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Getting Started in Fly Tying (for under $50) 

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What's the bare minimum needed to get started in fly tying? Here's a list that won't break the bank and will have you tying fish-catching flies in no time.
Note, all of the products listed here were available at J. Stockard Fly Fishing or The Fly Shack, at the prices noted as of publishing (July 2021).
Savage Flies is a project with the mission of encouraging and teaching fly tying to as many people as possible. The channel is named after one of my western Maryland homewaters, the Savage River. I've been uploading three new tying videos a week, with the occasional extra video on other days.
Thanks for stopping by. Please let me know in the comments if you have any tying tips you would like to share or if you have any patterns you would like to see tied here.

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@charlieboutin3341
@charlieboutin3341 3 года назад
Beware! About 3 years ago I decided I’d try to tie a fly on an old vice I inherited. Ordered a beginner pack of material online (mostly feathers), then later realized I needed tools, so got online, Dr Slick kit. Then realized I needed thread 🤨. A little frustrated I mumbled something out loud and was about to get online and my wife who works at a bank says..why don’t you just go to the Flyshop in town. WHAT? 😳 There’s no shop here!...Sure there is, Country Flyfisher Shop he has a store behind his house, comes to the bank every week, I figured you knew about it. I absolutely couldn’t believe it. Great little shop and a wonderful man that owns it. He’s 87 and doesn’t fish much anymore but his knowledge is off the charts. We are best friends now. What started out as a Wooly Bugger has almost turned into a flyshop worth of material (and 7 flyrods..so far) in my own home over the years, and my wife is wondering if she’ll ever get her dining room back. No! 😂 Thats a great video! Thanks for all you do to help us Matt! Hope everyone has a fun and safe 4th of July weekend! God bless all, and God bless America 🎣👍☄️💥🇺🇸
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
That's a great story Charlie! That is one of the best things about being a fly fisherman or tier, you have an instant bond with the others who do it. I'd love to find an old gentlemen who runs a shop behind his house around here. I just checked out the shop you mentioned. If you're talking about the one in Fredericksburg, TX, that is a really cool looking place. :-)
@charlieboutin3341
@charlieboutin3341 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies Yes Matt that’s it! My home away from home. 🙂 Just watched your small fly tying video..great tips! I usually tie larger flies for largemouth but tie some for perch usually around size 10, but love to tie small just for experience. I think my smallest is an 18 so far. It’s amazing how little material is used compared to a big 4/0 bass streamer! 😂 Have a great weekend!
@darrellbrown5528
@darrellbrown5528 3 года назад
As I started off I found that I had friends who liked hunting. As they came back with their quaries I would ask if I could get a few of their feathers (turkey, pheasant, duck). I also had friends in the trapping space. If they had bad pelts for selling they would share. As friends prepare for hunting trips I remind them that I am a tyer.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great advice Darrell. Friends who are hunters and trappers could supply you with a lifetime of materials. And if you got them into fly fishing, you could give them some of your flies in return. Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@hereusethis
@hereusethis Год назад
@@SavageFlies New (as in, I've yet to start, but I'm close) fly tier here. This is fantastic info. Thank you. On the subject of "pelts" -- my cat brings me formerly alive baby bunnies all summer long. Maybe I should start saving them and putting (part of) them to use. 🙂
@kevingulley3850
@kevingulley3850 3 года назад
I’ll add cuticle scissors from Walgreens, they’re low price and super sharp. Starting out, you can cheap out and use Eagle Claw hooks for some patterns. Broom bristles and a lighter for crayfish eyes, beadchain from around the house. Lastly, once a fly gets shredded from a good day, I’ll strip it and tie a freshie on the used hook
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Those are great tips! I've tied a few flies on Eagle Claw hooks back in the day. I hadn't thought about broom bristles, but there could be lots of uses for those. Maybe even as a substitute for quills on some quill body dry flies. Thanks for the note. :-)
@michaelmerlino6753
@michaelmerlino6753 3 года назад
The best hackle to purchase is some type of mottled or grizzly.They cover that “buggy” loke better than a solid color.This is a nice pick for a starter(on the road to bankruptcy)
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Ha! You got that Michael. If we can get some youngsters hooked, we'll have them for the rest of their lives. :-)
@michaelmerlino6753
@michaelmerlino6753 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies I used to be able to visit some taxidermy shops and chisel a bunch of trimmings from them.Don’t know if you can do that now as my hunting addiction has given me more deer hides than I’ll ever be able to use.I have given a lot to other tyers as a gift.My biggest coup was about 5 years ago,I fixed an old Penn fly reel for a woman and became friendly with her(never charged her for the repair).We talked about the best fish for a fly fishing fool,Atlantic salmon,and tying salmon fly tying.One day she showed up and gave me a package,a gift for you.Lo and behold it was a good amount of polar bear natural and dyed.It dits in my material collection,don’t want to use it,still use substitutes when tying.
