Gilbert Arenas Says Jokic & Giannis Aren't Megastars!! 

Exactly

Literally

Gil say just as much wild shit as Rashad, but y’all ain’t ready for that convo 😂

@@jaredthegamer369 I agree. Agent 12 and Nam'Sayin are just saying random stuff.

Exactly lol

I mostly agree with Rashad but on this one gill got him I know what Gill is talking about but I would disagree and say Kevin Durant is up there with Curry and Lebron

Loool first time ever.

Thank you...people don't seem to understand that part. My girl knows who Steph, Shaq, AI, etc are and she definitely don't watch baseball

Cool, I don't need to say it now.

this this this this this this this!

this would have been the perfect explanation.

So your Mom knows me... that makes me a Superstar. Makes me a "Household" name.

hahaha bruh he said jokic aint even a star

@@yugo4855 right he just looking for clicks. That Katt Williams interview set a new standard for podcasts

No he would be right Tatum #2 in jersey sales which would be inline with his logic

@@quintonjackson8458they’ve had this conversation months ago and he said that back then as well. He’s not looking for clicks; he actually thinks that.

Facts

Lol They won every type of MVP, 97 in 2k, you can go to any gym in America and see their shoes...if that's not Superstar what is?

If this your 1st time agreeing with rashad then you either dont watch or just bias to your own thoughts. Plus he was wrong this time

@@theoriginaltroll388 Not only that but they're extremely popular around the world. Giannis had the most all star votes across the globe lmao

Dude I’m from Africa those two dudes are biggggg here and everywhere else.

@@AFTWKING my question is why you worried about how often I agree with another person, seems kinda strange that even decided to reply to that part of my statement. And I watch often enough to know that I hardly EVER agree with him. Go play somewhere else and worry about yourself, stop worrying about me

Rashad is completely wrong. Those dudes are not superstars. Superstars grow tv ratings & move merchandise.

@@ejkboxing bingo

@@ejkboxingthat’s a celebrity. A superstar is someone who outperforms others on a regular basis on the court.

The fact that the media presses Jokic and he just wants to be with his horses lol he a superstar because they want him to be so bad

The fact that the media presses Jokic and he just wants to be with his horses lol he a superstar because they want him to be so bad

Bro this is obvious, they aren't talking pure basketball. They speaking in 'face of the league' level popularity. Basketball stardom is based on accomplishments and accolades. To be a superstar you need more than that.

literally… hahahahahaha

He said he’s in the superstar lane just saying they are not bigger than Lebron and Curry

@@cooperkodi3314:00

On top of everything else lmao, Giannis is definitely a superstar so is KD

People are misunderstanding what they said because they are saying your favorite player isn't a superstar. A superstar is someone who transcends the sport of basketball.

Whose really wearing dawg shoes tho

And he got a whole movie on Disney Plus and another one on Amazon Prime

@@prvkid011 exactly

They letting their personal hate cloud their judgement

They don't watch basketball games. Y'all gotta understand ex NBA players only thing they can talk about is basketball skill of people they HAPPEN to like and watch. Any take about anything else is 50/50 hit or miss..Giannis is a SUPER superstar both popularity wise and gameplay wise. Watching Giannis live is one of the best experiences the NBA has to offer right now. Also the fat fuck in the middle keeps disrespecting Giannis and his brother even tho he wouldn't be like that irl in their face. I promise u that. Always the fat unathletic fuck that has the most disrespectful shit to say. That's why Sports discourse has become like this nowadays

And you have Kenyon Martin agreeing with that crap

iverson had no ring..just saying

@@evamutunga6501 u compare vince to iverson?... i verson carry the whole sixers to the finals, vince being carried by Jkidd to the finals.

@@hunyango2k Vince wasn’t even on those nets teams in 2002-2003 lol He came after and did Absolutely nothing

@@hunyango2k Vince didn't even make the Finals. He was still on the Raptors. When he went to the Nets, he never got out the second round

😂😂 smoking dick

U don’t understand

@@RobertLewis-zp4vcno we understand. Seems like you don’t understand dipshit. There’s never a damn time Steve Francis was ever bigger than Giannis. In what world clown?

