I feel like what saves the man from being consumed by the mother complex is the role of the father. This is why it's extremely vital for a child to have a father figure who actively participates in the development of the child. The father's involvement allows the mother's nurturing and protective instincts to be complimentary rather than all consuming. The father instinctively seeks out to toughen up the child, take him out of their comfort zone and educate them about the harsh realities of life. For example if a child is being bullied and goes to the mother, she would most likely go to the school and speak to a teacher so the child never learns to stick up for himself because the mother will always be there to protect him. Whereas an old school father will probably tell their child to walk up to their bully and sock him in the face and if the child takes this advice he learns a very valuable lesson in life and that's to face his fears and stick up for himself. Without the father a child may never learn how to face the harsh realities of life and when they become older and find themselves in the real world they will often be ill-equipped in dealing with the challenges life throws their way and they will usually deal with those challenges how they have been conditioned to and thats to seek out the comforting bosoms of the mother's embrace. That comfort can often be represented by different forms of escapism.
Hi kgeedi, many thanks for your comment and you raise an important issue. In an ideal situation where it is only the Mother Complex that requires dealing with and the Father is a 'good enough' (for the circumstances) father, then that may well be sufficient to counter-balance the negative effects of the mother. Where the father isn't effective, or, where he is abusive, or otherwise, a negative effect, then, that obviously makes the overall effect worse. Speaking from the context of a clinician, the approach should always be to assess the wider picture, but, if the main issue is (for example) the internalized Mother-Complex, then that must be the focus of therapy. We will be doing a series on the Father Complex too, as this also has its issues. Thanks again for your contribution, it's very much ppreciated, Kindest Regards, Steve.
This awareness of the biological influences on psychology is golden. It kind of fills the void I noticed in my personal therapy experience. I reached a dead end and could go no longer. Thank you for sharing this awesome knowledge!
I almost didn’t watch any of these videos because I’ve read Jung, and while I don’t claim any pure understanding, it is obvious that most videos on his concepts grossly oversimplify and even bastardize them. Looking to join the patreon soon to ask questions. Thank y’all so much for your work!
Blessings The Wolf Neurotic, Wolves are instictive animals and live authentically, a great lesson to learn for us all there... My Respect and Kindest Regardss, Steve.
Hi guys, I took a big step today in talking to my mom and dealing with a large part of my mother complex. I recommend that if anyone else has to have this type of conversation, prepare what you want to say. Don’t come off as aggressive or hostile as this might make things worse. If you’re Mom really cares for you but isn’t seeing things in her behavior that are pathological, then patiently and kindly reveal those things to her. You don’t need to demonize her. You can overcome your Mother Complex and still have a good relationship with your mother! Thank you Jung to Live By team for your great help in this huge area of my life! I never would have acknowledged that I had this issue if it weren’t for you guys, and I wouldn’t have had the courage to do what I just did today if it weren’t for you guys.
Hi again @dwifred472, thank you so much for sharing your very moving story. We're sure so very many people will benefit from your insight and fortitude. Respect, and Kindest regards, Steve & Pauline🙏🙏
Well Pauline. Again a draught of cool water making it all real. Your words came thirty years too late though. And I felt there must be some less bleak vision for all the people who haven’t had children for one reason or another. But your words filtered through over the afternoon. Drip, drip, drip. And after a quiet review with my love, a point of realisation / resolution was reached. You helped me / us hone in on that fork in the road and what went wrong. Essentially we were given the opposite advice from what you gave your young client. And were blocked by our guide then punished by him for not flowing. And then there was all the lack of support outside of that, and other multiple factors that might have made the difference even with that block if they had been different themselves. But it did come clear - very clear. And it helps to have seen it clearly. It changes it all and maybe we can pick up from where and who we were at that fork in the road and now instead have faith in ourselves as we were and as we might have been if guided by your wisdom instead.