@epsieblaine7968
@epsieblaine7968 3 года назад
Matt goog video.Reminded me of times gone by.48 years ago I stàrted for less than$ 15.00.Peacock,something every ever new tier needs,the magic material.Matts list will get you started.Get the list and start the fun world of fly tying.Have fun and enjoy.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Thank you! Funny you mention starting tying from almost 50 years ago. I just bought an antique kit from the 1950s. It was really a great find. :-)
@harryjoesather6539
@harryjoesather6539 3 года назад
i started with a monthly fly tying kits post fly and true fly supply come with everything you need comes in the mail.....and i got a vise combo from cabelas made by oasis that i still use... i got it years ago and never used it.... so its like 20 years old...as you know i only been tying little over a year ...but now i have pegboard full of materials and storage bins full....thanks matt .... hope to see some new fly tying people from this.....see ya joe.
@chrisingram9798
@chrisingram9798 3 года назад
I didn’t start tying to save money. It was just the right hobby for my life at the moment. I started with a kit my beautiful wife bought me from cabelas and since then, almost two years, I quit counting at a thousand dollars. The plus side is that I’ve got hundreds and hundreds of flies and something that keeps me busy from time to time. Now my kids are almost old enough to start learning how to fish so when they leave a few flies in a tree it won’t be a big deal. Fifteen years ago when I thought about tying for the first time, I was put off by a friend that showed me his massive collection of materials and equipment. So, I waited and I’m glad I did. Life is funny like that. Thanks for another great video Matt. Have a great fourth everyone!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Appreciate it Chris, and yes, I've stopped counting how much I spend on tying equipment and materials too! It would just depress me. Now you've got me thinking... if I added it all up, and divided it by the number of flies I've tied, I would be in the red. Oops, better to not think about it. It's a hobby (though not really a cheap one!)
@chrisingram9798
@chrisingram9798 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies very true Matt but in the end it is a hobby and any hobby will cost some coin. If our enjoyment is great enough then you cannot put a value on it.
@richardjones2129
@richardjones2129 Год назад
Informative video you did good on this Matt! This is a must see 4 beginners n seasoned tyers 2 share w/those who r interested n tying flies.
@user-es9fm7px6t
@user-es9fm7px6t 7 месяцев назад
My grandson would say what do you need to start tying, is a Grandfather who ties and willing to start you out and has tons of materials and willing to share.
@karljones6594
@karljones6594 3 года назад
Another great video Matt. I agree with you on the Saber hooks great hook for the price
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Thanks Karl! I wish Saber made more of the black finish, barbless ones though. I guess that's personal preference that I like the darker hooks better than the shiny gold ones.
@crowdaddy8355
@crowdaddy8355 3 года назад
I think that’s a great list. Good advice from a good teacher.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Appreciate that Chad. Have a great weekend my friend!
@jeffreystone7327
@jeffreystone7327 2 года назад
Perfect video. Thank you. I’ve made mention of this a few times tonight. Right here is my answer. A basic materials list for a beginner. I will definitely check all the comments as well. Make a list then it’s shopping 🛍 time. Thanks to all in advance for this information. God bless.
@dahutful
@dahutful 3 года назад
Good video Matt. I always tell folks that anything new always starts in $50 increments. Ditto fly tying. You’re one of my faves. David Palmetto Fly n Fish
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Thanks David! I always appreciate you watching. And BTW, I've still got your good ol' South Carolina "Three-way fly" on my to-do list. I'll get through my backlog someday. Have a great 4th my friend!
