@@chelseavue7256 I mean what the fuck does Fantano know that you as a musician don't though? I guess if you're the band's bassist then he could help you.
Word of advice to everyone shilling their Sound Cloud shit: don't say your age. No one is going to check out your shit when they hear you are 13 years old.
"Oh, but I followed all the steps and I'm still not famous" Tip number 0: Prepare yourself Be a good musician, learn how to sing, learn how to compose. We're tired of bad musicians.
Even one genuine comment or interaction on your art should be valued. You made it to express yourself and someone connected with it, why does it have to be ten thousand if it connected with one person be happy that you touched them.
Everyone wants to be famous. Everyone wants to be a rockstar. What makes you different? Why are you so special? Are you as good as you think you are? Are the people around you just telling you what you'd like to hear about your music? Stop making music to be famous and start making it for yourself.
Tom Willman I don't ever want the the fame I'd like to connect with people but have my own personal space too. I make music because I genuinely enjoy creating and expressing my feelings in a structure that others can interpret and enjoy! I'd be happy just being an average guy with music people enjoy to jam in the car on a summer day
Tom Willman also remember.. the small guy you are.. remember nobody gives a fuck bout you. Nobody cares about you or what you have to say and they wont listen to your music when you shove it in their face. Be creative and remember - nobody cares about you
I mean this is true, you should always be making music because its what you want to do but some people also WANT to have third !music heard by somebody else every once in a while. I totally get that people don't give a fuck about you - most successful artist even know that- but that doesn't mean someone doesn't want to hear something different and that should be reason enough to want to put music out like guys its not always about you. be committed to the music is what I'm saying, but also remember no one owes you anything.
Bottom line. You can do anything you put your mind to. Be aware of this industry the good and the bad and tackle it full force. I'm not a famous musician. I'm not the best songwriter. But. I back what I do with my heart and everything means something to me. I will do whatever it takes and push myself until it happens. I'd say that "trying" is the real threshold that people are afraid to cross. Growing up people will tell you, "oh you can't be a musician, that's impossible!" Or something along those lines, but really, how many people right there does that stop ? If you ask me id say a good 75%. Do more then dream Utilize every minute of your day tward Something to do with your dreams and ambitions. Otherwise you fall behind that 75% I've noticed in many interviews with bands all having a similar story. None were every struck by lightning and learned to play guitar like jimmy page. The all just tried, and tried, and tried, because they knew they could do it. Which really shows that you have to believe in yourself before you ask other people to believe in you. That's just my two cents on the matter though. Great video.
I've been producing dance music since I was 14, haven't been able to "push through" because I had no fundings whatsoever. But now that I have a job I'm determined to make it. I know everyone on here is determined as well, best of luck to everyone!
This guy is extremely realistic it's awesome!!! At least he's not one of those people that say it's easy all you have to do is this but no he knows exactly what's up in order to have a chance
No. Don't do that to your pretty face! You are too important...and me opinion: Dude...whats next? Nipple piercing? Just don't...plz....be your natural you! ;3
I think this is the most difficult part of musical success- getting your music out there. Nowadays, making great songs is just not enough, you have to market yourself as a brand. You have to have a large fan base and you have to keep pushing forward, no matter how difficult times get. I'm not giving up. The 24/7 grind continues!
Man, I just want to tell you that I really appreciate what you're doing. I'm overwhelmed by how much you love music. Thank you so much for going out of your way to make a video that's relevant to the people that are making music too. You gave some great advice, and I just wanted to say thanks. I love your videos.
I love how thorough you are in everything you do! These are all great tips and there's no way anyone could ever cover EVERYTHING an artist can or should do to get their music out there.
ACKRITE The truth is its all work ethic if you work hard enough the people come to you if you make enough music the quality comes out of the quantity keep moving forward and you will slowly but surely create a following simply by pushing yourself to do better :)
wow, this video is more than 4 years old, i just found it and to me, this topic is more important and current than ever before... thank you Adviceony Welltano for helping upcoming artists with your music-nerdiness... although youre so busy!
Only problem I remember back then was people would use friend adders and play bots to make it seem like they were popular. So it made smaller artists seem like less of a big deal. Wait, that shit still happens 😢
Your advice is highly invaluable. What bums me out personally is the fact that music is SO competitive! More though, is the fact that I must attend to an actual job which means that I have little time for music. It's so frustrating! But this video was of great help. I'm actually looking to buy myself a new microphone so I'm determined to dedicate myself!