"we're not the most popular channel" -take it as a compliment!!! The quality of this information is way too much for most people to "get" as it doesn't pander to the woke, "popular bubblegum psychology" maxim of this day and age. Keep up the good work. All your videos are a treat to listen to. Also, I have to add that as a woman with a devouring mother no one ever wants to hear my version of events because it doesn't fit in to the popular image of "mother-daughter going out and getting mani-pedis and having high tea together and sharing all their secrets".. In fact friends ad siblings have gone as far as to make me feel like some sort of deranged criminal for having such views of my mother while simultaneously gaslighting me and trivializing my experience.
Yes, the situation requires titrate ing the grief. That can take a life time. It seeps into every corner of your life. It’s radical, the developmental fallout is hard to comprehend.
I have a suspicion that your work is especially helpful for a specific niche of people. I mean, people who are very intellectual and have problems with the feeling side of things.
You guys really are doing a tremendous work. I feel like it's important for us, the audience, to show our love and gratefulness whenever we can. This is still a small channel, so those few words of encouragement and thanks have more weight to them, when you'll get bigger they'll become common money and lose their pop. So i say it now! ;) keep at it team :*
True Gems of information you folks are delivering and I feel eternally grateful to have found your channel after years of abuse, suffering, philosophers and gurus to try and ease the suffering. I'm 45 yrs old beginning my journey to try and discover my personal myth. Thank You!
Absolutely fantastic insights! I was aware for a long time that inner child work does bring resolution, but most times started to unconsciously identify with that aspect of me in an attempt to become unconditional/bridge the gap. What happens as a result is it leaking into the conscious as a baseline experience, which reverses the polarity of the conscious towards the negative. So I thought I was operating at a trauma healing level when I was adapting to it, which was covered by the idea that I am more into feeling (INFP). Now I believe that was becoming emotionally frail rather than sensitive/allowing for instincts to genuinely express.
Hi again Alex Balint, many thanks for sharing your experiences, your insight is hard-won, and its appreciated very much that you share it. If I may, I'd like to re-post here a reply I made above. Its not 100% applicable in your case, as I'm sure that you're happy 'being' and INFP. I'd just be concerned for you that it would further restrict you, by identification with it. In that spirit - here's the copied post, its of relevance in relation to 'Feeling and Emotion'. Kindest Regards, Steve " the best way is to be conscious of 'Feeling' and by that I'm referring not to Jung's Feeling Function, as its commonly modelled, reported, promoted and pushed by online Typology entrpreneurs, but, to the a-priori consciuousness of 'feeling' that underpins all of our reactions to both internal and external events, when they reach consciousness. The proof of this is in 'Affective Neuroscience' (Prof Jaak Panksepp) and Neuropsychoanalysis (Prof Mark Solms). This is grounded firmly in neuroscience and known and identified pathways. 'Type', as generally appreciated. is literally an 'after-thought' for true feeling, which emerges as follows: gene transcription, instinct, Limbic System (a-priori consciousness) - 'emotion' - cortico-thalamic consciousness 'feeling' and then, thinking, (cognition). Changes in deep structure learning (including both self-suggestion and influence form others) needs to be made at the approriate levels. Cognitive basedf suggestion is superficial, has a doise-effect curve and a 'half-life'. Changes at the level of the Limbic System and Instincts not only create profound enduring change, they are most often permanent. Kindest Regards, Steve."
James, I watched nearly every Aion video you did with Stefan, and I'm really quite taken by how much it seems you've grown and matured im that time. I really admire how it seems you've been coming into your own power, and that I was able to witness some of that.
Very valuable explanations you have offered here, I am grateful to have learned what I could from your video. So many useful points and examples that have helped me consider a new way of approaching my issues. Instincts is a so often misunderstood and forgotten approach among the self help or psychology offerings on RU-vid, such a fruitful presentation and thank you. I’ll be sure to rewatch this one.
