing way to think about it.

love this couch and conversation!

😢 aww sad, so sorry for your loss Abby. i literally watched your grandparents podcast hours ago.

Wow! What an episode!!! It’s unfortunate how people are. I’m glad he’s pulling through though. Please give my condolences to Abby and her Family! 🙏🏼

So sorry for the loss of Abby’s grandfather. May God comfort your family at this difficult time 🙏 Thank you for covering this topic. Dave Neal played a segment of this on his podcast & suggested coming here to listen to the entire podcast. Great interview. Praying for resolution for Clayton.

My sincere condolences for the loss of your grandfather, Abby!! Hugs and 🙏

This podcast is becoming NEXT LEVEL! Your guests are so interesting and I especially love this vulnerable conversation between two men. You guys are amazing! Keep up the great work!❤❤

A really sad episode but grateful to Clayton for sharing all. RIP Grandpa! 🙏

I’m so sorry for your loss. You are all in our thoughts and prayers ❤

@theunplannedpodcast I know exactly who your talking about , we just finished up our court case with this crazy lady and she pretty much robbed us.

Sent by some podcaster named Dave Neal . Thanks for covering what so many in Bachelor Nation refuse to do.

Bad-*ss move Matt to get Clayton on. Been following his story through Dave Neal videos. It's unfortunate what has happened to Clayton. But as he says it has been huge life lessons and growth. I've prayed for him & all Jane Does victims for the truth to be exposed. I am happy Clayton is able to share his story on your platform. Hang in there Clayton. You've done a remarkable job through this nightmare. Wow,, my hat goes off to Clayton for not giving up. And I'm grateful you have a strong support system of ppl in your life. They are the true heroes. And you Clayton one day will be able to help if not already many others. God Bless you Clayton as you move fwd.

this was intense man...I really enjoyed this episode..truly sorry for what he is going through...great job on the interview Matt you are really good at this ❤

About halfway through. Great podcast so far. Never heard of Clayton before but he seems like a really, really cool person. Enjoyable to listen to someone my age (early 30s) so mature and enlightened.

I am so sorry Abby for your loss. I can't imagine the pain you are going through. Can we also take a minute and give Matt props for how well he handled the podcast by himself. Great job Matt!

This calm, supportive conversation is exactly what the world needs. Regarding sanctions, she didn't make a simple mistake, or even tell a garden-variety lie. She went out of her way to FABRICATE ELABORATE EVIDENCE. Fabrication of evidence to introduce to the court as proof of something is a CRIME, not mere perjury. The court will not be able to look the other way. You'll notice that the moment she lawyered up, the universe of her allegations got much smaller, but the truth was still nowhere to be found. Lawyers cannot introduce false evidence nor suborn perjury without fear of serious professional reprisal, including disbarment. You may wish to talk to a good libel/slander attorney - Roberta Kaplan's office takes high profile cases and wins them. You need and deserve quality representation like her. It's heartbreaking to hear how deeply you have suffered by this nutloaf's intentional acts. You are another bead on the string of men she's done this to, she must be deterred! While it seems clear she is has an undiagnosed mental illness, she also has an established pattern of harmful behavior that has to end. Lastly, she thinks nothing of wasting scarce court resources, which the judge will not be able to discount. You have a strong slander/libel case against her for besmirching your good name. I don't agree that women who are genuinely pregnant - with real, DNA-having fetuses - will have any difficulty properly accessing court resources, simply because one woman who fabricated evidence of a non-existent, fake pregnancy, was punished for perpetrating a fraud upon the court. On the other hand, if the court fails to punish nutloaf magoo, it essentially throws open its doors and sets out a red carpet to warmly welcome and embrace those who would perpetrate more frauds of all kinds upon it. It sets a bad precedent and it's bad public policy to let nutloaf get away with this. The fact that she's done it before, and has had so many opportunities to tell the truth along the way, will hang her. Your takeaway message, about how your support network is so important, cannot be overstated. Difficult things come up in our lives, and we need help to get through the rough times. Having an infrastructure you can lean on when the going gets tough is essential. It's what we do to strengthen our social backbones during the easy times, that makes them strong for us during the hard times. Oh, and be careful out there - the Hot/Crazy Matrix is real! We can do a lot to avoid trouble by vetting for mental health first! This applies to women and men equally.

