Glenn Greenwald BRAWLS with LIBERAL COMMENTATORS Over January 6; Was it a COUP?!: Rising 

Glenn Greenwald is a Pulitzer winning journalist. He was instrumental in debunking the WMD narrative that led us into decades of war. He has more journalistic integrity (and talent) in his little finger than Briahna and Robby put together.

the fact that the Jan6 Committee never interviewed the Chief of Capitol Police and even refused his numerous offers to give public testimony before the Committee about what happened at the Capitol that day should tell you that the Committee had a pre set narrative before it interviewed one single person.

not a coup, not an insurrection, and frankly it barely even counts as a riot considering police were escorting people through the building

Absolutely HILARIOUS that Bri opens up with "I think Glen is playing fast and loose with the definition of a coup" and then goes on to completely ignore Jan 6 hyperbole and define a new idea she calls a "soft coup," which is totally different than Al Gore wanting a recount of ballets. She is a cult adherent cosplaying as a political commentator.

50 experts said that Hunters laptop was fake, ALL the experts said Covid came from bats, and Bri is still playing this game...

Glenn is right. Brie and Krystal just need to get their own show so they can reinforce their TDS is a corner by themselves and leave everyone else alone.

My goodness Bri, let’s talk about the crowd, the rubber bullets, the FBI and why request for national guard was denied by Pelosi

When Briahna does not like the truth she lies. The debate was 100% about J6th being an insurrection. Everyone's opening statements were about an insurrection. I watched Destiny try to garner information towards an insurrection, when he could not find what he needed, he moved the goalposts (which he is excellent at doing) to a coup. Briahna and Robbie left out the most important part of Glenn's point. Should Pence have invalidated the two sets of electors, before it even would go to a House vote, there would be legal action to stop it and it would need to go to the Supreme Court to decide. If this was Trump's intent, it would be the exact outcome of the 2000 election. Shut up, go home, and get a clue.

Glenn is right again.

Bri is delusional. It doesn’t matter what his cabinet or advisers said. If he doesn’t believe them he is not obligated to take their advice. How many times did his own cabinet betray him? 🤦‍♂️

No guns = no coup

It was a riot. By that definition, you could say social media companies played a role in a "soft coup", but regardless it's an absurd claim to say it was an insurrection or coup

Glen as usual is right

I think Bri is wrong. I believe the debate was arguing for or against whether it was an insurrection. And within that debate, Glenn argued accurately that it wasn’t a coup. We’ve only had the term “soft coup” for like 10 minutes. For the rest of history it involved military force which is what Glenn’s point was.

I think with the term "election denier" making its way into popular discussion, everyone just took it at face value that denying election results was some kind of affront to democracy itself. Are we forgetting that, in the US, you are perfectly within your rights to deny election results. Whether you are correct or not, it is well within your right to question the process. In fact, it should be questioned constantly. That's how we maintain efficiency and accuracy in the process. Conversely, making the claim that the process is sacred, and should never be questioned, is something more along the lines of what you'd here in a dictatorship.

Brie believes what she wants to believe. She doesn't like the definition of the word coup so she changes it. Robbie must be a dad. There's no other way he could have so much patience with her.

The problem with Bri is that she thinks her "facts" are the ONLY true facts. Time and time again, her "facts" are just talking points she really wants to believe.

Can we have Bri And Krystal please just go join the panel on the View already!

Why did the committee destroy evidence???

Ever notice how half way through her debates, Briana abandons the notion of any alleged improprieties and assumes guilt?

Bri is once again employing "the person who speaks the most is the winner" strategy.

Bri: Glen is playing fast and loose with definitions of a coup. Also, Bri, BLM has no connection to what a coup is. If in fact she believes that Trump was involved in a "soft coup" then she needs to apply that logic to everyother anti government event that aims to change or force political outcomes.

