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In this video I will be reviewing the Giant Propel Advanced 1 Disc. An aero road bike that I purchased a few months ago now. I will be focusing on a unique riding characteristics, price, weight, geometry, design, riding experiences and an immediate upgrade, which is NOT the Shimano Ultegra Disc nor the Giant SLR 2 carbon wheels. I will also provide my rating system which is based on:
Rating System:
COMFORT:
Front end comfort (absorbing road bumps & divots)
Rear end comfort (absorbing road bumps & divots)
Vibration on coarse roads
Bouncing on seat over bumps
General fatigue in the body after riding
SPEED:
Ability to hold speed free pedaling
Ability to hold speed in bunch
Ability fo hold speed in draft
Ability to maintain or generate speed on descents
General feel when riding a steady state
Ability to hold speed and accelerate out of corners
HANDLING
Control & feel when out of saddle climbing
Control & feel when out of saddle sprinting
Steering control around corners
Ability to quickly move to bike (avoiding potholes, riders, traffic)
General feel at steady state riding
General feel at high speed riding
PRACTICALITY
Ability to alter/change touch points with ease (Saddle and Handlebars)
Ability to easily clean the bike. Does the paint hold grit and grim?
Does the paint scratch/mark easily
Will the bike resale with ease
STIFFNESS:
Does there appear to be flex in the frame during general riding
How responsive does the bike feel when pressure is applied to the crank
How well does the bike comply when out of the saddle sprinting
VALUE FOR MONEY
For the price, how much value does the bike deliver
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@Keule_from_Mars 3 года назад

Usually i skip Ads. But i'd never skip the old Mate.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

hahahaha! Classic. Old Mate would be happy to hear that

@Keule_from_Mars 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls 😆👊

@PauloBurgio 2 года назад

This was the last review I watched before finally committing to buying the 2021 Propel Advanced Disc 1. I upgraded the tyres before leaving the Giant store on the advice of this video and the Giant technician . I managed to get the bike for £3,824 as the new 2022 models were available. Amazing value for money. I tested the bike on one of my local 30 mile rides that I often do. The route has just over 3,000 meters of elevation gain. I beat my all time PB set on my 2013 Pinarello by 9 MINUTES !!!! My Pinarello weighs in about 1kg lighter than the Propel but it’s aero design, tubeless tyres and the new top spec 28mm tyres just overpowered that 1kg disadvantage. I also decided not go for tue Di2 package and went back to the simple cable controlled Ultegra setup. The manual trim controls on the front crank work perfectly. If your budget is £4,000 to £4,500 I can’t imagine finding a better all round package. Thank you Cam for your review of the Propel. It gave me the confidence to pick the bike.

@eduardclaudiufadgyas3365 2 года назад

What tyres did you go for?? Did you manage to fit 28mm? Tubeless?

@PauloBurgio 2 года назад

@@eduardclaudiufadgyas3365 28mm S Works Turbo tubeless tyres. 26mm would be lighter and faster but with all the potholes I went for the 28’s

@michaelnewell1 3 года назад

Hi Cam. I own the 2021 SL0. It has bugger all flex. It is still compliant and it is a missile. I threw the cadex tyres in the bin. I am running Maxxis High Road tubeless. The bike weighs 7.2kg.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Nice one mate, great bike! I'd like to try the new TCR

@MeMurphy10Feb 3 года назад

Agree, have had the model up with Di2 for 2 years and just changed to the Schwalbe One's, also recommended by a Giant dealer. I did opt for the 28's and have only done 70Km's since but it does feel a LOT better. Its a great bike overall - only thing I thought you might mention is that to me compared to previous bikes it can feel a bit numb when pottering around, but when you are really pushing it does feel far more in its "sweet spot". Talking of value, I was a Trek guy before but saved over $6k from the equivalent specced Trek Madone which is crazy really.

