I was literally in a game a about a week back some guy putting bushes all over his t34 but had fire crackers coming off his turret🤣 do you want to be spotted or not
We need more funky interwar stuff like this. Most of the flavour of this game is found in downtier, but yet it's not capitalized on enough - Play a vehicle for a few games until all components are researched, and then move on because you can't get RP for higher tier vehicles or complete daily challenges.
It would be a quite big problem for new players, then the grind to high tier tanks would be even harder (ok you can research the low tier stuff quite easy, but still, the more there is, the harder it will get). They should create something like negative BR ratings and with that giving you the option to research into older or newer tanks
@@Em.P14 except there is already easy fixes to not increase the grind, namely reserve vehicules gor the very useless stuff, and for the tech trees that get crowded they put simir vehicles together in a shelf so you only have to research the first one and you can come back later to research the others.
I just play the lower tiers because that's where the game is enjoyable. The higher up you go the worse it tends to get. Sure, there's a lot of fun stuff up in high tier but it's also much more automated and easy to use. I started playing WT because I loved WW2 tanks and that's never changed. I just don't find my interest in the post war stuff all that much.
The Char 2C Bis shares the exact same hull specifications with the regular Char 2C, the new turret and 155mm gun are what distinguish it Only one tank was converted to this type, eventually converted back later on as it was deemed not needed However a 2nd variant was created by the Lorraine company by giving the 2C a new stronger engine and uprating the frontal armor to 90mm's And the side thicker as well but I dont remember that number.
Yes the char 2c "lorraint" was the heaviest and biggest tank in use. With 90 mm in the front and 65 mm in the Sides, even the early german tanks would have problems going threw it
The name of the up armoured tank is Lorraine, and only 1 was made, the one in the trailer is not it as that one has a very different engine deck, it looks flat and all the stuff on the roof is hidden under it
@@xenuko German tanks wouldn't be able to do sh*t. They already had to use artillery and Flak 88 against B1bis tanks because they had literally nothing else that could kill it excluding bomb.
This tank is absolutley rediculous AND I LOVE IT, the 12 crew members makes this thibg more survivable than a MBT when you take it to top teir, because good luck trying to kill everyone in one shot lmao.
Still hoping for you to come out with a Baby Tigor Bobblehead. I am going to attach it to the top of my truck. Just picture how awesome to see Baby Tigor rolling down the Highway!
The Char 2C had a 19L / 1,159 Cubic Inch V12 so I can't see this having smaller engines being 2x Sautter-Harlé engines 6-cyl 250hp/each. In a bit of Irony the first engines in 2C were German Maybach engines from Zeppelin's given to France as part of war reparation for WW1
The Char 2C produces 500 hp with 34 litres of displacement. To put that into context, a Kawasaki H2R produces 310 hp with 1 litre of displacement - if a H2R engine was 34 litres but scaled power linearly, it would make 10,540 hp.
The Char 2C in the trailer is not the up armored 90mm front one, that one has a different engine deck (since it has aditional protection from aircraft)
@@jameskarg3240 I think they should only add the up armored one since the normal one has the gun of the 75mm M3 half track, so balancing it would be hard
From what I found it's probably 25 liters, just guessing because similar engines were named after their displacement in tenths of liters, and this one is called 250. Also 25 liters to achieve 500 horsepower is reasonable for that time period. Edit: According to wikipedia the engine of the T-35 is 47 liters, so I'm guessing the Char 2C has 2 engines of 25 liters each, but it's just a guess.
@@grasynedwards There are diesel locomotives with 250 liter engines and this thing is about the size of a train (although it loads of space used up by tracks, crew, ammunition, etc). It's possible that they were 25 liter even though they only produced 250 horsepower, again going off of the T-35 comparison.
Maus is 188t and Jagtiger 2 was at 70.5t or 71.7t with Henshel transmission, so yeah Char 2C was one of the heaviest lanf ship produced Oh and fun fact the engine used were from german origins and came from Zeppelin if I remember correctly.
So from doing some research and math,The Char 2c had a Mayback Water Cooled Diesel engine,they were 23L engines with 250hp so in total the engine was a 46L 500hp engine (their was 2 of them combined) Now there was a variant with 2 Inline 6 Daimler/Mayback engines (Source: Tank Encyclopedia,Wiki,History Fandom)
The engines are likely modeled as the Sautter-Harlé diesel inline 6 engines, sadly I'm unsure of the exact displacement. These were installed on later tanks to replace the earlier Maybach V12 German engines. They made 250 horsepower each, and sent power through a hybrid drive system (yes, like the Porsche Tiger/Elefant) to the rear sprockets. The shapes on top of the engines you were looking at are the individual cylinder sleeves. A lot of old engines were built like this, rather than having the cylinders/heads encased in a full "block". Source: I wrote the Tank Encyclopedia article on the 2C. Happy to answer any other questions.
