GIANT PowerPro Power Meter 2020 Edition: Details // Data Review

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The updated PowerPro Power Meter from Giant released on 2020 model bikes. A slight redesign to be almost unnoticeable on the bike. This video covers the tech specs and data review from a number of rides with the latest firmware on this power meter.
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Tech Specs:
Shimano Based Crankset (This is an Ultegra R8000 172.5mm)
Independent Left/Right measurement (combined to give total power)
Battery: Rechargeable lithium battery
Battery Life: ~100 hours
Wireless transmission 2.4GHz, ANT+ / Bluetooth® Smart (BLE 4.0)
Power Accuracy: ±2%
Weight: Left side: ~16g / Right side: ~16g
Power measurement range 0-3000 Watts
Cadence range 20-180 RPM (Accelerometer based, no frame magnets)
Water resistance level IPX7
Operating environment temperature range -10°C ~ 50°C / 14°F ~ 122°F
USB Charging cable (Proprietary connector. Different to MY19 model)
Firmware Updates: Giant RideLINK App
LED Light Indicators
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@Zeben84 4 года назад

I own one on my TCR Pro 1 Rim Brake 2020 and it's been flawless. Giant is actually really good value for money atm, selling bikes with carbon wheels and power meters for a really good price and as you said, you don't need to buy the wheels and the power meter seperatly and then getting them setup, it's just there on the bike when you buy it. Big point for them !

@_LeeTurner 4 года назад

Agree 100%

@garylucas7050 4 года назад

Have got a new TCR ADVANCED PRO 1, CANT SEEM TO SINK THE POWER METER , PICKS UP THE RIDESENSE SPEED AND CADENCE UNIT BUT CANT PICK UP POWERMETERS ON THE CRANKS ANY IDEAS ???

@arvinvelasco1404 3 года назад

@@garylucas7050 did you find out already how to fix it? have the same problem

@garylucas7050 3 года назад

Arvin Velasco hi Arvin, the problem was the battery in the power meter I sent it back to the retailer who were really great they changed the power meter when it arrived back it paired 1st time ..so if your power meter doesn’t pair the chances are it’s the battery in the power meter 👌🏻

@arvinvelasco1404 3 года назад

@@garylucas7050 when I plugged it the light turns on. but still I cant pair it

@davidnicholson6680 3 года назад

I have the MY19 version and it's been great in terms of reliability. I have a Quarq DZero on another bike and get similar readings for similar rides, so the Power Pro seems good enough for the likes of me. I was experiencing the battery drain issue (battery would die after a few days) last year but updating to firmware 238 seems to have corrected the issue. This is a quality power meter and its inclusion on so many Giant models is a killer feature for them. Other manufacturers: take note.

@jackmorrissey5318 4 года назад

When will the review to the elite suito come. I want to buy myself a smart trainer for birthday and this one looks like good value for money

@CAHSAG 4 года назад

I've got the 2019 version on my 2019 Giant Defy Advanced Pro and it's been great. Needs a little more regular charging, and you do have to be careful when putting the charger on, but it came with the bike and just works right out of the box. I've got the Rotor 2inPower on my gravel bike, and had to change the BB (bb86 on my bike) to make it work with the 30mm axle, and I can't really tell the difference between the two.

@billmartin1010 4 года назад

It looks as if Giant has figured out the "make work" to make total power come out looking accurate. Fudge the left side upward and total power earns the GPLAMA "looks good!" Total power is theoretically closer for a lot of people, but L/R power is farther off than before. Yesterday, I conducted my own Garmin Vector 2 vs. Stages LR Shimano test on the same ride. 10% difference. And I realized that using just the Left Stages would be more accurate for me than using both sides of the LR.

@andraslukoviczki519 4 года назад

i wanted to write exactly the same, if you have 50-50 balance, the result will be "good" with this Giant pm, but if you have different balance (lots of people have 48-52 or 52-48 or a little worse) the results will be more off... so it is a "cheap" solution imho...

@jonodexter1072 3 года назад

Fab video. Really helpful thank you.

@scenario1236 4 года назад

Thanks for posting US Dollar even though you don't have to! I am in market for a crank based power meter for 2020 season, of course I will visit DC Rainmaker before I make a final decision. Hands down you are putting out the best bike tech content on youtube.

@noahhalbfoster6892 4 года назад

power2max check them

@CreRay 4 года назад

+1 for Power2max

@jozefbulko758 4 года назад

I have 2019 edition and right side unit holder breaks. Somehow I lost one of two screws during rides and one screw was not enough to hold that right side unit. Seems that 2020 should be better.

