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Gibson Les Paul R9 refinish. PART 1 [How to remove Gibson factory lacquer] 

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New project. This time, a 2019 Gibson Customshop R9 was brought to my workshop. Factory Gibson nitro lacquer is as always sticky, soft and thick. In addition, it became pink and dirty in the binding area. And this is not correct. Therefore, the factory soft nitro lacquer will be completely removed and the guitar will receive a new coating with the correct hard nitro lacquer with a beautiful relic. For this project, I'll be using lacquers and stains from NITORLACK, a company that makes amazing materials for finishing guitars. I have already tested all the materials that they sent me and you can see the results in the previous videos.
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@GrovesGuitars
@GrovesGuitars Год назад
This is the reason Historic Makeovers, and many other refinishers, have a thriving business. Keep up the good work Gibson, you’re keeping hundreds of people in employment that don’t actually work for you..😎👍
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
😁
@strawsparky33
@strawsparky33 Год назад
hater much?
@SDPickups
@SDPickups Год назад
Amen to THAT!!!!
@GrovesGuitars
@GrovesGuitars Год назад
@@strawsparky33 and I’ll let you in on another secret. That “old brown glue” they use to glue the maple to the mahogany, nothing like the phenyl formaldehyde they used on the 50’s. Stays soft, will never set like glass like the pf glue.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 Год назад
@@GrovesGuitarsDo you want a glue to dry hard as glass? Isn’t a bit of flexibility better for durability?
@nickk9285
@nickk9285 Год назад
So back in 2019 l buy the all new R9 from the all new Gibson Company, my 2019 R9 was suppose to be the closest thing to a real 59 “The Holy Grail” ….. After seeing you strip that 2019 R9 all that plasticiser “lm shaking my head with disgust” My R9 will never ever age naturally like a real 59. So Really nothing has changed at Gibson .. Thank you for the enlightenment, very educational and very much appreciated …….
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@iagobroxado
@iagobroxado Год назад
I think you still could say the R9 was the closest guitar to a real 1959 Gibson itself had made.
@Tonskiislegit
@Tonskiislegit Год назад
If you want the closest to closet you need a Murphy lab. They use the same nitro as they did in 59.
@cosmocalypse3708
@cosmocalypse3708 Год назад
A brand new 59 in 1959 had sticky lacquer as well.. Don't fall for the hype. "Plasticizer" has always been in the nitro. Those real 59s are over 60 years old now. They didn't look that aged in only a couple years.
@flamedmahoganytable9749
@flamedmahoganytable9749 Год назад
@@Tonskiislegit do we know that for sure?
@loopie007
@loopie007 Год назад
I am shocked at how much plasticizer is in the paint used on that R9. Gibson advertises how they still use Nitro as a finish, but it looks like they use plastic paint to give the guitar its color, then cover it with a thin coat of nitro to give it that nitro feel/smell. I need to do more homework on this.
@dglvt7383
@dglvt7383 Год назад
Maybe the guy on the paint machine had a bad day putting all the ingredients together :D
@guitarflyer172
@guitarflyer172 Год назад
Satisfying and heart breaking at the same time. I've got a 60th Anniv. R9 and its sad to know its painted like this. Your technique and workmanship was very satisfying. Great video!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@mp-ov9dh
@mp-ov9dh Год назад
This is why im a fan of the Faded finishes with half the laquer.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Agree
@jordimateubartroli951
@jordimateubartroli951 5 месяцев назад
At least you know what you are getting
@deepzzzz
@deepzzzz Год назад
The control you have done with the heat gun, avoiding burnt spots, is impresive. Congrats!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. Nitro lacquer softens quite easily with temperature. If it is too hot, then it starts to burn much faster than wood. That's why I always check the temperature by hand. But with polyester varnish it is more difficult, as it softens at a higher temperature. And there is a risk of overheating the wood.