@jimholland1592
@jimholland1592 3 года назад
Well Matt, I was holding my breath. I could have never done what you just did. All good advice and equipment. Hats off to you my friend 👍
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Thank you Jim! It was actually harder than I thought putting together something like this for under $50. Now for $100, I could come up with a sweet setup for a new tier. :-)
@jimholland1592
@jimholland1592 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies I still couldn’t do that. That is why you so so very needed 👍
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 3 года назад
For the parsimonious (that's the 50 cent word for cheap) folks in the crowd, dissecting needles make really inexpensive bodkins, but they're hard to find one off. If you want to spend a little more money than $50 Scientific Anglers has a tying kit for $75 that comes with tools and materials and pretty nice case. I'm sure other folks have them too, in fact I'm sure Cabelas does because I've got one. You will soon out grow the case if you tie much but it's a good start. Nice video Matt.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Solid point, as I know this SA kit you're talking about. I think it was one of the very first reviews and giveaways I did on the channel. Check out my Smith Fly where I talk about it if you want to go really old school: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vp7n7JVMX4A.html. But anyway, I agree, there are actually dome decent materials in this kit. Thanks for the note and have a great 4th my friend!
@richarddemeza7195
@richarddemeza7195 3 года назад
Great video. I’m so glad someone has done this that doesn’t have a vested commercial interest in fly tying. Your interest is in trying to help new Tiers get started. The only advice I can offer up is once you get the basic tools, which are not an option. is to try and figure out what type of fish you’re going to target. I’ve found that if you’re not careful you can find yourself going down a rabbit hole. Especially with the different materials available. It can be overwhelming. So for me I enjoy tying all types of flies. So my rabbit hole is a canyon. But it doesn’t have to be that way. Just figure out what type of fishing you’ll do in your area and learn those flies and materials. Thanks again
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great advice Richard and I appreciate the comment. And you're right-- several tying channels out there are run by fly tying shops and they are quite likely trying to sell you something. I'm just wanting to get more people interested in tying. Besides, anybody who gets hooked on this sport will probably buy a nice vise someday anyway. :-)
@slickydicky
@slickydicky 3 года назад
There is a lot to be said for Dr slick scissors. I recommend the all purpose model or maybe their hair scissors. I have the all purpose model with the fancy titanium nitride finish and they are well worth the investment. If youre skilled enough,, you can touch up scissors with a diamond rod and keep them going much longer. If that's something you try to do, I recommend practicing with budget scissors so you don't ruin the good ones, I learned that the hard way lol
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great comment David, and I too use Dr. Slick as my go-to scissors. I don't think I would ever be skilled enough to sharpen them though! But the good thing is that they hold an edge for a good while. And a good pair of their scissors easily lasts me a year or more.
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
@TERRYBIGGENDEN 3 года назад
I'g go along wth that, but add pheasant tail. So super useful! Also. if I had my time again. I'd onely choose black, white. great and brown threads. Definitely grizzle hackle is the way to go and a hare's ear mask (still don't have one). I'm impressed by how cheap thi gs are for you in USA. Here hooks are sold in packs of 25, and they cost roughly $15-20 US (I'm in Australia). Anyway I've leaned to use found feathers, chicken feathers and so on, and people gove me bits and pieces that- are really useful. Twine and wool are fantastic, as is chenille. Oh and peacock here or its equivalent is a must. :-) The good thig is most materials go a long way. :-)
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great points in this comment Terry. And you're right, a lot of materials last longer than you might think. A large pack of peacock herl is relatively cheap. And as often as I use it, I think I've had my current pack for a couple of years now. Pheasant tails and a ringneck pheasant skin would definitely be one of my first purchases as a new tier, but I just couldn't squeeze them in with this $50 experiment. And wow, your hooks down under seem crazy expensive. Would any of our retailers here ship to you? I guess if you bought in enough bulk, you might be able to save a little. But I have no idea... I've never shipped anything to Australia!
@davehall2160
@davehall2160 3 года назад
That is some good info Matt Thanks for the video
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Appreciate it Dave. Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@rodchurchill5576
@rodchurchill5576 Год назад
First off you have the best videos that I've seen so far . Learning a bunch without a sales pitch . ....I'm retired . In the 70's I tied and sold thousands of 10 -12 size pan fish poppers . But that was it , it's been 20 yrs or more since I tied . Am somewhat on a budget so please keep that in mind . Who are some of the better quality and priced suppliers . I'm trying my hand at some foam bugs / spiders for pan fish to get started . Wanting to tie some basic flies like the blank Ant , and simple patterns like those . What hooks and sizes should I be looking at ? For the foamies I'm just using cheap eagle claw hooks from walmart . One thing I know nothing about is hackle , when and what are the various types used for . What dubbing set should I get , never ever tried that . Do want to try my hand on maybe some small stream trout fishing , have only used spinning gear doing that there . I know I should get a book or two and sit down and learn , what books are some of the better ones for lets say a beginner . Even after thousands of poppers I just ( kind of )learned how to use a whip finisher plus my sight has slipped open to suggestions on magnifiers or glasses . Appreciate any and all help ! Thanks!