Hey what's happening Fred? I've always liked theneedledrop album reviews. You can learn a lot about other artists. I think it would be awesome if he did some reviews on independent artists like myself. Perhaps one day he will review one of my CD projects on his channel. Feel free to check out my stuff and drop me a line if you'd like. If you want to share sub for sub feel free to mention me to your subscribers and I will do the same for you. Thanks. BARBOZAmusic Johnny
This video has given me the boost I needed to keep trying!I will keep working on my music to get more notice and create more songs everyone likes. Wish me luck :)
The bit you said about already having a lot of music produced for new listeners to explore as soon as they discover you is a very good point that I never thought of. That'll be helpful
One thing you forgot to mention is to BEFRIEND FELLOW MUSICIANS! That's a great way of how to get new fans to come to your shows and listen to your music. It's very important to support your local scene and make fwends.
You definitely summed this up perfectly! As someone who is making the big step into finally putting out music, this puts a lot of perspective on things. Knowing I am constantly in competition with other artists and musicians opens my eyes into how much effort, work, and hustle I need to put into this music. Great video!!
Depends on how much contend you produce. Much content= Many releases (More than 2 Songs a week maybe) (Or bundle them too an album) Less Content= Less releases (1 Song a week or less)(Takes a long time too make an Album) Try too find your own scale. And dont set yourself any dates. Only when your done.
Dropping songs individually is a pretty different take all together. The common trend I see is an album every 2 year with maybe an EP or a split released somewhere in the middle 16 months between two LPs. But it's really up to the individual. Some bands release an album every year and release EPs and splits on top of that, some bands go 5, 6, 7, years without releasing any new music.
John King I think I'll personally keep on dropping individual tracks since I don't have much of a fanbase. If I just dropped an album every two years or so, it probably wouldn't get much attention. Then I'd just be like well shit, what now?
Of course, there more releases you have, the more likely you are to be noticed. But I'd say what matters most is keeping your creative momentum going. And in response to Jalbion, I get the "only when you're done," because you want to put out half-assed shit, but deadlines work very well for many people.
daniel ap 3-6 months between each release. If its an EP, Id lean toward 3...gotta keep the momentum from each project going. If youre not releasing music, you should be doing shows. He actually mentions a similar approach at about 6min in the video.
of course there's more musicians/ producers/ composers then there ever has been but we shouldn't let that scare us. you have the power to create your own field, your own context, your own vision. just be real.
My personal response to your points in this video (They are all silly): 1. Even If there was only a bare minimum of music listening options, most of the problems amateur musicians have would still be present. They existed before the internet existed. It doesn't matter how much content you have or how much you promote your work. All that matters is how people react to your music. You can have 20 albums at hand but they are all meaningless if no one knows about them 2. If you’re trying to make it, any music you send to bloggers goes straight to the junk folder or will be ignored without second thought because you haven’t already made it. Very similar to how you won’t get a job because you don’t have a job already. This is Meaningless and deceiving advice. PR firms are the only way to go. 3. Since most music makers have slim to no marketing or promo skills, any independent music promotion campaigns are set up for failure from the start because there are skills we do not possess. Never do what others can do for you. Let the PR firms do the work for you. 4. Most people have fake standards for music or very minimum standards for Music. So for you to say that we have to make Music that people want to hear or are interested in hearing is very aggressive, cold-blooded statement as it is flatout untrue. 5. In relation to reaching out via Social Media. Um, not everyone uses Social Media sites let alone significant people who can get your Music out there. 6. The worst attitude you can have in the music business is thinking that you’re competing with anybody. 7. The very purpose of a music career or rockstar career is out of ego and self-interest. Meaningless point.
Simply posting on youtube or any other site doesn't really qualify as promoting, because no matter how good my music might be, literally no one's viewing it. maybe I should just start pushing it on comment threads. so yea, check out my music on facebook.com/kcgov I do R&B/rap, and make the music the music myself. :)
One thing I'm going to do when first starting out is when I'm releasing singles on RU-vid and putting the entire project up to download elsewhere, I'm going to put my artistic influences across multiple genres in the tags. That way when people look up one of them they may just find me and even then they may even just click, listen and become a fan.
Thank you Anthony, I liked and subbed you, For other music creators... Don't be afraid of checking out other channels (like mine) and if you like a song click the like button! if you have a comment leave one! It won't cost you a cent and we all enjoy being appreciated.I for one like to return to fans and comment back!. Google+ will "ring your bell" when some one leaves a comment so we can know who are fans are! . .
