Global NCAP - A Scam? | Talking Cars | 

Been driving, riding and racing for some 3 decades. Over the years, auto journalism and reviews have become biased paid marketing and propaganda stunts to bait and hoodwink vehicle buyers. Then comes you two, your reviews and debates are brilliant and genuine. Keep up the good work. Wish you all the best. 😊👍👌

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Huge shoutout for taking this head on! We really needed such unbiased auto journalism that’s powered by nothing other than the love for cars! 👍🏼

Nationalism പൊതിഞ്ഞു കൊടുത്താൽ എന്തും വിൽക്കാം

The tag line " Nerode , Nirbhayam , Nirantharam "is more suited to Talking cars . Today's Discussion proves that . Huge respect.. 👍👍

More than 90% of the comments here are in English, which means the content of this channel deserves more pan India attention. Humble request to consider starting a new English channel podcast. Hats off to you guys.

5 സ്റ്റാർ കിട്ടുന്നത് തട്ടികൂട്ടുന്നത് ആണെകിൽ സീറോ സ്റ്റാർ എത്രത്തോളം ദുരന്തം ആയിരിക്കും 😑

A topic nobody dives deep into. Good job indeed guys! ❤️ A mix of Safety ratings + gimmicky marketing + swadeshi sentiment trying to win over gullible car buyers. Watching this while I am in the roadtrip between blr-mum-blr and seeing a lot of stupid driving on the highways. Safety ratings are good but the greatest safety equipment is the driver him/her-self. Can you guys do some content on safe highway driving /driving etiquettes/tips for safe and efficient driving etc - would be a useful watch.

Truly eye opening. I am a Safari owner and have been bragging about the safety rating of TATA cars, which has extended even to my driving. Now I will remember to tone it down a bit. Truly eye opening video. Thanks for all your good work.

“Nere choveeh” or “Parayathe vayyah” this should have been this channel’s name. Truth-bombs!! You guys are awesome :)

When the new Thar got it’s Global NCAP rating, I saw a lot of “news” articles highlighting the stark contrast with the Jeep Wrangler’s dismal rating. No one seemed to care that the Wranglers was a Euro NCAP rating. This would be perfect case study for Talking Cars to delve into. Look forward to your videos. Great stuff as always!

You guys should definitely explain the technicalities related to crash testing because we all deserve safer cars. What I believe you should try to educate the audience about the importance of safer cars and safe driving practises and principles. I and my son have become regular viewers of your videos and we both love the loads of information that you give us.

Nobody else explains these in their videos, massive respect to these guys ❤️

Really an eye opener for the people who blindly buy the cars by seeing safety ratings. Thanks folks

I think this is the best episode till date from you guys! Informative, eye opener and transparent. Way to go…

Wow guys. Thank you for speaking out loud. I've been saying this for years to anyone who told me abot the Global NCAP ratings, and after a point I thought I was just being stupid. thank you so much for shedding some light on this with actual facts! Thank you, and keep up the good work, speaking out against the actual scams

നിങ്ങൾ വണ്ടി കാര്യത്തിൽ പുലികൾ ആണ് എന്ന് അറിയാമരുന്നു പക്ഷെ ധൈര്യത്തിന്റെ കാര്യത്തിൽ രണ്ടു സിംഹങ്ങൾ ആണ് എന്ന് ഇന്നാണ് മനസ്സിൽ ആയത്. കിടു....... 👍🏾

I just wish if this video would have been in English so that people from all parts of india would have understood what they were saying.... I mean its such a important topic and i havent seen any RU-vidrs covering it except for these guys. Absolutely spot on explanation!!!