😂😂😂😭Make it make sense

Had to have watched , the franchise , come up, in that Era. That man was an ill level

Gil literally had my stress level super high with this video..I couldn’t believe he was saying some of these things😭😭

He said Yao Ming was a superstar, although it seems he was the only foreign player he named as a superstar

@@justanobody0and I’m reasonable and is not like I’m a foreigner or a person who over hypes foreign players. But Giannis is and I’d argue Luka is although I understand if people say he is almost there. But to say jokic isn’t even a star is blasphemy.

Jokic has the biggest contract in the NBA and he is not a star. xD Hahahahaha....

gil lost his damn mind, dude caps way too hard to take him seriously

So explain his Steve Francis point…

​@@Selorm284You ever played NBA Live back in the day? Go look who's on the 2002 cover.

Obviously MJ, Magic and Bird. Charles Barkley was well known around the world too not as much as MJ,magic or Bird. But yes you are right mostly Lebron and Curry.

@@MARZOSIRUSKevin Durant is in that category the world hates him for joining the warriors. He’s definitely infamous but he’s up there

@trelwilliams5003 Durant is not world famous. My wife has no idea who Durant is. But my wife has heard of Lebron and also Steph Curry. Right now Travis Kelce is also very well known because of Taylor Swift. I have no idea why some players are more famous than others. Durant skill wise I would put him top 3 in the NBA for sure.

Lowest rated finals in NBA history. He's a x2 mvp and just won the finals and yet he isn't even top 10 in jersey sales, even Lamelo sells more jerseys than him. Gil is right.

@@MR12AMAZINGso superstar is a measurement of popularity and not skill?

lowest finals ratings he isnt a star

@@dataphoenix8004 Imagine winning back-to-back MVPs, with a Finals MVP to top it off. Then being told you’re not a star bc of the ratings. You, are a damn fool.

@@dataphoenix8004 So Tim Duncan isn't a star because he was involved in 2 of some of the most boring Finals ever, 2005 with Pistons and 2007 with Cavs? Come on now.

People who don't know much about basketball DONT know who Jokic is.

@@cortlandsimmons6241that’s the difference between a super star and a star. My girl hate basketball but know who lebron and curry. She don’t know who joker is, even though he a monster

Mind you Giannis is top 5 in sneaker sells right now😭🤦🏽‍♂️

@@shinsukecorbin425and jersey sales and lead the nba in all star votes

@@shinsukecorbin425 If I were a kid i'd be rocking those Giannis sneakers like a mofo

Well it is called Gil’s arena. Gotta suck off the dude who signs your checks. what a ridiculous conversation

Ong 😂😂

He scared Gill will chase he's ass out🤡

facts gill talking str8 bullshit

Gil is correct

This! But It's also possible to grasp a person's definition and engage with it, it would make for a better conversation! Rashad's insistence to never engage with - and belittle - other people's definitions constantly hurts conversations on the show...

The issue is people just thinking basketball. Lebron and Curry are something different than everybody else. Greek Freak can’t carry the league that’s the issue. He’s not marketable as the others

@@cooperkodi33 Yeh, they not realising that conversation isn't just NBA/USA it's beyond that...

​@@cooperkodi33 it's surprising so many people don't get that point. Being great in your field of entertainment doesn't automatically make you a superstar to the world at large

@@cooperkodi33It’s becoming a world game though. I think Xenophobia is blinding us from that reality. Go overseas and see who they name after Bron and Steph

Agreed

LeBron and Curry transcend eras in their businesses, but Jokic may only be truly remembered as a superstar in the era that he plays. All of them are superstars though.