@geraldponce8336
@geraldponce8336 Год назад
That was amazing. R9s are beautiful guitars just for $10k I am not really missing out on much when my home builds sound just as good for $2k.
@stevencancel1727
@stevencancel1727 Год назад
I like when you used the acetone on the top, it looks so beautiful with the finish removed
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Год назад
Honestly, it's beautiful without any stain!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@italianbirdvideos6190
@italianbirdvideos6190 Год назад
The balls this guy has. Acetone to an R9. Huge.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
😁😁👍
@johnhanda7970
@johnhanda7970 Год назад
If Gibson CS have put a coat of nitro lacquer like you use on VOS R9s, some of those paints might be cracked before someone buy. and some guitar shops would send those guitars back to Gibson as defective product. So I think Gibson is not wrong, they just choose an efficient manufacturing rather than similar replica.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
maybe.
@Nghilifa
@Nghilifa Год назад
That's correct. Fender does the same thing. It's simply impossible to make a guitar with a super thin coat of nitro with no (or very little) plasticisers in it and have it arrive at a dealer without some kind of stuff having happened to the finish. That would be prohibitively expensive for the end user (us).
@renmad0078
@renmad0078 Год назад
The pink hairs of some guitar cases cause this kind of reaction on contact with nitrocellulose varnishes. I changed the case after sanding and revarnishing the guitar with nitro varnish and in the new case I no longer had this problem. Nitro varnishes are very sensitive to certain chemical reactions with certain materials, such as certain guitar support foams as well. It is always necessary to monitor after a few days if this phenomenon is not observed. If it starts to happen then it is better to change the element that is in contact with the nitro varnish and look for another that will not have this reaction.
@lyinking1998
@lyinking1998 Год назад
This needs more views. Great video.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you!
@f33fifofum
@f33fifofum Год назад
This is such a great video, haven't seen a refin like this on RU-vid before
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@thestrum71
@thestrum71 Год назад
Can't wait for the rest! Will look awesome I'm sure!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@eshkakogan75
@eshkakogan75 Год назад
Great video! Thank you for sharing. After watching you work I’m glad I only bought a 2019 Traditional and not a high dollar CS. And probably never will.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@OkomailkakJR907
@OkomailkakJR907 11 дней назад
So far this had been my favorite project of yours and have been wondering how much a guitar like this would cost from you.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 10 дней назад
Thank you. 8bombcustom@gmail.com
@aipsong
@aipsong Год назад
You always give us such good information, and the quality of your videos is top notch - spaciba Bolshoi!!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you!
@BlueberryStinkFinger62
@BlueberryStinkFinger62 29 дней назад
I have videos of my 2021 Epiphone custom koa Les Paul with the specs also posted so there is no debate or arguments..it's discontinued recently I would not sell it for any Gibson..great video I subbed
@clutch2827
@clutch2827 Месяц назад
The giggling while peeling was hilarious.
@jfiery
@jfiery Год назад
Wow! Excellent video man. I had no clue. To perhaps give the new ownership an out, the new models were introduced mid 2019 so maybe this is an earlier model? That or it took a period of time to adjust the formula. I have a 2020 USA LP and while I'm sure there is plasticizers in the nitro it certainly hasn't helped mine from easily scratching, denting and starting to check. I also didn't have the dye running into the binding. Additionally the cherry on the neck on mine is starting to fade noticeably behind the frets where I play the most. Maybe mine has a different formula or the CS uses a different type or the formula was adjusted at some point between new ownership and mid 2020 when mine was made. Whatever the deal is this is an excellent demonstration of how it ideally should NOT be done.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@marfg12345
@marfg12345 Год назад
My 2023 USA 335 already has a few checking lines on the neck.