Definitely required another video about Euro NCAP and other safety tests conducted around the world, as usual a technical video😎. You guys are really an eye opener 🔥

Few weeks back, I gave this video link to a fellow who was bragging "safety! Safety! Safety!" in Tata/Mahindra cars. Managed to shut him up.😂. But seriously, TC, auto journalism at its peak.👌👌

One of my friend’s VW Vento met with an unfortunate accident couple of years back. The car lost control and crashed into a compound wall. Surprisingly the airbag didn’t go off (it should’ve as the cars front end was damaged badly). The guys at VW said “if the car had crashed perpendicular to the wall the airbag would’ve been deployed” Along-with crash test we need classes to learn how to crash a car properly to engage all the safety features😂😂

Huge respect to you guys for selecting this topic 👍🏻

As per GNCAP, the choosing of the variant is based on 1. If the safety systems are not standard across the range, they pick the base model 2. If safety systems are standard across the range, they pick the heaviest model (full-option) for maximum impact. 3. If a number of base models have standard safety features, they pick the heaviest of them all 4. If a number of base models have standard safety features, they pick the one with an alloy wheel, as alloys crack under less load, sending more impact to the body (Where they want to test) Of course, the points highlighted in this video are quite valid. I am not sure why XUV700 AX7L was used for side-impact test. Thar AX though was discontinued before the tests so the LX they selected for the test is the heaviest variant with alloys.

This was really an amazing conversation.I had no idea about the so called “Global NCAP” but used to hear this from manufacturers.Hope to hear more about the safety standards followed by Indian manufacturers. ❤️

I thought GNCAP was associated to Euro NCAP, and there are plenty of other NCAP's like Latin, Australian, ASEAN.. we need a detailed video on this topic. Thank you a Ton for clearing my misconception.

സംഭവം സ്ഥിരം കാഴ്ചക്കർക് മനസ്സിലാവും❤️.... പക്ഷേ ഇത് നല്ലപോലെ share ആവൻ ചാൻസ് ഉണ്ട്. നല്ല ഫാൻ ബോയ് കരച്ചിൽ കാണാം😂😂

As usual a nice topic and discussion 👌 as you said the beauty pageant as an example, the safety rating (whether it is reliable or not) brings better safty features in our cars or the Indian car manufacturers forced to improv safely (dont forget Ambassador and Premier Padmini had good build quality). on the other hands TATA and Mahendra showed good build quality during accidents compared to our common Japanese cars. So it shows the ratings has some facts. However, now we start getting better products, it is really good for the people who spend their hard earned money.🙏

I’m a Senior Citizen and am glad that youngsters like you have started seeing light.Improvise seriously and create inroads into IPL,CCL (read laundering).Also into various awards and accolades .It would also be interesting to look into the current status of one of the pioneers like ISO 9001 certification

തകർത്തു മക്കളെ 🥳🥳🥳 ശരിക്കും ഗ്ലോബൽ ncap എന്നും പറഞ്ഞു നമ്മൾ ഇന്ത്യൻ കസ്റ്റമേഴ്സിനെ exploit ചെയ്യുന്നത് കൂടി കൊണ്ടിരിക്കുന്ന ഈ കാലത്ത് വളരെ അധികം പ്രസക്തി ഉണ്ട് നിങ്ങളുടെ ഈ വിഡിയോക്ക്.. നന്ദി 🙏🙏

Kudos to you guys, takes a lotta guts speaking the truth especially about such big organizations.

Thank you guys for giving us an insight towards Global NCAP (actual insight), and as mention in the video it will be very useful if "TC" could include the other NCAP test in any of your upcoming science corner.

Thank you for bringing it out to the general public. If possible talk about active safety v/s passive safety. For example, the effect of having a good engine in avoiding a crash etc.

ഇത്രയും സിംപിൾ ആയ ടെസ്‌റ്റിൽ പൂജ്യം വാങ്ങിയ പ്രമുഖ കമ്പനികളെ സമ്മതിക്കണം 😀

This is by far the most entertaining automotive channel that I've come across. It's insightful, humorous and honest. Looking forward to great content.

Great video. Its really great to see that there are people like you guys thinking out of the box and bringing such informative topics. This will definitely help many people Avoid this misconception of global ncap and opt for good cars rather than blindly going behind safety advertisements.