@richardhutchings1980 4 года назад

Looks good. So you can upgrade a current generation ultegra crank?

@dgroen64 4 года назад

I started with the 2019 version on my Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0 in February 2019. Worked only on ANT+ and I had only readings from left side. Because bluetooth not functioning, not possible to update and hoping problem would be fixed... After replacement everything ok. In April 2020 it looked like during the update something went wrong. On my iPhone it looks like left side is on version 237 and right one on 238. In May 2020 next problem, right side dead battery. I can only see powermeters, when charging. Little difficult when biking :-) Now new replacement with the 2020 version dor two days, hope it will be ok now. Donald

@jayjam9106 4 года назад

The new 2020 version is really good

@tekesbur 4 года назад

I broke the previous version on my TCR Pro 0 when I dropped the chain outside the chainring which ripped the cover. Kudos to Giant customer service they quickly replaced the broken PM with the new version. At first it worked just fine but I had been noticing the low battery life vs the old and the Quarq on another bike. I was actually giving up on the PM until I saw your video. I updated the software just tonight so I will see if it works tomorrow morning. This PM (and the previous version) works just fine to be honest. It is slightly a better design but finding the charging locations is a bit of a hassle. Hopefully the performance will get better after the software update.

@gplama 4 года назад

Keep me posted on the firmware/battery performance post update.

@tekesbur 4 года назад

@@gplama will do

@ahmettopal6301 2 года назад

Selam Burak... Hala kullanıyor musun, memnun musun powermetreden?

@TheCMGman 4 года назад

I’m about to get my 3rd power pro unit. 2019 unit never worked properly, 2020 unit worked perfectly for 3 weeks then started throwing dodgy figures before it completely failed. Spent a while doing updates (Giant have updated the ride link app almost every week for 2 months now so something up there) but it soon became clear the battery in the left side was on the fritz. Giant have sent another unit to my LBS to be installed this week. I’m still hopeful it’ll work this time. Full credit, Giant NZ have been great to deal with. If anyone else is having issues pay attention to the app updates, firmware updates and how long the battery is holding charge. My unit failed about the point it needed charging every 2-3 days.

@ianjf2000 4 года назад

Got exact same issue - and also in NZ! I had a MY19 to start with on my new TCR Advanced Pro. Battery life was awful, only lasted 4-5 hours max and needed recharging. Took back to my LBS and they replaced at no cost to an MY20. Had it now for about 3 weeks and same old problems - battery only lasts 4-5 hours. Have just updated RideLink on my phone and updated firmware to 2.3.8 and will now wait and see if that makes a difference. If not it's back to my LBS again. Shame as it's such an awesome bike.

@TheCMGman 4 года назад

Ian Fraser I wouldn’t wait till it dies. If your down to under a days battery life that’s enough for them to replace it seeing as their advertised battery life is 20x that. There have been 5 updates at least to the app in the last 3 months. I wouldn’t bank on another one making any real difference.

@ianjf2000 4 года назад

@@TheCMGman thanks for replying mate. Worked out on a ride this morning and now going to test it out over the coming days. More than likely means another trip to LBS :(

@DaaaveO1971 4 года назад

Another great endorsement of the AssiomaDUO. Shimano based power meters, not so much.

@driftwood1752 3 года назад

Edge 530 > No data screen for Battery Power? And also... I watched your video’s about how PC is best for Di2 but Giant Ride App (for Power Firmware updates and battery level) not available on PC? Shame everything can’t be on a single device?

@kayp8949 4 года назад

I heart from a bike mechanic that Giant buys the cranks shops Them back to Shimano for conversion to powermeter. So IT could be a prototype Ultegra powermeter and the license and patents are giants.

@Weaztek 4 года назад

Looks good! If and when PowerTap C1 bites the bullet I may jump on this if they make a 165mm crank length. It should use CR1032 batteries though.

@69ssj 2 года назад

I started having issues with my gen 2 crankset yesterday. Refuses to connect to any device (head unit or stupid Giant app). Charged the battery on both crank arms (I believe). Turn the cranks again to wake them up, but the lights refuse to turn on. Very frustrating.

@joeyjones2344 Год назад

Hi Shane. I’m considering buying this power meter (it’ll be my first). Do you know if you get power metrics (L/R balance, etc) on a wahoo bolt v2 head unit? I understand you do on the Giant app, but was wondering if it was also possible on wahoo as maybe there’s been some firmware updates. Cheers.