@These_go_to_eleven_1959
@These_go_to_eleven_1959 9 месяцев назад
Someone that works in the Gibson CS had said that the reason they use this type of Nitro is so that the guitars that are shipped to the dealers as Standard CS models will not have any finish cracking before hand. This Nitro will harden over time and become brittle with age just like the old originals. Custom shop guitars can be ordered with finish checking from the start and these use a different Nitro.Anyone that orders a "Murphy Lab" gets the more brittle nitro with age checking. Gibson does not want dealers to be sending back R9's or any Custom shop model due to finish checking the customers did not want.Those that want the checking have to order a Murphy lab.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 9 месяцев назад
Naturally this is true. Factory production is always reinsured. Most new guitar buyers love the glossy, shiny finish. Like a new car. Those who want an aged look pay extra to Murphy Lab. But this still does not change the fact that soft and thick varnish on a standard custom shop kills resonance. But unfortunately they can’t make guitars any other way.
@rockinguitar101
@rockinguitar101 Год назад
It makes me worried that I have a R9 about the same, in factory burst. Late 2019 I drove up to Sweetwater to buy it because it was the last batch of the 60th anniversary of the 59. no problems with it but it does have a lot of red die bleed on to the binding. another great video Alex and rock and roll for all.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@Ger360Master
@Ger360Master Год назад
That red dye bleed is intentional as original '59s had it too to some extent. They apparently went a bit overboard on some of the new reissues.
@justinhaskell5502
@justinhaskell5502 Год назад
Wow. Your attention to detail is impressive. Love this channel.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@waskerbasket9601
@waskerbasket9601 Год назад
Looks better natural. I’m not even a flame top guy.
@Bluesruse
@Bluesruse 11 месяцев назад
9:00 Them chuckles not sure whether to cry or to laugh. Great job on that guitar btw.
@alihabibzadeh4451
@alihabibzadeh4451 Год назад
Это было очень подробно и точно. Мне очень нравится это видео и твоя работа и то, как артистично ты вкладываешь время в свои гитары. Это было очень элегантно, а также поучительно для меня, и я надеюсь, что вы скоро опубликуете вторую часть. Спасибо за это ваше видео на RU-vid.♥♥♥♥ (Я использовал Google Translate для этого текста)
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. The next episode will be out soon. The translator translated very correctly.
@darthsensei3838
@darthsensei3838 Год назад
That’s why I sold mine. It felt plastic like. I got one with the Brazilian board and the finish was much better.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Maybe for such specific guitars (with Brazilian fretboard) gibson used other lacquer. I don't know. I have heard that necks with Brazilian rosewood manufactured for Gibson in China.
@darthsensei3838
@darthsensei3838 Год назад
@@8BombCustom def not China. I know someone in the custom shop. Most if not all the Brazilian boards are very old and left over from a long while ago. Was sad about the current reissues and their “feel” though.
@FuriousMess
@FuriousMess 11 месяцев назад
that heat gun removes that lacquer like on the Fenders I've done with their poly paints. It's better than sanding at least
@hkguitar1984
@hkguitar1984 11 месяцев назад
Amazing amount of plasticizers in the finish. Being a 2019 Model I wonder if newer Gibson CS use the actual Aniline Dye on the wood. It would also be interesting to see an actual vintage Gibson finish stripped to see the differences. Great Content, Thank You
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 11 месяцев назад
Thank you
@drzainnas
@drzainnas Год назад
Thank you you so much for sharing your experience, I think it's not the fault of the Gibson workers because they have been told to have high production figures and they are under the pressure. However the quality department should have dealt with these issues , this raise a red tag and a lot of concerns. But again this is the century of every about figures not quality. That's why in my opinion it is much better supporting a trustworthy small luthier businesses and encourage them and they will definitely do their best work and you are are my friend such a talented skilled knowledgeable luthier and please share your contact details so we can cooperate in the future. Keep the good work going please. Thank you. 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you!
@robbysguitars8223
@robbysguitars8223 Год назад
The analine dye on the binding is a feature of the R9, because the real 59's had the same bleed on the binding.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
No. None of the originals I've seen in detailed photos or held in hand had such a wild effect on the binding.
@TeleCaster66
@TeleCaster66 Год назад
To each thier own, I would have left it alone and just played it.
