GNU Negotiations | Steenhuisen, Ramaphosa to meet again for talks: Mzwandile Mbeje 

So the ANC still want to cling to power, they are not willing to consider things that will benefit the citizens of SA? So much for listening to the vote of the people then?

It would be wonderful if Ramaphosa could for once honour his word. We need him to be more honest and transparent. This is not about white or black. This is about the people of South Africa. It is about time the politicians start forgetting about what they can get out of the deal a d think what is best for our country. Why are they making it a racial thing now?

We voted for change.

this anc is taking us for fools. they have sold us out already but delaying it playing games

Trade and ind ...the unions?? In cahoots ? Etc. etc.

DA PLEAE NEVER BOW....WE VOTED FOR CHANGE PLEASE

This fiasco is sickening. Why can’t DA & ANC have a minister of T&I and a deputy that way it gives them both a share in one portfolio. Therefore no secrecy which this unreal debacle is playing out.

The DA must not compromise. They must get their fair share of cabinet posts. The ANC is negotiating in bad faith.

If before a wedding ceremony a couple is fighting already, what will life looks like in years to come?

No meeting is necessary they thought Anc was going to chicken out.

Come on SA let's work together & build a better future for all of us ,we can do this ,we have the tools ,we are a great nation together 🙏🏼VIVA SA 🇿🇦✊🏽

The electorate gave this government a clear mandate. Representation in cabinet should be proportional to the number of NA seats in the GNU. Power must be shared equitably. Anything else would be undermining the people's will

the ANC is praying that the DA will walk away.. it will leave the ANC in a position where they continue to steal unabatedly for another 5 yearsbecause all the other parties are only there to loot and steal , meaning they will allow the ANC to trot along happily for another 5 years.

Be patient, the cabinet will be announced soon. Other countries with coalitions of this type, took months to conclude multiparty negotiations. So SA, is only plus three weeks in these talks, before a cabinet is formed and announced. Be patient and don't throw shade.❤

well if the gnu dissolves remember that Ramaphosa himself is not guaranteed to be president if the other 51% of of other parties decide well you know what- just lets move on and appoint xyz as President (if MK deals comes in Ramposer goes clear as day) the only way he stays is with DA and both ANC and DA know this - that is the pointy end of the stick finish and klaar the rest os all BS we don't actually need a single cabinet minister even if it takes 2 years to appoint one the DG's are actually the people that implement and could report directly to president so cabinet ministers are technically not even needed

Ramaphosa is DA under ANC cover and unfortunately it's late for all these losers who will never win again

If you use the national election results (%), then DA would get 6 ministers. But under proportional representation you must add up the numbers (votes) of the GNU members to arrive at a new %....then calculate the ministers based on that, and that new % gives DA = 9 ministers. Calculate it and see.

The DA has more than half of the ANC's total vote count... The ANC must give DA at least their 1/3 of positions and deputy pres in the GNU. Proportional representation.

Kom tot n punt julle.

Mzwandile Mbeje gives an honest analayst of the situation.

Or maybe if the DA walks away the whole goverment must be dissolved.

No, no, no, Mzwandi and Nompu, the DA won't work away, they signed and agreement with the ANC and i don't think that President have powers to work alone without the DA, he need DA and other parties to form GNU, here we are talking about Power sharing not the majority rules, and no party has won the majority power.

Give the D.A what we voted for there will be more employment in the police force Traffic department Defence force Air force Hospitals Correctional services And in all government departments salaries comes out of the budget

What does ANC has got to hide?

It's misnomer to say that the other parties are 'as important', this is essentially a coalition deal between the DA and ANC, everything else is irrelevant. A minority government will not hold.

One doesn't works with ANC thieves.

They should give all the positions to the DA, then this Country will go forward

Hey, you ANC! You failed for 30 years, maan. Get lost, baba!

The ANC, not the DA, is just being unreasonable.Period!

why all these theatrics, we all know that the funders have spoken and the deal is sealed, why cant the president announce the cabinet so that we can move on

Dont apppoint cadres, both sides please do whats right for your people. When pen letters, communicate, you are not kids

These two (Cyril & John) should just go into boxing ring and let the winner form a government.

DA IF NOT SATISFIED WALK AWAY

The 18 July, is a true reflection of democracy playing out and it's for the legacy of Former late president Mandela. DA will not let go of this GNU. There s need for certainty and fir our markets ( Rand) to strengthen for the economy to grow and jobs to be created.

Have joint trade and industry ministers and divide the salary between them

well explained!

Unless there is real power sharing, there will only be downsides for the DA in the GNU.