@matthewross244 2 года назад

Hi, I’m thinking of buying the same bike - 2021 propel advanced pro 0, was looking to upgrade the tyres too but read Giants website and it says 26mm max, I see you’ve fitted 28’s with no issues?

@jamesarnold8964 3 года назад

Be great to see how the Orbea Orca aero compares. Especially as it’s likely to be updated shortly based on bike they are using at the vuelta!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes, I'd like to get my hands on that one!

@okreidieh 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls and the madone please?

@inferno4001 3 года назад

Giant is always a great value for money!! Best 1500 euro I ever spent when starting to ride bikes!! I still ride my tcr and defy and love them!! In future, I'd like to try the sworks bikes, but the dogmas are pretty hard to beat I guess....

@morosis82 Год назад

So apparently I can't find a Merida Reacto 8000 anywhere in my size until some time mid next year. Have a test ride down at Giant Brisbane on the Pro model of this on Thursday to check it out, thanks for the review as it has me feeling better about taking the second choice.

@leander4586 3 года назад

I bought that bike 4 months ago. Did not changed the tyres yet but after this video I will definitely do so!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Good call

@Workaholic42 3 года назад

You won‘t regret it

@Ashtrax83 3 года назад

Before ending up with my 2018 Giant Propel Advanced 1 Disc i tried Venge Vias, S5 and Canyon Aeroad. The Giant was the cheapest and stiffest and since I'm 95kg/350 ftp i need a very rigid frame. Maybe it's up to the Giant having much better wheels at the price-point than the competitors but i disagree on the flexing part and experience almost no flex at all compared the the before mentioned competitors. Thanks for a good review.

@mrogulja 3 года назад

Same here. No flex at all. Upgraded to carbon stem and handlebars and it feels stiffer when sprinting yet more compliant.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing on the thread Peter, and interesting to hear. I guess everyones riding experiences can be different, and terrain and the style of riding can play a big factor.

@rolffuchs2737 3 года назад

It's interesting what you say about comfort. A well known German magazine wrote the ride is very harsh. But i trust your verdict more than some engineers who don't race the bikes. And of course, they tested it with the Gavia tires.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes I think it depends where you ride it. As mentioned I have really harsh roads where I live so you get to ‘know’ how the frame responds.

@hotcakes1117 3 года назад

I hear the stock wheels that come with the Reacto really hold it back. Throwing on some top tier wheels and tyres really take it to another level. Will wait for your review though

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes that is 100% accurate! We'll discuss that in the review in a couple of weeks.

@tomermahlis12 3 года назад

But then u add another 1000$ that’s like 6500$ all together u can get much better value for money for that

@Mububban23 3 года назад

@@tomermahlis12 what would you recommend?

@BV192 3 года назад

Those are hookless clincher rims, a totally retarded system if you ask me, with the max pressure being 5bar (72psi)..

@andrewgiannini6094 3 года назад

@@BV192 tires that have been tested by Giant are safe to run at normal pressures.

@fermoynissan1 3 года назад

It’s quite difficult to find a review of this particular bike online . Giant should definitely be paying you commission considering you bought the bike to review it . Excellent job . Regarding the Winsoace Hyper wheels you have been reviewing could you try to explain the difference between a 50 & 65 version . Thanks in advance

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers mate, I have not ridden the 65s, but I would say they're going to win on the flats, especially on low wind days, or with a tail wind.

@peterkinowski4492 3 года назад

Great review Cam. Still can't get over you going down Gyndier Dr through turn 10 one handed while holding a camera....now that's bike handling skill! 😄

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

haha, cheers mate. I just need to be carful of those leafs that are damp underneath! They will get you.

@simonalexandercritchley439 3 года назад

Gedday Cam.According to Hambini the sloping top tube is no good for aero,so maybe that is better for this frame,for all the claims that are made it is often just fashion or marketing BS.It will be good to see the final comparison of the 3 bikes.