Your videos are very fascinating and interesting. The discussions you bring up are helping me to understand many things that I have been asking myself during the last months. Very important for me was talking about the instinctive level as a way to understand how complex issues are formed and how they function. This helps me to understand myself personally by analysing my dreams as well as our social reality. I keep a dream journal and everytime I try to look at the dreams from that point of view, instead of over rationalising symbols, looking for archetypes and so on. Moreover, as I have a degree in ethnology and am interested in psychological anthropology, I find it very illuminating considering aspects about life and society as well as behaviour from an instinctual level. I have to say that I look at art, religion, spiritualy, symbolism and so on, from a different perspective. It is exactly this perspective, that leads to more understanding. I feel sometimes, that we only focus on things that are complex and deep, but forget basic issues. Thank you very much for investing time into this!
First of all, thank 3 of you for recording these talks. I have found what Steve teaches about the instincts veeery important, like finding a missing piece to make the whole system work. I used religion to communicate with my unconscious and for some time that did the job. But later I've lost my faith, due to rational reasons. But it was frightening - I've felt veery empty and directionless. Your teaching gives a cure for this spiritual problem. Now I practice asking the psyche for its opinion on important decisions and I think I can feel it answers. It is like rediscovering my feeling function. I think it really helped me and for that I am greatful.
Wow! This content is arriving in such an appropriate time! Thanks for this series. I was afraid and hesitant to watch this video when it came out (not surprisingly since I am struggling with the devouring mother) but it turns out that you are actually providing solutions that connect with something I have been thinking lately: instincts and the idea of the inner child. Lately I have been telling myself that I want to revindicate what I felt I was when I was a child and find my rightful place in the world. Your words definitely resonate with me and I am still shocked at how good the moment was to watch this. Looking forward to your next videos!
Yes! For an emotion to be perceived, there must be a perceiver. That which perceives (knows) is consciousness (awareness). There is no perception or experience outside of this.
I think my mother was too touchy with me for too long while simuntaniusly becomming animus possesed pretty much all the time and almost violently so, these opposites really made things so much worse than just either one of them alone because of creating a sensitive side in me and then demoloshing it at a very young age. Before the age of 5 though, I started resisting her, although whatever I recieved from her because of her touchyness I took, but in a psychopathic way i also started supressing anything sensitive in me to such extent of not having even eye contact with people. I resisted anything sensitive in me to the point of me becomming bitter, suicidal and wishing for death, massacre and suffering to the most innocent things, problaly from not getting anything liveliefull because of me relation to other people, in my teens I was either so distant from my instincts and emotion I couldn't feel anything and the world and me feelt unreal, or I was induldging in psychopathic behaviour with a charming persona, although it seems like a lot of people also saw the evil through me and were afraid of me, my father also said that he saw something evil in me, even when I was a little child The root of this is I think the mother complex the thing I have urged the most, pervertedly too much, is intimate connection to someone even at the sacrifice of god, and extreame fear of being hurt
My father died at an early age so me and my older siblings have these problems. I believe I'm the only one who's come to terms with this and it's going to be quite hard sitting down with my mother explaining the "Devouring mother" etc. Being now conscious of this, its a horrible feeling being 18 and still feel as some bear cub, I'm trying to understand and work with my self perception but It's [ofc] rather hard. Thanks for the relating videos.
Also remember to adress how you're mother could have felt when it came up to her to raise you and your siblings. Don't be too harsh or blame her. Tell the truth in a form which takes in account your and your mothers feelings and experiences. I've been through difficult talks with my parents years ago as well and just thought to maybe give you some tips. Good luck and may truth and honesty guide you. Be well!
Hi AxeManShip, many thanks for sharing, so sorry for the your loss of your father. You'll be facing many challeneges right now, and as these work through for you, you'll find the shape of your path becoming clearer. A family is a system, that produces its own self-regulation, with specific tolerances, that maintain its 'stability' over time. You entering this next phase of your life will change those tolerances, and it will no doubt be very emptional. Your instincts have called your attention to them, so that'sá cl;ue that you're contemplating making changes to the balance of the family and its constituent relationships. To manage the emotion, the best way is to understand the deep instinctual needs behind them, that in itself, will reeduce their tension. Your mother will have her own instincts and her own adaptations to the family as you and your siblings have growen and matured. Its a hard task to be conscious, but to be so, is the best way to satisfy instinct, and the adaptatoions necessary to your stage of life, and the challenges of the future. My Blessings and Kindest Regards, Steve.
