The so-called snake/ alligator leather boots are just top grain leather ( topmost layer removed...top grain is a misnomer) with designs carved in...it's almost impossible to use alligator skin to fold, let alone make uppers for boots..there must be few genuine ones out there priced way beyond cow hide boots.
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The worst part of leathercrafting; Most content uses fantasy units for everything, 43 by 20 barleycorns of 31/64th oz.... what the fuck is an oz? then sew with a number whatever with guage of what..... Comeon guys, the world is metric, thickness, dimensions of everything, The glorious millimeter welcomes you.
Cool, so instead of learning and using a SUPER SIMPLE system that works for leather you want to make everybody's lives a hell being pretentious, re-measuring and pricing everything by 400 micrometers....neat....not exactly a narcissistic "glorious millimeter" when leather measures smaller than that Oz is 1/64th a inch, or .4MM, most leather come in sizes ranging from 2-16 oz from what I can find, .8-6.4mm, a simple 15 number classification, perfect for eyeball crafting, which is all you need, I work in micro electronics where the difference of .1mm matters, I know the conversions of metric and imperial MM off the top of my head because of international customers, leatherworking doesn't care about .1mm, it MIGHT care about .4mm, but not by much, I can't imagine leatherworking to split hairs over if a piece is .8, .10, or .12mm thick, considering most leather websites I've been looking at measures 2-3oz or 6-7 oz, and has a metric conversion in the sales details....the convenience is there As for gauge, wire gauge, as in wire measurement, you couldnt make metal thin/constant enough, so youd pass it through progressively smaller holes while it's hot without breaking it to shape it, 1 pass, 1 hole, 1 gauge, 2 passes, 2 holes, 2nd notch on the gauge, believe it or not, systems existed trying to standardize things BEFORE metric came around, and for their time and the tech they had, used smart methods, the British still uses a non-metric gauge system as well! Let alone stones and pounds, ounces for babies....height can be measured in feet, the imperial system was standard till only the 60's! Let's also not forget the 59 hz TV refresh rates.... Gauged thread just stuck because we had a standard for wires already, let's just use those plates for thread as well, convenience! This is what most of the world uses for fabric thread afaik So yeah, not that hard to convert x/64 to MM, just multiply the first number by .4, it's stupid easy.....
@@Reinreith Just because you are able to convert doesnt make it logical. A weight unit for a thickness ? A weight that scale with arbitrary numbers ? People in the logical world outside the us can also eyeball 1mm or 5mm... Just a matter of habits. But at least we can multiply and divide, scale, and measure. If i need to build 10 wallet of 15 cm i can order 150cm of leather. Onsted of multiplying 1/64 of inches by 17 cheesburgers and a half gorilla
@@benjaminbouaoune4466the US uses metric quite a bit. the military has used metric for a long time due to NATO interoperability. customary units tend to be used in legacy industries with less precision, for example rough lumber in measured in board feet (which is actually a unit of volume), but plywood is usually metric, for example a cabinet box would be built from 18mm plywood
If you get some free time, you should do an AMA. I think a lot of us beginners in the community would really appreciate it. Use it as an opportunity to teach, promote your brand and partnerships.
What is it with you leather workers? You're all so chill and easy to listen to. Your explanation of chrome vs veg tanned leather instantly explained why my Johnston & Murphys look so different from my Florsheims. Subbed.
43 years as a carpenter, build, cabinet maker, 43 minutes has an old guy trying to figure out how to work with leather. Just had to comment on the analogy MDF is an amazing product and I'm pretty sure that's not what you're trying to say. FYI.
Hello Can you make a video about these different leather and what there are used for? Shoulders Tooling sides Skirting leather Bellies Panels Kipskin That would be very help. 😊
Thank you for the tips! I’m working with faux leather for starters to make sure I can do the project for the most part before putting money towards real leather and I’m looking into starting my own side business.
You are incredible talented and you have great content too. I do have a question tho, are you looking into experimenting, maybe work, with more sustainable options? perhaps vegetable leather, pineapple and apple leather seem to be having great advances . I own a slow fashion boutique that focus in offering consumers a more sustainable option of clothing, and I am looking into working with leather because is such a beautiful material, however I am hopping to work with a more sustainable options than normal leather and I was wondering if you would have any experience with it and if so, what are your thoughts. Thank you in advance.
Leather is highly sustainable and really an example of when reused/repaired (when practiced) of slow fashion. Allbirds makes their shoes from a variety of ecologically friendly materials, but they still have to be processed as much as leather does.
Hello bro m inspire by you i just starting my won leather craft bussiness its not big but i dont have any training at all when i seen this video really bro m super excited thank you bro.. much love from nepal🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵
Subscribed earlier, but after this one, clicked the bell as well. Great content and you’re a great teacher. Can you recommend some leather supplier from Europe?