@solitaryrefinement6787 3 года назад

I'm a Cannondale man, but that's your hottest bike bro. 😍

@CycoWarriorx 3 года назад

@susana.7803 3 года назад

This comment is a day late, but Tuesday nights in the US are great because that means it’s Wednesday in Australia and Cam Nicholls will be uploading a new vid. 👌🏻 👌🏻

@melbournecyclingsegments7510 3 года назад

Nice review Cam, I enjoyed that!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers mate

@Thomas-bv9pv 3 года назад

I am a 2018 Propel owner and the SLR One 42 mm Front Wheel does not work for me. It is almost impossible to go down hill at higher speeds as the bike starts feeling wobbly at 55 kph. Replacing the front wheel immediately solved the problem. Heard similar reports from other owners. Hope the new generation of hookless rims is better. Also, Schwalbe is pronounced Shwol-buh (native speaker here).

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing mate and interesting to hear about the wobbles. I have not experiences that at 80kph,

@matthewk3233 2 года назад

Good to know the front wheel was the issue I have a 2019 and have had wobbles a few times. The last time was so scary

@darthchin888 Год назад

Nice video, I own a TCR and am in the process of changing the stock Giant tires to Continential GP5000 STR, hookless and tubeless compatible

@Ossipvdvegte 3 года назад

Hi Cam, what do you think about the idea that you review all the bikes with the same tires, at least in your segment comperesing. since tyre's can make a huge improvement. for example the difference between conti 5000 TL vs One tubeless, will be around 7 watts for both wheels. Let me know

@gudrune 3 года назад

Agreed. And I'd say same wheels and same tyres. "cheap" bikes come with shit wheels, and are commonly upgraded. My own giant propel came with horrendous hoops. Day and night with better wheels

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes I will be doing the triple headed review with the Winspace hypers and the same tyres.

@lionelhutz3170 2 года назад

Hi Cam. Great review, thanks. You mention in the review that it doesn’t “wow” you in the same was as say the SystemSix. Can you elaborate on this a bit? I’m deciding between these two bikes and hard to avoid the value for money of the Propel, but the SystemSix is just so fast and mega comfortable. Cheers mate.

@jarred406 3 года назад

Would you suggest the giant propel over the Merida reacto 600 for a new aero rider ?

@gabrielljx 3 года назад

Have you ever realised the seat post is slanted at the joint? I did some measurements to confirm it, went back to my giant distributor, they swapped out y seatpost but I still had the same issue

@markhyperst 3 года назад

Good unbiased review Cam. I have the 2020 version of the same model and the first thing I did was bin the stock tyres and put Pro Ones on. Second the comfort, done a few 100 mile rides now and it's not beaten me up. The roads are crap in the UK with loads of pot holes and this horrible surface dressing that they insist on doing during the summer.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Interesting to hear Mark, thanks for sharing on the thread

@goofyridersshop 3 года назад

So you have the gray one ? Absolutely love that color, bummer I did not buy that year.. now i cannot find it anywhere

@markhyperst 3 года назад

@@goofyridersshop yes, it's dark matt grey with the older hooked wheels.

@87togabito 2 года назад

I think that soft riding experience is inherent to giants 2020/21 family. The TCR 2021 is also superbly comfortable, which I suspect is why you find the 2020 propel more comfortable than the 2018 TCR.

@donschloth5785 3 года назад

Cam I’m a big fan of the Schwalbe Pro 1 tires! If you liked those you mounted on the Giant you may really enjoy the Pro 1

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Interesting to hear Don, I would have gotten those if the shop had them.

@jefferypowell1461 3 года назад

You should also check out the Pardus aero bike as well.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Will take a look, thanks for the tip Jeffery

@DeanPattrick 3 года назад

Great review/video Cam.! I took your advice and upgraded to the Schwalbe pro ones on my Propel, makes a big difference.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Great stuff Dean. Well played.

