@@lha7735 Burt was right though,Finn was being an asshole.Burt was only trying to protect his son.You can’t just go around saying the f-slur as you please in a house with someone who is part of the lgbtq community.It’s insensitive and wrong.Even if Finn felt uncomfortable he could have told Kurt and they could have changed his room.
What I love about Burt is that he doesn’t deny the fact that when he was younger, he was potentially homophobic at times (using the “f” word etc). But he changes and becomes a better person because of his love for his son. I think that’s so admirable.
I appreciate that he talks about how hard it is to change his thinking because it was common place when he grew up. But, he changed even if it was hard because he loved his son and loved him for who he is even if he didn’t quite know how at first Burt is the best parent on this show
'Out in the world you do what you want, not under my roof.' That has to be the first time I've ever heard that in relation to homosexuality when they meant 'Don't be homophobic under my roof' rather than 'Don't be gay under my roof'. Burt is amazing.
Burt wasn’t being an asshole because he didn’t know about Kurt to blame too once he found out he had a talk with him and he had every right to tell funn off
@@bluebubble229 furthermore, Finn moved in, eventually Burt was going to have to play some sort of parental with finn 2. When there is a disagreement between two people, one of them is your stepson in theory the important thing to do is to jump in and find out what is going on, Burt didn't do that he overreacted and didn't listen to Finn's side of the story. And again he immediately jumped to conclusions and through finn out of the house, that was extremely childish on Burt's part.
Lets not forget that Kurt to their parents together so he could have a shot at sharing a room with Finn. If Finn were a girl and Kurt were straight there would be... a very different conversation.
@@aldendomino3523 No it would not be. Dude had a crush. Dude was blooming in his sexuality and he did things so he and his crush could be together. He did not try and rape Finn. He did not kiss him without permission. He merely flirted. He merely tried to put himself in situations where he could be with Finn. He did want Finn to like him, but it was nothing more serious than a schoolboy crush.
@@alexisgrammer6629 Not to mention that Finn was one of the first guys to be nice to Kurt, and Kurt probably thought “I finally have a guy my age who accepts me. I would die for him”. That’s how I was when I came out to my friend.
I felt so bad for Kurt in the beginning, I mean you could see the pain in his eyes. He tried so hard, and you could see he was hurt by what Finn said...
actually, Kurt DID want to date Finn in a 100% romantic type of way. 100% Kurt was flirting with Finn. Even Burt brings it up next season. People are calling Anna a dumbass for bringing this up, well you are the dumbasses for not being able to realize what Kurt was trying to do throughout this series. Even the set up of the room, it is not something most guys, esp most masculine guys would want. Let's be real. They eventually do go to a brother relationship, but that is not how it started. Kurt was interested in Finn. That itself was not the problem. What became the problem is he wanted to try to force Finn into something he didn't want. If you had to live in that situation everyday, it would bother you too.
Oh please. Give me a fucking break with that bullshit. Kurt had a crush on Finn during this time period and he KNEW that he was making Finn uncomfortable and continued without giving a damn. And when Finn ginally snaps and calls THE BLANKET NOT KURT FAGGY he's the bad guy?! Fuck outta my face with that shit!!!!!!!!!! Burt even admitted later on after Finn died that he knew what Finn meant by saying faggy and that he totally overreacted.
@@maxeyre2024that wasnt the only fucked up thing hes done tho. He said faggy, said retard, cheated, kissed a married woman, etc. being young does not excuse ones actions.
@@ThePokefreak98 he outed Santana in the middle of the hall, too. I think that's pretty fucked. He had no right, especially when he knows how dangerous that could have been for her safety.
Crying because I wish my dad had been a half-decent human being... I love what They did with this father/son relationship throughout, while Santana's storyline showed the family turbulence version.
Finn was right Kurt was making him to feel uncomfortable in his own home. Finn was principally about Kurt loving him or liking kurt being gay or the principle about what he was about to say Burt would be in that fault because of screaming at him like that calling him that know matter gay or straight.
Melissa Walker I'm not 100% sure what you meant, because it's not properly writen. But from what I understand, you're saying Finn is right and Burt wrong? Well, yeah, Finn is right in that Kurt is making him feel uncomfortable. And he was also right that it's not fair for their parents to make him share a room with Kurt (specially after he lived with a room for himself all his life) juste because they want to be together. You have to be very sensible when bringing two families together. But he was DEAD WRONG about how he chose to express his discomfort. So Burt's response is totally called for. How would you react if somone came into your house and started being hateful towards your child? He might not have been calling him a fag directly, but we all know he was aiming at him nonetheless. There's even hate in his voice when he says the word.