@globalhaddadholdings9540 3 года назад

Do you know if the powermeter connects to the Wahoo Bolt, and if it displays Power and Cadence? Is the experience fairly smooth?

@rsam346 3 года назад

That's how I've got mine set up, works well for me!

@napolipizza-hw8xd Год назад

Great summary. I’m picking up a 2022 and have a choice with or without single sided giant power. I was excited about having it come with bike, but by comments not so sure. Are issues largely resolved or do they plague 2022 models as well? With the battery not replaceable, how many years are these expected to last/charge cycles?

@gplama Год назад

Single sided might be ok. It's the right side on the dual power meters using these cranks that's usually the issue. No idea about battery longevity. That's one for Giant.

@cliffordchaperon6795 4 года назад

Shane - would you ever go back to rim brakes ?

@jasonpascoe8582 3 года назад

I love my 2021 TCR and the power meters, but struggle with the Ride Link App on Android. I've never successfully updated the firmware or been able to do the calibration process. Yet a friend with an iPhone has. Has anyone else experienced this and can advise please? I'll probably get my LBS where I bought it to sort if I can't. Outside of that issue, I have no complaints or issues about anything.

@BlueJayGer 4 года назад

Just updated the firmware. Thank you. Im pretty sure the power meter is reading a bit high

@eucaesiayu 3 года назад

Mine is 20w higher than my wahoo kickr. What about yours?

@BlueJayGer 3 года назад

@@eucaesiayu I didn't test them together but my kickr definitely reads lower than my other power meters (quarq and the giant)

@kevinpanahon9702 3 года назад

Got this on my 2020 TCR. Right crank is pretty much dead. Probably reads accurately 2% of my riding time. Do you know if similar to the MY19 2-year warranty this one only applies to the original owner?

@gplama 3 года назад

One for Giant support

@LayMamaHoMah 4 года назад

Hi Shane, I can't seem to connect to my20 from my phone - when I try to connect it says the power meter is rejecting the connection. Is updating the firmware necessary? I can't connect to my Garmin 830 Edge as well.

@gplama 4 года назад

In theory the latest firmware will always be the one to use. If things are screwing up, you'll need to contact Giant Support.

@davidthompson3440 4 года назад

Hi Shane, wouldn’t mind your opinion please. Bought a new 2019 Propel Advanced Pro Carbon last September, however, only just started riding it this last couple of months (didn’t want to get it wet or mucked up lol). Done about 650km on it. Here’s the question. I do the same 30km ride on it every time I go out. Power readings from the Giant supplied Power Pro pm come up on an Element Bolt. The NP is consistently coming up lower than the average power. For this mornings ride, NP 261, average 268. I thought NP should always be higher (unless you’re on rollers when you’d expect parity). For comparison, I have an older TCR Advanced with a stages 4iii single crank pm, and some data from the same ride last year was NP 270, average 238. Don’t know where to go. A pm isn’t much good if it’s inaccurate. Based on your escapades with the pm when you got your new TCR, where do think the error may be. (I’ve updated the firmware btw and zero offset before each ride). Ps, I’m 56, ride as hard as I can, love cycling and love your channel. Can’t wait for your Stages indoor trainer full review 😀

@gplama 4 года назад

Impossible to tell what's happening here without seeing FIT files. You'll have to keep digging at this one.

@davidthompson3440 4 года назад

Cheers Shane

@Falkon620 4 года назад

So what this means is my total power is good on my 2020 TCR, but I don't need to worry about the fact it says I'm 51-54% left, 46-49% right? Do you have an estimate of the average Delta left to right given equal power?

@gplama 4 года назад

Yes, maybe. It's complex. There's no one answer as to how 'off' it is. If there was they'd fix it in firmware.

@Falkon620 4 года назад

@@gplama Ok. Thanks!

@almadam100 4 года назад

if you happen to need to change the cracks length, can you move the powermeters that come with the TCR?

@gplama 4 года назад

You'll need to get another power meter with the required cranklength.

@finncox23 4 месяца назад

Any chance you've tested the new 12-speed variants? If so, do they suffer from the same common Shimano-based power meter issues?? If they do, is there any way to scale the Giant Power Pro 12-speed models?

@gplama 4 месяца назад

No. I suspect they would, but we won’t know until tested.

@rich2785 3 года назад

What is the best way to determine the current battery level on the 2020 Giant Power Pro Power Meter?