@TeleCaster66
@TeleCaster66 Год назад
I do agree that the finish they are using is a little disappointing, I'd rather just have old-school nitro even if it cracks and so forth. On another note, there are tooling marks on the side of the headstock of my 2019 Les Paul Special Original Series (great guitar) which I've seen people complain about, and I get it, but on the other hand I remember at age 19 or 20 back in the mid 80's I almost bought an original Gibson double neck like Page played and couldn't believe how bad the fit and finish were, looked quite crude in some areas and that shows me that that's how Gibson's could be even back then. I just ignore the little things I guess and play them.
@SDPickups
@SDPickups Год назад
GREAT VIDEO! When you watch video of Gibson employees spraying their plastic lacquer on these guitars, notice how they do not use face masks at all. Its probably because the lacquer is more acrylic and NOT toxic fumes.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you Dave. I noticed that In Gibson fatory don't used breath mask. Perhaps this is due to the mega strong hood. But I think with poisonous nitro the safety technique is strictly prescribed.
@santiagomujica-vh3kx
@santiagomujica-vh3kx 3 месяца назад
It is normal. This is the reason that tells over an original Gibson guitar must be. A real Gibson with binding.
@blakespurlock5322
@blakespurlock5322 Год назад
Hey that English is improving sir! Nice job. 👍 thank you for all of the awesome videos that maintain the history of these guitars!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@plexibreath
@plexibreath Год назад
Great video! I'm surprised the acetone didn't eat through the binding.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. The binding deluted mor slowly than lacquer
@youtubecommentor4480
@youtubecommentor4480 20 дней назад
At 7:15 you peel away the nitro lacquer that has much plasticizer in it. It would be great if you could make a video where you attempt to peel away Nitorlack only to show its brittleness. It would be a good comparison between the two types of lacquer. Thank you Dr. Nitro.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 19 дней назад
@@youtubecommentor4480 thank you. It all on my Patreon were I publish fool versions of videos about relic process.
@youtubecommentor4480
@youtubecommentor4480 16 дней назад
@@8BombCustom … Ok, thank you Dr. Nitro.
@jltrem
@jltrem Год назад
At 13:20 the "2001: A Space Odyssey" breathing begins.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
😁
@dejadejayoutube
@dejadejayoutube Год назад
wow, if this hasn't broken the internet yet:),...im used to corners being cut by the "great American instrument manufacturers" ,...but on an R9, holy sh#t,... what an embarrassment. , wonderful video again 👍 ,im so glad ive never pulled the trigger on one of these yet. I've always appreciated your honesty on Custom Shop Fenders too.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. In my opinion Fender meke better CS guitars (i mean painting and relic )
@Robdoesguitar
@Robdoesguitar Год назад
The more I see of Gibson the more I appreciate my Epiphone '59😂
@Banjoandguns
@Banjoandguns Год назад
I have a 2018 r8 that looks to be painted like this. The binding It’s turning red and pink everywhere. Like the comment below mine my heart breaks watching this. I spent good money on a dream
@bradt.3555
@bradt.3555 Месяц назад
I knew that Gibson had put a lot of plasticizers in it's nitro when I ran my hand up n down the neck of my 2007 R8 and heard static crackle thru the amp. Like rubbing my finger tips on a strat pickguard. My older Gibson and my PRS (that's nitro) don't do this. Still a nice guitar and honestly the wood and how it's cured is more important than finish. How thick the finish is is much more important than what it is. A poly finish is just fine if it's THIN. At least the finish on my R8 is so thin that the grain still shows thru.
@Dam0n11
@Dam0n11 Год назад
Wow such an expensive guitar with a plastic bag for finish
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Yea. It always disappointing.
@JeremiahL
@JeremiahL 3 месяца назад
You just got a new subscriber... Amazing.