And you somehow have the confidence to assert that the vast majority (90% you said) of single parents don't prioritize their children.. on what grounds? I'm going to assume you thought it'd be a good idea to emphasize Burt's willingness to stand up for his son by just talking out of your ass and making groundless claims to shoot down a cohort of millions of people you've never met and whose life situations you have no way of knowing.
Burt is a "Gay stuff creeps and weirds me out but you are my son so I will still love and support you no matter what" dads. He was never enthusiastic or celebrating of Kurt being so gay and flamboyant, in fact he probably wished he was straight and manly. But he's his son, and he accepts it and loves him unconditionally. Its the best a gay son can hope for.
@@romanr.301 Oh shut the hell up. It was an exaggeration. Everyone’s done it. Majority of parents are NOT who they are supposed to be. We understand that they are humans and make mistakes too, but these “mistakes” they make are catastrophic to their children’s mental health.
@@cristianbolanos9641 Fucking please. Finn called the BLANKET faggy, NOT Kurt. And Kurt knew what he was doing. He had a crush on Finn and season one and was flirting with him constantly KNOWING full damn well that Finn was straight. He knew he was making Finn very uncomfortable and just didn't give a damn.
D.N.C. Greatness you're right about the second part, but by calling the blanket faggy he's actually referring to Kurt. I mean, Kurt is the one who decorated the room and Finn finds the room faggy (he calls the lamp and blanket faggy and says that he can't live there because he's a dude). So yeah, what Kurt did was not cool, but Finn getting all offensive and homophobic because of it isn't right either.
My sister did the same thing me my brother and cousins were having a sleepover there was only 2 beds and 4 of us the beds were really big and could fit 2 people no problem my brother didn't want me to sleep with him and told me to go upstairs I refused told him no he screamed called me a faggot and I went upstairs my sister heard him and caught me coming up the stairs she tried stopping me I walked past her went to my room she forced the door open and wrapped her arms around me my cousins and brother came up and tried to get me to come down my sister stood infront told them to go back without me im not gay I just didn't understand why we couldn't fit on the bed and why he didn't bring his bed if he wanted to be like that my sister stayed with me until she got me to calm down and sleep on her floor that night she was going to kill my brother for what he did but I was there to calm her down like she did to me she couldn't sleep that night without worrying about me she forced me to sleep beside her she wrapped her arms around me pulled me close to her and wouldn't let go of me till we woke up
"Place looks great." No show could ruffle your tear ducts better than GLEE. The moment at 3:31, when Burt puts a hand on his son's shoulder and waits for him to return his touch, is amazing.
Just to be fair, while Finn had no right to say what he said, Kurt is not entirely innocent. He was constantly flirting with Finn. Constantly. You know why He wanted Burt and Carol to be together (at least in Season 1/at first)? Because he wanted to sleep in the same room with Finn, hoping eventually he would wear Finn down and Finn would want to do stuff with Kurt. Burt asks him that question, why did Kurt try to set him up with Carol and when he brings it up, Kurt does not deny about the fact it had to do with his attraction to Finn. If a guy tried to do what Kurt did to a girl, people would scream bloody murder. But because Kurt/Chris Colfer is a good looking guy, people find it adorable. Again, I am not justifying Finn, but, most people have a breaking point. It was awesome Burt stood up for his son, but it was also awesome the next season when he also pointed out how Kurt was also in the wrong too.
@@sethronalds9457 c'mon, flirting with your crush is unconditional flexible, and Kurt not decorate the room because he wants Finn to become gay, or try to watch Finn's body, he tries to make it personal for Finn because they has to share the room together, instead of calmly or actually trying to prepare his own room, Finn lets Kurt did all of it then scream at his face.
@@angelanguyen1384 he's about to be his brother that's just weird and kinda wrong and people don't actually flirt with their crush and Kurt could tell it made Finn uncomfortable as he was told by Finn to stop
@cm-qt9ir you're evil, you know that?! pure evil, you know how much harm that has done to the lgbtq community?! You know how wrong it is?! You can take that disgusting remark and shove it up your homophobic ass!
@@user-rd1zj8gw3q When someone says something like they said, whether they say conversion or conversation, you know automatically they're stupid, that's fine.
