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I had a 2800 SF job like this a year ago and was a awful tear out! I grid cut the floor every 4 inches and used a 40lb jackhammer on a cart it took me 6 days to complete the tear out! The floor was self leveled prior to the wood being glued which meant I ended up with having large areas of self leveler come up with the old wood flooring! I lost my ass on that job but completed it for the original price I quoted the customer!
Why builders have to install over green slabs is a lack brains. That and the genius concrete guy adds water to the pour,so it will float easier. Bad concrete work is why we need water proof glue. It's not water proof from. Top down anyway . A slab should not measure more than 4 pounds on a calcium carbide test.
I just finished mine. There ain't no way around a bunch of grunting and sweating with this stuff!!! Used the walk-behind scraper and it took me about 4 days to do 400sqft. NOT FUN!!!! But my contractor wanted a couple thousand so.....
@@williamburnam1582 Not arguing that it's not an expensive endeavor. It's a shitty job and yeah if you have the money just pay someone for the work. I build custom cabinets. Little more brain and a lot less physical labor...:)
You can go over urthane glued enginieered wood floor. If you use underlay and float new wood, or even install laminate. Urthane glue that is a solid barrior with underlay, your not getting any moisture from slab. I checked with NWFA. But if you want to expose a bad slab go for it. Tile would be the exeption. You could screw down 1/8 hardi back and go for it.
Where are you located? I would not recommend doing what they did. You can use a smaller machine than what they were using. They were using a blade to remove hardwood. Blades are meant to dig up what is under the hardwood. Get your rental provider to give you a Hilti TE1000 with a cart and get both the chisel (for the wood) and then the blade attachment (for whats under). If they do not have that, get a National Flooring Product with the stake attachment and then use the blade (both both). Also rent a small saw to "score" the floors or break it up into sections so that you remove smaller planks of wood at a time creating a much faster experience even though you will think it is counter-productive. Package all these items together, saw and hilti w cart or saw with national flooring product w stake and blade and the rental shouldn't be nearly as much as these guys spent. I recommend using Herc Rentals
@@christophermonzon7970 it will work but you have to cut it every 4 inches against the run of the wood flooring. After that get a jackhammer cart and use the thin glue removal blade not the chipping blade the deflection in the thin blade actually helps get under the glue. The bad news you will still need a Bosch SDS for the areas you can’t get the cart in.
@@tedmcnair9709 I ended up using good ol' brute force. A 5ft steel pole with a 3" blade. If i ever have to do that again, I'll definitely keep this in mind.
Definition of a naive homeowner: "Yes, you need to remove the old floor and install the new one. I will be living in the house and do not want to remove or even cover anything. The old floor goes under the island, kitchen cabinets and wood trim including the baseboards." My (contractor) response: Good luck with that.
My son did a removal that they had top coated slab,then plowed a solid layer of urthane they put down. The top coat came with it, leaving aggregate exposed. Yeah removing the floor destroyed the work the builder did to a rained on slab. Looked like1/8 of self level wet set over use of urthane glue.
@@voylesfloorcovering8165 You need to get $3-$4 a foot. If you are only charging $1-$2 you are under bidding. Its too much work for that low of a price.
Not in this case most of the time we have to complete jobs in the most time efficient way possible because. TIME IS MONEY but in the case of the glue they use for hardwood floors almost if not all are water proof/ element proof not like vinyl glue down sucks but the only way around this problem to rip it up would be by pure blood sweat and tears !
@@PursuitOfContent Is it vinyl plank or wood laminate? If it's vinyl plank then it shouldn't bee too bad hopefully. I would use a sturdy spatula to try and get the whole piece if it starts to shatter and break then just chip away or use something called a 15 in 1 painters tool works great for flooring that chips. I'll link it below
@@sscollectors5364 thank you.. yea it’s the plank laminate. I was using a wonder bar and a hammer and it barely made a dent. It looks like they used SO much glue
@@jackabrams500 my problem is getting the boards up. I managed to get most up but the the edges they used even more glue. I’m basically going to be chipping away at it price by piece now unfortunately. A lot of the sub flooring is all hacked away. If plywood wasn’t so expensive right now I would try to just pull the subfloor up with it but I guess I’m going to just try to use floor leveler
I own the same machine you should’ve turned the speed down all the way to the lowest setting when the wheels are spending, you have it going too fast should’ve taken a circular saw and cut squares in it first
Great Video! The Voyles boys are so funny! I have a question... What kind of floor would you recommend for a basement that deals with flooding at least once a year?
You guys are cool and funny. But got to be honest. Way too much music and not enough advice. And towards the end when some advice was given, It was really hard to understand with all of the machines buzzing in the background.
Lol definitely the easiest way but it would’ve raised up the floor enough where the doors would’ve been dragging and there would have been step down to the carpet areas and customer said they wanted it pulled.
@@voylesfloorcovering8165 Facing similar dilemma at home. Main problem is new combined height of floor on top. It won't allow dishwasher to slide out in case of exchange or repairs needed.
To tear out on a wood subfloor I would use the smaller self propelled machine. It’s only about 400 lb and the ride on machine is way too much weight for a wood subfloor.
yeah... don't be smart and cut across the floor every 6 inches and make it easier and safer or anything... wouldn't want to ruin a good time with actual production. oh, and you went from a machine designed to remove glued down carpet to a machine designed for gymnasiums... nice... there's like two other level of machine between the two a lot more suited for the job. Didn't learn anything. At least I was entertained for 5 minutes. There's a reason you're subbed by Lowe's. But you're young, so you still have time to learn how to do it correctly, then maybe you won't be so destructive as well as ignorant. Good luck!
