Gettysburg Wargame at Lee’s Headquarters 

Stevefe Little Wars TV did Antietam a while back but I agree it would be interesting to see them do it in more of this format. *Game Spoilers* Their Antietam game ended in a complete rout for the rebels where there army was almost entirely destroyed.

Shiloh would be a good one too

Do you mean SHARPSBURG?.

Hyperkid7 the south would of won if some southern scout did not take a pee and drop lees battle feild plans

Luke Derkovitz the union wasnt too weak on any area of their line, and lee still would have likely charged the middle

Me to but i’m dutch

Thanks Baz, I'm an American who is fascinated by British war history. Please to meet you.

Michael 732. Up the RED COATS and down the colonials! Went to Boston many years ago which was fascinating and then went down to D.C. I didn’t realize how close Gettysburg was and didn’t go. Definitely on my bucket list.

@@bazd884 DC is just a walk down the road. A 3 day march.

May I know why?

Heh. This. I didn't know a thing about the U.S Civil War a few years back. Then I attended a UK re-enactment, wound up photographing US Civil War reenactors over a year (it's a thing in Britain too!) and next thing I know I'm flying over to spend a weekend in Gettysburg and walking Cemetery Hill. I wound up just completely hooked. And now phrases like, "Sir... I have no division," make my British stiff upper lip wobble. x

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@@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures Great wargamers you Brits. ;-)

@@billd.iniowa2263 Yeah, you may or may not know... we (the British) really like war, or used to from about 400 AD to 1950 AD, I would say. I guess others like war more, though... Rome has to take the cake, no? 500 BC to 1945 AD... or, Greece, I guess... 800 BC to 2020 AD (half joking, of course). Shocking to many, the French have started more wars than any other nation in total looking at the data, and America has not started many, stopped many, and has not invaded many other nations (though they are far away and, in theory, have only existed for around 300 years, but still, that's impressive given how powerful they are). Of course, Americans have been heavily into war since 1941, though it kind of stopped by 1980 other than a few things in the Middle East. But, I digress.

“If practicable.” Those two words.... And, yes, Hood to the right....

cristopher wong I know that

WW1 battles would be a little like this Option A: rush for the next trench Option B: wait the enemy for a rush Repeat by 75 Congratulations! You've won half a mile! Only 360 more to reach Berlin!

Mr. Money that would work but I was thinking more of the major battles like Verdun or the Somme or the Russian civil war

I feel there should be a boardgame of this.

Mr. Money and you lost 50,000 men

Too bad Civil War abandoned the system where you completely control what you do on the battle & instead have to follow scripted events, but it's still a good game

@@papovka agreed

@@papovka I agree

Can I also recommend 'Scourge of War: Gettysburg' which you can play in 1st person on 3D terrain and in which you have to rely on the reports brought to you by either your AI or human officers in ordering your units? Played a multiplayer game where as a newbie I was asked to hold the northern end where no significant action was expected, and where the Rebs attacked in full force. A three hour battle in which I was sweating bullets, begging for reinforcements from my three human allies, and now-and-again intercepting equally desperate demands from captured couriers between the human confederate officers opposing me. Old but brilliant game.

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I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the game called Johnny reb, this game is called altar of freedom

Comander Bacara no the game i had was called ‘Gettysburg’. Don’t recall a Johnny Reb game. They also made one called ‘Chancellorsville’ if I remember right

Lee thought he needed a decisive offensive battle on northern soil to end the war!

@@stevep5408 -Well that decisive battle on northern soil did effectively mark the end for the south .The combined July 4 1863 defeats at Gettysburg and Vicksburg cost the south international recognition by Great Britain and France.

Yeah, I think it's clear that Lee's strategy should have been to get the Union to attack his entrenched troops rather than attacking the Union entrenched positions.

@@martynspeck No, Lee's army was outgunned and out supplied. How could he entice the union into attacking? The union would just sit there and bombard him. If he were to retreat, the union would be able to attack him easily, as they were not far apart, or, at the very least, they would send dragoons to harass them.

@@j.franklin21 -The Anaconda plan suggested by General Winfield Scott had largely isolated the south economically.While it is true that the federalists enjoyed a tremendous logistical advantage the popular pressure for swift and decisive actions often forced their hand.