The engines were around 17L displacement each, so 34L total, and what's more interesting is the use of electric drive. So it works more like a diesel electric locomotive than a normal tank, with each engine running a generator while the electric motors actually produce the propulsion. Hence why it also has the same speed in reverse, since it's just running the motor backward instead of using a seperate gear chain.
Hilarious Phly, I laughed the whole time. Especially the end, when you mocked the noob bomber who probably was thinking you release directly above your target.
Had the US not intervened in ww1, the french had planned to push the german line in 1919 with 300 of those, alongside a large number of FT17 light tanks (they already had 3000 FT17 by 1918). At the time there wasn't any "tank company", the french had only started working on on the tank concept in 1914. So they had their automobile companies, and ship building companies, to design tanks. It is quite clear in the 2C design, with its turret placement. The idea was to build "land fleets", eachmade of a few 2C escorted by a swarm of FT17.
AFAIK those are indeed the pistons, not exhausts. I recall seeing some footage of like WW1 era tanks and how you crank the engines on, and the pistons are a sight to see by themselves
@@danielsteger8456 that's not what service means. 90% of army soldiers don't see actual combat during their careers. Does that mean they aren't soldiers ? No. Same with tanks. The 2c didn't saw combat because WW1 ended just before this behemoth was ready to get to the front. But the tank was absolutely capable of fighting.
Liter is the metrical unit for displacement, so for example the Packard Merlin V-1650 used in a P-51D has a displacement of 1,650 cui. Multiplied with "roughly" 16.387 equals 27,038.55 cubic centimeters, which divided by 1,000 equals 27.038 liter displacement. The DB601 from the Bf109 has 33.9 liters displacement, multiplied with 1,000 is 33,900 and then divided by 16.387 is about 2,068.71 cui rounded for 2 decimals. So you can see the reason why in the early stages of ww2 planes with the DB601 were superior and in the later stages, even though the DB601 and 605 had more displacement, the lack of high octane fuel made them inferior... And since you clicked "expand": the horsepower is not the important factor when it comes to moving big machines like tanks, boats or Saturn V rockets. What matters is the torque, which is a result of potential displacement of engines: a tank like the one in this video might have 2 straight-6 engines with 250hp each, but each engine might produce 500 Nm torque, while a F1 race car has a V12 engine with 800hp and 600 Nm torque. So the F1 car has more horsepower but less overall torque and torque is the decisive factor when trying to move those steel monsters. Last but not least: the Maybach HL230 has 23.095 liters or 1,409.3 cui displacement, producing 700hp at 3,000 rpm and 1,850 Nm or 1364.5 ft lbs of torque at 2,100 rpm. Guess what rpm range was favoured on HL230 powered tanks 😘
@@ronaldthompson4989 yes they many did propaganda films. And most of them where destroyed to prevent Germans to capture them. How ever this particular one is a test/prototype for this arrangement.
2C BIS IS FUCKIN INVINCIBLE!!! [Bridge] Red sun Red sun over paradise Red sun Red sun over paradise [Verse 1] Golden rays of the glorious sunshine Setting down, such a blood-red light Now the animals slowly retreat To the shadows - out of sight Arid breeze blows across the mountains Giving flight to the birds of prey In the distance machines come To transform Eden - day by day [Pre-Chorus] Only love is with us now Something warm and pure Find a peace within ourselves No need for a cure [Chorus] When the wind is slow And the fire’s hot The vulture waits to see what rots Oh how pretty All the scenery This is nature’s sacrifice When the air blows through With a brisk attack The reptile tail ripped from its back When the sun sets We will not forget the Red sun over paradise Red sun
Funny fact about the actual C2 Char Bis. France built them in anticipation to intercept any invading German force, kind of like a lumbering Maginot Line, and kept them for a "rainy day". The day Germany actually did start pulling some stuff, they started shipping their C2's out of the nation so they wouldn't be captured or destroyed. . . . . . because it wasn't raining that day. I'm kidding about the raining bit. But they seriously did not use these tanks even though they had them because they were afraid of losing that investment and in the end they lost that investment as they didn't make it out of France and were captured on route.
From what i could find online these tanks used a few different engines. The last ones were 2 16.9L mercedes maybach engines. They only made about 250hp each so it topped out at 15km/h. It is still too this day the biggest production tank by volume.