Facts

You beat to this comment, I was thinking the same. 🫡

Yup that’s all it is

But Steve Francis is 😂

@@theoriginaltroll388exactly. Like whatt

xenophobic

There are 5 to 6 superstars in the league at all times, what a superstar? They can potentially get you to the finals and make a major impact in on the finals lebron and curry are leaving this tier you have Giannis, Jokic, luka, Tatum, embiid, and I might say KD just offensively, it has nothing to do with popular and allstar are butler, curry, AD, etc

In Gil's definition yes, the more marketable you are the closer you are to mega/superstardom

Well one way or another he was saying there were a lot more superstars in the 00s maybe he's saying casuals were more well informed in the 00s Off the top of my head, he named: Shaq, Allen Iverson, Tmac, Kkobe, Steve Francis Vince, Yao Ming, oh and Wade So 8 superstars in the 00s

Anyone that's not American won't be as recognised as American players. That's cause of media. Nothing else. Giannis is very obviously a superstar

@@demontime9490That is in America, Luka or Wemby are more known than anyone drafted after 2018 in the WORLD, not Zion, not Morant, not Lamelo

Jordan Curry and Lebron are Mega Stars, which is even higher than a super star

DAT DUDE

Shxt crazyyy his best accolades is 3x all start never mvp never all nba team but hes a superstar to Gil only because Gil demolished him u see what gill is always doing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 trynna lift his shxt ass career into something big nahhhh ninja

Stevie Franchise the 🐐

ask your aunts that don't watch basket ball and show them Giannis face and ask them if they know who he is how much you want to bet they wont know who he is. we are not talking ball were talking notoriety outside the court

@@kevinvazquez5505 that is such a nebulious way of looking at it. Because depending on where u are giannis,luka,KD ade just as recognizable.

@@kevinvazquez5505you think my aunty know who tf Tatum,vince, or mcgrady is? She only know ja because that nigga was on tv for brandishing a gun, not from basketball.

​@@thelastquincy1457 But a superstar is typically considered to be a household name. Think like Snoop Dogg, you don't have to be a rap fan to have heard of him

@@popetaytvGiannis has a whole COUNTRY in his corner and has a NBA ring..Idk wtf you’re talking bout

Talking about RJ and Cam were ranked higher ok cool, there was a reason Zion was #1, he played much better than them at Duke and had one of the best one and done seasons ever.

​@@Jboooog18 Zion didn't play better. RJ was just as clutch. Zion had higher hype because of his jumping ability and media push alongside Ja

@@Atlas365247 media push or not, they are better players. It wasn't ja averaging 20 and 10 or Zion playing great and being AP player of the year? It was media that got them top 2. We see in the league they continued to show they are better than RJ and Cam

Negative

@@realamerican8069 you just want an argument lol.

When the last time you bought any of their shoes?

Marketability. Jokic doesn't have the demeanor, people hate Embiid for whatever reason, and Giannis' name is too hard to pronounce. Luka, on the other hand, has the personality to pull it off. So when he says superstar, he's talking about celebrity. It takes a certain personality to pull it off.

@@keithparker3698Giannis in the top 5 of Nike sales

I think your last sentence is their point.

​@@369pendulum my point is, that these guys still think this is the 90s or early 00s. The market doesn't care anymore if you are from some inner city in the USA. You are not just trying to sell sneakers to the majority of kids in the US anymore. It's now global. At this rate, I won't be surprised if the overseas market has now equaled or even surpassed the domestic market. It's no coincidence that in the last half a decade the season's MVP has been a foreign player. Being from the USA is no longer a prerequisite to being an NBA Superstar like in the 90s. The NBA is quickly focussing on branding a foreign player as the next Lebron. Just look at the hype around Wemby and the fact that some days ago they actually played a couple of NBA season games in Paris. Gil is still talking like its pre-social media era....the product is now bigger than what the domestic market can do to satisfy it.

He’s just being an idiot.

@@devJOE-Man Dude I’m not saying I agree with them. I’m saying if Giannis played in NY & won a chip for them, these guys wouldn’t be able to deny that Giannis is a superstar. Let me repeat, I do not agree with them at all, but if Giannis was in NY I don’t see them having this perspective.