@Jd-yc3gw
@Jd-yc3gw 3 года назад
Good video Matt and I think those choices are very good. When I started I found I was overwhelmed with the types of materials and what to buy. Being recently new to tying one of the other challenges I faced was what materials could tie what flies and I think that’s why some buy kits. I often think my approach to tying was influenced by trying to fill a fly box with a number of different flies to fish with instead of focusing on learning to tie. If I had a do over I think I would purchase a fly tying materials package for the specific flies I wanted to learn to tie and then I would have the materials I needed without buying stuff I didn’t need. The one thing I’ve learned is you can spend lots of money on materials and I found I have materials that I could/should have purchased sooner than later.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Yep, exactly John. Just get the materials for the exact flies you want to tie and expand from there. But then again, if I had been smarter and done that, I wouldn't have things like fluorescent orange calf tail, or a half cape of dyed blue grizzly hackle. Or chartreuse arctic fox? Why the heck did I buy that? I've never even used it!
@Jd-yc3gw
@Jd-yc3gw 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies That’s for those “ specialty” flies that you have to tie every so often. Lol. It would be interesting to take all the materials we never used and see what comes out of that. Hmmm that might be interesting.
@bigdaddy99929
@bigdaddy99929 3 года назад
Great advice!!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Appreciate it Clyde!
@bigdaddy99929
@bigdaddy99929 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies almost the way I got back into it. Plus, I won your Dry Fly package!!!! Thx buddy. Have a safe and fantastic 4th!
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174 3 года назад
As always, great video and information. I must say this is one of my favorite channel to watch in order to learn new things. Each video I watch there is always something to learn from them. I do have a couple recommendations of flies to tie. Terrestrial season is lost among us, so hopper and ant patterns is going to be a must to have in your box. So simple yet effective patterns of these would be great to watch and learn for those of us that has not ever tied these before.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Thank you Tim! I did an ant recently (the deer hair one), but I should probably add a grasshopper or beetle soon. Thanks for the note. Have a great weekend my friend!
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174 3 года назад
Forgot all about that one. But keep doing what you are doing. I was able to retire at a fairly young age after wearing a military uniform for nearly 25yrs. But being young and retired, sitting at home was getting old. So I went to work at Orvis part time due to my love for fly fishing. But every customer I come across when tying I make sure I bring this channel up to help them out, especially if they are just getting into tying. As long as this channel is available, I will always give the word of mouth advertisement for you.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
@@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174 Outstanding, and I really appreciate that. My wife is retired Navy after 23 years. I’m a ten year veteran and now work for the Navy as a civilian. Thanks for your service! Army?
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174
@blue_ridge_on_the_fly4174 3 года назад
My first 12 years were in the Marines and when I EAS’d the following day I sworn in the Army. No break in service. And I thank you and your wife for your service. Keep doing what you’re doing. Maybe if you head down to the Smokies maybe we could cross paths. The Smokies is where I try to do most of my fly fishing. But I do try to hit the high country for native and wild trout. But the Smokies is a whole new level compared to everywhere I’ve fished.