@JeremiahL
@JeremiahL 3 месяца назад
What kind of knife is that? Is that a scalpel...?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 3 месяца назад
@@JeremiahL ophthalmic scalpel
@OptimisticMansion-yl1wq
@OptimisticMansion-yl1wq 3 месяца назад
I have two Murphy Lab guitars - a ‘57 Goldtop Les Paul and a Cherry 🍒 335. The finish on the 335 is falling off. The guitar plays and sounds great. But, the finish is just flaking off without even touching it. I’m assuming Gibson is using plasticizers on regular Custom Shop guitars for a reason. They know half of them will be returned due to finish issues if they didn’t use plasticizers. However, I’m sure if anyone complains about the finish coming off a Murphy Lab, Gibson will just say - that’s exactly how the originals were - It’s authentic.
@rediryou
@rediryou Год назад
I didn't know you could heat Nitro off with a gun like that? That technique is typically used with Polyester finishes.
@waskerbasket9601
@waskerbasket9601 Год назад
What happened to putting Hollywood on the face of the head stock?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Holly wood has a very smooth texture and is very dense and resilient, almost like bamboo. This veneer provides additional protection against breakage of the headstock. Now instead of it they use plastic that eats sound. But on Customshops still use holly.
@davew8542
@davew8542 Год назад
I’m amazed how easy that came off on the back and sides. Great video look forward to seeing the porgress
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@alexhutton4848
@alexhutton4848 Год назад
I really enjoy this channel . Can you please add audio clips of the guitars you review . I hope to build guitars like these one day . Thank you Dr Nitro
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. I will make demo on Part 3
@woka62
@woka62 Год назад
I cannot believe my eyes!
@PatatoKeftes
@PatatoKeftes Год назад
Ok I see a lot of comments by people who clearly can use some insight. The aniline dye stains on plastics and binding is not due to a faulty finishing process. The dye migrates by rubbing off by playing, fingers, hands, everyday use. The lacquer also takes weeks to completely cure which lets the dye migrate for a period of time. And for a small period of time, the more you use the guitar the worse the dye bleed will get. These stains and the whole phenomenon will eventually fade in a matter of months of normal use or in a matter of days if the guitar is regularly exposed to sunlight. Vintage guitars do not have that migration effect because it has faded long long ago. There are plenty of reasons why someone whould like to refinish his guitar, and that's perfectly fine. But doing it so that the dye stains are removed is not a legit reason. Just let the thing in the sun for 3-4 days and the problem is gone.
@FYPAnimations
@FYPAnimations Год назад
Really great work. Can’t wait for next instalment. New sub.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@concernedcitizen939
@concernedcitizen939 Год назад
I wonder, if you heat up any guitar finish, will it become softer and more compliant until it returns to room temp?
@jasonmccann257
@jasonmccann257 Год назад
It depends on the guitar. I've seen some guitar bodies split in half at the glue seam while trying to remove the finish.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Allmost any lacquers become softer with heat. When they cold then they become a normal harness.
@ChubToneGuitars
@ChubToneGuitars Год назад
The wood can’t Breath🙈This guitar is going to Roar💥
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
👍
@LA-zc9rg
@LA-zc9rg Год назад
It’s a guitar & a damn good one at that play the damn thing it’s not wall art.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@dada1952
@dada1952 Год назад
Chill out!
@LA-zc9rg
@LA-zc9rg Год назад
@@dada1952 You must be a cork sniffer.
@alexandrufatu573
@alexandrufatu573 Год назад
keep it up man!hope im gonna get the money for a pair of pick-ups🤘🏼🤘🏼.keep the good work goin!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@michiel34a
@michiel34a Год назад
Just wondering, is it just Gibson that does plastified nitro paintjobs or do the other companies do this as well?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
All companies do this. Hard nitros are very rarely used and only in custom shop lines.
@clovergrass9439
@clovergrass9439 Год назад
Looks like a factory second from Gibson, wow. Seeing the ring hit the top of the guitar a few times made me nervous.