@@369pendulum oh got it. My bad. Apologies 🙏

😂😂😂 Gil equates superstar to "scorers"

@@theoriginaltroll388 he said Steve Francis could score 16 ppg and he's a superstar

@@theoriginaltroll388 if it was just scorers than wouldn't Isaiah Thomas be a superstar when he averaged 30 ppg and Embiid, Luka, Giannis, etc are scoring 30+ ppg, and they didn't make his superstar list Embiid is averaging 36 ppg right now, Luka is averaging 34.7 ppg right now

@justanobody0 Gil is just tripping this time Giannis has his own shoes, every type of MVP, 97 in 2k, captain of the all star team...If that's not a superstar idk what is

@@theoriginaltroll388THIS. Bruh, what more would Giannis have to do to be considered a superstar? 😂

Absolutely and so is GA

​​@@AceTheCap823 bro just say Giannis bruh had me confused for a sec who calls Giannis GA 😂😂

@@rajam6052 my bad bro imma bucks fan we call him GA sometimes😭😭

@@AceTheCap823 🤣🤣

@@rajam6052I thought he was saying Gilbert Arenas was a superstar 😂

Gil: There's only 2 super stars in the league Lebron and Steph. McCant: Is Tatum a superstar? Gil: Yes.... Told me all I needed to know.

Thanks for pointing this out for em

if luka went to the celtics his jersey would outsell tatums.

​@@CappolaJanitor-pe7kwKenyon said that not Gil 😂

@@gnome-ski if Ja went to LA... Clippers or Lakers he would be a super star

They just released a short Doc about him on Amazon Prime as well.

Yea where in the world do people yell out "YANIS!" when they do a move and what move are they doing when they say it? That's a megastar. Iverson, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Curry, people who change how the game is viewed. It's not JUST Jersey sales and all star votes.

@@voldregatheblackmage8616The Eurostep dunk

@floorgeneral309 People say "Yanis" when they're Euro stepping? Come on bruh You ain't gotta lie like that.

and you ain't gotta be a hater. Giannis is a superstar@@voldregatheblackmage8616

Do u know what it means ?

Exactly wth

Yea I believe so. Gill talking about faces of the League. That's different Lol

i stopped watching i couldnt

Jokic is a very boring player like Tim Duncan but both are all time greats so who cares

If Joker was walking down the street would you stop what you doing to go see what the fuss is about. If answers no you have your answer

Yeah that’s some bs Lol

Joker and Giannis might be superstars in their home country but not in the states. Bron, Steph, KD and maybe a few others can’t go to a mall in a midsized city. They’d shut it down.

Thats when gil lost me when he said vc as much as I lovee vince we not finna sit here and put him in a superstar convo with guys like kobe bron michael jordan shaq steph etc

Tracy Mcgracy was a superstar he was in movies, music videos, commercials, and sneakers

@@SunniChampok but he said Giannis and kd aren’t bro. You not gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me they aren’t superstars but tmac and stephon fucking Marbury were

@@SunniChamp You confused with Celebrity and Basketball player? Heck, if you are only basing Superstar with being famous: Giannis and KD is more famous WORLDWIDE than TMac is.

​@@kamotetops1572than tmac? Lol you buggin

He argues his side better

In what world?

Said no one ever

Hurts to admit it 😂

@@NewEraNoahbroke haters are hilarious

Rashad be having some great takes too bro tbh lol

There are 5 to 6 superstars in the league at all times, what a superstar? They can potentially get you to the finals and make a major impact in on the finals lebron and curry are leaving this tier you have Giannis, Jokic, luka, Tatum, embiid, and I might say KD just offensively, it has nothing to do with popular and allstar are butler, curry, AD, etc

Fr, it hurt my dam head watching this

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ur dumb ..

Facts. That's my point also.

There are 5 to 6 superstars in the league at all times, what a superstar? They can potentially get you to the finals and make a major impact in on the finals lebron and curry are leaving this tier you have Giannis, Jokic, luka, Tatum, embiid, and I might say KD just offensively, it has nothing to do with popular and allstar are butler, curry, AD, etc

"...failures for not achieving their potential," that a very very foolish statement. No one in the NBA is a failure. Its a very elite position to be in, which is why you are tuning into them and not vice versa.