@RockyPhillips
@RockyPhillips 3 года назад
Great advice and awesome layout of materials.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Appreciate it Rocky! Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@jasonarrowood3349
@jasonarrowood3349 3 года назад
I like the tool suggestions but I think I would add a bobbin threader to it. Only cost about $3 but will save lots of frustration. On materials I would suggest picking a fly to start with and buy those materials. Some good choses for trout would be a zebra midge, pheasant tail, or a hares ear. All have common materials that could be used on many other patterns. Happy tying!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
That's great advice Jason. And I've seen other people recommend the same... pick one or two flies and just buy the material for them. Then add your next fly and pick up new material as you go. Thanks for the note. Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@thomaswalls123
@thomaswalls123 3 года назад
I agree with everything said here, I didn't go this route when I started. I bought the best vise for the money, knowing I would be using it for years. But I did start with all the economy tools at first. Unfortunately that didn't last long... Lol. I must've have every bobbin out there, and lots of scissors too.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Oh yeah, scissors and bobbins, I've got a drawer full of them! I did start with a cheap vise, but went to the Peak Rotary pretty quickly and now I'm hooked on my Regal. :-)
@frankmonroe8320
@frankmonroe8320 3 года назад
I'd like to reccomend checking out flea markets and yard sales. I've found some great stuff that some poor tyer left behind and his family was trying to find a home for. Cheap!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great tip Frank! I'd love to find a yard sale with a few shoe boxes full of tying materials. It hasn't happened yet, but I can hope. :-)
@warrenchester8467
@warrenchester8467 3 года назад
Good video thanks. If you’re like me and In your 50’s and just getting in to this then you are also going to need ideally a led magnifying lamp or some magnifier glasses.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Yep, great point Warren. Even if you aren't just getting started, a lot of us have gone to magnifying lamps or glasses. I should mention that in a future video. Thanks for the note. :-)
@huntingmissouri5420
@huntingmissouri5420 3 года назад
My best advice would to befriend a fly tyer and then you dont have to tie your own! Lol no really start off small dont buy alot of feathers or whatever, make sure you are going to stick with it before you get to much money wrapped up in it! And RU-vid will be your bestfriend on learning how to tie flys and the patterns!! I have learned so much from RU-vid, it's the best tool you can have in your tool kit!! Good luck to the new tyres out there, may your tread never break!!!
@kalikasurf
@kalikasurf 3 года назад
Ha ha. 100% true!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Excellent advice Franky. I should have thought of that-- pick one or two flies you want to tie and just get the materials for them. Then if you find you like tying, start picking up more materials, and eventually better tools. I wish I had done it that way. :-)
@joeduca8582
@joeduca8582 3 года назад
Great advice Matt, wish you were around when I started :o) Those prices you quoted were very reasonable. Never knew they had neck clumps, that's about what I paid for a whole Chinese streamer neck years ago, India necks were half that. I can't believe the expense on some materials now. Anyway I use a half hitch tool made from a ballpoint pen. I learned to whip by hand. Bobbin threader - one of those dental floss threaders or suck thread through the tube and cough up crud ;o) Pill bottles, brass casings of various calibers for a hair stacker or did it with two fingers and thumb - learned that from an old book. Get a good light so you can see what you're doing, you'll need it as you age. A designated space to comfortably tie, keeps peace in the house and you won't become a "nomad" tier like me :o/ Biggest obstacles I see are good info and guidance, which you, Matt, aptly provide :o) and cost of materials and tackle. Quality is great, but buy the best you can afford. You're a great service to the craft and sport Matt, kudos!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Ahhh Joe, another one who sucks thread through the bobbin! I actually don't do that as much anymore since I went to the Rite bobbins. They're a little thin and you have to suck pretty hard. :-) And the rest of your tips... great stuff! Thanks for leaving this comment. Someday, now or in ten years from now, some new tier will read these words and think, wow, that's a great idea for a homemade hair packer, or half-hitch tool. Have a great weekend my friend!
@joeduca8582
@joeduca8582 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies Thanks Matt, happy 4th!!
@joeduca8582
@joeduca8582 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies I see wire in the comments, electrical cords from old lamps, toasters, etc. I've stripped "old" TVs too - nice red coated wire. When the repair person comes, ask them for scraps, telephone wire - yes I'm a dinosaur - is very fine, sometimes the plastic insulation can be used too - can't remember the name but there's an old fly that uses that insulation slipped over the hook. Tools- bodkin, make your own with a sewing needle stuck & glued in a dowel. Tweezers - you can find good ones in a dollar store. Head cement - nail polish and some remover works, use your bodkin to apply it, acetone (remover) to thin it.