Man this world is so fucked up sometimes. Thanks for doing what you guys do. You’re helping me push forward despite all the madness of this world we live in.
This understanding that emotional or identity damage is biological makes me wonder about diseases in the body that are correlated with said damage. For instance, I was suffering with tailbone pain for years. It was directly correlated to an addiction which was directly correlated to my mother wound. It was really a hidden belief that my existence did not matter and I was worthless. The deeper into addiction I went, the more intense the physical pain. When my awareness was finally illuminated about the addiction and I stopped the behavior, remarkably, the tailbone pain completely went away. What about cancer and other forms of disease? Makes me wonder.
Oh, yeah. I've found out that thing almost recently, that lots of retainers/nofappers are just run away from their issues. I think, this style of life is possible if there are no complexes or problems, related to that. But if someone has some problems, so those problems should be solved and it is impossible to run away from it. It is easier for someone to say gloryfyingly that he is on some practice, being proud of it, instead facing his issues.
The ideas/methods mentioned around 25:30 regarding processing and transforming these wounds are awesome. I catch myself falling in to the same trap as James, or falling back in to other forms of withdrawing/avoidance/escape instead of working with the emotions or signals at hand. Some times the ideas you guys present trigger me a bit haha... its a welcome frustration as I slowly come to understand the bigger picture after some time. Also nailed a lot of the confusion around no fap that I have seen but never connected like that. And James' insight about how pathologizing that stuff ends up playing in to the hands of an overprotective mother.. haha damn that was brilliant. Thanks for another great chat!
Hi again Nick Matthews, many thanks for your comment, its appreciated very much. Its difficult to get accross over even a series of videos, what our message is, so we have to be content with a slowly forming bigger picture - just as you have put it. James has learned the lessons of the mistakes of the NoFap industry very well. Instinct will not be cathected into substition without cost. If the 'meaning' and goal - the 'teleology' of an instinct, is not understood, the pressure from it will increase. Ritualizing substitution, instead of understanding its purpose most often leads to neurosis, eventually. Adaptation is the 'inetntionality' of instknct. Abstinence is repression by another name, if, we are tralking about a natural force rather than say an injested substance. Pornography, is indeed a substitution for an instinct, but the context for its use, is individual, not collective. Natural Fap, is better than NoFap. To focus on Fap is not the answer to solving its excessive use. Pornography, modestly used, is normal. Separation from instincts and a failure to understand them, is the cause of excess, repression is not the cure. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Recently, I went to a therapist. He wanted to dig out my traumas and scars from the past so that I can personify and interact with them (whatever that means). I told him that I don't remember these situations and that I want to work on my current struggles... so he sent me away. There was no talk about instincts or my through-line. What a waste of time that was!
Hi again Knight Arnold my friend. Your instinct to resist those suggestions by the therapist were healthy. Present adaptation, is instinctive, as this ensures optimal balance in the day-to-day lived experience of the here-and-now, and, prepares for the future. There's nothing to be gained by infantilizing people and regressing the Ego to a state of vulnerability and immaturity, nor by re-traumatizing people by exposure to traumas from the past. Kindest Regards, Steve.
10:00 on, Steve you explained it so eloquently when you talked about CBT (I mentioned this on another video of yours about how dissatisfied I was with CBT) that I was audibly agreeing 😂 That's exactly how I felt. CBT is a patch, a temporary "fix" that wears off as soon as you stop therapy and you back to square one. Too bad I can't afford proper therapy such as your school provides. But then again, the material you provide is immensely helpful for understanding and it does help as much as one can hope for self-work. I'm currently reading your book on the Personal Myth and it's fabulous. Recommend it to all who may read this.
Hi again @Verschlimmbesserung, thank you, once more, for your kind words, and support for our channel. You're a "Fellow Labourer, in the Vineyard of the Human Soul". Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline.