@gplama 3 года назад

The Giant Ride Link app should give the battery level.

@chb6081 4 года назад

Hallo Shane Miller, my Giant Power Pro 2020 show me 1000 Watts and more when I'am doing easy. The values are incredible high and unrealistic. I recalbrated and do all the stuff from User manuel. what can I do?

@gplama 4 года назад

Return it.

@aguswahyudi710 3 года назад

Hi Shane, Im wondering can we use the giant power meter crankset with Rotor Oval Chainring? Thanks before.

@gplama 3 года назад

Nope.

@Filippo_995 3 года назад

Has anyone experienced issues with the 2021 version (Connection with garmin ecosystem, inaccurate power data readings, calibration problems...)? Is my first power meter so i don't need the absolute perfection, just a good reliabilty for training indoor and outdoor with power. I ordered a 2021 Giant tcr pro 0 disc and i'm a little worried about the power meter quality😥.

@Rob_33 3 года назад

I have a Giant Defy and it seems to work ok

@pedro_henriques 2 года назад

I have a 2021 version for 4 months and i'm starting to have some issues right now, can't connect to the ridelink app or when connects i can't calibrate, i have a garmin edge 530 and can't calibrate there to always gives me errors

@alper_goren 19 дней назад

Can we use only left side for powermeter

@DonDiPriel 3 года назад

is there a way of taking one crank arm to another bike and have two one sided power meters? I cant find two bluetooth/ANT+ devices

@gplama 3 года назад

Not with this model as far as I’m aware.

@franzbobino294 4 года назад

Just a question about the recharging. Where do i put the wires on the crankset?

@gplama 4 года назад

On the charge ports. Which are on the inside of each crank.

@mikeclements4548 3 года назад

Been on 3 rides now and each time 42 W Left 58 W right - worked my left harder last ride as well ! Does it matter ?

@gplama 3 года назад

What matters to me is that a product meets the specifications as sold.

@arnesabbe4206 3 года назад

have a 21 TCR for 3 months now and PM is not working correctly anymore , I'm unable to calibrate. Bringing it back to my LBS. Already saw a lot of people with similar problem

@pedro_henriques 2 года назад

i'm starting to have the same problem now, you where able to fix it?

@arnesabbe4206 2 года назад

@@pedro_henriques received a new one from giant

@Gondola_ Год назад

Hold on, I have the original PowerPro on this very exact same blue Giant bike at home. My crankset needs to be replaced soon, I cannot reuse this power meter if I just buy a Shimano replacement? Damn it!

@andreknirsch4420 4 года назад

Hello, my english is not so good. Is the power meter recommended or not? Greetings André

@gplama 4 года назад

@macabrerizo 3 года назад

Hello Shane, I own a power pro (my20) on a 2020 Giant Defy; I also own a pair of Assioma duo. I have done a couple of road test with both powermeters linked to Garmin units. My results are consistently 10% higher for the Power Pro unit over Favero's. Of course both were calibrated and updated just before the test . Any thoughts on what my cause such a difference?

@gplama 3 года назад

Not much I can add here without reviewing a lot of data from both. I've given up at this point on any Shimano right side crank for power data.

@macabrerizo 3 года назад

@@gplama Thanks for the the reply. Just one more question if I may, based on your experience, can the readings be consider precise? (it is clear they are not accurate) A consistent error is ok for me, otherwise it is just a useless device

@gplama 3 года назад

@@macabrerizo They'll be consistent.... yes. But not consistent enough across all use-cases (riding types/etc) for them to fix in firmware.

@ssbagley 3 года назад

Mine also reads 10% high. Giant tried to fix but still reading high. They are replacing it now. Hopefully for a Stages!!

@wbosteels 4 года назад

Is it true you have to calibrate before every ride, through the ridelink app?

@gplama 4 года назад

Calibration (aka zero-offset) can be performed by any head unit. Before every ride..... maybe. If you really care about the best data possible, yes. But if you want the best data then a Shimano based L/R unit isn't the answer.

@elfeggs 4 года назад

Thought I was watching a Mark Felton !!!!😹

@Anihalas 3 года назад

I also thought a mark felton video had started in another tab!

@TheTommyg86 3 года назад

lol same

@roccorusso5677 4 года назад

Hi Shane, can you tell if there are issues connecting power pro meter to garmin devices such as 820 explore or forerunner watch? i get bluetooth signal to the ridelink app on iphone but none on garmin devices...thanks for advice ;-)

@gplama 4 года назад

The 820 Explore has no power meter support. It should connect to the Forerunner (assuming it's a model that supports power).