@gearmeister
@gearmeister Год назад
I subscribed because you know what you are doing. The guitar natural color is beautiful without all that ugly red. Thank you
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@GuitarQuackery
@GuitarQuackery Год назад
I like your skills.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@therollband1290
@therollband1290 Год назад
Wow! Very impressive work my man!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@jasonulrich3818
@jasonulrich3818 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video. Gonna remove paint on my Jr. What was that tool you used to lift paint after you used heat gun?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 9 месяцев назад
Thank you. I use surgical small scalpel (ophthalmic)
@littlefury
@littlefury Год назад
Holy cow, I feel better about my lowly USA Les Paul Standard, which has the same finish, but for 3 times less money.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
👍
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
@@zorglubmagnus455 😁 it's regular Gibson nitro like on all others models.
@azt3ca
@azt3ca Год назад
Would be nice to show how your finish reacts when stripped with a heat gun, as a comparison I mean.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
It was in previous video
@williamnapolitano1550
@williamnapolitano1550 Год назад
you a good man
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@qua7771
@qua7771 8 месяцев назад
It looks like Gibson uses as many cost saving methods as posible, even on their most expensive guitars. Maybe they started with poly sand, and seal, then sprayed nitro. Ae we know, nitro soaks into the wood. If they didn't allow for adiquate dry time, the colors would me more likely to bleed.
@sanychbass
@sanychbass Год назад
15:25 nice Gibson studio faded)))
@artielukas888
@artielukas888 Год назад
Have been waiting for this for a while! Thank you!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@grimngory1
@grimngory1 6 месяцев назад
I've seen better finish on a chibson how did that leave the factory
@keef4937
@keef4937 Год назад
I wonder if the finish is flexible like that to stop people relic-ing their own guitars with the hot/cold checking treatment because Gibson would prefer they buy a Murphy Lab model. ??? What do you think?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Yes, it's possible. If you want a relic, you have to pay 😁
@dlewtweentorla1210
@dlewtweentorla1210 Год назад
Curious to know if Gibson uses the same lacquer on the true historic and Murphy Lab Guitars, any idea? Figured this was the case with the lower end Gibson Guitars, using some form of Nitro hybrid. Going through a tour of the Fender Corona Factory was told they can only use a small percentage of "Real Nitro" because of meeting government standards (limits) for waste and emissions. Thanks again for the video, great work as always.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. People said that real nitro used in Murphy Lab, butthat what i seen last month was disappointing. Anyway i think they use different nitro but still not on all Murphy Lab guitars. I want to believe 😁
@avd-wd9581
@avd-wd9581 Год назад
Isn't the wood supposed to be dyed to achieve the desired color and then lacquered? What am I missing here? Gibson doesn't do that?
@bjstein4242
@bjstein4242 Год назад
Fantastic and clean job.. my only question is the heavy use of Acetone .. do you find any damage to the binding in such use? when attaching binding you really dont need much to get it to melt.. perhaps the flash time is enough and your contact time is short to prevent any such damage to the existing binding.. your process is fantastic.. love your vids
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. Nitro dissolves faster than plastic, so this is not a problem. Enough time to wash off the varnish and not damage the binding. But sometimes a vintage Royalite binder after acetone becomes brittle and small cracks may appear in the future. But for a relic it's ok.