I love when he said that. It’s so true. A lot of people don’t realize what words can do. They can be filled with hate or poison even if people think certain words are a joke. We should all be more aware of what we say and the intentions behind our words
It’ll forever blow my mind that Chris Colfer was only 19 here, Cory was around 27 and Mike was obviously a grown adult but Chris matches their intensity for the scene, his acting is phenomenal
Why was Kurt out of line? Sure he had a little crush on Finn, but was that his fault? He was trying to get over it and he viewed redoing the room as a new start. He thought his design was a compromise, while most people see it as rather flamboyant.
Ok, so why was it different when Rachel was constantly flirting with Finn while he had a girlfriend? Maybe Kurt came on too strong, but Finn could've just told him to stop because he wasn't interested. I don't think either of them were completely right in this situation, but Finn took it too far.
Lh a I never said what Kurt did was ok. There's still no excuse to use derogatory terminalogy. Kurt doesn't get a say when Blaine thought he might of been bisexual. It was wrong and he even made a very biphobic comment and I was fucking pissed and that's exactly why white people can't talk on the POC issues, Straight cis people can't comment on LGBT issues. Basically, if the word doesn't apply to you, mind your own business.
This showed how much Burt understood that for Kurt home was a safe haven. He knew that he couldn't be there every second of the day outside but home was something he could influence.
On the other hand home did not feel safe for Finn. Don't give me all that bs about Finn being the bad guy here. Kurt provoked him into it and couldn't let it go. This scene has a history where Kurt already hit on Finn and afterwards Finn comes home to find his room like this. The beds being about 2 feet apart and a small wall between them. Just look at Kurt's whole demeanor how he undresses Finn with his eyes and speaks softly. Finn was feeling completely uncomfortable.
@@JSmellerM I get that; I absolutely get that Finn was uncomfortable. I really don't think those two should've had to share a room. Kurt has hit on and did have a crush on Finn for a long time, and I would feel uncomfortable living in close proximity with someone who felt that way about me, too, especially if they were supposed to be my "sister". But Finn using slurs was highly uncalled for. He could've handled the situation better. I actually felt bad for Finn, too. He seemed so upset and uncomfortable by the lack of privacy, and the fact that he feels so uncomfortable he puts his underwear on IN THE SHOWER before he leaves. But I think that could've been communicated better and this entire fight could have been avoided. Finn is equally to blame in this specific scene, although I don't think he's a "bad guy".
It’s not like kurt was trying to see Finn dressing like how Finn said kurt literally said “it’s a privacy partition, it was the only one I could find on short notice”
Ikr! Sure, Kurt had a crush on him, but he accepted that it wasn't going to happen, and Finn was just horribly homophobic and is clearly feeling emasculated ("I can't live here, I'm a dude"), and took it out on Kurt in the worst way possible. In no way, shape, or form is it ever okay to use the f-slur and Finn, as a 16 year old should have known that. Hell, I'm 16, born and partially-raised in a third world country (emigrated 2 years back) where people don't have any understanding of gay rights, and even I know that.
@@CMThota also Raechel was so much worse than Kurt ever was. She was constantly trying to get Finn to see her and leave Quin for her, she'd flirt with him and try to be near him all the time. Finn was comfortable taking showers with all the football guys but as soon as it's a gay kid he doesn't want to sleep in the same room as him. Kurt went out of his way to do what he could to make Finn more comfortable living there, while still keeping the room to his liking.
@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 Kurt hit constantly on Finn and it made him uncomfortable. Finn told Kurt before that he is not gay and does not reciprocate those feelings. It's not about Kurt being gay it's about Kurt undressing Finn with his eyes. If you can't relax at home it isn't home.
Lol I really like that line because it’s a little funny like that on the surface but it makes so much sense with his character. He wants to just be him, a very conventional straight dude, who happens to do show choir, but almost everyone wants to put different labels on him because of different parts of who he is
I love this, because no one is being evil here. All three have good intentions--everyone's just broken in some kind of way, and we're seeing their different types of brokenness play off each other.
Agreed. People were calling Finn horrible when he wasn’t really like that. Yeah saying a slur is bad, but the thing about Finn is he has real anger issues and can’t really control what he says most of the time. Imo it’s his worst trait, but deep down he doesn’t really mean it. He has no problems with Kurt being gay and doing feminine stuff, but he does have a problem with being an outcast due to those things
The way Kurt looked at his dad when he came downstairs and then back at Finn was such a realistic reaction. It was like he knew what Finn said was wrong, but he was hurt by it and then when Burt came downstairs he was relieved but also worried for Finn.
I have a gay uncle and I love him like crazy. Most family members on that side don't. My mother who is only related by marriage loves him. I would kick anyone's ass if they tried to hurt him. We need more people standing with their loved ones.