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Michael Hill I meant in the game

@@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 Ah! Ok. Sorry, thought you meant historically

@@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 Still think they were talking casualties not fatalities at the end though

Michael Hill fair enough

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The Union had 13 gun models on the table which represent 156-364 guns. So they're out there.

YOU AINT GOT NO BALLS WITHOUT STONEWALL

We need both Stonewalls. An actual stone wall, as any real total war player knows, and Thomas Jackson.

Ooh, hope you enjoyed. I went a few weeks after you. I found it incredible. Stayed at the Farnsworth. :)

@@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures it was incredible! We stayed at a bnb. It took me and my family about three hours to get through the museum. The cyclorama was also amazing.

You'd be forced to ignore the fact that Lee didn't know what he was facing. His cavalry were not doing their jobs. There's really no reason to think that Lee would have been any more aware of the Union deployment than he was historically. Also, there wouldn't be any reason for the Union to attack defensive positions east of Cashtown. They weren't hurting for supplies or needing to do anything but stay between Lee and Washington. Lee was under supply pressure, was losing the war in the west and couldn't risk being out maneuvered because he needed to be able to get back to Virginia eventually. Really, the Union held a fairly substantial tactical advantage during that campaign.

What did u play on

Why on earth would the Union army attack Longstreet on the hills away from town when all the had to do was maneuver around them? You played against a poor general.

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I would guess that this was an edited video where a lot was left out due to length. My guess would be that they just didn't happen to include mentions of the Union Artillery. It would have been included in the game each time there was a fight but only the most dramatic parts of the game - such as the deaths of Generals - made it into the video. .

@Bob Smith -- Yep, that seems plausible.

That's an interesting point. However, what would have happened had a mostly intact Army of the Potomac been allowed to dig in around Washington, combining with the garrison and the strong works and placing Meade smack in the middle of his supply/reinforcement bases? Seems to me Lee would have arrived outside of the city and staring straight at a much tougher nut to crack than he found at Gettysburg. It's my understanding that Lee understood he must engage and destroy the Army of the Potomac first, or any movement toward Washington would be very dangerous. Lee certainly couldn't leave Meade free to maneuver and cut him off from Virginia. Gettysburg was of no consequence itself, it just happened to be the place where the armies met. And as such, I think most would agree that had Meade decided to press it there, he would have retired to a place closer to Washington, but not at it. I believe Meade had already chosen a place to make a stand, near Taneytown, Md. somewhere, on a ridge overlooking a creek.

The Confederate's strategic objective was not Washington D.C. It was to achieve enough of a success to remove pressure from the Confederate defenders at Vicksburg. After Vicksburg was placed under siege (before Lee's campaign got under way), lifting the siege became the objective. This was hashed out in Richmond in mid- May after the battle of Chancellorsville between the senior Confederate political leadership and Lee. The central item on the agenda was what to do to 'assist' Vicksburg- what Davis called "the nail that holds the two halves of the Confederacy together"- and not offset its loss. Lee declined to execute Longstreet's idea because three factors forced Lee to attack after 1 July. The first factor was that Lee's plan of campaign was to entice the AotP to attack the AoNV and defeat it (made clear in his after- action report and in Longstreet's memoirs). This required that the AotP assume the tactical initiative. The minor victory in the meeting engagement of 1 July ruined Lee's plan of campaign by casting the tactical initiative onto the AoNV. The second factor was that Lee's army was foraging off of enemy territory and couldn't remain in any one area for more than 3-5 days (this factor alone precluded any idea of taking Washington D.C.). The AoNV hadn't foraged since Lee's concentration order of 29 June, and foraging parties could not carry out such duty in proximity to enemy forces. By 3 July, Lee lacked the time to carry out Longstreet's envelopment idea and wait for a Union attack which was highly unlikely anyway. The last factor was that the clock was ticking at Vicksburg (Lee was approximately 1,100 miles away and had no clear idea how bad a condition that the defenders there were in). By 3 July, Lee had to either attack or abandon the campaign in failure. Since he had been victorious on 1 July and had almost been successful on 2 July, he attempted to execute Napoleon's concept of the "strategic battle"- the very thing which Meade foresaw. Cheers...

That's what obi-wan kenobi would say.