@reddsshaker3477
@reddsshaker3477 Год назад
Some of these commenters have no idea what they’re talking about…..”Gibson should be ashamed of themselves for falsely calling their finish nitrocellulose”. 🤦🏻‍♂️ A plasticized lacquer finish can absolutely be genuine nitrocellulose lacquer. Gibson, as well as many other manufacturers, simply add a flex additive to the nitro lacquer. I do the very same thing with my own custom nitro lacquer finishes, just not as much as Gibson adds. If you want a crack-free lacquer finish for years to come, you add plasticizer. If you want cracks within the first year, you use 100% straight nitro lacquer. It’s really as simple as that.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Год назад
How much does a refinish devalue an original Les Paul Deluxe from the 70s, if it was done good?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
1200 euro
@pedrojintan7407
@pedrojintan7407 Год назад
Dear what I can do, my ESP les paul dusted the allen key socket in truss rod, what can I do to recover the fitting . Thanks
@Supertuber1983
@Supertuber1983 3 месяца назад
What did you use to remove the finish? Was that acetone? Does this not melt the bindings?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 3 месяца назад
You will find about all the materials that I use and about all the nuances of working with them on my Patreon in the Maker level www.patreon.com/8bombcustom
@prog-frog
@prog-frog Год назад
Hi! This is exactly the tutorial im looking for thanks! I do have a question though, is it possible to only remove the top nitro with acetone and then refinish it without messing up the back and the binding?
@jasonmccann257
@jasonmccann257 Год назад
Yes, you can that is how I strip LP's...I don't trust myself with a heat gun lol. Just be very careful, even more careful around the binding Have alot of clean cloth rags, and lots of acetone. Gibson uses plasticized lacquer, and a thick vinyl sealer underneath. It's amazing once you get all that off, how resonant the guitar becomes.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
To remove nitro only of the top is difficult while acetone very fluid.
@GraniteSoundtrack
@GraniteSoundtrack Год назад
Funny, isn’t that “thin real nitro” a big selling point for the custom Gibsons? That fruit by the foot doesn’t seem more resonant and musical.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
It is nitro but it is not hard and not thin. About 0.30mm. I make nitro layer 0.13 mm.
@williamking576
@williamking576 Год назад
Where is the Holly wood headstock veneer? Did they not use it on early Gibsons? It looks like the headstock was just painted black.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
All CS Gibsons is with Holly on the headstock. It was here too. 12:15
@bukwok
@bukwok Год назад
so you take the headstock gold les paul silk screen off, im very interesting to see how you remake golden les paul silk screen, hope have headstock side by side to compare when you finish the guitar , is silk screen right, i think i watched some gibson factory video some years ago it was silk screen.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Usualy I use silkscreen frame vith true vintage logo.
@ciri151
@ciri151 4 месяца назад
Why did the acetone not melt the binding?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 4 месяца назад
You will find about all the materials that I use and about all the nuances of working with them on my Patreon in the Maker level www.patreon.com/8bombcustom
@pharmerdavid1432
@pharmerdavid1432 Год назад
It's sad that Fender and Gibson went to soft nitro with plasticizers, while the custom shop guitars seem to use better quality lacquer that isn't soft and sticky. Why can't they use the good stuff on production guitars? I always want the "thin skin" or "road worn" Fender models with thin nitro finishes over even the more expensive production guitars like the Vintage II that uses the nitro with plasticizers. I don't mind poly on the body and urethane on the neck if its thin, a squirt of the original bees wax stuff I got from Stewmac makes it as smooth as a boob (never felt a baby's butt), slippy sliding goodness, and no residue - it's a brilliant product, and smells like lemon!
@Paul-rt4ix
@Paul-rt4ix Год назад
I had a 1992 Gibson SG Standard & the nitro was very thin & hard. I have a 2019 Gibson SG Junior now & it just feels nothing like the finish from 30yrs ago. Feels cheap & plastic. Would Acetone remove the nitro but leave the cherry stain? Thanks.
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
The stain will be removed along with the varnish by 90%
@amslu
@amslu Год назад
Hi, do you have a workshop in Poland?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
I am in Belarus. In Poland I work with frescoes.
@NigelTufnel612
@NigelTufnel612 Год назад
The Gibson factory should hire you as a consultant to show them how to properly make a Les Paul. It amazes me they can't get the top carve correct on their own custom models. So, the lesson here is that if you want an historic Gibson recreation, you can't get it from Gibson...