I've been trying leathercraft for about a year and this is the first video that actually explained these things for me! Thank you!!! 😁 Also, have you done a tutorial on skiving or thinning leather with different blades? I'm really struggling with that. Cheers!
Hi there, This video was little bit helpful for me . But I appreciate the efforts and intent behind the video. I wish if you could have demonstrated the thickness along with the information. :) Thanks
What about the backside...? I'm a beginner and have been agonizing for weeks over what I want to order for my first hide. I've collected the samples for colors, but I can't seem to find a reference for what goes on with the BACKS of the hide. When I get it split to 3 - 4 oz, what will it look like? I assumed I needed to get the "refinished flesh" option (looking at Wickett & Craig) to make sure it's smooth and not flaking apart, but now I hear that has a tie dyed look to it. So what is it that everyone's using?! "Pasted flesh"? "Stake to Soften"?
My grandmother had an old Singer pedal sewing machine. That thing would go through 12 thickness leather like butter. If anyone was ever wondering what “piss poor” meant. Leather places use to use urine for leather and the poor would piss into a pot to take it to them to sell. Other saying, “they don’t even have a pot to piss in”, they were so poor they did not even have a pot.
I think you meant to say where these phrases 'came from' not what they 'mean'. Etymology is the origin of a word or phrase. Definition informs you what the word means and usually includes synonyms-words with similar meaning. Feces was also sometimes used in leather tanning, in particular, dog feces because of the high acid content.
I like your videos, and the presentation, but if you are talking about thickness, we beginners need millimetres not weight. I don't have a clue what 3 4 0r 5 ounce is. perhaps things are different in the UK. Otherwise, no complaints.
Dude, I’ve been watching your videos since you started making them. I’m a self-employed woodworker, but I’ve always dabbled with leatherworking and greatly enjoy the skills and materials that cross over both crafts. And it was so easy to get started because I already had many of the tools required… Because they are used so much in woodworking.I also greatly enjoy making my own knives, pricking irons, and other cutting tools… Which is helpful in saving money and it’s also a load of fun! I guess those years of machinist courses and knife making paid off for something useful! It’s been a long time coming to get a real professional leather crafting channel on RU-vid… Who is so consistent when showing the process and materials accurately. Your video qualities are outstanding… And I greatly enjoy them! I could get lost in leatherworking and completely forget my woodworking responsibilities! That’s how much fun this is! Keep it up. It’s awesome!!!
I am starting with buying leather scraps. I am finding that a lot of the scraps are beautiful but I have noticed some have fur or hair on one side. Kinde of like the inside of gloves. I am trying to start with keychains, wallets and so on. I have also heard that chrome tanned leather is bad for knife sheaths. They said because the chrome in the tanning will corrode the knife.
How you plan on finishing your edges should also be a factor when choosing the type of leather. I used all veg tanned (when first starting) so I could burnish the edges. Now that I have the tools and edge paints, I'm able to use more chrome tanned. Just a extra tid bit for anyone looking at purchasing leather.
Great informative video. Could you go into more detail on thicknesses. I raise cattle and my butcher told me hide aren't worth anything, 10-12 years ago they were worth $100 each. I found an Amish gentleman that tans hides and he asked me what I wanted to do with it I told him tool pouch and he spit accordingly but gave me little info/feed back. I got one steer hide done for $200 now I have to actually do something with it. Your channel and a few others have given me some direction. This sounds like a bit of a ramble but I hope you get the point. Thanks for your work
Can you go way more in depth with the chrome tan leathers like the different types like oil tanned and so on, as well as the difference between different animals leather and what's the difference between like skirting leather and saddle leather and so on? Thank you
I just bought 4 sides, 2 in 3-4oz and 2 on 5-6. Going to use the thicker stuff for the shell of my wallets and the thinner for the pockets. We shall see lol😅
But. MDF makes some customers happy because they don't want to see wood grain thru the lacquer. And a veneer faced mdf core plywood produces the flatest finish. No factory ripples or defects. 😏
Me too... I'm on this project of leaning Leather craft, But he mentioned you can get more information from the website that sponsored this channel, I'm about to search that website. Good luck on your learnings 😊
Great video for beginners! It's really hard to find all this info in 1 place and can discourage some people. When I started, I stuggeled with this quite a bit and made many projects in the wrong weights and tanages. Great video, keep it up!
vegan leather is, from what I believe, either a composite plant based leather. Vege tan is a type of tanning done to leather (it is tanned using natural mediums like bark etc). So vegetable tan leather is not a leather (e.g., full grain or top grain) but how the leather is tanned; while vegan leather is plant based leather (material used for leather). Does this make sense.