@scottwatson7844 3 года назад

Great review Cam I used to own a rim braked TCR Advanced pro 1 2018 and while I loved its speed and handling the ride for me was very unforgiven on the badly surfaced roads where I live but from what I'm led to believe about the new TCR is the ride is "far improved" though how true this is who knows.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing Scott, and yes - I do need to get my hands on the new TCR at some point.

@dalglish72p 2 года назад

Have to agree on ride comfort I believe my 2019 Propel is more comfortable than my 2021 TCR..

@db613 2 года назад

What is the widest tire that can be mounted? Will it fit 32c or 30c tires?

@REMODA92 3 года назад

Cam...as you have now reviewed and rode both the Merida Reacto 8000e and the Giant Propel..which one would you recommend ? Which one do you believe was more compliant ? I am seriously interested in buying the Reacto but now after watching your review of the Propel you have forced me to consider casting an eye over the Propel, even though I must admit the triangular stem on the Propel does spoil the aesthetics of the bike to some extent.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

In a week or so you’ll know 👍

@davemellor4697 3 года назад

Great review Cam,will be got to see all 3 bikes up against each other soon too.....

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers mate , waiting for a super low wind day to get them all out!

@buffaloj0e 3 года назад

Lol T2… I see what you did there, nice one.

@thatguy9051 3 года назад

Well thought out, excellent execution of information. Giant is a fool not to give you this bike for promoting it :). Cheers.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

haha, thanks Dan.

@kevinpunter7960 3 года назад

Hey Cam, I'd be very interested to know your opinion on tyre width on our Sunshine Coast roads. I'm probably going to get myself a pair of new Schwables and I'm teetering between 28 and 30. Consider Louis Bazzo, Cootharaba, McKinnon and Noosa - Cooroy roads. I should probably ad that my ideal choice would be Conti GP5000 but I'm not sure about those on the Giant tubeless rim setup.

@A55ass1nsri 3 года назад

Good review Cam. My only suggestion would be for you to test ride the new TCR Advanced (not SL) before drawing comparisons between the two. Also, you owned the TCR Adv SL which will definitely be a lot stiffer and lighter than the Propel Adv here. Cheers Mate!

@scottwatson7844 3 года назад

I agree with this as generally from my understanding the isp makes for a harsher ride as it doesn't flex as much.

@simonskeggs7284 3 года назад

Agree, my 2021 TCR Advanced is definitely more comfortable than my 2021 Propel, both shod with 28mm Pirelli P Zeros. Cheers

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Thanks mate, that is good feedback. To be honest though most of the softness came through the frontend, I personally found. But it would be interesting to gauge that one for sure.

@egemailme 2 года назад

Hi! Love your videos, would a size Small be to small for me? I’m 5.9” and currently ride a size 49cm Specialized Allez Sprint aluminum and I have never made the jump to a full carbon bike. Any advice would help.

@simpledude5974 2 года назад

Medium

@carlofino4666 3 года назад

8.6 kg is unbelievavbly heavy mate. Is that down simply to the disk brake system? I own a wilier 110 air, rim brake. 7.08 kg and I reckon I could get it below 7 if needed

@timsgarage1861 3 года назад

Its not the only brand with top tier bikes weighing in this high. I don't know whats going on with the manufactures but are we supposed to just go along with heavier more expensive bikes?

@djdelarosa25 3 года назад

8.6 kg is nearly as much as my XS Giant Contend 2 with Claris

@travisashimself2356 3 года назад

@@timsgarage1861 no. I'm not anyway.

@roejogan1759 3 года назад

🤣🤣

@MJarthur95 3 года назад

Giant & Trek make their bikes robust compared to Canyon. The Frames can take a huge beating, more material (heavier). That said, a mate got his Giant Propel Advance Disc to +-7.7 KG. He changed the stem & handlebar to a full carbon system, better/lighter tyres, Hunt 50/65 wheels and a couple of things.