You guys truly deserve more wide audience and recognition 🙏 keep up the good work and enlighten us with your unbiased reviews and openion ❤️

This video is very informative and needs to reach a very wide audience especially to those who (as mentioned in the video) drive "safe" cars as if they were indestructible, being a danger to others on the road. Will be looking forward to a detailed video explaining what NCAP is. It's actually about time we had our own NCAP. If the govt really wants to make safer cars for India I hope it will be a reality soon...

Fantastic episode! Please please do a special "science corner" on the standard crash test like euro NCAP OR Asean NCAP. This was a real eye opener to many of us...hats off to your honesty n unbiased opinion 👍

This is really detailed and informative, thank you so much for talking about this topic! Would it be possible to throw some light on ceramic coating? Is it really needed like everyone claims, or is it just a fad?

Very insightful. You guys are a new breed of “investigative automobile journalists”. Tbh, up until this episode, I used to think Global NCAP is the big daddy of Euro NCAP. It is a problem that manufacturers look at safety as some clever marketing gimmick instead of considering it as something that they owe their customers. Also, trying to manipulate data and tricking customers to think a certain way by withholding information… Shameful. #pleaseshowdata

ആ Mahindra XUV700 ൻറെ Side Crash ടെസ്റ്റിൽ അത് റോൾ ചെയ്ത ഭാഗം GNCAP വിഡിയോയിൽ നിന്ന് എഡിറ്റ് ചെയ്ത് മാറ്റിയത് മുതൽ എനിക്ക് ചില സംശയങ്ങളുണ്ട്. എന്തായാലും ഈ വിഷയത്തിൽ വീഡിയോ ഉണ്ടാക്കിയതിന് നന്ദി. ഇനി വീഡിയോ കാണട്ടെ.

Great work guys! Keep going! I’m an automobile enthusiast and have been following autocar for so many years, but you guys are just amazing! Hope you always stay genuine and give your viewers authentic info!❤️

You guys must start a channel in English. The quality of the content and the point you guys brought to the table is outstanding. You guys have the potential to become the trailblazers of different genres in the automobile industry which is 'നേരോടെ നിർഭയം നിരന്തരം' . Keep it coming ❤

If I had an option to subscribe to just one channel in the entire yt, i would choose you guys no questions asked. I truly appreciate the exquisite content you bring out for us. Thanks JD and Vivek.

One of the best Episode Ever 👌👌 Built Like a tank എന്നും പറഞ്ഞു റോഡിൽ പറക്കുന്ന Tata മുതലാളിമാർക്കും Online Fans ഇനും ഉള്ള ഒരു shock treatment 👌👌 🤩

1. In India we have a regulatory board called ARAI which gives authority to sell vehicles in India based on numerous tests among which full vehicle crash tests are a part. However, most vehicles pass these tests(only vehicles passing this can be sold on road). Firms like Tata and MAHINDRA are committed to safety. And hence, they take their vehicle to a more stringent test condition. GNCAP offers that stringent condition. We need not take it to European NCAP or the similar because we don't sell cars there. 2. As far as choice of cars is concerned, GNCAP chooses base model if safety features are standard across all models. If not vehicle with highest weight is taken which sometimes is the premium model. 3. For side test, the side if impact is chosen based in sole discretion if GNCAP. And this is based on worst side structures. 4. GNCAP doesn't take vehicles that are sold in Europe because they anyways meet ENCAP requirements which implies frontal and side crash safety as well(GNCAP req). 5. About Global NCAP, it is a not for profit organization. How does it make money? They don't charge money if they decide to choose the vehicle after sales have begun. However, if the company decides to give their vehicle to test voluntarily, there is a significant fee. This usually happens at beginning of production stage. This is one of the modes of making money. In a nutshell, there is no reason to believe it as a scam. It's a program to evaluate safety of a particular vehicle based on some crash load cases which are much stringent than load cases by our regulatory requirement. It is applicable for Indian and African New cars primarily because we are a developing country. Also claiming it as Indias safest car is correct. Because other so called 'assumed safe cars(especially luxury cars)' are not Indias car. They are European/other nations cars sold in India. There is no need to explicitly state as Indias safest produced car. Indias safest car is perfect term. As commitment to safety increases some features will become standard/'must have' which will benefit suppliers and the committed firms. For a country like India GNCAP is the most reliable safety rating agency at the moment and there exists no more stringent regulation applicable for India. Pls note that EuroNCAP etc are applicable if the vehicle is intented to be sold in respective continents. Doing an ENCAP test based without intent to be sold in Europe is simply a waste of money for indian manufacturers.