This refers to you @Verschlimmbesserung “Every effort, honestly made, is of such intrinsic value, that it stands equal to any. This fellow journeyman, has the making within him”. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏
I recently stumbled across Jungian psychology of the anima and animus and was blown away by the accuracy with which Jung described my mindset. Then I found this video and was blown away by the opening candid admissions of several viewers about their same-sex attractions and their mother complexes. I am also in this same boat. I have been diagnosed with about 10 different disabilities in the last 8 years, and I am certain that most, if not all of them, have come as a result of the chronic stress that my traumas have left upon me. I am hoping that I can overcome these things and find the man within myself that I long to be and to do the things and be the things I want to be, but it feels so incredibly hopeless in view of the (as your correctly put it) politicised nature of sexuality, or what is in reality a symptom of an underlying dis-ease. I wish people would admit this to themselves and I wish people would be open to treating people like myself who want to work on this but I don’t know where to begin, and I feel completely and utterly helpless. Can you help me? Please.
Hi @alexsomersby, thank you for your kind comment, and for sharing your experience. We'd suggest that you have support in place, locally to you, but if you're interested in our approach, you could join our Discord Server, where there is a community of genuine, motivated and helpful enquirers into self-development, and depth psychology. There are thoussands of posts available, several thousand by me (Steve) with peer support, Direct (private) messaging, resources etc. Kindest Regards, Steve
@@JungToLiveBy Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately there are no such resources where I live and I cannot afford the monthly Discord channel subscription due to my disability related unemployment (I’m poor lol). Thank you anyway. I’m glad that at least there are others who understand the truth behind all this that the majority are too afraid to admit.
At 25:00 Steve mentioned there are methods for getting in touch with your instincts at the level of the genome. Do you mind sharing those methods? Or providing links/resources for such practices? Thanks!
Hi Dean Lenoir, many thanks. The best methods are perhaps surprisingly (outside of a guided process of personal development with a therapist) to study the psychobiology of hyponosis, through the works of Dr Ernest L Rossi. Rossi is boith a Jungian and a Freudian analyst, and a psychobiologist. This will give you the evidence basis for changing genomic transcription - the pathways where then changes take place. Then to understand instincts in this context, I'd suggest the work of Professor Mark Solms - Neuropsychologist, Affective (emotional) Neuroscientist, Psychoanalyst and Neuri-Psychoanalyst. If you Google his name you'll find may references and he's on RU-vid giving lectures and answering questions. Kindest Regards, Steve.
The point James made about theorising, trying to figure out solutions to heal a wound really hit close to home. There's a thick stack of paper I have of different theories regarding the problems in my life, however, they only give a temporary relief. The revivification the theory gives fades away in a couple days. But perhaps as James said trying to feel the emotion rather than cognitively think it through is a smarter tactic. My over-reliance on thinking has only taken me into pit-falls thus far.
Hi again NeutronNick 11, the best way is to be conscious of 'Feeling' and by that I'm referring not to Jung's Feeling Function, as its commonly modelled, reported, promoted and pushed by online Typology entrpreneurs, but, to the a-priori consciousness of 'feeling' that underpins all of our reactions to both internal and external events, when they reach consciousness. The proof of this is in 'Affective Neuroscience' (Prof Jaak Panksepp) and Neuropsychoanalysis (Prof Mark Solms). This is grounded firmly in neuroscience and known and identified pathways. 'Type', as generally appreciated. is literally an 'after-thought' for true feeling, which emerges as follows: gene transcription, instinct, Limbic System (a-priori consciousness) - 'emotion' - cortico-thalamic consciousness 'feeling' and then, thinking, (cognition). Changes in deep structure learning (including both self-suggestion and influence form others) needs to be made at the approriate levels. Cognitive basedf suggestion is superficial, has a doise-effect curve and a 'half-life'. Changes at the level of the Limbic System and Instincts not only create profound enduring change, they are most often permanent. Kindest Regards, Steve.
