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Giving the Proletariat Property kills Socialist Movements 

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Marx believed the proletariat revolution who owned nothing was inevitable until the Liberal consensus realized they could kill socialist revolutions by giving certain populations property turning the into petite Bourgeois ensuring that they wouldn't vote for socialism.
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@YourCapyPal_3DPipes1999
@YourCapyPal_3DPipes1999 3 месяца назад
Time to demand a reverse TH Act on steroids...
@anubis2814
@anubis2814 3 месяца назад
The PRO act was supported by all dems except the two traitors blocking the end of the filibuster
@christo930
@christo930 3 месяца назад
We only had the largest economic expansion in world history after the taft hartley act in 1947. It's not like I oppose strong unions, but unions only work when the jobs are there. What good would a union be for a factory that is GONE? There is no better place for a union than a factory or a warehouse or other productive environment. Factory workers are extremely productive. They generate a lot of revenue. That is where wages come from. You have these fantasies that people are going to be able to support a family working at McDonald's or Walmart. These are not family supporting jobs. They are very unproductive. Unions cannot turn an unproductive job into a productive high paying job. Building things in a factory is what allows for high wages. Plus, it's not just ordinary production workers. It's an entire system. It requires all kinds of highly paid labor. It needs engineers, scientists and experts from many different fields. Up until the 70s, we had towns all over America built around 1 or 2 factories. The smart kids went to college and came back in management or engineering or other cognitive roles. Less skilled labor (the working class) worked in production. Some worked on the tooling. Some operated machinery. Some packaged etc etc. All these factories are GONE. Now the smart kids leave town and never come back. The less capable end up in dead end jobs, jail, addicted etc.
@christo930
@christo930 3 месяца назад
While the company town is the main source of income for the town, there is also a lot of other work that needs doing in the town which various residents can perform, like owning/running a hairdresser and barber, a hardware and other retail stores owned and operated by adults supporting a family. A local movie theater and auto shop....... Instead of a town built around income generation in the form of a factory (which draws income from all over the country and world), we have a bunch of operations which suck money out of the town and send it somewhere else. Walmart comes in, hires a bunch of teens and low end skilled adults to run the place at or near MW. 2 or 3 people in the store make 6 figure salaries, but outside of that, it's all low end. The money the people spend there doesn't stay in the community, it gets sucked out. Instead of restaurants you get fast food joints that operate just like walmart. Instead of a locally owned shop, you get a chain shop to do basic repairs and maintenance, another one for the major repairs or a dealership. The whole system is designed to suck money out of the town.
@anubis2814
@anubis2814 3 месяца назад
@@christo930 "not productive", and that's why we are all working for way less than ewe should and the bosses keep getting richer and we all get poorer. Fast food workers are sustainable to be paid living wages. You know how I know? because in Denmark You get paid very well for fast food and can live off of it. Once you stop needing to worry about starving you can think about enriching yourself like going to college. If you are too busy focusing on survival many will never enrich themselves and get stuck in a poverty cycle. Also funny you should mention Walmart the company have has literally the most employees on welfare and food stamps meaning Walmart itself us stealing our tax dollars for welfare and paying their shareholders and CEOs billions. "If there are no jobs" if large corporations hold a strangle hold on monopolies then yes they are the only job creators. Until the 90s half of all people were employed by or owned their own small business. Since then that number has halved as people are now too poor to take the risks and get the investment money needed to start a business. Germany and Scandinavia are great examples of how life can be if unions are in every job profession. Co-determination ensures half of all company boards are worker representatives because they are also stakeholder in the company and they don't pull this America style kill the company for short term profit BS like happens with CEOs with golden parachutes and private equity killing businesses left and right as making a profit no matter if they survive or fail thanks to volume of businesses they buy up ruthlessly.
@christo930
@christo930 3 месяца назад
@@anubis2814 Productivity is not a moral judgement. A person operating a press in a factory is just far more productive than a person operating a cash register or flipping burgers or being a cashier or customer service assistant in a walmart or other retail establishment. A person working a machine for an hour created a lot in that hour, often high dollar stuff too. They turn low value metal into finished metal parts. Cooked beef or french fries is just not that valuable. Would you want to work 8 hours a day in a fast food joint anyway? No, there is no magical education. While there are exceptions to every rule, in general, most adult fast food workers would not benefit from college. Beside that, we all can't be fast food fry cooks or cashiers. We need a functional economy capable of providing employment to the people. This is a very small percentage of the working and lower middle class. The lower middle class and down is the majority of workers. This is why we have so many people "working" in the informal economy. You're singing to the choir here. I support a tax scheme that would go up as income went up like we had in the post war period, 90% or higher top rate. This is one of the major factors harming small business. I support unions. I already said that. I want strong unions. But most low wage jobs today are not good candidates. If you unionized all fast food and big box retail, all it would do is result in higher prices. The workers are no better off. Initially they would be, but higher prices would eventually level out. WHY do you support McDonald's, Walmart, Home Depot etc who destroy local communities? You want to take something awful and make it less awful. I want to eliminate them. I would much rather support Joe's hardware and plumbing than Home Depot. I would much rather eat at Linda's diner than some chain fast food place. Heck, I would rather order out pizza from my local pizza place than buy a big mac. I certainly would rather buy stuff that was made right here and not in China. Plus, all this is ignoring the fact that chain stores/restaurants suck money from the local economy and send it elsewhere. Walmart profits don't go to main street in Anytown, usa, they go to the headquarters.
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