I love Burt so much. I mean this is a bit of a heartbreaking scene, but I love how it shows that Burt really accepts Kurt and stands by him and puts him first. And how did it taking me so long to notice about their names... Burt and Kurt. Also, I don't know why, but the way Burt says "the place looks great" and holds on to Kurt's shoulder is what really gets me.
I love Burt, he's such a great father, even though he isn't completely comfortable with the whole gay thing he still does whatever he can to understand, support and protect his son.
This makes me sob because I watch and I see Bert being a protective father and how he stands up for Kurt and then when Finn dies and they go through his stuff, Bert talks about how this moment was a revelation for himself as well and knew deep down Finn didn’t have any hatred towards Kurt for being gay. THIS FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WILL NEVER NOT MAKE ME CRY!!!!
This was very out of line for Finna, but Kurt wouldn't stop flirting with him and even wanted him to stay in the same room, change in front of each other, and sabotage Rachel to get closer with Finn. They were both out of line.
Finn is trying to put the effort to show how Kurt he is not gay because most guys are different and he is trying to tell Kurt but he want give the time to express of what is going on.
What about when he called Sue's baby 'retarded'? Most of the time I loved Finn but....he could just get really thoughtless and selfish and even whiny at times. I still loved him and was sad when he died but I guess because I liked him that I got really mad with him when he did stuff like that
Now he told Kurt time and time again that he wasn't interested and he snapped. I get that. But we all know, Finn shouldn't have used that word. That's it. They were both in the wrong, and should both be blamed for the situation.
I can honestly I learned so much from Burt Hummel. I don't have kids. I've never knew any homosexuals growing up. But, this character and this father really helped me evolve. For me he's one of the best characters ever written in television. Thank you Glee 🖤
This is the level of support I want to give my future kids. I don’t care what they want to be and if I don’t understand it, I will ALWAYS defend them, support them, and have their backs!
Burt is the most amazing father we have ever seen in tv. He is honest and direct, he is caring and tries to learn all the time, he protects his son over everything even if it cost him love...He loves his son more than anything. This scene gave me chills! I wish more parents were like this in real life, that they truly loved their kids selflessly.
I’ve never been able to tell what hurt most in this scene: Forcibly acknowledging how much everyone hated me, or having someone so vehemently defend me.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. Yes, not all homosexuals act or behave like this, but as a member of the 'gay community,' I can safely say that many do. It annoys me when people dismiss liking musical theater or classic Hollywood movies or frou-frou stuff as 'gay stereotypes.' There are many gays who like that stuff and sound like that. That said, I only have a problem with this stereotype when it becomes the ONLY stereotype shown on TV and in movies, because it gives impressionable and ignorant viewers the wrong idea that all gays are effeminate. They don't notice the so-called straight-acting gays, because they blend in with society.
Amy Erlanger yeah, Kurt is a very stereotypical gay character, but he is at the same time so much more than that. This show makes a perfect job showing how stereotypical behavior isn't a bad thing. It's bad when all the character is is his stereotypical behavior, but that isn't the case with Kurt.
Even though I love how overprotective that Kurt dad was being and everything he was saying was on point. I don't like the hate that Finn is getting because that type of attention is overwhelming and it's SEXUAL HARRASMENT, the fact that he doesn't feel comfortable changing in his own home isn't something to take lightly. He's been trying to spare Kurt feeling for too long. And even though Kurt is trying to act all coy, everything that Finn said was right on the money. Kurt is in love with Finn and his action the past first season was to get in his pants. So yay for Burt but Finn shouldn't get hate. I don't want hate towards kurt either because it's hard being gay when the mass majority of people are either straight, want you for only sex or in the closet. But he shouldn't get praise for making Finn uncomfortable in his own home.
I hurt so bad for Kurt in this scene. I know how painful unrequited love can be. I know how hard it is to feel attraction for someone that you know can never reciprocate your feelings. I know how hard it is to switch off an attraction even though you know what you want can never be. I fell for one of my coworkers once. He turned out to be gay. When I found out, it hurt. Because I knew that what I wanted could never be. Did it stop my attraction to him? No. It didn't. It took time for that to go away. Even though you know that your feelings for someone can't be reciprocated, it takes time for your heart to adjust to that. I learned to move on from it. But it took time.
I know how Kurt feels. Feeling insecure about yourself, having people make you feel bad for no reason at all... I wish I had a dad like Burt. Someone who will love you unconditionally and accept you for who you are. Someone who will NEVER insult you.