A fundamental (to me) insight is that there is no arrow of direction of causality in the relationship between the physical-biological and spiritual-psychological. It’s a “goes-with” with situation, as Alan Watts might say.
Hi @steverosenfarb, many thanks for your interesting observation and contribution. For a view on informational monism, and superpositioning in IPSA theory and clinical practice pleasse see the reports iby Steven T Richards and James P Dowling published in the 42nd Bulletin of the International Neuropsychoanalysis Society, both in print and online . To reference IPSA content please use the forms: Richards, S.T. in Maria Sonia Goergen & Ana Delgadillo Hernández Editors (2022): 42nd Bulletin of the International Neuropsychoanalysis Society, Neuropsychoanalysis, Routledge Taylor Francis Group DOI: 10.1080/15294145.2022.2144935 To link to this article: doi.org/10.1080/15294145.2022.2144935. Then, repeat for the submission by James P Dowling. The reports cover the latest developments in IPSA theory and clinical practice, within the wider new-paradigm field that includes Neurospychoanalysis. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏
I stumbled upon your channel recently and am interested as to if you work with combat vets? I am a disabled combat vet, and have been getting nowhere with therapists at the VA. Cheers.
Hi CJ Stiussi, I have immediate, unconditional and default respect, for any combat veteran, and salute you, for your service to your country. We don't have a physical presence in the VA, but if we could offer some kind of appropriate and realistic support, at a distance, then you'd be welcome to join our Discord server. My Kindest Regards, Steve.
Hi cristel de luna, many thanks, we've tried and will continue to try to sort the audio out, we're getting there, but no one solution has hit the optimal balance just yet. Kindest Regards, Steve.
6:04 very true, the government offers/supports help, and it looks and feels like it's heavily influenced by a distorted sense of reality, but I'm sure that the people that are and want to be a therapist have pure intentions, but I cannot so that so bluntly about the government sadly
Hi again TimOtheus, its siad that 'The Road To Hell is Paved With Good Intentions' - which may be a bit extreme, but its a good prompt for reflectio, in therapists. Many get processed according to dogma, amongst thne worst of these in my experience have been from some of the so-called 'Humanistic' and 'Person-Centred' therapists. Many of whom deny that anything such as a 'Shadow' exists, and have no understanding or regard for the unconsciouys or the grounded reality of biology. Such people, being dogmatically un-aware of these facts, tend to project their shadow onto everyone who differes in experience ot viewpoint, and be utterly unaware of their psyche outside of that which is accpeted into consideration by their theory. They also deny medicine, and its healing power. Goevrnments, are corrupt by nature as the Will To Power expressed to the degree of becoming a politciian, necessarily corrupts. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I wish I had you guys as therapist. I have a huge mother complex, finally moved out of my moms house at 28 3 months ago, but still have so many neurotic behaviors ingrained in me. What type of therapy do you suggest?
Jung swore throughout his life to adaptation (Anpassung) and, without exception, traced all abnormalities back to incomplete adaptation. It was not until later his life, that he realized things didn’t match. Social reality is interwoven with corrupt and fantastic elements, and in terms of its reality, completely unreliable. Adaptation is naive, low-key and comical.Beyond a certain limit, if one recognizes the corruption of a conventional system of lies and yet adapts, it is a person’s crime against himself. Moral impurity that undermines the seriousness of human life. Jung now turns to the opposite side.The cause of mental disorder is not deficient, but excessive adaptation, and this is the reason for the mass psychological abnormality that occurs in this age. Refusal to adaptation leads to rebellion and confrontation with the community, resulting in insanity;adaptation,on the other hand,leads to opportunism,which results in corruption .The other mental illness.Nice little trap.More than a psychologist can handle. The amount of effort and knowledge has been put into the video is remarkable. They are like walking on eggshell, as moving toward the grown up stuff, you know... personal responsibility, free will etc. It is on you. a quote from the Red Book by Jung : It is presumptuous to say that man is sick. Whoever wants to be the soul's shepherd treats people like sheep. He violates human dignity. It is insolent to say that people are like sheep. Who gives you the right to say that man is sick and a sheep? Give him human dignity so he may find his ascendancy or downfall, his way”
It's ok that you're not the most popular channel. In most endeavors, very few people reach the master level and journeymen don't always see eye-to-eye with the masters (which is likely why they remain journeymen)
Thanks @blakegilbert5900, you've understood the spitit and intent of the channel. Respect to You, and for Your Journey. Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline🙏🙏
Are there any books about this to read? Now that I've got a glimpse of how badly my own mother messed me up, i have a craving to get some answers and hopefully actually finally "mature." It's so damn hard to understand myself. I always knew my soul was telling me something, but I've rarely been able to truly listen and fix things. I know now that i really can't do this alone. I need help
Hi Wyatt, there’s hundreds of books, out there, but if you want the specific approach in this video, you could join our Discord server. It’s a very active and supportive community 🙏
Could an instinct be "hoarding resources" compel one so start a business? I'm trying to figure how on a instinctual level this could be. Even when I was a child and first started speaking my family said I acted and talked like a businessman.