@roccorusso5677 4 года назад

Shane Miller - GPLama thx for the reply, the forerunner does not support the pm either, i guess it is time for an upgrade ;-)

@irfanmahadir5418 3 года назад

Hi. Do u happens to know if the power meter can work independently L/R? I split the crankset over 2 bikes but unable to connect with the bike using the drive side PM

@gplama 3 года назад

I don't believe the Giant power meters can be split like this.

@irfanmahadir5418 3 года назад

@@gplama thnx for the reply. Appreciate it. Did an extensive research online, manage to connect it to my bike comp seperately. The non drive side connects over ant+ while the drive side over bluetooth.

@tomhiscox9683 4 года назад

Hi Shane, is it possible to change the chainrings for compact sizes without effecting the power meter?

@gplama 4 года назад

I assume this will work. The crank length doesn’t change with that, so all should be fine.

@tomhiscox9683 4 года назад

Shane Miller - GPLama thanks!

@guillermomanuelgarcia7351 3 года назад

Hello Mr. Miller I’ve just bought this device, and I want to know if is possible check the battery status on a Garmin edge 830, during the activity? Thanks

@gplama 3 года назад

I don’t believe this is possible.

@guillermomanuelgarcia7351 3 года назад

@@gplama thanks for for fast answer

@osh111 3 года назад

@@guillermomanuelgarcia7351 can you check battery level on their phone app?

@Squash_Man 3 года назад

Do the SRM Dura Ace power meters have the same right side power issue?

@gplama 3 года назад

Yes

@road-racing.plofficialchan393 9 месяцев назад

Hi Shane i received a test bike from Giant (new Defy) as far as i see its still the same model that You reviewd. Can that be true? 3 tears without changing a model?

@gplama 9 месяцев назад

The same power meter? On the 11spd R8000 crank?

@road-racing.plofficialchan393 9 месяцев назад

@@gplama No iits the FC R8100. Do You have already your Handa on it?

@ejinto 4 месяца назад

@@gplama It looks like there is a new version out for the 12 speed FC-R8100, it would be great to get your perspective on if this has overcome any of the historical issues. Manual is here: static.giant-bicycles.com/Manuals/GIANTPOWERPROV3USERMANUAL_EN_1680782534.pdf

@mbehring9042 4 года назад

You mention that there's no cycling dynamics via ANT+, does it transmit power balance to the head unit?

@gplama 4 года назад

Cycling Dynamics isn't L/R balance, it's a more detailed set of analytics. The PowerPro units should transmit L/R to head units no problem.

@mbehring9042 4 года назад

@@gplama Fantastic, thank you for the reply.

@JeffreyCallan 3 года назад

Not sure why but I cannot get my firmware to update on this power meter. It won't connect when I go into the firmware update in the app. Seems to connect fine at all other times. Also not getting a right-sided reading. Am I supposed to have two pieces of hardware, one on each crank? My TCR came with a device only on the left crank.

@gplama 3 года назад

One for Giant Support.

@drtyjrze 3 года назад

There should be a device on each crank. That’s why your charger has two connectors.

@CHSS 3 года назад

I have a brand new 2021 giant defy advanced pro1 with the new powermeter + build in cadanssensor. Pairing this sensor don't work for now with my latest garmin explore. With my giant computerIt works well, power and cadans. I did sensor search on the explore but no cadans from the giant is found. Can i have some help?

@gplama 3 года назад

Garmin Explore units won’t pair to power meters. You’ll need an Edge or other compatible Garmin device.

@CHSS 3 года назад

@@gplama So it is that the cadans build in sensor is not separated from the powermeter. I only wanted the cadens on the garmin and will buy a garmin stand alone sensor for it. Ps: thanks for the wonderfull instructions video's. On time i connected my di2 to Etube and at the same time my smartphone to wireless unit. The system went down and the screen said my battery charger could be broken. i disconected the battery as shown on your video and get it up running again.

@dewacen 3 года назад

which gps computer do you suggest to use with this power meter? I am considering between Wahoo ELMNT or Giant Neostrack

@gplama 3 года назад

Wahoo would be a better option of those two.

@CHSS 3 года назад

I have the neostrack and it shows me that i have an 53 rotor instead of the 50 that is on the cranck. Settings in the Etube app from my di2 are correct 50-34 and 11-28. The neostrack has a good di2 connection but is wrong about my rotorsize and no way i can fix this inside te neostrack i think.