@@MikeBTek you sound like someone who ADORES participation trophies. With the stats they had before and even after getting into the NBA more was expected from them AS top-rated players which they didn't achieve especially with the contract someone like Gil received. Just cos you graduated from medical school (which itself is way more difficult than any professional sport) does not mean you automatically become a success in the field...hence the word BUST. Note: I am talking about their achievements in court and not financially wise. We have all seen mediocre folks get paid more than they deserve in many careers other than sports.

@@devJOE-Man One stands a better chance of being a doctor than being a NBA player by far. There is nothing mediocre about being in the NBA. How many job openings each year? Only 60 players are drafted and some of those drafted don't make the team. I will believe your BS when you get a job with only 60 openings per year, since it's so easy.

​​@@MikeBTekagree bro. It always makes me mad when people make fun of players like Jeremy Lin. He made it to Harvard and the NBA. Motherfucker is top 10% in academics and sports.

@@MikeBTek anthony bennett is not a failure i guess, pro player meat suckers like you are the worst imao...gil never lived up to his talent, compared to jokic whihc is supposedly not even a star he is freaking bum its as simple as that and lets not even talk about rashad imao

It does seem like they discounting international players cause he said Dirk wasn’t

Depends what is your definition of superstar. To me a superstar is someone who can recognizable by ppl who don’t watch the sport. Basically Bron and Steph are the only superstar in basketball

@@yvans. thats subjective & depends on the reasoning. All it takes is a well placed commercial, a controversy, a viral moment, etc and ppl know somebody. Ppl who dont watch sports def know who Kyrie Irving is.

xenophobic bruh.

You’re explaining why he’s not a superstar lol. Yeah you’re not American and Greek doesn’t overly support you. Yao Ming was a superstar because China paid billions investing in the nba because of Yao Ming.

He's not talking about basketball skill. He says that like 3 or 4 times.

It’s not just about basketball it’s the IT factor.

And no it-factor,i.e. charisma,swagger,personality=MARKETABILITY!!!

@@tari8134he can’t be talking about marketability because Giannis and Luka are both top 5 in sneaker sells right now🤷🏽‍♂️

@@JoeNeely Both Luka and Giannis have that

But the whole Bay Area is a huge market area though ain't it ?

Rashad is slow Those players who they named move the needle It's more than on the court

Your young

Maybe Not Westbrook or Harden, but definitely KD and Giannis

@@WTN416 Not that young. Durant is absolutely a superstar, especially when he was younger. Leading the league in scoring, arguably the best scorer in the league when he was winning scoring titles and MVP. KD better than Vince and TMAC

@@WTN416 ??trying to prejudice on age let me tell you something Vince was considered a superstars ONLY because he had a famous dunk contest was he an actual superstar no. MOST NBA superstars are known for their fame TMAC was never as famous as Vince and He wasn't actually consider a superstar to a few people eyes as much as vince,kobe,duncan but he was up there in 03-04 and people judge him that he was going to be the next Kobe BUT was he ?.both of these players never won a ring never won a mvp never won a fmvp NEVER EVEN GOT A RING how could they be superstars I don't even remember them even being all nba dk about that. Now Harden, Westbrook they still aren't superstars realistically in my opinion you have to dominate the season AND the PLAYOFFS once in a decade to be considered a superstar what I mean by that is have a great season overall play good in the season and play better when Ur on the line. Vince,TMAC,Harden,Westbrook can be consider superstars in the making. Now Giannis,KD,also Jokic are superstars let me tell you why Most people will look in the playoffs and see who led the team to victory these three guys all won the chip. Winning a ring improvises your popularity by a lot just having a good Regular season does not make you a superstar Last person you can even say who was a superstar that didn't lead their franchise to a championship was Elgin baylor but like I said compare him to Oscar roberston who won a ring he might have not been the best on his team at the time but was still that almost superstar level but once he got that ring and helped led his team he was known as a superstar unlike elgin baylor who quitted the chance he had.