I think it has more to do with the instinct to acquire status (Adlerian layer). It could also be your creative drive that wants to manifest something of use (which would therefore lead to more status and resources).
Hi again Kelvin Givens, 'hoarding' is a topic all on its own, and is the subject of a lot of discussion on TV and RU-vid. The issue will be the extent of the supposed hoarding and its context. Fundamentally, as a 'notion' and abstracted out of a specifric context, it describes instinctive behaviour expressed in a way that will meet with a nunmber if needs. Thats a general respnse so not specific to any one case. It could be viewed positively in the light you suggest, and that would be a parctical way to release the underlying drives into action in the world, rather than retain things out from enegagement with the world. The business compulsion could them be seen as a preparation for action, actualised through the engagement of business itself. Kindest Regards, Steve.
@@kelvingivens1629 Yes, it serves a number of instincts, but can be summarized as one, in and of, itself. Jung would certainly have said so. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Hi Henrik Wrede, I'd recommend starting with a wider context first so that Freud and Jung can be seen in that context, so Henri Ellenberger's 'The Discpovery of The Unconscious' - which is a classic history of depth psychology. After that, pretty much anything they have written and dive in, bearing in mind that they both had very long careers, and revised their work and their views over the decades, so things change for both of them. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I partially agree with what you says about no fap because this practices can push you to get dopamine from human interaction and not from addictive behaviors
Wait, so what to do about the mother complex? I get the point that Jungian psychology is not the be-all-end-all of psychology, but I didn't really understand what it is you're recommending to move beyond.
Hi Russell Ballestrini, many thanks for your suggestion - I'll ask @James P Dowling as he edits the channel and its videos etc. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Hi againRussell Ballestini, yes, its basically any approach that works with the 'dynamic unconscious' - so the principal schools are Freud, Adler and Jung. Kindest Regards, Steve.
I love my mother but I am afraid of letting her down, even my career is something to please her, but I keep disappointing her and myself, last year I said enough is enough, I started doing things for me, I felt good, but I went back and changed my career to what "she" says it's best.... I am afraid most of the time and my addictions are getting to me.... Help me
Can you recommend a therapist in London regarding sexual problems? I’m a man, been doing nofap and would like to explore my past to see how it may have impacted me. Thanks.
Hi M S, thanks for sharing. I don't normally recommend a therapist unless I know how they work, as the personality of the therapist is a vital element in the mix, overall. I'd suggest joining our Discord, just oin the lowest tier, where you can meet with others who have followed a similar path to you, and have found solutions. Otherwise, London is full of therapists of all kinds, so the main problem will be the chossing of the right one, which I'm sure is your concern. Kindest Regards, Steve.
Hi @darelljackson4132, thanks for your very kind comment, yes, they have, there are plenty of others in other rooms, over 50 years of personal and professional study, its not a lot of books to read. Respect & Kindest Regards, Steve & Pauline
@@JungToLiveBy Thanks for commenting!! I shall continue to watch and support you guy's channel!! These are very powerful and informative and sensitive (but necessary) topics needed for discussion, for growth!!
