nah, maybe if he'd said it about Bach, or even Strauss.... but every knows Schoenberg is a clunk of thud fucks, and FAR less mysterious than Webern... Although the Gurrelieder intro is truly gorgeous
Today was my first time listening to this composition, there is something about 12 tone music that is so wonderful.This has now become one of my favourite pieces of music.
Very interesting conversation and performance! Menuhin and even Gould seem to have had reservations about this music -- yet they played it, and played it very well, at a time when it was by no means part of the "standard" repertoire. That is one reason they were great masters.
@@esharp13 GG with his perfect pitch and his extraordinary 'memory' of musical scores. One never sees GG playing live with a score, never. Even recording in studios he never used the score - at least not that I've ever seen.
Glenn never lost his enthusiasm for new music. He made recordings of Sibelius, Schoenberg, Krenek and dozens of other "modern" composers. Not just Bach's Goldberg Variations. This concert comes from DVD4 (where is is mislabeled as Webern) of the 10-DVD set Glenn Gould on Television. The Complete CBC Broadcasts 1954-1977
Rather rarefied atmosphere in which Gould and Menuhin discuss musical realities... We get the benefit of listening and pocketing otherwise unrecognized ideas.... even more rarefied in the arena of their collaboration. Very memorable, Thank You!
Christine Walsh Glenn Gould does a better job grounding an esoteric subject better than anyone I have ever heard in any higher field, physics, mathematics, jazz, economics, cosmology, etc.
Gould is all in. Menuhin is reading the music. Schoenberg you need to understand intellectually and emotionally, throw all to the wind and absorb and play. That is Gould. This reminds me of singing Wozzeck
So great despite Yehudi’s reservations which seem immense when discussing this music. And actually many of the harmonies are emotional and quite beautiful and somehow correct. What a journey. Such exploration; how rich in tone, timbre and pitch - truly a joy!
Wonderful. The conversation and the playing. Menuhin doesn't really appreciate Schoenberg but he give us a great interpretation. Glenn... an absolute genious or what?
Было приятно узнать, что отец Иегуди Менухина родом из Белоруссии, из Гомеля, моего родного города. Таки, земляки! 😁. И какое удовольствие слушать рассуждения этих блистательных музыкантов - просто песня! После их беседы Фантазия Шенберга стала понятнее для меня, слушаю ее в особенном настроении, не часто.
Glenn had TV shows. Like, shit-tons of them, over decades. And he'd have Menuhin on, and they'd play some late Schoenberg for the Canadian folks. When there were like three channels. Andras Schiff could have TV shows. Or someone. We can't have nice things anymore.
Schoenberg's compositions are usually not mellifluous as he intentionally challenged typical harmonic norms. In a sense, he was pushing the harmonic envelope. It opened the door for then unknown possibilities of communicating emotions harmonically.
It’s so curious if you look at their eyes it looks like both are looking for some sort of meaning behind the sounds they are playing, Glenn certainly looks like he is searching for something, what could it be? Divinity?, they are both traveling to other worlds while playing Schoenberg.
Its likely he had a photographic memory, he would play pieces perfectly after reading them, pieces he had never heard played before. My grandma's cousin could do the same with books, it's not necessarily supernatural but it is an incredible gift none the less. All musicians quickly develop muscle memory of pieces as well, and after enough practice, you can easily pull it off.
Gould wasn’t just technically and artistically a genius. He had the most interesting repertoire too. I think Menuhin would have played anything as long as Gould was accompanying.
Сегодня первый раз услушала Фантазию, чтобы узнать, какое откровение снизошло на Менухина в дуэте с Гульдом. Я оказалась менее подготовленной, чем Менухин..😳.. Буду слушать ещё. Мое впечатление: если бы Кафка мог писать музыку, он сочинил бы что-то в этом роде)).
Реально "Замок" Кафки представляю. Для этой музыки настроение должно быть соответствующее, и вот у меня как раз такое. Плюс парфюм Chanel "Cuir de Russie" - и это оно. Это Шенберг, детка! Это вам не Моцарт. Ай да Гульд, ай да Менухин! Таки, приобщили)) 🔥
General consensus that ‘Pierrot Lunaire’ is a masterpiece, and gets done with some frequency. There are other pieces of course but that one springs to mind.
I adore Gould. And from what little I read of Menuhin, he virtually made kindness and curiosity into a philosophy. I'm going to obsess over him once I'm done with Gould.