COSATU blocking

What happened to kortbroek, minister of tourism? Where did tsvangarai disappear to? If you dont get some proper power then its not power sharing

I appreciate your running commentary on the formation of the GNU. However, the country is in shambles as we speak. Can the SABC begin to bring us news on attempts to have a National Dialogue, where Civil Society (and not just politicians) will be able to give input on how we should the slippery slide into a Zimbabwean type of chaos 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤔🤔🤔🤔

My Kinfolk on the Continent of the Mother Land you Don't need these devils for y'all to succeed you just have to believe in yourself you can do you are us just in a different Land 💪🏾☝🏾❤️

I'm waiting patiently about this 😅😅

The ANC and the DA are holding the people of this country for ransom 😢

Just give what DA wants, you had 30 years(Nothing done) 😡

ZUMA ASKED IF ITS GNU WHY ONLY 2 SIGNATURES ON THE DOCUMENT...

The most qualified person for the job, please! No jobs for buddies. It is 30 years later! This is not about parties, but people. Put the country first!

ANC will give in to DA demands ANC is in no position TO PLAY BIG SHOT....

ANC has lost power and must let other players take part in government without destructing them.

The Rand plummeted when the ANC reneged on their deal with the DA. It is very wrong to not do what is best for the country. We want a strong rand and cheaper food and services. The ANC is operating against that. I never even voted for the DA and can see this.

The voters want to see a cabinet in line with voters mandate. Propotional allocation in line woth the results. Its a simple formular.

What does the constitution say in case no party gets sufficient majority of forming on its own?

Please negotiate and find a compromise and share Trade and Industry

Time for cape succession.

I dont think they is a bigger picture they all want power both parties 😅😅

We'll suffer even more coz the EFF has made clear before the election that south Africans give majority votes to the EFF liberate you from the oppressors but you choose not to be... So let's bear another 5 years of struggle maybe we'll catch a wake up along the way... Viva EFF ❤

THIS DATE IS A THREAT THAT PUT PRESSURE ON THE DA TO DECIDE....I PRAY THEY DONT ..TO TEACH A LESSON..

Both is tougher than the ring

The rand goes up when the DA is included but goes down with threats of them leaving.

ANC position, "be reasonable and do it our way"

Trade to IFP

If DA walks out... Ramaphosa is gone

House of cards

Pls my beloved DA never let ANC to bully this most real party. You must get what is best for the citizens. Even those who haul will be happy not unless they are masked BY ANC THE professional thieves who enjoy when they see poor people whose children are living in the streets yet their own children are working with decent jobs. Re kgathetse ke bobodu ba ANC

We need Kzn fixed, and we need change

To be fair the president is he not the one to chose his team. Is this not state capture 101, 😮

I think with my own two Cent the Rand or the market issue is irrelevant in the-making because the Rand is not benefiting our ordinary people on the ground only the rich people are concerned about the rain because they are concerned about their shares and their businesses which don't benefit the ordinary citizens

Ramaphosa is supposed to form a coalition with the South African parties instead of being disturbed by a foreign party.

Africans voted above 70,% . Let's unite and take our country. Why not?

Go with the EFF

DA has Ramaphosa by the balls.

Guys waste of time all parties should meet in the supervision of an umpire otherwise this will be the continuous disruptions for the next 5 years. Why force incompactable oil and water work together

DA will pull out . We became opposition party. We cannot tolerate thieves and lies. This will give DA to work hard for next coming elections to remove ANC completely from government. Victory DA.

GNU eliminates the political concept of OPPOSITION..No opposing as the Parliament work together to debate laws and pass instruments to be executed by the Executive.. In a perfect and fully practiced GNU , ALL elected Political Parties enter into a Power -sharing-- arrangements of the Executive proportionate to their elected vote percentage...and this must include all ,not a coalition of few parties. National unity government, government of national unity (GNU), or national union government is a broad coalition government consisting of all parties (or all major parties) in the legislature, usually formed during a time of war or other national emergency (and indeed unemployment,poverty rates are high) A unity government according to the principles of consensus democracy lacks opposition( or opposition parties are too small and negligible) coalition government, or coalition cabinet, is a government where political parties enter a power-sharing arrangement of the executive. Coalition governments usually occur when no single party has achieved an absolute majority after an election. A party not having majority is common under proportional representation, but not in nations with majoritarian electoral systems. There are different forms of coalition governments, minority coalitions and surplus majority coalition governments. A surplus majority coalition government controls more than the absolute majority of seats in parliament necessary to have a majority in the government, whereas minority coalition governments do not hold the majority of legislative seats. A coalition government might also be created in a time of national difficulty or crisis (for example, during wartime or economic crisis) to give a government the high degree of perceived political legitimacy or collective identity, it can also play a role in diminishing internal political strife. In such times, parties have formed all-party coalitions (national unity governments, grand coalitions). If a coalition collapses, the Prime Minister and cabinet may be ousted by a vote of no confidence, call snap elections, form a new majority coalition, or continue as a minority government. The best GNU Can only be achieved when the power for executive positions is eliminated.. THE PROBLEM Here surfaces the issue of Coalition government, or coalition cabinet, is a government where political parties enter a power-sharing arrangement of the executive. This is one of the reasons complete transformation from majoritarian to GNU fails.. Why...because the Political ideology of having a One Party Majority system still lingers. Only two perfect options to perfect GNU....In considerations of current Constitutional instruments, are Let All parties be represented in the Executive by their ELECTED Vote percentage. All parties should forward their desired candidature (equaling their percentage in parliament)to the Consulting Council which is represented by all parties. Secondly and Lastly.. The best medicine to eliminate the hunger for Political Parties power struggle of Cabinet positions is to allow for All Executive positions to be applied for and Vetted by Parliament...No MP 's appointment to Executive possitions...All other inportant positions like of intelligence..police. defence...judiciary..let them be decided for by Parliament...not President..his duty just be to execute what the parliament pass as wholly debated laws and policies that are monitored by parliamet.. GNU