The only legitimate and legal way to question the vote was at the Capitol that day in Congress. It was set up for THAT DAY, JAN. 6, with about 15 (approximately 15). All the previous court cases were thrown out because of the wrong forum. The correct forum was in Congress that day. We settled in at home and looked forward to those arguments. But they were cut short soon after the first speaker of this legitimate process. We also saw on TV days before Jan 6, Pelosi standing before the Nation Guard and telling them that they must ONLY follow her command of her, Pelosi, and no one else's. We thought that was really weird. Then we saw the police open the gates and doors and wave the Trump fans in, They walked in slowly and orderly like tourists. It was safe to proceed with the legal process of the Congress people with their arguments. a few hours after the so-called "insurrection." It has been said that Congress was safe to resume, a few hours, but it refused. It was certainly safe to resume those arguments,which are due to the people, But even if the Congress were so PTSD'd - the next day or even a few days later, it would have been fine to resume the arguments- which are still due to the American people. There was a coupe, but it was by the Democrats. Having those congresspeople lined up for their arguments was a legal procedure, and that is denied to the people to this day. There were many proven ways to show the final counts of the vote were wrong.. Dems had this all set up with mail in ballots at the last minute. That is a decision that would normally takes years and years. Also huge rise in votes in the middle of the night and filmed vote dumping -ballots stuffed in bags and dumped into mailboxes. Piles of votes found in ravines More votes counted than voters in a district, I lived in Philadelphia for 13 years and became the target of severe retaliation by the Philly government when I exposed and collected evidence of their corruption regarding a contaminated site they illegally dug up for construction next to my house and the lead and mercury that was dug up made for extremely ill for years. They committed so many crimes against me because I collected evidence and kept trying to get them to do the right thing, but instead, they nearly killed me. I lost my home, career, health, family, everything. When I heard Philly saying they were honest in their election, I laughed. I used to read Philly's score on Election Fraud and they have been getting F decades. Philly did not suddenly become honest. I was living in CA when the Dem primaries and election of 2016 happened, yet I found my name, registered as a Dem, still on the Philly rooster even though I had moved away in 2013 to save my life. But I was a lifelong Dem. When I moved back to CA, I registered as an Independent because I was going to take my time to see how the politics were in CA. But then Bernie was going to be in the CA primary election, and I wanted to vote for him, so I went down and re-registered as an Independent. I was still a Dem and never even saw a speech by Trump. But when the primary came and they sent me a "Provisional Ballot." I didn't know what that was and went down to the voting office and asked for a regular ballot. I had to argue with them,. but glad I did because later they found massive amounts of red provisional ballots in warehouses and never counted them. So I voted for Bernie. Then they had the DNC convention in Philly and I watched them kick the Bernie voters out of the hall after the morning vote had Bernie win. I saw posters of Bernie drawn over with devil horns, and the city refused to allow people to stand on the Free Speech spot that has been in one of the parks since the days of the Revolution and refuse then their free speech. The city also tried to clamp down on free speech elsewhere in the city. That was the end of me voting for a Dem that year, 2016. I just was not going to vote at all. Still did not look at Trump. But, about 2 days before the Clinton/Trump election in November, I had a dream that shook me to the core. In the dream, I saw a map of Russia and the Eastern block countries. Western forces and rockets and weapons were aimed at Russia. I woke in sheer terror, knowing that Clinton was planning a war. I had a war premonition dream also on August 11, a month before 9/11. I was not going to vote for war, so I got up on election day, nov. 2016, and voted against Clinton. My stomach did not relax until the next morning when I woke up and found that Trump had won. Now Biden has the war that who ever wanted war gets what they want , sooner or later. If anyone thinks whoever is behind Biden and behind get rid of Trump and behind whoever is behind demonizing Trump supporters are not the same warmongers, and if you think they are not totally capable of stealing the vote, you are not thinking clearly. Or maybe you do want to wage endless wars and make the USA the biggest enemy of everybody on this planet.

When you look at the 2020 election results in relation to previous elections, the results are UNBELIEVABLE.

It was a riot. Not an insurrection or a coup.

Briahna is LOSING your viewership !

I watched the whole debate, something I doubt Bri or Robbie did. Those idiots had no come back, asked questions, then talked over Glenn, and every time the got caught out, they changed direction. It was embarrassing for them. Glenn rolled all over them.

Whether "soft", "hard", "military" or otherwise, a coup requires control, usurpation and at least the threat of the use of deadly force as its primary means of enforcement and support. Anything less, is not a "coup". A coup is a takeover, not a pleading for others to make alternative decisions based upon facts or potential facts, being currently avoided or dismissed. That is commonly called an argument or debate. Even so, in order to change the outcome of the election, all engaged parties with decision-making authority would have to agree and convince their staff to implement. It is actually a variable-filled undertaking that also ultimately requires settlement according to federal, State and local laws. That is not a coup.