@toddslichter7831
@toddslichter7831 3 года назад
Great video Matt. Spot on for vice and tools. As others have said, the materials you chose are a good start, but a pheasant tail and a spool of ultra wire would have to be on my list...not sure how to keep it at the $50 mark though. Lol. Also, as you have suggested before, Hobby Lobby is a great place to pick up a variety of useful feathers, yarns, wire, etc. Thanks Matt and I hope you all have a Happy Fourth!!! Stay safe.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
You know Todd, if I had thought about it, I could have skipped the dry fly hackle and got all the materials for several nymphs. Which would have definitely included some pheasant tail and copper wire. Probably even some goose biots. Thanks for the note! Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@MyItalians
@MyItalians 3 года назад
Matt, once again, you have delivered some good info. I started tying two be years ago with a kit from Bass Pro. I still use the vice for traveling. Most tries I have meet, say they have never got rid of their vices. Some times they use them for fun. Personally, I use my first vise to hold flies for display or reference while tying a batch of the same fly. I also suggest to use the first set of scissor, for wire wire rubbing down the road. Your advice is good and the tools of the sport really are not a waist of money.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great advice! Instead of retiring scissors completely, use your old ones for cutting wire and tough materials. Another idea, mark your old scissors with something like electrical tape so you don't get them mixed up with your current ones. Thanks for the note and have a great weekend my friend. :-)
@LAUGHOUTLOUDPUPPETS
@LAUGHOUTLOUDPUPPETS 3 года назад
I own three whip finishers and in 26 years and over 60 thousand hours behind the vice gotta say although I know how to use one I find it just slows me down. But hey if you want one get one. And a good leg material is broom bristles.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Great tips Jody. I haven't thought of broom bristles. Do you have to soak them to soften them up? I imagine you could even wrap them sort of like a quill body for a dry fly too. Interesting...
@kennyb214
@kennyb214 3 года назад
Great video Matt! As others have mentioned I too would add a pheasant tail (my most used material) but i hunt a bit so haven’t had to purchase natural pheasant tail. Also might suggest a box of assorted dubbing instead of a mask- it’s a lot easier to use though it will cost a little more; maybe $10 or so. Anyway, love your videos bud
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Oh yeah, great points Kenny. The pheasant tail, and box of (probably rabbit) dubbing would be one of my first purchases too. I was torn with adding dubbing in this video though. A $13 box of assorted dubbing would have blown my material budget since I was trying to keep everything under $50. And a $3 hare's mask does get you a little bit of dubbing, with the advantage of some tailing and leg material. Thanks for the note!
@frankklimko9058
@frankklimko9058 3 года назад
For Scissors I now use small fiskars. Most craft stores have online coupons that reduce the price.
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
Honestly, the best scissors I have found are the thread scissors from JoAnn's. I am prone to stealing-I mean borrowing-my wife's.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Absolutely right! I borrowed a pair of my wife's cross stitching scissors, and I don't think she's noticed they were missing. But that's been a couple of years so I would say they are legally mine now. :-)
@jasonsfishingagain312
@jasonsfishingagain312 3 года назад
My advice I always give is to buy a tying tool set, but not a full beginners kit. The tying materials in those kits are mostly useless, but the tools are okay. Then just buy the materials to learn to tie some basic fly's like buggers. As you get comfortable with those, most of the techniques for them can apply to others.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
That is great advice. Just pick up enough material for one or two patterns to start with, then gradually add more as you learn new patterns. And before you know it, you'll have boxes and walls full of feathers and furs. :-)
@BlueLinerMedia
@BlueLinerMedia 3 года назад
GREAT video for new comers! I’m surprised you didn’t say marabou though! Haha
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
I actually thought about marabou, and if I was more of a streamer tier, that would definitely be on the list. Thanks for the note. :-)
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
If you check some of the fur trader or leather worker websites, they will usually sell you scrap piece bundles of various fur scraps for peanuts. Can't make much with it in leather craft, but it's great for various hair for fly tying. Often they throw in scraps of exotic stuff. I got a bundle of scraps a while back with bear, lynx, white fox for like under $10.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
That's a great idea Ryan! Maybe I'll pick up a bundle of this and do a future video on it. But first... I've got the thread rack I want to make this weekend. I got some dowels today and will probably just use scrap 1x2 boards for the base. We'll see how it goes. :-)
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies Yeah, I was thinking about that today. If you wanted to get a can of the spray on polyurethane, makes a nice, easy finish.
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies I sent you an email with a link to the best fur scrap supplier I have found.
@FlyTyer1948
@FlyTyer1948 3 года назад
@@RyanAshley419 Ryan, would it be okay if I got that fur scraps site from Matt? He has my email & I think he would be willing to send it to me if you say it’s okay. I’m always curious about trying new materials & also saving money.
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
@@FlyTyer1948 Sure, that's fine. I would share it here but wasn't sure if RU-vid would boot a commercial link as spam or something.