in 2021 Tata nexon steering was not stable after 13k kms, I visited service centre multiple times to resolve that but thet denied no issues in my nexon car, later I checked price of steering column one is 86k in test drive nexon cars, but in customer car have another brand cost is 52k, test drive car and customer nexon car don't have same stability in steering handling. Tata also pocket saver in cost cutting

loved the discussion, especially the way of presentation taking care of the fine line that separates intelligent deduction from conspiracy theories. Looking forward to see more content like this

പൊളിച്ചു മക്കളേ, praise your guts. You people teaches how an auto journalist should be.... Hearty congrats 😍🥰🤩😘

In my opinion, you guys should do a video on NCAP. It would be great piece of information for those who opted for so called "Safest Car in India". Applause to your research and analysis. Ofcourse to the presentation as well. 👏👏👏

Automobile blogs have reached a new level now. These guys have set a new bench mark. Thanks for doing this. We love you both.

Swift inu randu scoring kittiya karyam njan kazhinja divasam team BHP il oru article vaayichappozhaanu arinjathu , vayichappol njetti poyi 🥴

30 minutes alla 1½ hour video kandalum ath worth aann ennullathaan ningade prathyekatha... Huge Respect to these guys...✨💯🥳

Both of you please continue doing more of such videos. Over the time there is a trust building up between you and us, I sincerely hope it stays like this forever. So even though you may face problems from companies for opening up truth like this, all I have to say is that our support will always be there. Keep going 🔥💯

You guys are really amazing Always welcome for the unbiased thoughts. Most of the auto journalists were tight liped for the drawbacks for the major brands, you guys are exceptional

കണ്ണൂര് ഒക്കെ innova യിൽ ആളു വരും എന്ന് പറയാറുണ്ട്. നിങ്ങടെ വീട്ടിൽ ഇന്ന് safari യിൽ വരാൻ സാധ്യത ഉണ്ട്

It's all about the energy of impact. Reduce speed by 25 % and your impact energy comes down by 40%. A good brake and adequate gap between vehicles ensures that the energy of impact is minimal. Which is why we say " SPEED KILLS" . Unfortunately we focus on the peripherals and ignore the basics.

Maruti fan bois after watching this video കോടി പുണ്യം ആണ് നിങ്ങൾ 😂 ഇത്രയും കാലം പാവങ്ങൾ airൽ ആരുന്നു 🤣

Terrific session. Humble request to add english subtitles to this. Want to share with my friends who are not malayalees. This session can also be shared with all selfmade auto reviewers who are unknowingly biased towards some car makers just because of gncap ratings.

Brilliant! To Mahindra’s credit though, they stopped the Thar 6 seater after the Global NCAP rating. Only the AX Opt is available now, which is a 4 seater.