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@FlorianKF
@FlorianKF Год назад
Thanks for the informative video. I have a Les Paul that has been refinished on the top (thin nitro) but still has the "old" and thicker finish on the back. You can feel that at the binding. Do you think I can just strip the back and neck to do a more natural oil finish and keep the nitro on the top? What would you suggest?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. Painting part of the guitar is always difficult then repeating all guitar.
@mhdz10
@mhdz10 Год назад
Hi! I want to start by saying that I love your videos. But personally, I don’t see anything wrong with Factory finish. I focus more on sound and playability that any other things. Could you please explain why is the finish “wrong”? I’m not an expert, an artist or a painter, so I don’t really understand much about it. Thanks!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. I answered these questions in several of my past videos. About 59 Les Paul, Relic and many others.
@mhdz10
@mhdz10 Год назад
@@8BombCustom I'll take a detained look at them. Thanks!
@klauscottonswab2322
@klauscottonswab2322 Год назад
wo that's a really nice R9..
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Yes, thank you.
@LPCustom3
@LPCustom3 Год назад
Why not use Methel Ethel Keytone instead of Acetone?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
You can use it too. The result is the same.
@psp777
@psp777 Год назад
I'm curious what blade is that and how it would make the job easier vs. a pudy knife/ scrapper?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you. Scrapper is good for polyester sometimes. But it is hard work.
@psp777
@psp777 Год назад
@@8BombCustom its just a regular craft knife you use?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
@@psp777 This is a medical "eye" scalpel
@vladimirpoutine7522
@vladimirpoutine7522 Год назад
Dr. Nitro!! Does my 2020 Standard use this same quality paint?
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Maybe. I don't know.
@davidanimation8691
@davidanimation8691 5 месяцев назад
Добрый день чудесная работа ,смотрю у вас так все просто,лак снимается . Решил перекрасить свой лес пол ,купил ацетон сделал все как у вас на видео ,а лаку ходь бы что .Отколол кусочек лака положил в крышку с ацетоном , а он не растворяется ( гитара корейская реплика Gib.... .Вы профессионал в этом деле не одну гитару сделали ПОДСКАЖИТЕ чем удалить лак ( походу лак не нитро) феном боюсь ,шкурить тоже не вариант может быть какие растворители ? Спасибо что уделили время
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom 5 месяцев назад
Здравствуйте. Спасибо. К сожалению почти 100% азиатских гитар покрашены полиэфирным лаком. Верхний красочный слой еще можно снять с горем пополам строительным феном, но под ним всегда есть такой же толстый слой праймера (грунта). Его только механически. Шлифмашинка, шкурка, цикля +время, силы, нервы и терпение. Я такие гитары в работу вобще не беру. Только для одного друга иногда 😁
@davidanimation8691
@davidanimation8691 5 месяцев назад
@@8BombCustom спасибо большое, выручили. Удачи вам, буду ждать новые видео
@Nic-tg2ei
@Nic-tg2ei Год назад
Damn that's satisfying!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@Nic-tg2ei
@Nic-tg2ei Год назад
@@8BombCustom I just finished stripping an epiphone V and it was messy!
@wouteronguitar3412
@wouteronguitar3412 Год назад
Awesome video !
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
Thank you
@chuckwolfboyer7830
@chuckwolfboyer7830 3 месяца назад
GIBSON HAS FLOODED THE MARKET WITH JUNK
@gitarbangsatchanel8036
@gitarbangsatchanel8036 Год назад
I really want to know the sound without the varnice
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
It will be sound with true and thin hard nitro with relic
@LP5369GT
@LP5369GT Год назад
I bought an old 98 doublecut with a black finish that was beat to hell. It was pretty cheap so I stripped it and refinished it in oil. It is definitely more resonant without the original finish. Better or worse is subjective, but there is no doubt it is different. It most definitely looks better than the scratched, faded, chipped and blotchy original finish.
@guacadu
@guacadu Год назад
Take that Mark Agnesi!!
@8BombCustom
@8BombCustom Год назад
😁👍
@pascalfleury461
@pascalfleury461 Год назад
Very nice
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