@craziannn 3 года назад

Any chance you can get your hands on a Trek Madone SL/SLR to compare Cam? Also, could you do a Cadens vs Hyper wheels test?

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes I will try, I need to get the Caden 50s!

@craziannn 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls awesome! Love your content mate! Keep it up!

@boyacki Год назад

recommending tyres for the bin,love it! :D

@porodicnoblago5791 4 месяца назад

I have road bike with shimano tourney groupset. Its heavier bike.. if I buy this one will that improve my speeed. With my tourney i can reach speed 40kmh easily and average speed is 28-35kmh

@juanhuttoe4517 3 года назад

That's a gorgeous bike.

@foofamily8861 3 года назад

GIANT listed Schwalbe Pro One Tubeless tyre in their list of approved tyres for their hookless rims (SLR1 42MM). Is the Schwalbe One compatible with giant's hookless rims? What's the difference between the Schwalbe One from the Schwalbe Pro One?

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes, it's weight and rolling resistance. Pro One's will go faster but will probably flat easier too.

@foofamily8861 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls thanks much! Now at least I know of another schwalbe tyre that can be used on the slr1 wheels 😎👍

@nigelstanley3674 3 года назад

Great review. Very fair assessment. Thanks Cam

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers mate

@jascollinscork 3 года назад

Ooooh yess long time no see Cam!!! Been worth the wait though 😀 fantastic review!!! hope all is well!!! I’ll hope you can come to 🇮🇪 well all this COVID-19& lockdown crap is over!! What front chainrings are on it cam?? My BMC came with 50-34…… really annoying downhill!!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

I have 5 bikes as we speak so I’ve got a bit of everything going on! 52/36 is my normal go to

@erikgrnlund 3 года назад

Do you think it’s possible to reroute the cables through the bar and stem internally like on the propel 0?

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Not sure mate, that kinda stuff is not my expertise. I leave it to the mechanics! But if they could do it I would assume it would be done.

@LeonardTan 3 года назад

Good job in getting old mate for the sponsor's video. I hope the sponsor watch what you did which is funny and we'll executed. Keep it up! I own Wilier Cento 10 SL. Wheels come with it is super heavy. So manufacturer do expect us to upgrade the wheelset 1st which i did that can only bring it down to 8.2kg with paddles etc. If you have a chance, test the Wilier 10 SL.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers Leonard and thanks for sharing on the thread.

@brettrobertson2744 2 года назад

Love your work fella. Quick question - can get access to your spreadsheet summary? Solid gold info in that bad boy.

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

Stay tuned for the Wed video. I'll be sharing it then!

@nicolomunda4209 2 года назад

Hi! What's your height? Planning to purchase a 2nd hand Propel and it's a Medium Size too

@eliotwolfert8488 3 года назад

1 by for road probs effects your experience more than a difference between 400 series carbon and 600

@MrGreen-qr5pe Год назад

My dream bike

@paulfromberkshire2891 3 года назад

Hi Cam, check out Doug DeMuro’s car reviews and his Doug scores at the end. Could be a good idea for comparing your bike reviews side by side for us. Love the channel.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Will do mate, cheers.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Just had a look, so it's really comparing to the others on a list? I see he's added in some more variables too. I have questioned 'style' or aesthetics, but Ive let it out as I feel it's personal. I appreciate this feedback, I also enjoy seeing how the car RU-vidrs do it. They lead from the front!

@ALana-wy5ql 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls also please take notes on how Doug starts a video THIIIIZZZZZ is the 2021 Giant Propel Advanced

@earicm40 3 года назад

i wonder would canyon aeroad fall into this category

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes, they have an equivalent for $5900 AUD, with better wheels

@luant16 3 года назад

Since you have owned both, can you tell the riding experience between tcr & propel.. they both share the same geometry (only top tube shape difference).. many people torn between 2 when deciding to buy giant.. i personally tried tcr and love it but havent tried propel before..