"playing fast and loose with definitions"= WHAT BRI DOES EVERY DAY!

I don’t know what Trump did to break so many peoples brains. But it’s exhausting to deal with these fools who think the establishment is fighting him for the people

Definition of a coup "sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government; a coup."

When in modern history have multiple states stopped counting votes in the wee hours of the morning in a presidential election?

There was no coup

I think it’s silly that she can’t just admit that Trump was not orchestrating a coup, and instead tries to argue that there’s such a thing as a “soft coup” 🙄

I was in my twenties during the L.A. riots and they were a huge deal at the time. This is the first person I have ever heard in my life who considers the L.A. riots to be an insurrection.

Just a minor point: Glenn Greenwald's understanding of coups come from movies apparently. You do not need the military to be involved for it to be a coup. There are many types of coups. Maybe look up dissidents coup or auto coup as examples of other types of coups that do not involve using the military. Edit: well... it looks like Bri had the same point.

I would love for Bri to let someone else speak…

bri.. "trump can't just claim that he beleives something we all know is wrong"... also bri "people can just say they are the other gender and WE MUST BELEIVE THEM!!!"

Is Greenwald a Trump guy now? So, what does he call it then, if it wasn’t a coup? Never thought I’d see Alex and Glenn on the same side.

We know what Coup D’Etat is…! It’s infuriating that they would think that we don’t know what that is…! What an insult in the age of ℹ️

I like this show, but Bree is very hard to take. She has TDS and talks over Robbi. If you watch most episode she talks the most and Robbi doesn't. So unbalanced. This show is starting to lean left.

Briahna is confused here. Trump challenging the election result is legitimate and logical. To criminalize his legal challenge is lawlessness.

Fact still remains that all the people sent to jail.....the law never charged them with an insurection. So people can debate all they want. They were never charged with an insurection. Hence, no coup was commited. If people have a problem with that take it up with the court. Because they ruled the way they ruled.

Destiny's question is wrong. Trump "didn't refuse to certify the vote." Congress has the duty to certify the electoral votes from all 50 states. A few states were in dispute, as I recall, but Democrats refused to be transparent. With the mail-in ballots and voting machines and more problems, the 2020 election was most irregular, you must concede. Why the rush? Trump told the crowd to "make their voices heard" and said "peacefully." People who simply trespassed on Jan 6 should not have been arrested and imprisoned. It looks unjust.

It was a riot, not a coup

Is Robby not allowed to do research so he can speak intelligently on these subjects or is that a choice? Brie brings all the nonsense unchallenged, and thinks she has upper hand. She's often wrong.

It was Not a insurrection! It was a coup! It is Not the first time the US underwent a coup... The fact that there are Laws ALL over GSA Property that limits All Activity is well Documented. The fact that some Attempted to Enter by Force when they were Told to Stand back... Well, we All shall that shooting... That Air Head was Warned Multiple Times! As for the individuals that walked up the stairs in a Tactical Formation, being guided by a Coms Officer... What Happened? Those Radios have frequencies... a ping... You found the G Spot! Helloooo... As for the Assault on Police with weapons... Yet, no one was Shot! No One was Tazed! FPS was No Where on Site! Who was the watch commander? Common Briahna... Try a tad harder cause No one in Congress is Trying... Not even the Prosecutors... We can See that!

We learned in high school that a state was NOT legally bound to send electors as per vote.

Bri with the masterful word salad grasping a straws. Robby mean while is just bewildered like most of us listening to this.

151 million votes with 133 million registered voters

Which team is weaponizing the levers of government to dis allow the opponent from being on the presidential ballots?

Just because he didn't try to engage the military it was not a coup (attempt)? What is the word military coup for then?

Robbie! Stop letting her filibust you.

Bri's argument about Trump attempting an insurrection and overthrowing an election, claiming overwhelming evidence, is inconclusive, ridiculously political, and no slam dunk case.

The idea there wasn't several Trump - legal advisers, colleagues - who agreed to his line - is just not borne out. The issue became about the reliabilty or trustworthiness of official audits (vs independent ones) and recounts (over which concerns were raised as in Georgia). If Fani Willlis prosecution was seriously concerned they'd not ignore Trump's potentially exculpatory emails, as was reported by CBS.

The reason Trump didn’t order the military to take over was he knew they’d disobey the order. Trump had a historic level of distain for the military leadership, and it was mutual. Napoleon was successful because of the unwavering support of his troops.