@jamesvatter5729
@jamesvatter5729 3 года назад
Additionally... 1. A friend who hunts waterfowl. 2. A friend who raises pea fowl and guineas. 3. A lady who knits and will give you scrap yarn. 4. A friend who is a taxidermist. (They always have scraps) 5. A friend who hunts upland birds. 6..........
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
And 7. A spouse who doesn't look at your checking account balance to see how much that small package from J. Stockard actually cost! And for your #2, the peafowl... I plan to fill my farm with free range pea hens and cocks when I retire. Now I hear the cocks are pretty loud and territorial birds, but it'll be a fun experiment. :-)
@jamesvatter5729
@jamesvatter5729 3 года назад
Yes, they are loud. I had a retired game warden friend who had ten acres on the edge of town. Along with his guineas, they made the geese I had as kid sound like church mice.
@CBL138
@CBL138 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Matt, what came first…fly fishing or tying?
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
@TERRYBIGGENDEN 3 года назад
I forgot-copper wire! :-)
@stocktim
@stocktim Год назад
I bought a hare's mask 20 years ago - never used it :-) include pheasant tail instead.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies Год назад
Good feedback Tim! And honestly, I couldn't live without either. 😄
@tacosauce1948
@tacosauce1948 3 года назад
Here in Indiana, them dry chunks are $15 and them hares masks are $5.95. Not sure why more expensive.
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Some hare's masks at places like Bass Pro are also about $6 here in Maryland too. This one here was from J. Stockard online and it was a grade 2 so that might be one difference. I've never seen the dry neck chunks for more than $12 but I think even that is a decent price for them. Thanks for the note!
@SCYCOFISHINGHUNTING
@SCYCOFISHINGHUNTING 3 года назад
I get all my hooks and beads from Wholesale fly company. They have super amazing prices
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
I just checked them out, very nice! Their hook prices are very competitive. I think I'll give them a shot, maybe try some of their barbless buzzer and scud hooks. Thanks for the note!
@SCYCOFISHINGHUNTING
@SCYCOFISHINGHUNTING 3 года назад
@@SavageFlies Could you do a video on a bigger trout streamer, that is simple? I’ve looked for a simple big streamer pattern but all of them are articulated and use tons of materials. Thanks
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
I think we can do that. I just watched Brian Weis tie his knucklehead and yes, that is pretty complex. I think we can do something simple with a zonker strip. Just added to my to-do list. 👍
@cephasmcpher67peteroutdoorspip
@cephasmcpher67peteroutdoorspip 3 года назад
I like to support my local fly shop which is actually over 50 miles away but I see tons of fly tying material on Amazon and sometimes the price just seems too good to be true so i'm sceptical to buy online atleast from Amazon. I have ordered from J. Stockard which was a great experience but really i've said all that to say this is it best to maybe pay a little more from an actual online fly shop in general are most reputable and do you have any go to places you shop mainly online?
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Cephas- great comment, and yes I do have my go-to online shops. My top three, in this order: J. Stockard, The Fly Shack, and then the Caddis Fly Shop. I do also support my local shops when possible, but my closest one is two hours away. And if I need a material I don't have, I can order it online and have it in two days. I might only get to the fly shops once a month or so. Thanks for the note!
@crippledgaming4118
@crippledgaming4118 3 года назад
Hey man my name is Robert, I’m disabled and have been trying to get into tying flies, I have a vise kit (not the greatest), I haven’t managed to successfully tie a fly yet and I’ve been at it for a little while 6 months to a year, I’ve been trying to tie the zebra midge on a size 16-18 hook, should I start with bigger flies for like bass that have bigger hook sizes or stay with the smaller? Also should I invest in a better vise? I think it may be time to because my vise is terrible at holding hooks. I’d appreciate any advice. Thanks!!
@RyanAshley419
@RyanAshley419 3 года назад
I can't speak for Matt, but I know in my previous job where I beat my hands all to pieces, I had to all but give up tying for several years because my hands cramped so badly, I honestly thought I was getting arthritis. Bigger flies was about all I could occasionally do. I still have my days where it's a challenge to do the really hard, small stuff. I would recommend getting a good vise with a solid, heavy base. I hate using those ones with the C Clamps. I would spend all my time fiddling this those things. I would recommend one with an easy to use clamp. Some of them have the adjustable tension ones with the screws that are hard to adjust. Maybe @SavageFlies might do a video on the different tie flying vise clamps.