@andrewb6541 3 года назад

hey mate - I have both TCR&Propel in the top SL spec frames....Cam is comparing the TCR SL (top spec) Vs Propel(Adv 1 spec - lower grade carbon) - I understand his conclusion as the propel frame is not the same high spec stiff carbon as on his old yellow TCR.....for me I've noticed very little difference between them stiffness wise but the Propel is definitely faster to ride on the flats/rolling....given similar overall bike weights.

@hippoace 3 года назад

@@andrewb6541 Which is better in a sprint? Say, from a traffic light stop and back to cruising rolling speed...

@pvj9289 3 года назад

I own a Propel.. with a decent pair of tyres, this bike is killing it on flat roads.. fast and furios..

@andrewb6541 3 года назад

@@hippoace I'm only a 1100W rider but the propel feels stiffer (only a little bit more) than the TCR.

@JuanRivera-wg8iv 3 года назад

Excellent review!

@indonesiaamerica7050 2 года назад

How are you riding a medium Giant? How tall are you? I'm looking at an ML and wonder if I should bother checking it out if it weighs close to 9 kilos. I wonder if a Propel frame can take Tarmac SL7 components (like stem and wheels)?

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

I am 179cm on a medium. Not sure about the Tarmac

@indonesiaamerica7050 2 года назад

@@CamNicholls I see. For some reason I thought you tested a Venge and Tarmac in 56 cm but my memory must be faulty. Thanks. I'd like to try a medium but I think reach would be a problem for me. I'd also like to change the stem on that Propel...so maybe I'll look at framesets or wait for the new Scultura.

@0xDEFACE 2 года назад

Will 30mm tire fit? I didn't understand which tires from your link suit at all? Great review, thanks!

@scottgilmour37 2 года назад

The Giant rims are hookless, you've swapped these for Shwabble tires and tubes, correct? Any issues or concerns with this?

@williammajor3782 2 года назад

Great video, Cam! Do you know if it’s still possible to buy the bike in this colour way (black/reflective black)? I’m located in Europe and can’t seem to find it anywhere online 😕

@Cyclingchoice 3 года назад

Please review Scott Foil when you get hold of one!

@GOLTEB 3 года назад

Gorgeous looking bike!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes I agree, they've done well with it

@nickthedane1 2 года назад

I Think you mention the Giant tires being bad, i have the same bike and cant get those tires to seat onto the rims, what tires do you use on your propel.

@goofyridersshop 3 года назад

Since you were talking about tyres, can this bike fit a 28mm (if yes what brand/model of tyre). 2nd question would be: what aero bikes can fit a 32mm (are there any) ? thank you for all the great videos! PS: what do you think of the 2022 advanced 1 disc with etap rival ?

@0bihoernchen 3 года назад

The Orbea OMX has it's tire clearance rated for 32mm.

@pvj9289 3 года назад

Yes.. I have one.. riding 28 mm Conti 5000 front and back.. you can even fit 30 mm..

@MeMurphy10Feb 3 года назад

@@pvj9289 same 28's Schwalbe One's feel great

@benglover6019 3 года назад

Yup I ride 28 pirelli p-zeros

@mtwhrj Год назад

Polygon Helios new frame could fitted to 32mm tyres

@AdamEwart 3 года назад

Nice review mate. May I suggest an upgrade in the bicycle weigh bridge location department? Surely there is a low hanging tree branch or something more suited than the twisted ankle waiting to happen couch and brick wall arrangement?? 😄

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

haha, Yes I need to work on that one

@global_nomad. 3 года назад

wondering if that comfort comes from the carbon handlebars and stem - noticed a huge improvement when i switched from alu to carbon on my old bmc..

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

I think it plays a slight factor but there's definitely softness in the frame.