No joke, this is one of my favorite scenes in all of Glee. I don't know why, but I've always thought that it was so inspiring how Burt stood up for Kurt. He really struggled with Kurts sexuality early on, and I think that this scene really showed how close they were as a family.
John Doe and why finn didnt say anything? its not like they weren’t girls that act the same way that kurt did. He could just say “i dont like you that way”, but instead he choose to be homophobic
@@JohnDoe-mk3ch It's hard to switch an attraction off even when you know it can never be. I should know. I had that problem when I fell for one of my coworkers. He turned out to be gay. But even though I knew it could never be, I found it hard to switch off. It gradually went away but it took time.
@@JohnDoe-mk3ch he was trying his hardest to make him more comfortable, it’s hard to change feelings but he was trying to respect Finn and make him feel comfortable yet Finn used the f slur despite that. He was completely homophobic.
i haven’t watched this scene since it first came out, and before then i saw it as kurt was upset bc finn said what he did, which he was but there’s more to it, and that was the reason he was crying. now, i see it as kurt crying from witnessing the unconditional love and support from his dad during his entire speech. god, there is so much depth in this show and i LOVE it
Wow, I wasn't going to even click on this, but the moment I saw Burt step in, I couldn't stop myself. This is such an important scene! It makes me cry every time. That's the kind of unconditional love a parent needs to offer and the way we all should treat one another.
Burt was such a great character. I was afraid they would have Kurt's father turn out to be unable to accept him or struggle with it the way Santana's grandmother did. But he had Kurt's back from the moment he came out.
so i just started watching glee and tho i do agree the kurt often pushed bounds with finn there is NEVER an excuse to throw around slurs. finn had every right to be upset and stuff but to call him a slur…unbelievable. and in this moment here i genuinely don’t think kurt was trying to make finn uncomfortable
Finn easily could have talked to Kurt and explain that the room wasn’t his style. That he’d like to collaborate and make a room that works for BOTH of them. Not how horrible he was. Kurt was clearly trying to be nice. Burt did right by throwing him out. He was defending his son
Exactly, Finn have to flip out like that and use the gay slur. To make his argument and point with Kurt, as I like how Kurt tell him wouldn’t use the disability slur. With Becca in the same argument.
1:35 “you live a few years, you start to see the hate in people’s hearts , even the best people” WHEWWW when i say that hit home for me because it’s so true!!!!
my favorite part of this scene is how burt ends by saying “this place looks great” and putting a hand on kurt’s shoulder until kurt reaches for his hand back.
“I wasn’t teaching him a lesson on acceptance. I was teaching myself. He just happened to be there for it.” -Burt later admitting that while his heart was in the right place, his actions weren’t completely justified either. But of course we in the fandom don’t talk about that part
@@johnrainsman6650 There was a whole larger issue that was happening at the time. Burt loved his son but he was still struggling with accepting his sexuality at that point. He was honest, and he was doing the work, but this moment was more about him than it was about Finn. It was about his own feelings, his own experiences. Finn was just a trigger for that floodgate. He was also unaware of what had been happening between Finn and Kurt all season. Kurt had been extremely inappropriate with Finn, repeatedly hitting on him, making him uncomfortable, not respecting his answer. Had he been straight and behaved this way he would have been condemned. But because he was gay, the fandom crucified Finn as not being “accepting” enough when he had every right to blow up at Kurt the way he did after an entire season of this behavior. His “intolerance” had less to do with Kurt being gay and more to do with Kurt harassing him. Later on, Burt finds out about this and goes off on Kurt (rightfully so) for not respecting Finn’s boundaries. But that clip never receives the same amount of views or support. The fandom pretends those moments (Burt calling out Kurt for his contribution to this moment, and Burt later admitting this speech was more about him and less about Finn because Finn was never actually intolerant or unaccepting) never happened. But they did and are *equally* important.
@@Book_Dragon2562 Wait, where is this scene where Burt tells Kurt he should've respected Finn's boundaries? I want to see it. Also, if Burt was unaware of Finn and Kurt's thing throughout season 1, then how did he know how Finn meant the word, without context?
@@johnrainsman6650 Thats the thing, he didn’t. He was projecting his own past behavior and experience onto Finn and taking out his fears and concerns for Kurt on him. He heard the word and reacted. He didn’t have the context. Also, I haven’t been able to find that clip on RU-vid in a long time. You’ll probably have to go to a streaming site and watch the whole episode. I know Netflix has it.
@@Book_Dragon2562 What episode? And you're saying Burt's comment, "I *knew* what he meant when he was calling it f***y" is totally illogical and error-based