Yes I remember hearing somewhere that someone crashed a car with airbag but it didn't get activated. Chodichappo sales man parayuva "Ath sir sherikkum idikaathadukonda" 😂😂

The most unbiased automotive channel with more unique & interesting topics... This time ; it's totally worth.. Keep on going team TC... 👍👍

Haha that glitch transition though 😬 Having always been obsessed about top gear the show, I love the fact that you guys actually created a channel without copying any presentation styles! Much love from a former bike-only enthusiast who has become an "automobile" enthusiast 😂🤙

Nexon വഴിയിൽ കിടന്നാലും ആ saftey അങ്ങ് ഉപയോഗിക്കും.. JD പറയുന്നത് ഞാൻ ഓർക്കുന്നു.. 😂

And you two have become the nightmare of all “Udayippans” in the industry!!! Kudos Bros👏🏻 Keep Going 😎💚

"Decent dose of reality" That's what we expect from a review/discussion, and you guys deliver it 😀👌

There are various categories of test in medical device industry as safety is of paramount importance. 1. In silico or computer simulation 2. In vitro r lab tests 3. In vivo r animal studies 4. Clinical trials Drawing an analogy, i doubt the current gncap completely address all potential failure modes in crash. The number of failure modes investigated, number of samples per endpoints tested etc all are doubtful. So as per my opiniom, just have to say gncap qualified. Not as safer or safest etc. Second, even to say say qualified, i not sure gncap is a Federal funded regulatory agency. But, based on the observations from field accidents, i can be seen that certain foreign cars split into two pieces. Whereas some of the Indian origin doing good. So irrespective of the certifying agency, based on proven examples and manufactures choose a good car.

Ee topic oru forum il vannappozhe orappichu ivide discuss cheyyumennu.. 🤩 Thanks for the feature! 😃👍

Innu randu perum nalla vibeil aanello.🤩 This is absolutely good. You guys have the guts to say it. Keep it up. 👏👏👏

Absolutely amazing video... Thank you for continuing to question and scrutinize the "established" players and reminding us to do the same...

Thanks for this video.. Can you give me a small suggestion.. I have booked mg astor after cancelling scross.. Is it a good choice.. I am not expecting any 5 star ratings.. But for daily use is it a good option.. Astor super cvt is what I booked.. My main concern was the space.. Since I was using celario for the past two years.. Now my family has grown.. So need a bit more space for travel.. Or is there any other choice that I can opt for in the same budget

I havebeen watching all your vedios and a subscriber too..and now i realising you havnt told anything about safety ratings in all your reviews which all other international automotive journalist do...but the indian reviewers do 🤔..which shows theres nothing to do with this rating...my god the knowledge you guys process is immemence..🙏🙏🙏

32 minutes was very useful This is the best knowledge about these fake safety you guys are legend do more content like these

But still we are seeing many real world situations where tatas survive a crash better than Maruti. So somthing is better than nothing, right,? Or am i missing something here?

Honestly I was under the impression that this is part of the Govt segment, thanks for the enlightenment. Yes would love to hear the technical aspects of the different NCAP as part of the Science Corner

True Eye opener. You know who your subscribers are ! damn I feel super pumped up to be part of this community 🙌

Awesome video guys. Very nice and informative. Please do a detailed video on safety ratings and different organisations. ... Like Asean ncap, Latin ncap, USA ncap . It will be helpful for buyers too.

Great eye-opening.🙏 And this will be streaming all over India. Can you please add English subtitles too so that non- Malayalis may come to know this. This will be very effective content for all people.

The Topic that helps to dispel many misconceptions about safty of vehicle. This is the real responsibility of auto journalism. Thanks...@Talking Cars .. Also what about Asian NCAP and Latin NCAP..?

what a perfect timing!! innu kude enne apamaanich vitte ullu (i'm a baleno owner), global ncap safety illennokke paranju, vandi idichal chathu povum ennoke paranju. Forwarded this video to them.

That's a great discussion. 👍 Xuv 300 side impact on the left- is it because Ssangyong Tivoli is a left hand driven car?

Miss universe...miss Pluto.. 😂u guys r d best in what you do. Full support for the job. CUP mukyam bigileee....