@MrIvanPe 4 года назад

My personal experience with this power meter is perhaps less positive than this review. I’ve been training with power for 6 years now. I got this power meter with a Giant TCR Pro that I bought. However, it always reads 3.5-4% higher than other power sources that I own and trust. I admit that it’s at least consistent, but what’s the point of a power meter that doesn’t tell you the correct power?

@addisonshi9276 3 года назад

Same problem here!

@eucaesiayu 3 года назад

mine is like 10% higher than my Wahoo kickr. 4% is not too bad, i wish mine is only 4% higher.

@ssbagley 3 года назад

Same here. Getting it replaced under warranty

@matthewblue7839 Год назад

Do you need to have the bluetooth box installed somewhere on your bike for this to work ?

@gplama Год назад

The Bluetooth box? Not sure I follow. This power meter will connect to any GPS/head unit that supports ANT+ Power devices (most of them).

@davidrailton1487 3 года назад

I have the 2020 version on a new giant bike. Unable to calibrate using the ridelink app. Error message Failed (0000ee333) I've updated the firmware but still no luck and same error. Calibration with Garmin says it zero's but figures don't seem realistic. Any suggestions appreciated

@gplama 3 года назад

One for Giant Support or your local Giant dealer.

@davidrailton1487 3 года назад

thanks

@hulamania 4 года назад

Can you speculate on how the aggregate power numbers are coming out OK? Does the ‘fudging’ consist of increasing left side reported power to compensate for presumed lower right side power?

@gplama 4 года назад

One for Giant. I’ve pulled out my hair (singular) too much to allocate any more time to the LR issue. It exists. It won’t when Shimano make a better crank.

@billmartin1010 4 года назад

@@gplama , do you mean a more power meter-friendly crank? Shimano is pretty broadly recognized as making the best crank out there. But apparently, not terribly PM-friendly.

@fukawitribe 4 года назад

@@billmartin1010 Yeah, not power meter friendly. Keith Wakeham has done some very interesting modelling of the cranks arms to explain things more, worth having a look around for more like that. Here's one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Zwt4Bx_FGHU.html

@gplama 4 года назад

@@billmartin1010 I'd agree it's the best looking crank out there..... but that's as far as I'd go :)

@michaelglidewell1524 4 года назад

@@fukawitribe thanks so much for that RU-vid video link, that saved me from writing a super long comment. A much shortened comment is that (if I recall correctly) from Shane's tests with the Stages left-right system, the left measured fairly accurately but the right read low at times. Whereas with this Giant left-right system the left measures high and the right measures low but the sum is fairly accurate. If you watch that video in the link you provided he mentions coupling, seems that the Giant system might be reading power that is coupled from right to left so that it somehow gets the sum correct but doesn't recognize where the actually power originates. That's the essence of the thought I had and your link made it much easier to express but referring to that video.

@antonioargentieri8755 4 года назад

there are important differences between my19 and my20 ?

@gplama 4 года назад

Form factor... that’s about it.

@marcomaas9915 2 года назад

It is strange. I have the Giant powermeter and also the Tacx Neo 2. When I ride 200 watts om my Gaint powermeter, the Neo gives about 170. This is way more differents than you show. I however have the feeling that the Gaint powerpro is more accurate because it comes a lot more close to the stages powermeter I use in the Gym.

@Tanguy1911 3 месяца назад

I have the same issue as you (except I believe that my smart trainer is correct). Did you by any chance manage to fix the issue ? Cheers

@marcomaas9915 3 месяца назад

@@Tanguy1911 no I just ride with the powermeter of my Giant. I am still not convinced which is best but in the gym we have 30 spinning bikes with all stages powermeters and they give more or less the same figures as my Giant. Also there is an extensive test of my Giant powermeter on RU-vid which show really accurate figures and I also compared my powermeter to others which are all similar so I tend to believe my Giant.

@lightkyle7823 4 года назад

Hello GPLama, hello everyone, Does anyone know if this new power meter is used on every 2020 bike with the Giant Power Pro power meter ? Because for example, the TCR Advanced Pro Team Disc 2020 has this power meter, but no "Power Pro" technology, while the TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc 2020, with the same power meter, has the "Power Pro" technology. And on the Giant website, the "Power Pro" tech. is described as the new Giant Power Pro power meter. So I was wondering if maybe some 2020 bikes were still using the 2019 Giant Power Pro power meter. Thank you.