Bri of all people has no right to say he plays with words "fast and loosely" when she does it everyday on this show.

If brianna is talking in a forrest and no one is around to hear her, is she still wrong?

To make Democrats mad, tell a lie. To make Republicans mad, tell the truth! Biden 2024!

Sorry Bri, but you're trying to punish people for daring to disagree with you. It's legal to challenge an election result in court (and Democrats/liberals have done so themselves in the past). If you lose the case, walk out of the courtroom, and pick up a gun and try to overthrow the government, THEN you're beyond the law. It's also legal for Congress to refuse to certify election results (and individual Democrat congressman have refused to do this many times). The constitution literally has processes to handle this. Even if such a process is used exceedingly rarely, you can't claim it's outside the law when it's literally written in the constitution. Ultimately, it all would have ended up with SCOTUS - and this is appropriate. If - and only if - Trump had refused to accept what SCOTUS ruled would he then have been outside the law. But this scenario simply never eventuated. Glenn is right on this. And Bri's arguments are both incorrect, and disappointing.

Bri is right on many things, but my god is she continuously wrong on Jan 6 and Covid policies.

The fact that you can talk 200 words/s doesnt mean that you are right.

Glenn Greenwald has gone bonkers. It's so sad that he has fallen from his once responsible role as a journalist, and now spews craven inanities, justifying the likes of Alex Jones.

So she's saying if he believes the cup is super dark brown and everyone else says it's black then he should have charges brought against him?

When talking about Jan 6th, it really just sounds like Bri is arguing for argument's sake.

We need a Bri and Amber show. So Amber can put this crazy lady in her place

Soft coup is a made up term, if not give an example of such a coup taking place anywhere?

When did Glenn Greenwald become such a knuckle dragging right wing apologist? And this comparison to the Florida recount in 2000 is just absurd in every possible metric.

The violence only started when the cops with no warning or reason started firing unto the protesters which were up to that point demonstrating peacefully. There were cops that opened doors and let people into the capitol and even told the protestors that they had a right to be in the Capitol. There is much more to this story .

If you think that the electors were illegally chosen, offering an alternate slate is not a coup or an insurrection.

I think I could see Bri's point more if any of that actually happened. The alternate electors, Pence throwing it to Congress, states not certifying electors, etc. It was basically just being talked about. They didn't go through with it, so it's not a coup.

"we live in a democracy". HAHAHA. thanks for the laugh! :D

It was a protest that turned into a riot.

I'm curious if Bri would consider the urging of electors to vote the opposite way their states did in 2016, a soft coup as well?

A protest it was, kicking and screaming! A people's movement 😂

The guy in the studio:" We live in the democracy..." Ha-ha-ha!

Conclusion: If Trumps does it then its a coup but if others do it then it's okay 🤣

Bree is arguing that opinion, in the face of objective reality, should be reconsidered…. Which, has never happened on the left as long as I have been alive.

Man I wish I could avoid going to jail for committing a crime if I personally believed I wasn’t really committing a crime. Must be nice.

There’s a reason Bri isn’t using that law degree of hers. 🥴😂

So, Google did a soft coupes, by Bri's definition

"an action tailored towards the election results not being respected" exactly, Bri. why would anyone respect any election "results" if they suspect fraud? there is a process to follow to challenge a disputed election, and Bri never once points out what Trump did that was illegal in that process.

Most people do not who their two senators are, their house representative is, their state senator is, nor their state assembly representative is. Then there is those who don’t know how many states there are, what country we fought against during the revolution, the list goes on. The actor Richard Dreyfuss makes the argument for this country stopping courses in American Civics in the early seventies. If you do not know our history as a nation, how can you understand any issue that is current?