this is something i desperately want to get into - i cannot stop watching - and i feel like making pieces would be immensely satisfying i can't help but wonder, surely "vegan" leather would be a great place to start - surely it's much cheaper and means any mistakes made wouldn't be too costly, and i mean to use it purely to practice 🤷🏻♂️
Nicely explained … but it will be useful if u specify units considered globally accepted standards like millimetres etc..anyway I love ur videos …love from India 🇮🇳
The best place to go get leather is out is to go to a tax store that makes their own Goods that is going out of business I bought $5 worth of leather at the store and it's probably worth all about $90
Thanks so much for this videos. I just got the idea of making my own purses and learn more about leather craft and taraaa!! Here you are 🖤 Thanks for sharing
What do you do to keep the leather in good condition until it's used? Like if it's a type you don't use often and it's been sitting there for a long time.
Good to see you back. This was a GREAT video for me right now. I just got a butt load of leather working tools and now its on to leather choice, so THANKS! Always enjoy your content.
I need to make something to go on the bottom of my planer to protect the blades. Im a contractor amd want to be able to just set it on a shelf in my van and not have to worry about it banging around. You have a suggestion on a type of leather I should use that would be durable?
Hi, great video! Do you get the same edge finish with chrome tan leather as veg tan leather? It's difficult to get the same smooth glossy finish as veg tan when working with chrome tan leather
Man you should really buy a ton of extra stock of the leather you use in your videos and sell it cause Ive spent 10hrs in the last 2 weeks going through 6-7 different major suppliers sites and cant find a single picture on their sites that look like the veg tan you used on your note book cover.
Amazing! This could not have come at a better time, I'm going to a tannery tomorrow to pick up some nicer leather than the Tandy veg than I got for my first piece 😂
TY, starting out and the info was direct and to the point. I was at a retail store today and looking at leather..do retailers mark use a common code so i don’t have to constantly ask about what cut and what was used to tan it?
First your videos inspired me to wanting to start in leathercraft, and right after you make these two videos on how to get started, you read my mind. You're the best, thank you so much. Will be setting up my workspace today. :)
Thank you so much! I am so happy to have found you! I am also in Canada and have been looking for leather suppliers that I could buy smaller pieces from to practice as I am new. I thought my only choice was Tandy or Micheals. Looking forward to trying my hand at this for a hobby. Putting my first order in at DLS. Thank you again. 💕🇨🇦💕
I've been looking into leather working for a while. This has been the most educational and cleared up some of the most aggravating problems. Thanks a lot.
Ryan, love the videos. How about a video on threads', seems like this is something I find myself struggling with. I use #92, and after I put something together I feel that maybe sometimes I should've went with a bigger size thread. Keep up the great work.
Hi (thanks a lot for all your videos; I've been learning a lot from you and your work). Now I'm beggining to buy the leather for my first items (you would love the leather market "La Luz" in León -mexican city in the state of Guanajuato-, our leather capital), and I was exclusively looking for veg tan since I had read that chrome tanned leather does not age well, diminishes the quality of the product, and requieres a far more polluting tanning process (and also it has no memory, so it can't be stamped by punch nor shaped). This is the first time I heard a leathercrafter directly saying that chrome leather is also a good option for leather handmade goods, so I will have to reconsider and research more about this. Thanks, master.
Hey I'm new to the channel!!! I actually didnt know you were on Peter McKinnon's video until I found your channel, and as soon as I saw your thumbnail, I was like, "man this guy is awesome". Also congratulations hope you make to the 1m milestone.
I must say this was the most helpful video on leather types I watched so far. I decided to learn leather craft thanks to your beautiful work and videos. Thanks for all the info you share!
Great vid. Could you please explain what you mean by thicknesses in ounces (3-4) or (6-7)? are you referring to weight per sq ft? I'm making the connection between a weight or volume scale used to grade a linear thickness in inches or mm?
I want to get into making motorcycle saddlebags and trunks what size would you recommend for that? I was thinking on using 6 to 7 Veg tan, do you think this would be a good combo?
hmmm a very good Suggestion on how to get Started in Leather Creativity... it sounds great, but i must but some of tools that need to carried out the First project... i will look for it in the future.. hope it will run Great...thanks Brother ....Much Appreciate for what you had done here with those two videos... now i will subscribe Your Channel Now... thanks Dude
Thank you for your videos! I've learned a lot watching your channel and now it's piqued my interest to try a new hobby. I got my first set this week and now to find some leather to start practicing. Your work is amazing and if I can get to even have my stuff look 1/2 as good as yours I'll be happy!
I came to your channel after seeing your video with Peter Mckinnon and I've been hooked since. Binge watched almost every video on your channel. I got so excited I bought a basic tool kit and some leather. I can't wait to try it myself. Such a great channel, keep it up! love the content and quality! The audio is just perfect! THX!