The Char 2C uses 3 types of engines. A pair of Chenu 210CV, captured Mercedes-Benz 200CV engines in 1923, then repowered a final time in the mid-30s with a pair of Maybach 250CV engines. The Chenu engines were extremely unreliable and broke often. The Maybach engines are used in game. The Char 2C used 2 of those Maybach 250CV engines, each having 16.95L of displacement, for a total of ~34L of displacement with both engines running. Both engines running together made a combined ~500bhp and had a top speed of 9.3mph/15kph.
Those 17 litre engines that they put in cars that you're talking about, were usually just aircraft engines slapped onto a frame with wheels and then they called it a car. Check out the fiat s76. Biggest 4 cyl ever made, 28 liters. And its not an aero engine. The wheels are driven by a chain, just like a motorcycle.
Hey phly, been watching for a couple years love your vids, the commentary of the opposing tank is hilarious!.. Vid idea: war thunder for beginners, explaining the basics, maybe even into depth on how to enjoy the game.. I'd like to start playing again but battle rating and playing style is were I'm struggling
Phly: "Let's move!" Artillery: The fuck you will. The Char 2C honestly looks like it should turn as quickly as most British tanks move in reverse with their single reverse gear. ;p
The engine situation on this tank is pretty weird and hard to find info on. First it had two Mercedes diesels rated at around 200hp, which then were changed to Maybach V12 diesels. Eventually it ended up with two Inline 6 Sautter-Harle engines. This tank uses a electric drive for the sprockets kind of like the Ferdinand did.
The 2C was initially powered by two Mercedes diesel engines taken from the Germans as war reparations. The Mercedes engines reportedly were rated for 180 to 200 horsepower, depending on the source. These were later upgraded to 250 horsepower Maybach units, also taken as reparations. These engines were water-cooled V12 diesels
The little guy you were trying to shoot crosses out to the right side of the screen a few seconds after you align your butt. It's pretty funny. (near the end)
Iirc those style of cupolas are supposed to spin pretty quick. Giving the commander a really good view as the spinning slots kind of all blur together to a functional transparency
I'm not exactly sure what the _displacement_ of those honking great straight 6s were, they were possibly twin 17 litre Maybachs, but they were located in the _engine room_ Engine _room_ _Engine_ room _Ships_ have engine rooms, that's how big this stupid thing is.
Litreage, the word you are looking for is displacement. The only info I could find on the engines was contradictory however it is claimed to have two six cylinders (probably diamler) producing 2-250kw each driving generators with individual drive motors for each track.
"So if I was this guy, what's your game plan?" It's BR 1.7, there's a good chance he hasn't even had a chance to realize he should _have a game plan._ xD
5:00 we still have big engines today in trains i can name 2 for sure IC-3 Deutz tcd 2015, 12 or 14 liter total displacement v6 v8 config respectively IC-4 Vector 8, 20 liter displacement V8 Scania also has a v8 at 16.4 liters
if i remember correctly, the jagdtiger, tiger 2 were over 70 tons. but the challenger 2 tes megatron and the newest abrams variants are also around 75 tons
Imagine being the replacement crewmember to this thing. You go into the tank and the first thing you need to do is either clean up the remains or pile up the corpses or just yeet them from the tank ALL 8 OF THEM and then just try to do all their jobs while in an active tank fight
those funnels are 2C's exhaust pipes. looks funny because it seems like it shouldn't be on top of pistons.i guess that is hybrid form of gas turbine and piston engine together and litre about maybe around 20-30?
@@amagimofumofu6549 Actually the 155 or whatever is an Area Denial tool if someone manages to get to your side, just gotta shoot as low as you can beside you and you should overpressure most light tanks around you.
Hiiii ^_^ I watched this video twice (because why not, it's Phly and my ancestor's engineering absur.....miracle), and the spontaneity of the italian babbling when finding this little wheelie boy at 14:11 had me laugh for minutes each time. Don't ever change please. And get well !
Haha !! I was like "Oh my God, did he really answer me !!!" Keep the PC, dear scam bot, have a nice holidays full of successful scam-botting. Or not ^_^
I took this thing and covered the whole front turret of this 20 foot tall monstrosity with branches and ferns. It actually works pretty well when you just pop up over a hill and plink them with your 155mm shell
I met one yesterday. Bonked twice with my armored car from up top it was dead kekw It was fairly hilarious cuz I'd been watching it for about 4 minutes trying to finally reach the spot navigating tight turns
bro I just subbed to phlycast and you better believe imma binge those videos tonight, (you should really upload more on there phly it would be really cool to see some videos other than war thunder)