A coup d'etat is when a group of conspirators unconstitutionally removes and replaces the leading figures of government. This isn't debatable; it's pretty much the dictionary definition. While it can conceivably be done without the active participation of the military, it will always require the complicity of those law enforcement and military figures who are in a position both to intervene and prevent intervention from law enforcement and military. Since they're highly unlikely to allow a coup, unless they firmly believe it's necessary or to their benefit, these figures are likely to either stop the coup, or be directly involved in it. As a result, virtually all successful coups are military coups, at least in part. Demonstrators with sufficient support among law enforcement and military that these will remain passive or be unwilling to escalate to the necessary level, can trigger a soft coup, by pressing leading figures to resign, to be replaced by conspirators in the coup. This is how most "color revolutions" have happened, such as the one in Ukraine, where Banderist sympathies were prevalent in the military, and Yanukovich was unwilling both to order such intervention and also to call in his own popular supporters. HOWEVER, this requires significant planning and preparation, to ensure that the replacement figures are in position to take over. In Ukraine, this part of the conspiracy was handled by the US embassy. There are no indications that Trump had made any such preparations, or even that he has the mental capacity and organizational skill to give it a decent try; if he had tried, we'd be drowning in irrefutable proof of it. There was no coup attempt, neither of the hard or soft sort. At most, it was an exceptionally incompetent attempt at election fraud, but I don't think it even rises to that standard. His narcissistic personality disorder simply made it psychologically impossible for him to believe that he lost. It seems like sheer stupidity, but, deep down, even intelligent, high functioning narcissists will believe that they're the rightful winners, and were cheated out of victory, even as they look at how the coin they provided landed, were the ones who flipped it, and force themselves to pretend that they know that they lost. They should know, but they honestly don't; it simply doesn't compute for them. Trump isn't a high functioning narcissist; he lacks the discipline and socialization to pretend that he knows that he lost. That lack of discipline and socialization is pretty much the only thing that sets him apart from other prominent politicians, though. They're no better or more intelligent, just better socialized.

If Pence couldn't do what Trump said he could, they wouldn't have changed the law after the fact to fix the loophole.

Her Ignorance of history is amazing!!

3:10 Fast and loose with definitions?? I can't believe I just heard that in THIS debate 😂😂😂

The media has become so biased its unwatchable.

US citizens should always have an avenue to challenge and audit election results. What Pence was asked to do was send the results back to the state to resolve the correct vote count. It was not about changing results, per se, but double-checking the processes. Pence's refused to do that. However, had he done that it would have not changed the results for certain. It would have put the burden on the state legislators.

If mail in ballots and ballot harvesting are secure, then let's allow guns to be mailed to people home and allow people to buy multiple guns, no ID, on behalf of several patients at the nursing home. When those laws are implemented, I'll believe democrats actually believe the outcome of the election.

Like people claiming they have PTSD from someone hurting their feelings.

The procedures for counting the electoral votes are validated by historical precedents. Any objections to the reported totals must be made by the duly appointed officials from each state. There were discrepancies and objections being read into the official record, which would've necessitated the reexamination of the reported totals and the subsequent appointment of contingent electors. There are always copies of the reported totals kept at the state houses, which are to be used to reconcile any objections raised to the totals during the certification process. Upon completion of the session, it would've been the VP/president pro tempore of the Senate's duty to make certain that the disputed results were returned to the affected states for reconciliation. Before those procedures could be followed, the "insurrection" happened. The sudden disruption of the proceedings was followed by nonstop propagandizing, 24/7 about how crazed Trump supporters tried to seize control of the federal government. And, of course, to deny the "proven" winner, Joe Biden, his victory. It's telling how the main talking point of the Biden supporters is that the establishment Republicans, "Trump's own team," were adamantly defending Joe Biden as the winner. The entrenched Swamp creatures who misrepresent themselves as Republicans were never on Trump's team. The 147 Republicans who voted to overturn the election and acknowledged that a massive fraud had occurred were pictured and vilified on the cover of the recently soon to be defunct New York Times as traitors to America. Of course, the selective memories of the Leftist Progressives don't let facts interfere with their established narratives.

A 'soft coup' is a concept that has was invented in academia in the 21st century. There is a reason why Glenn ignores this possibility. It would of course be possible to extend the definition of a coup to include anything if one wanted. For example, we could redefine Oct. 7 as a 'inverted coup'.

Anyone who knows basic history or studied military coups knows this ain't it

Ballot stuffing is not real?

I need Bri to explain how the most violent and well armed nation/population had a coup more peaceful than one of their daily mass shootings.

Why is Glen demeaning himself by debating with all those crazies.

Sure, “it was an insurrection with no weapons”

I think the question here is: is it still a soft coup if the person perpetrating it wouldn't themsleves call it that because they are genuinely delusional and incapable of believing they've lost fair and square? (I agree with Bri on this one)

Why don’t you call it a soft coup with zipties then?