Very interesting. But how can that person or any person overcome their mother complex without having a child? In the example of the woman what if she can't or doesn't want to have children?
Hi Rualman, thats a very important issue to raise, thank you. Jung himnself remarked that we can never become ourselves until we separate out from the psychology of our parents, so, in that sense, its a collective task to reconcile parental influence, and no matter how much we may think otherwise, unconscious affects are always present. Even 'good' parenting brings unavoidable issues of adaptation for children. The main thing as a parent is to be 'good enough'. Regarding the specifics of your question, if a woman can't or doesn't want, to have children, then it will be part of her worked-through and lived life, to find an accomodation for this, and of course many do. Becoming pregnant is a challenge, and many women will find themselves pushed by instinct to do so, despite how they may otherwise feel. Overcoming the Mother Complex is a clinical issue, or one of self-development, only, when we understand that it may have become a problem. If that is the case, then the focus must be on that, rather than on general posibilities or altenatives, about the Mother Complex more widely (for example in theory). So, where it is a problem, then the task is tosolve it, from within the person's own context. Kindest Regards, Steve.
From about 22:29 you seem to describe the same process as I understand it (I'm a layman, forgive me) that is the basis for EMDR, ISTDP ... and any number of other emotion-based psychotherapies, best described in Ecker's "Unlocking the Emotional Brain". From memory, Ecker describes the therapeutic secret sauce to pathological complex extinction as holding two completely different views in mind at once - one being the "target" view learned from childhood, for example, that is causing problems for the patient, and the other being a new updated understanding of reality. Whether I explained myself well or not, I'd imagine you know what I mean. So my question is if your own views jive with that therapeutic framework, and whether in lacking access to a therapist of your ilk, one might derive positive outcomes from these other (emotion-based) modalities? Thanks.
Hi @frankyfourfingers1382, thank you for your comment. Most psychotherapies, start as intuitions from lived experience, and then gradually, collapse into themselves as 'cognitive' constructs, based on that original intuition. In this, they're systems of 'suggestion' - that is 'influence', that require a paced and led folowing, from their presuppositions, into a new state (e.g. 'cure') as suggested (predited) by their constructs. 'Emotional' based psychotherapies are narrative explanations, just as 'cognitive' ones are. Those that have any real effect, outside of simple and superficial suggestion, will 'agree' with fundamental self-reegulation (homeostatis) enough, for them to deliver a result. To do this, their informational content must be resonant with instinct, and the genome, as well as being deliverable, functionally, in the world. Effective therapies meet these requirements, as being 'good enough'. Kindest Regards, Steve
On the one hand there has been discussion of the superior (for want of a better word) masculinity of foreign cultures and how that related to shit testing in women and then a rather negative analysis of the symbolic masculinity of no fap/weights/cold showers. I accept that there are other forms of masculinity as Pauline said, but my gut tells me that these symbolic forms are more positive than negative. To me they seem more congruent with our ancestors who would have been tougher men and to whom would discipline and resisting impulses would have been commonplace (along side preparation for real combat). It touches on the metaphysical that Evola talks about and Mohammed himself said that the little war was on the battlefield, the big war was in the mind (in reference to the control of impulse). I think if these symbolic movements are churning out a number of stronger and more disciplined men, then great. Perhaps it's coming through the collective unconscious in reaction to the 'intrusion' of other cultures? Just a thought.
I understand what it means to work out something psychologically, but I don’t quite understand the genomical or biological level that is mentioned in the video. Does anyone have any idea how it is done? Your responses are much appreciated
Hi Pershing, I’d recommend joining our Discord Server, as there’s a lot of support available there from Peers and from the JTLB Team. Kindest Regards, Steve🙏
Jung made a mistake in the early 1930s over-adapting to a particular political zeitgeist. He learned from his admitted mistake. Many analysts today are over adapting to another extant political zeitgeist. Many of those criticise Jung for his error.
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