@crippledgaming4118
@crippledgaming4118 3 года назад
@@RyanAshley419 thank you so very much, i absolutely love to fish but don’t get to do it often so in my mind the closest thing would be to make flies lol. I’m thinking about trying to switch to bigger flies that may be easier to a degree and upgrading my vise because it literally doesn’t hold a hook anymore after all of my attempts lol
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Hi Robert, thanks for the note! I would say starting with bigger flies will definitely be easier. I was tying some #20 elk hair caddises tonight and they were giving me plenty of trouble. As far as your vise goes, the number one requirement of a vise is that it holds a hook without slipping so if yours isn't doing that, I would definitely think about upgrading it. Take a look at my video on the "5 Vises for under $100" and you'll see some pretty good options for new tiers. Thanks again for the note and good luck!
@FlyTyer1948
@FlyTyer1948 3 года назад
@@crippledgaming4118 Hi Robert. I’m also Robert. I relate to your wanting to tie as a way to be more connected to fishing, since you can’t always go. I’m handicapped & can no longer fish, but I have resumed tying & donate my flies to stay connected. I strongly recommend tying larger flies, especially starting with Woolly Buggers. They are extremely useful & fairly easy to tie. Best wishes.
@gregb8824
@gregb8824 3 года назад
...BEWARE, this is how the addiction begins...
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Oh yeah, then when you start catching fish with your own flies, there's no turning back. :-)
@TERRYBIGGENDEN
@TERRYBIGGENDEN 3 года назад
One more thin-g don't buy a kit.-just get the basics (good tools-but not really expensive ones) and learn with those..
@kalikasurf
@kalikasurf 3 года назад
Dang! I sold my soul to the devil, and I could’a just spent 50 bucks? Got ripped off again!!!
@slickydicky
@slickydicky 3 года назад
I heard that lol
@martyrothman3933
@martyrothman3933 2 года назад
I know you went over but remember you have to spend $50 to get free shipping hahaha
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 2 года назад
Ha! That makes it worth it. :-)
@robertbaker8164
@robertbaker8164 3 года назад
spending 50 like a dope pusher giving u free dope next thing u are hook
@kalikasurf
@kalikasurf 3 года назад
Don’t go fly on your own supply?? Ha ha
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
That's right! If we can get the kids while they're young, they'll end up fly tying junkies like the rest of us. :-)
@robertbrander2074
@robertbrander2074 Год назад
And then there was Inflation .... :( .... How much did that wall of furs cost you ?
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies Год назад
Most all the furs on that pegboard behind me was roadkill so it didn't cost anything. :-)
@robertbrander2074
@robertbrander2074 Год назад
@@SavageFlies That's Excellent ! I love a fellow scavenger ! ... I found two sheep skins in the trash once ... But skinning birds and squirrels is nasty business , and if the neighbors see you pickin up road kill , they will start to Worry .... :D ... It's funny fly tiers always use exotic wild animal stuff rather than domestic animal stuff like , dogs , cows , sheep , turkeys and chickens ? ... I'm Curious to where all these Pheasant Necks , Peacock hurl , Elk hair and Rabbit faces come from ? ... It must be a Thriving Business and getting all these suppliers of Roster tails or Fox bellies together to send ... to the thousands of Fly Tying stores ?
@Francois_Dupont
@Francois_Dupont 2 года назад
lesson learned here. even with the most basic setup at 50$ you better just buy a 85pcs box of flies premade from china for 20$ and spend the rest and some snacks.
@GeorgeMurdoch-Fishing
@GeorgeMurdoch-Fishing 3 года назад
Don't buy any kits , as I found were all rubbish, you can get better quality buying everything separately
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
I mostly agree George, but some of the tool kits like the Umpqua Dreamstream tools are pretty good. But also, you don't really save any money buying those tools in a kit than you would buying them individually.
@frankmonroe8320
@frankmonroe8320 3 года назад
I'd like to reccomend checking out flea markets and yard sales. I've found some great stuff that some poor tyer left behind and his family was trying to find a home for. Cheap!
@SavageFlies
@SavageFlies 3 года назад
Oh yes Frank, I would love to find a box of tying materials at a yard sale. Just hasn't happened to me yet. Have a great weekend my friend. :-)
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