@gplama 4 года назад

MY2020 Power Pro Build list: Avow Advanced Pro 1 Avow Advanced Pro 2 Defy Advanced Pro 1-Ui2 Enviliv Advanced Pro 1 Disc Langma Advanced 1 Disc-SE Langma Advanced 2-SE Langma Advanced Pro 1 Langma Advanced Pro 1 Disc Langma Advanced Pro 2 Disc Propel Advanced 1-SE Propel Advanced Pro 0 Propel Advanced Pro 1 Propel Advanced Pro 1 Disc TCR Advanced Pro 0 TCR Advanced Pro 1 TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc TCR Advanced Pro 1 Disc-King of Mountain TCR Advanced Pro 2 Disc TCR Advanced Pro 2 Disc-King of Mountain TCR Advanced Pro Team Disc TCR Advanced SL 1 Disc-King of Mountain TCR Advanced SL 2 TCR Advanced SL 2-King Of Mountain Trinity Advanced Pro 2

@lightkyle7823 4 года назад

@@gplama Thanks a lot !

@trroland1248 3 года назад

Why do Shimano crank-based power meters suffer a left-right issue?

@gplama 3 года назад

Read all about that here: gplama.com/2019/06/29/shimano-crankset-power-meters/

@saijapz16 4 года назад

i got this powerpro last week , my right reads higher than my left , its my first power meter ever., my left is 44% and my right is 56% , what does this mean

@gplama 4 года назад

You're best getting in contact with Giant Support.

@saijapz16 2 года назад

@@gplama ive been using this power meter for 2yrs now, its a good product , power balance sometimes is 48-52 sometimes its 47-53 maybe its just me, cuz im always having cramps on my right leg 😫

@rickykiller90 4 года назад

I have the previous model and having problems with it!!!

@Dan-Morley 3 года назад

I had the old version and it broke within a week. Waited 9 months for Giant to send a warranty replacement and I’ve just had the Power Pro S installed free of charge.

@bassbassbasser 4 года назад

Can you please test the PowerPod V3?

@gplama 4 года назад

Maybe. To be honest that unit doesn’t hold much interest due to having no use inside other than switching to a speed:power curve unit.

@markhumke9349 11 месяцев назад

Is Mark Felton cool with this ?

@gplama 11 месяцев назад

....?

@richardmathers7238 4 года назад

No tacx neobike ride review ?

@gplama 4 года назад

Soon. I need to ride it a lot before I can talk about that side of things.

@rechietiu2857 4 года назад

Hi Shane! I have Assioma Duo and Giant power pro. I installed my Assioma Duo on the Power Pro to compare watts. The power pro is reading 25watts higher. Is there a way to calibrate or something to bring it down closer to the assioma duo? Thanks in advance Shane! Keep safe!

@gplama 4 года назад

One for Giant. I'm not sure of any way... or an easy way to scale which side (or both?) on a PowerPro.

@rechietiu2857 4 года назад

I’m not sure which side. I just based it on the average. Its just a big waste that its off way too big. I wonder if Giant can do an update to fix this issue?

@addisonshi9276 3 года назад

Similar problem here compare to tacx neo when Zwifting. Any update?

@rechietiu2857 3 года назад

I’m going to document my readings and send it to my dealer. And ask for a warranty. I will compare it to my assioma duo, thinkrider x7 smart trainer and the power pro.

@eucaesiayu 3 года назад

I am in the same boat here, I just deuct 25w off the readings.

@nblake101 3 года назад

I’ve just ordered one, to be installed at my local bike shop in a older TCR carbon, my first power meter. My whole reason for ordering this brand it’s got local support and I’ve had multiple injuries in my left leg. According to your video the right side will be off by 10%?? This is fine provided it’s consistent. I have problems with pedals when clipping in at lights so I don’t want to be stuck with ones I have issues with, also pedals wear out over time right? Please someone tell me I’ve made a good decision 😬

@gplama 3 года назад

If the right side was off by a known/content amount, they'd simply factor that in and you'd have an accurate power meter. It's more complex than that. Depending on how deep you want to research this.... here's some reading: gplama.com/2019/06/29/shimano-crankset-power-meters/

@nblake101 3 года назад

Shane, I see what your saying and other RU-vid reviewers have complained of the same right side problem but there are teams in the world tour using them. Is the right side always down? My thinking is that if I see my left side is less or same as right side then I’ve got an issue as I know my left side is an issue? Also if the unit is always inaccurate(inherit fault) then I can simply return it within 12months as I’m having a giant shop fit it for me.