We want our our land back thats all

Dont forget to entail in yuo negotiation to ask that.Election was free and Fair maybe yuo will get answer.

This Hippo again🤮

Why in SA particularly ANC doesn't stick to it word? yr allies mps voted you already, now to give or conced some posts to yr allies it becomes a problem every one in ANC hv a say this shows lack of respect in the leadership of ANC in SA; ANC, just satisfy yr boyfriend DA according to their proportional seat in parliament, otherwise this marriage will be over and don't be surprised if the DA declare the Western cape an independent state in SA and all others non born will require Visa to leave, stay or work in the WC ...

Lebotab, i fully agree.

Urgent matter I’m original ANC believer, open minded, Mzansi people must now know all the details as was discussed in the initial negotiations where it was agreed Presidency and the chairmanship (Selectee and nominee), Presidency was handed over to Hon Ramaphosa, same as chairmanship, this was mainly Trio negotiations (IFP, DA and ANC), (other parties and their leaders are followers, and subscribers) Hon Ramaphosa is playing chameleon, changing colours by the wind. The power of the statement of intent prevented bloodshed in our country, in many many way, Spears were sharpened, but the appetite for bloodshed lost momentum because of unite GNU through the Statement of Intent. So, Hon Ramaphosa, ego aside, respect the efforts that made your life easy, and please don’t be the one changing goal posts. Ramaphosas recent trail record did not deserve presidency this time round. So truth be told, But the decision for GNU 🤝 A gamble but this will rewrite history, You are welcome to disagree 🤸🏾‍♂️

Why's he meeting that one.. skip and deal with the real leader, "godzille/magogo" 😂

Deputy President Dr J Hlophe . 😂😂😂

Staan sterk DA. Julle buig nie. ❤❤❤❤❤

Ek personal vertrou steenhuisen maar helen zille vat my ouers vir n gat

Mnr ramaphosa maak jou besluit as jy besluit dit is jou cabinet wat jou gaan by staan stel hulle aan moenie dat ander honger honde jou intemedeer ni dy van wyk lekke sondag

Give DA what they want and 2029 we will vote again case closed

Mzwandile Mbeje was the first SABC journalist to peedle the DA/ANC propaganda that MK "is a Zulu tribalist party". What ever he says, he spewing his Masters' verbal diarreah

ANC remain would calm head and focus don't let the DA pressure you stay Focus

DA offered 6 out of 30 cabinet posts, 20% and ANC keeps 80%. This isn't a reflection of the vote as ANC only got 18% more votes

No way ahead......

This CEO is prisoner of his own mind. His definition of Transformation is the transfer of money. And only blacks have the morals and ethics to manage Transformation. The word 'Transformation' should be replaced by the words 'Real Work'. Then we must ask the politicians and political parties are they going to take responsibility to do the Real Work that is needed to improve South Africa and it's people. Sadly, political parties are money obsessed with no intention to do the Real Work that will result in Transformation.

You will never find a truth from this Mbenje guy khohlwa

Maimane warned us about DA ANC must walk away from DA. PERIOD. Markets are DA.

ME THINKS MOST CAT COUNT

Once DA walk away Ramaposa and adm. Ll steall and loot immediately power is on once electricity well go down. People need to make Ramaposa dance 💃 also marriage breaking up

MKP + ANC + EFF 😂😂😂Possibility

Do not trust a snake. It keeps coming back

Mxaaa

No hurry in SA 😂😂😂

Piet Retief.

CODESA again, "pedestrian" politics in South Africa 😂😂😂