വളരെ നല്ല എപ്പിസോഡ്. ഈ അടുത്ത്‌ എന്റെ ഫ്രണ്ട് ഒരു ന്യൂ wagon r എടുത്തു. അത് കണ്ടിട്ട് ഒരാൾ അവനോടു എന്തിനാ സെയ്ഫ്റ്റി ഇല്ലാത്ത wagon r എടുത്തത് tiago എടുത്താൽ പോരായിരുന്നോ എന്ന് ചോദിച്ചു. അവനു വളരെ വിഷമമായി.ഈ എപ്പിസോഡ് അവനും കണ്ടു. ഹാപ്പി ആയി. Thank you talking cars team. 👏

ഇത്രയും anomaly ഉണ്ടായിരുന്നോ GNCAPil 🙄🙄 എന്റെ ഒരു doubt ആയിരുന്നു 5lakh ന്റെ punch, വോൾവോ xc90 എല്ലാത്തിനും 5star safety. അങ്ങനെ എങ്കിൽ volvoku 7star കൊടുക്കണ്ടേയ്

" APPLICABLE ONLY IF YOU DRIVE UNDER 64KMPH! " should be put as a STATUARY WARNING on all NCAP results. 😀 And excellent job you guys, who talks facts and straight to the point. 👍

Great info!!! Could you please choose a topic on premium petrol/diesel in India? Would like to hear your insights about their advantages and disadvantages. Would be helpful during this time when fuel prices are skyrocketing.

People becoming conscious about safety ratings is a good thing. GNCAP is a big thing because Bharat NCAP/BNVSAP isn't in place yet. In the absence of Government regulations, some manufacturers are using GNCAP ratings as a marketing tool. Thank you for educating everyone on GNCAP. The GNCAP may not be the last word in safety. That said, it doesn't make a car that scores lower on their ratings safer than ones that score higher on the same ratings. Very valid point about people who drive irresponsibly just because their cars have a higher GNCAP rating. They'll learn their lesson eventually, hopefully without hurting themselves or others 🤞

A huge Hands off to your guts to point out the truth .Never thought if it before.If I were you I might not utter a single word if I have the slightest dought that my words would put my Job at stake ,whereas you guys on the other hand have shown the courage to face all the criticism that's on the way. Thankyou for being truly rational ,Thankyou for being truly Taking Cars.

This was the most worthfull video i have watched on your channel as i always had a doubt about global ncap..this is what is expected from autojournalists😊

You guys are awesome. Please do the detailed video on Global NCAP, it's prerequisites and how the evaluation process works. If possible add English subtitles. I think it may help a wider audience.

I love your honest yet fairly diplomatic approach to extremely relevant topics, which I'm sure most are unaware of. Love your work. More power to you. 😊

😍👏Thanks a lot for bringing in topics like these... Definitely waiting for the detailed video on NCAP in science corner😍👍😊

ഒരുപാട് സംശയങ്ങൾ തീർക്കാൻ പറ്റുന്ന അവതരണം 🥰❤💪

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really appreciate the decent dose of reality.. hope you guys provide more of those realities...

standardizing abs n airbags was the only benefit, and i too had the same doubt about harrier, hector, etc.. And yes Latin ncap, euro ncap, wakhanda ncap എല്ലാം ഓരോ പ്ലേറ്റ് പോരട്ടെ

Very interesting topic. A car from a global manufacturer hit on a tree while driving. The air bag did not open due to the impact. The owner filed a case , but the verdict of the case was against the owner, reason being the car was not having necessary speed for the air bags to open . Really an eye openeing topic. This like a certificate you get while you purchase a gem .Now there are government organizations who certify the authenticity of the gem . So jewlleries are giving certificates from govt organizations instead of global brands. This should happen for the cars too. Drive safely even if you have a 5plus star rating . Expecting similar videos from you guys !

This is real auto journalism.. Kudos to you guys for selecting this topic!

I have been watching your videos. Interesting thing is that even though your videos are lengthy, it doesn't bore :-)