@gplama 3 года назад

@@nblake101 It sounds like you've talked yourself into your purchase, that's cool. I have no skin in this game. I don't sell these things. RE: World Tour teams.... They are paid to ride equipment. That's how they're funded (sponsors). It's not by choice. Dowsett switched to a Power2Max for his worlds ITT (his team equipment is 4iiii). Sanders' hour record was on a single sided meter as the right side was a similar shape to the Shimano.

@nblake101 3 года назад

Actually you talked me into them, best “Giant, Best Shimano crankset”, might get the Pedal’s PM’s for next winters indoor riding. For now I need a reliable solution for road training ASAP, hope I can see differences in right & left side as I’m travelling along. All new too me.

@nblake101 3 года назад

Just got my bike back with PowerPro installed and quick run up to Sassafras, like I thought, using Pedal Balance I could see my Left leg dropping off torwards top of the hill to L40-R60, very helpful when riding imgur.com/a/j1fescP

@Scholtholt 4 года назад

Anyone else having problems to update the firmware using an Android phone?

@EricGohImages 3 года назад

iOS seems ok

@davidnicholson6680 3 года назад

I did have a problem in the past with the connection dropping mid update using the Android RideLink app, but I've been able to do the last two firmware updates without issue. Seems like the app is operating well at this point.

@kabm 6 месяцев назад

I have a bad experience with this Giant power meter. One day, left side just died. There are no lights blinking on the left side. I can connect it to my head unit but power readings are garbage random numbers. Has anyone experienced a similar issue?

@gplama 6 месяцев назад

Return it if it’s still under warranty.

@kabm 6 месяцев назад

@@gplama Unfortunately not. i bought second hand bike with that power meter :(

@thomashumphrey124 4 года назад

Is it possible to get the left crank to just double its value?

@gplama 4 года назад

I don't think Giant allow this.

@thomashumphrey124 4 года назад

@@gplama Thanks for replying. One option could be to sell the complete cranks and just buy a left side 4iii or similar then. The 2020 TCR advanced pro disc 1 is on sale for $5.6k or 4.4k for the 2 here in NZ. Still feel like its a steal.

@HooxNZ 4 года назад

@@thomashumphrey124 did you end up buying one? Looking at the 2 right now

@jorandxd 3 года назад

I lost my usb cable, where i can buy another?

@gplama 3 года назад

Best contact Giant on this one. It’s a proprietary connector on the power meter end.

@jorandxd 3 года назад

@@gplama im from Chile, so its hard to happend

@andycampbell1169 3 года назад

Have you ever had issues calibrating with ride link? I keep getting a 0000ee22 error code. The firmware updates ok.

@gplama 3 года назад

No issues when testing this. If it calibrates/zeros via your head unit, that’s all that’s needed.

@simonjh16302 3 года назад

I’m having the same issue using the Giant app. With my Garmin 520 it says calibration error -1. Could it be an issue with the firmware? 2.4.1

@andycampbell1169 3 года назад

Waiting on a response from Giant now. It won't even calibrate from my 520 head unit.🙄

@arnesabbe4206 3 года назад

@@andycampbell1169 did you receive an answer? having the same problem

@andycampbell1169 3 года назад

After many calls with Giant customer services they told me as it won't calibrate then it is a second warranty claim.

@MrJonnyb120 4 года назад

Weird I just re watched new bike day video this morning

@thedroolfool 4 года назад

I was interested right up until the proprietary power connector. No way I'm locking myself into a single cable or an insanely priced replacement. What a silly way to make things more complex for no reason.

@gplama 4 года назад

They're all doing it. Off the top of my head I have chargers for Giant x2, Rotor, Zwatt, Favero Assioma, along with Di2.

@mpk2707 4 года назад

I have been comparing my Stages (2nd gen) left only with my NEO 2. I have 30 to 50 watt difference between the 2 units. Strangely if I pull just as hard with my left leg as I push, tada NEO and Stages show the same data ????? This is though way to hard to maintain :-( . - Anyway, thanks for the comparison Shane .

@barrydaniel3308 4 года назад

Very disappoint with giant regarding there customer service, infact who am I kidding they have no customer service. My 2019 giant propel disc which cost me 5 grand had problems from the start with the power pro power meter, giant took weeks to deal with it and that was after a reminder phone call, only seem to be interested if its pro teams or well known you tubers ( no disrespect to yourself shane, think your a great chap and love your videos) my point been a noone like myself they are not interested in. I hope your 2020 version is better. 👍