@jctan4834 2 года назад

Hi how do you feel for specialized allez sprint and propel advanced? I m allez sprint owner and thinking to upgrade to propel advanced disc

@gabrielljx 3 года назад

Mine is 9kg including bottle cages,lights,a mini carbon pump and bike com

@cliffordchaperon6795 3 года назад

more old mate - he keeps it all fun & real

@benjaminanderson8282 3 года назад

first edit: love the videos, keep it up

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers mate

@benjaminanderson8282 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls no probs

@basedgodstrugglin 3 года назад

Because I’m vain I’d go for the TCR because it looks better, but the Propel is such a cool bike

@ynotfishing 3 года назад

would love to hear what you think about the Cervelo Caledonia 5

@shibaburn7725 3 года назад

I applaud you purchasing your own gear for testing. There's very few non-shill cycling channels.

@patrickparisienne1917 3 года назад

Great review!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Cheers Patrick

@dhruvpadodara9084 2 года назад

Hi i loved the review had a question regarding giant vs specialized tarmac Sl7 and trek slr7 what are you thoughts on these bikes?

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

Haven’t ridden them! Yet.

@stokesyperth 3 года назад

One would say that the Propel Advanced is a 3rd tier bike. The Advanced SL being tier 1 and the Advanced Pro being tier 2.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Their two frame set I should have said

@brownhorse70 3 года назад

How many bikes do you have now Cam?!😀. Ever thought of off-loading a few and get a nice TT rig? You never touched on the TT area yet!

@hippoace 3 года назад

I think timeline wise (3-5yrs) the Propel is due for an update to its frame....maybe next year?

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

2023 I reckon

@Williamchan87 3 года назад

Actually the 2022 is with SRAM components, frame wise it's similar though I'd you guys are interested I can send link of the 2022 list

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes, I am taking about the frame set. They get updated every year with something new on them.

@Williamchan87 3 года назад

I'm actually disappointed on the new drivetrain choice of SRAM rival etap AXS but also more expensive, based on TWD to CAD the 2020 is suppose to be $4400 but new one is $5200

@sydemoid 3 года назад

Hmmmm, great video!…. Have you ridden this with the winspace hyper wheels?- I’d be interested in your input with that combo 😉

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Coming

@kaushikiyer3859 3 года назад

My Cinelli Man-Machine bike from 2010 with alloy Seatpost, alloy stem & bars with 2010 Campy Centaur & Zonda wheels weighs 8.5kgs. Now how do manufacturers get 10yrs and a full carbon everything manage to get the weight the same as something a decade old?

@c4p3fi3rr 3 года назад

The current bike design trend is to prioritize aerodynamic shapes over weight reduction. If you notice, all the bikes marketed as "aero" have these thick and non round tubes that supposedly decrease aerodynamic drag. The lighter bikes marketed as "lightweight/climbing/racing/altitude" have skinnier tubes and are usually very close to the UCI weight limit of 6.8kg. New bikes also have disc brakes that weigh about 0.3-0.5kg more than equivalent bikes with rim brakes. One thing that gets me thinking is that, when you watch the world tours, these "aero" thingies are nowhere to be seen: teams usually employ the "lightweight" bikes for stages and TT bikes for the TTs. Almost as if these "aero" bikes are specifically marketed towards well off amateurs...

@kaushikiyer3859 3 года назад

@@c4p3fi3rr I'm well aware & understand the AERO & Disc trend, my points is where has been all the development & advancement in carbon tech over the last decade which is much acclaimed by the bike industry for which they're charging a hefty premium. My fear is bike industry is becoming more of marketing and less of real manufacturing improvements. Also there's really loss of trust because of stuff being launched and pushed without it being niggle free. All this research & study they keep finding is equally questionable, since it always cycles back to something from decades earlier. in the 80s they used to have wider tyres which was made to look idiotic and less efficient with thinner tyre trend in the 90s and 2000s and now again "Wider is Better"! Builders used to combine different tube types to make the ride more comfortable, which was shown to be less efficient and Stiffness was King. Today all manufacturers boast of using different lay-up to balance Comfort & stiffness. When you look at this in retrospect it comes across as a lot of schmuck & clever marketing than real development!