Great episode. Crazy story , hope he is able to get this resolved and clear his name.

I'm glad Clayton you came on and told your story about the woman I feel for you !

First time watching The Unplanned Podcast. Thanks for covering this 😊 Watching to support Clayton!!! You have so many people in your corner!

I thank God that He is providing the clarity, strength, and courage for Clayton to pursue justice and peace of mind for himself and others who are victims of mental abuse. I’m also praying that He brings clarity to Clayton’s abuser and her parents that coming clean and admitting their wrongs is a very freeing way to continue in life. Repentance and forgiveness are the most powerful words we can offer! God bless you both and my condolences to Abby on the loss of her grandmother. 🙏🥰

I’m sorry that this is happening to you and hopefully she gets the help she needs. As well as the help you need to get through this situation 🙏

This was a great episode! I'm hoping this man gets justice & that that woman doesn't do this to anyone else🙏🤞. Sending, love, prayers & condolences to Abby & her family...thinking of all of you in this difficult time🥺💔🙏❤️. Safe travels to you both

Hugs and prayers to you all on the loss of Abby's grandfather. 🙏🙏🫂🫂

Clayton is doing this lady a service. It’s a lot of anxiety putting up a charade like that. It might have been exciting drama in beginning, but it goes straight to anxiety in a heartbeat. I do hope she confesses for his sake and her own sake.

Prayers for Abby and family great podcast once again❤

Sending you both so much love! Praying for you and your family Abby during this time of grief. 🧡🧡

I'm so Proud of him that he nit let up on this. Keep it go Clayton l pray her lies get fully exposed

My grandfather is going through a health crisis at this time. My heart is with your family Abby❤Take all the time you need guys.

Abby my heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry for the loss of your grandpa. I absolutely know the heartbreak your feeling as I felt that with my grandma. And a decade later my heart still tears up when I think of her. Then losing my 21 year old son, my husband, my father-in-law and my dad all in a 6 year span makes you so broken. But slowly time will help heal. I promise. Biggest of hugs sweetheart! I wish I could take your pain away! Absorb as much Love and Happiness from Matt and the kids as you can to help heal your heart! ♥️♥️♥️ Angela

I’m so sorry Ms. Abby, sending prayers and love

I am a feminist and I believe women but this isn’t like an assault case where evidence could be nebulous. It (as far as I’m aware) shouldn’t be traumatizing to take a dna test for a baby…so I don’t understand why the courts won’t move forward with prosecution ‘for fear of real victims coming forward’ that would make sense to me in a false assault case but not a false consensual baby case.

Great podcast. So sorry to hear about abbys grandpa. I remember him being in some of the videos a while back trying fast food restaurants. My prayers are with you guys and abbys family during this time ❤❤

Prayers for you all right now. This was a great episode 🙏❤️

Love catching these during insomnia hours. 220am watch

I am keeping Abby and her family in my prayers. So very sorry for your loss 🙏

Oh my gosh Matt, thank you for having this guy on. My nephew is going through this he has been for 6 years now we think it’s almost over. A child is involved. She’s now six years old and that woman has used that child plus she has two others after that one. It’s just unbelievable the things this man is saying is the same thing my nephew is gone through With children involved it’s so sad.

Very amazing episode, Clayton, im so sorry for all you have went through I wish you the best of luck on your court date! And Matt, you were an amazing interviewer! Condolences to Abby, we missed her as well! ❤

Sorry to hear of your loss. Thinking of you and your family!

I feel so bad that he had to go through all that, and that other people have also gone through things like this, my prayers and condolences to him, and everyone else who has gone through that, and to Abby and Matt, and her family, I am so sorry for your loss.

Best wishes to Clayton in dealing with this awful woman, what a great man who does not deserve this terrible situation ❤

The pain is so real. Just praying for his peace ❣️

Great episode! Thoughts and prayers for Abby and her family 🩵