"If you had a button that brought you pleasure...you could push any time, would you push it now?" said Steven Tyler. Joe Perry said "I'd push yours!". Ring my bell...I might ring yours!
Anthony has a lot of good points here. imho, the most important is having your music on ALL THE PLATFORMS. personally, I'm not looking to make a monetary profit, as I'm not popular and the number of people I reach is basically my profit. and look into netlabels too, they're ran by great people and are generally very open minded. good luck :)
In the games industry there's a belief that as long as you put it on some kind of platform you will get at least some kind of following. Anthony's 4th point relates to that really well, as long as you make something that you think is good, out of the millions of people on the internet who like good things, some of them will stumble on yours and enjoy it. So just make as much good music as you can.
Thanks for the tips dude, I've been working on promoting my first single and its definitely harder than I realized it would be (fuc) but its been a slow and steady progression. Anyway, thanks for making this vid, and keep it up I love your music reviews.
I find your words to be the most helpful in the abyss of advice on this subject matter. I used to get thousands of hits on my music when Myspace ruled the web, then I got WAY better 7 years down the road and can't get a click for the life of me. It's painstaking enough just putting your all into your product. Promotion is a bitch. P.R. is the way to go.
Don't forget that you need to make sure you understand what your personality is, and show it to others through interviews, youtube videos, and connecting with other bands. It's why Mac DeMarco blew up so quickly when he went solo.
Thank you Anthony. I've been trying to get my music off the ground, and while it's been getting attention slowly I can assure you this video will help me. The most important thing you said was that EVERYONE is trying to get a slice of the pie that is publishing music on the internet, and thus spreading music onto multiple platforms and sites is crucial. Anyway, sorry for rambling. Thank you for the video!
i came to his page for just one thing a danny brown review but got stuck in some real grate info on music and making music and even promotion u have just made a hardcore fan and i will be spreding the word keep i up man
Hi ^_^ my name is Christine i'm a singer-songwriter i'm a self taught musician and just a music love in general. always be your number one fan! don't give up. I've come across so many people because of music and made some good friendships because of it. i find the best way of people finding you is by going to open mics a lot (hope this helps someone)
With all the bullshit out there that claim to know the best way to get ahead in this industry, this has got to be the most sensible and encouraging thing I've come across. Thank you.
Some good albeit fairly obvious advice that even a beginner should know. I would add that it's extremely important to play out in public as much as possible at festivals, open mics, art museums, house party's, coffee shops, the street, special events, just about any opportunity that exists, Reason being as that there is no other thing that will improve your craft faster. You will gain invaluable feedback from your audience that will then inspire your music and you will meet other artists.
The thing that's awesome for Canadian artists of all shapes and sizes is that the gov't gives out something like 32 million dollars a year in grants and loans that you can apply for, there are all sorts of applications you can submit for some money. I'm really thankful for it and it's a shame that America does have such a support system for their artists.
1. Make the music you want to hear, and the type of music you enjoy. 2. The industry is saturated with artists so many products end up on the shelf. So keep pushing, 3. Treat your new fans like gold, I would borrow from the Grateful Dead business model and let your fans share concert recordings, music recordings for example. 4. Do some free shows or benefit concerts for example. 5. enjoy yourself, and if you make er awesome, if not, you still win because you are doing what you enjoy. pretty much what he said :)
I think another factor to take into account (and I guess this falls under "understand your surroundings") is knowing what audience you should be trying to appeal to. For example, I'm not gonna ask Pitchfork to promote me if I'm in a pop-punk band or hang up promotional posters & give away business cards outside a Metallica concert if I'm a house music producer. Those are kinda exaggerated examples but I think you get the point I'm trying to make.
develop under the surface and when you feel you have interesting music that needs to be heard for whatever reason. Build hype through your first release, music is over saturated and instant gratification is a must for most of the post modern generation.
Hey y’all it’s Darealfatman Here anybody still come across this video I wish you the best of luck on your journey, it will be Lengthy and Hard Fought But never give up . A Very Wise man looked up to World wide once said “Never Give Up, Because the moment you give up You jus let somebody else Win 🥇 , The only thing that separates the winner and The loser, is that the loser Gave up🧎🏾♂️” that being said IF! you are talented at something and know what your calling is NEVER EVER give up , You gotta work so Hard That they can longer ignore you. - Darealfatman