@ryangolder705 3 года назад

Wonder what old mate reckons about the weight of the Propel. He’d 100% have some thoughts

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

hahaha, 'bloody ridiculous', I reckon.

@Shceif78 3 года назад

Hey cam! Love the vids! Bit of an off question but have you broken your collarbone b4? I just have, hit a car and flipped over the bars. I’m shattered! If you have how long did it take you get back on bike? 😊

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Hey Simon, thanks for the support. Sorry to hear that, how very frustrating. I have never broken a bone fortunately. Good luck with the recovery and the indoor trainer should be a good way to start getting your fitness back.

@Shceif78 3 года назад

Ah yes!!great idea! Thanks for your response Cam! 👍

@mhejiy 3 года назад

Check the pardus robin evo, or pardus spark evo

@onthemoveot 3 года назад

Another great review mate. I have a 2018 Defy advanced pro. Came with 25mm AC1s as per this spec. After talking my better half into making a big bike purchase like this for quite some years I was so underwhelmed. I actually wanted to go back to my 2012 azzurri! I totally put the bike’s sluggish and heavy feel down to the bike. Then put some 28mm Vitorria Corsa G+ on. Massive difference ++. New bike feel and one relieved punter👍 But Giant shouldn’t be dragging their excellent bike quality and value down with these rubbish tyres, I don’t get it.

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing mate and interesting to hear. Yes, I agree. It's strange .

@stephenkelli517 Год назад

Ibought this same bike 2 years ago never had a puncher these tyres have done over 10 ooo km great bike

@jochentress4357 2 года назад

You really mean that the Propel is much more comfortable as the tcr? How is that possible?

@Panos_Sfa_Gr 2 года назад

Nice review mate.. i am interested for this 2021 model...please can you tell me what is the frame size you bought..is it M/L? and what is your height? thanks

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

Medium I bought and I’m 179

@Panos_Sfa_Gr 2 года назад

@@CamNicholls thanks for the reply mate...agh found online a M/L one but I'm 1.80cm/85cm inseam and very afraid the size will be big for me..keep the good work and enjoy the nice family

@Tim_McMurray 3 года назад

Old mate and all the other comedy Cam characters are great, very funny! backwards hat Cam? Seems the Propel is pretty good, but suffers with porky weight like most disc brake aero bikes out there. Can you get a Ridley Noah from FE sports to review? the are up your way.

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

Love to mate, but I am overwhelmed with bike projects as we speak.

@julienrobert3938 3 года назад

You did improve your prononciation of Schwalbe ,😂😂😂

@Keule_from_Mars 3 года назад

He did!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

haha, I'm still not there

@RohitPal-lr9qx 2 года назад

@cam can you please do a review video on canyon aeroad 🙏

@adam65407 2 года назад

Good value but the wheels compatibility issue.

@messi9991 2 года назад

Oh wow there is a tier list of aero frames? Where can one find it?

@CamNicholls 2 года назад

I don't think there is a list. Some manufacturers create a lower spec'd frame

@melvinredondo5439 3 года назад

Hi Cam i love this kind of content special with your rating break down. Im from Philippines 🇵🇭 and im riding a reacto. There's a new bike in the industry called Devel Project (Philippine brand), its really under rated in terms of the paint, stiffness and the value for money. We would love if you can make a review on Devel roadbikes. I'm really happy with my reacto but I'm thinking to try a Devel Roadbikes. Thank you in advance!

@CamNicholls 3 года назад

Yes I have heard about this bike. It's in my mind but would be a while off with everything going on. I think Chris Miller Cycling has done some reviews on it.

@melvinredondo5439 3 года назад

@@CamNicholls yeah i watched that one with Chris Miller. But i kind of like and respect your contents more, no offense to him. I find no bias with your reviews. Keep up the good work!